Sunday, May 17, 2015

Shootout between Motorcycle Gangs leaves 9 dead and 18 wounded in Waco Texas

Translated by Otis B Fly-Wheel for Borderland Beat from a Proceso article

[ Subject Matter: Motorcycle Gangs, Gun Battle, Texas
Recommendation: No prior subject matter knowledge required]

Updated 19/May/15 with lowdown on the gangs involved

Carnage outside Twin Peak Restaurant, Waco, Texas

Proceso Redaction

No less than 9 people died and 18 were injured in a shootout between two rival motorcycle gangs in Waco, Texas, inform the police.

The shootout occurred a little after midday in the Automobile park of the Twin Peaks restaurant and sports bar and grill in the commercial area of Central Texas market place, signalled the Waco Police Department on social media.

The motorcyclists confronted each other first with baseball bats and knives and later with firearms turning the place into a battlefield, explained Sergeant Patrick Swanson to KWTX, affiliate of CBS.

The Police officials that arrived at the crime scene, asked civilians to stay well clear and avoid the area.

Swanton confirmed the number of victims and said that the altercation started inside the establishment around 12:15 and extended to the automobile park that Twin Peaks shares with the Restaurant Don Carlos. He also added that "in 34 years of law enforcement, this is the worst crime scene - the most violent crime scene I have attended, there are dead people still here and blood everywhere, we expect to confiscate upwards of 100 weapons".

According to the authorities, the gangs started to fight with fists and feet, but that escalated quickly to chains, knives, bats and sticks and ultimately firearms.





One witness told the Waco Tribune-Herald that there were thirty people shooting at each other at one point.

Officials said the motive to open fire was to put an end to the confrontation, said Sergeant Swanton

Many innocent could have been hurt as a result of today. These gangs of criminal motorcyclists are very hostile and dangerous, said Swanton in justification of the actions of the Police. The bikers as well as shooting at each other, shot at the arriving Police who returned fire, but no officers were hurt.



Clients in the restaurants took cover behind freezers to protect themselves from the shots, said Canal Television.

According to Univision, the owners of Twin Peaks know the rival gangs, but still allow the access, said Swanton.

After the shootout, the two restaurants closed and Police took various people into custody, and took witness statements.

While Police issued no information on the names of the gangs involved, patches were seen representing, The Bandidos, Cossacks and Scimitars.


See video report from ABC in English

Original article in Spanish at Proceso

More information from BBC.co.uk

Who are the gangs who lost members in the shoot-out?

The Bandidos
  • Formed in Texas in 1966 by former US Marine Don Chambers
  • Now has between 2,000 and 2,500 members in 14 countries
  • Classified as an outlaw motorcycle gang by the FBI
  • Responsible for distributing cocaine and marijuana, according to the US Dept of Justice
  • Produce and distributes methamphetamine, according to the USDOJ
The Cossacks
  • Founded in 1969 in Texas
  • Motto: "We take care of our own"
  • Two members were stabbed in an attack, allegedly by Bandido members, in 2013
Sources: US Department of Justice, Bandidos MC, The One-Percenter Encyclopedia
A spokesman for McLennan County Court in Waco said the 170 people were being formally charged at the local jail, and that processing the large number of cases was proving to be "a big, big deal".

Police in Texas have described a gang shootout, which killed nine people, as one of the worst gun fights ever in the city of Waco.
Officers say 192 people face organised crime charges after rival biker groups clashed at a sports bar and grill.
One witness quoted by the Waco Tribune-Herald said the car park of the restaurant resembled "a war zone".
All nine of those killed are thought to be members of the Bandido or Cossack gangs.
There's already at least one documented instance of violence between the two groups.
In November 2013, a 46-year-old from Abilene, who police say was the leader of a West Texas Bandidos chapter, was charged over the stabbings of two members of the Cossacks.
In a 2014 gang threat assessment, the Texas Department of Public Safety classified the Bandidos as a Tier 2 threat, the second highest.
Other groups in that tier included the Bloods, Crips and Aryan Brotherhood of Texas.
So who are those biker gangs?

The Bandidos


Slogan: "We are the people your parents warned you about." Members also wear patches with phrases like "Expect No Mercy".
Origins: Formed in Texas in 1966 by Don Chambers, who served as a marine in Vietnam.
Logo: A chubby Mexican bandit, wearing a sombrero hat, pointing a gun and holding a sword. The character's based on an old logo for a brand of tortilla chips.
The gold and red colours were chosen because of Chambers' link to the marines.
Members also wear the "1%er" logo.
The group's Swedish website describes a "One Percenter" as the "one of hundred of us who has given up on society and politicians one-way-laws".
"This is why we may look repulsive (to you). We're saying we don't want to be like you or look like you. So stay out of our face."
The Bandido code: "You don't lie, you don't steal and you don't take a brother's woman.

Location: The group's thought to have 2,400 members in 210 branches. It's concentrated in Texas, but has members in many US states, mainly in the south - making it one of America's biggest gangs.
Members are also active in Canada and Australia, with chapters in 19 other countries including Thailand, Singapore, Germany, Denmark, France. The group also claims to have a small following in the UK.
Initiation: It takes about two years to become a fully patched Bandido. You need to know an existing member and go through a probation period and pay around £350.
Members have to wear patches visible from 150 feet away.

Known criminal activity: The Bandidos have a long and violent history of crime, with the FBI calling them one of the countries five most significant outlaw motorcycle gangs.
Members have been arrested for offences ranging from assault and racketeering, to possession of drugs and illegal weapons and murder.
In 2009, six Canadian members were jailed for life for murdering eight fellow Bandidos in an "internal cleansing" in Ontario.
But one former high ranking leader is quoted as saying that while some members engage in criminal activity, the clubs as a whole don't condone or encourage it.
Edward Winterhalder ("Connecticut Ed") claims 90% of members are "regular working guys with regular jobs and families or older guys living on pensions".
But he concedes Bandidos can be dangerous.
Rivals: The group has had a long-running, violent rivalry with the Hells Angels, among others.
A turf war between the two, lasting from 1993 to 1997, known as the "Great Nordic Biker War" resulted in 11 murders, 74 attempted murders and 96 injuries.
Supporters: The Bandidos also have a number of "support" clubs, used to help with legal and illegal activities. They usually wear reverse colours (gold border with red background).
They also often wear a unique patch known as the "Heart Patch".

The Cossacks


Slogan: "We take care of our own."
Origins: Founded three years after the Bandidos in Texas (1969). It's not clear who they were set up by or how they came about, but it's been claimed the group may have sprung out of the Bandidos.
Logo: An angry-looking, muscley Cossack brandishing a sword at his own face with his lizard like tongue out. Their colours are gold and black.
The Cossacks code: The Cossacks claim they traded in the horses used by warriors 400 years ago for motorbikes - although they doubt their members descended from actual Russian Cossacks.
Location: This is a much smaller group than the Bandidos but it's claimed the Cossacks have factions in Australia as well as southern states of America.
Supporters: During the Waco shootout, the Cossacks seem to have been supported by a third biker gang, the Scimitars.
Original article in English at bbc.co.uk

139 comments:

  1. An armed society is a polite society? Doh!

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    1. An armed society is a polite society if the armed individuals are law abiding citizens. I don't think these knuckle-dragging motercycle fairies fit the bill of law abiding citizens at all.

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  2. And gringos like to bragg about how their aint no violence in there country lol

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    1. Sorry but this didn't happen in a gringo country, it happened in a diverse country. Which is why everyone continuously try to flock there. Say what you want where ever you are, but I am sure you would make the switch at a drop of a dime. One incident to how many in Mexico. No comparison! Also sounds like some Latin named biker groups. No surprise at all!

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    2. Typical Mexican hate,I'm sorry but its true..

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    3. There still white no matter what you say

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    4. Our dearest leader, TACO BOWMAN, is all white american, but looks like cantinflas, you could say the Scimitar are moslem, the Bandidos mexican and the Cossacks are russian, Pancho lopez vs speedy Gonzales are kenyan, and mexican weapons dealers and drug lords supply them with machetes made in china...
      --It is like WOW!!! Action, "I need to defend 'my' beloved coulntry"
      --Too much fanatism, 'sugar', the United States of America does not need pig blind fanatics to deal with its home grown problems...

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    5. @10:02 "Also sounds like some latin named biker group. No surprise at all" ...I'm guessing you're referring to the Bandidos, and as far as i can tell you know squat sh%# about motorcycle clubs. Quite a racial prejudice you make bases on their name alone. I wonder why you didnt do the same for Cossacks, a Russian tribal name. Comments like yours make me sick, why are you on a Mexican drug blog, if you feel so strongly about Hispanics.

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    6. 10:02 yust because it doesn't appear in the news doesn't mean nothing happens in the u.s.a look at Baltimore that place looks likes a civil war is going to break out and new York full of drugaddicts looks like a zombie apocalypse broke out. no one is safe around humans.... we are still primitive. YES "WE"

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    7. 10:02am
      Sorry, but they never said it's a gringo country but only that gringos claim stuff like that doesn't happen irrespective of weather its diverse or not.

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    8. Bandidos is a mainly Anglo motorcycle club.

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    9. Hahaha sorry but in Mexico they don't shoot up schools movie theaters and don't bomb marathons just to name some there's violence all over the world captain america

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    10. anglo bandidos lolololol...from mex.

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    11. @5:58 um bandidos r not from mexico....and if u ever pronounced bandidos correctly ( like its meant to be in spanish)when addressing one he would correct u n probably want to chin check u......they pronounce it bandeeddos (with ultra white american voice.)

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    12. @10:40 - I'm right on w/ your comment and agree with all you said - but FYI the I in Spanish is pronounced eee and the e in Spanish is pronounced eh. But your right - the Bandidios were founded by a white guy and here in SAT and Austin I see about 2/3 riding white guys and some Hispanic looking guys.

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    13. Look at the Mexican comments on this story?Tells you all you need to know about them and their thoughts towards other people..Really nice people..

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    14. Yeah in Mexico they don't school shootings and shootings at movie theaters but they do disappear whole towns and murder 43 students all at once.

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    15. Just take a second to reflect on what each one of you wrote.. Now, would you say that in front of your kids? And is this the true you? Or are you just saying that because its anonymous???

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    16. I am 10:40 and I dont see anything wrong with mine......it's only the truth

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  3. Twin Peaks is for lowdown White Trash. thanks BB for your Website keep up the good work

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    1. Twin peaks is good, what you talking bout?lol

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    2. Sounds like 2:19 commenter must dine at Golden Corral or Luby's.

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  4. Wild west revisited in Waco, Tx. today. Not since the days of David Koresh has Waco seen this much death due to a shootout. Probably Bandidos and Hell's Angels.

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    1. There is absolutely no Hells Angels in Texas. The main clubs involved were the Bandidos and the Cossacks. There was a total of five clubs involved. Trust me if the Hells Angels were in Texas with out permission there would be more bikers dead. The majority killed would have been Hells Angels.

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    2. For sure! Bandidos vs Hell's Angels seems to happen a lot, not just in Waco TX.

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  5. Does anybody know what MCs were involved? I can't find any news outlet that provides that info.

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    1. The bandidos, the scimitars, the cossaks, and 2 others..5 total

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    2. Bandidos vs Cossacks

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    3. Bandidos, Scimitars, n Cosasks, what makes it funny is that police knew biker gangs would be there...its almost like the cops were scared to approach them or at least warn them about any trouble hahahaha

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    4. The article says, bandidos, Cossacks and Scimitars

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    5. Where?
      Oh my God, we are soo dumb,
      Ok, maybe the question is which bigger biker gangs are affiliated with the mini-biker gangs involved, like the mongols, outlaws, hell's angels...
      --And being a moped rider myself, I am curious about if the fighting bikers still had their Training wheels on their bikes, my moped does...
      --After the show, the leadership will kiss and make out like John Kerry and Lavrow...

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    6. Apparently bikers are always there 8:59am. Why would the police be scared to approach them? It's America. It's not illegal to wear your colors in public. The police were right there when the trouble started so why is it important for you blame the police for what these outlaws did? Hater!!

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    7. M.C. HAMMER

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    8. Millie is a catalyst for many of the arguments on here with its constant hate...

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    9. Waaah! Millie loves you, and friends and foes, because we are all children of the Lord, even the Vice Lords, luzbel, salome, pocahontas and la malinche, dear mil mascaras, the only difference is: I don't live to see what you do or do not do...

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    10. The police did all the killing. Every dead person was killed by the police. I think this is a complete overreaction by the police it was like shooting practice.

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    11. The Leathernecks were also there, but have not heard if they were involved in the shootings.

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  6. Saw this unfold during the Rockets vs Clippers game...but really Waco?

    -Go Rockets!!!

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    1. Waco, Home of David Koresh, that says it all.

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  7. And what were they fighting for? That's what I don't get of American gangs, wtf do they fight for. Su barrio? Que pendejadas! At least in Mexico se pelea la plaza, las rutas, to do sea por hacer feria y seguir chambiando. No como estos pendejos.

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    1. Bandidos were charging rivals money to operate in territory that Los Bandidos claimed as their own. Rivals refused, people fought, people died.

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    2. Bandidos run Texas. They were trying to charge other biker clubs a tax to ride in Texas. But apparently this also stems from a stabbing in 2013, so it was boind to happen sooner or later.

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    3. Dont be a idiot they fight for areas to control so they can sell drugs and to prevent others from selling with out paying taxes. Biker gangs have their own routes to smugle and sell drugs besides other things that make money. And stop being a idiot because more innocent people get killed in mexico and you proud if that idiot.

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    4. 9:52am is right. It's a plaza fight - just this one was whit guys instead of the daily plaza fights that happen all over America everyday and in every major city where gangs kill for the right to sell their work.

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    5. So they are becoming violent like mexican sicarios. Right on!

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  8. How is this shit any different from zetas and cdg???Ok wait it happened in USA so is ok??double standards violence is the same every where. I feel fad for the innocent victims but in Texas they apply the death penalty here comes the chicharrones ala texas, electric chair anyone jajjajjajaa.

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    1. Here is the short version answer to your question. THEY DONT KILL INNOCENTS!!!! Does that answer your question. The ironic thing is after all the violence was over absolutely no innocents were killed or even injured. No matter whatever violence happens in Texas it will never rise to the level of violence in Mexico. Fact!!!

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    2. I don't remember reading about innocent victims. Did I miss that part?

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    3. What pendejo would expect innocent victims when all of those mofockas are 1%ers and bikers for gosshakes?
      They are all guilty of sompim even if they were not around within a hundred miles!!!

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    4. 6:29pm there were families eating at Twin Peaks during this time also. It wasn't just bikers. Plus 1%ers don't target civilians like the cartels do is my point. So take a long hard drink of STFU.

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    5. @6:53 Who ever said it was OK? No one said that. Why would you even think something like that?

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  9. This is hilarious.

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  10. This is so oldschool biker gangs fighting I thought that did not happen anymore pinches bolios locos
    Wonder if fonzy was there

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  11. The Mexicans fight over money. The Anglo's fight over something more important; a parking spot! Just kidding! Most likely, it was over territory, in regards to money.

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    1. lololololool thanks and thumbs upss

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  12. sad to see this ahora las familias estan sufriendo de los dos lados smh. y yo me awito porque ando crudo lol

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  13. Look at how fat they all are.

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    1. Not as fat as all the cartel pigs!

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  14. Just b/c you don't know why dosen't mean its not BB territory...

    ...not read it anywhere; pure speculation, but...

    The geography dictates how illicit moneys can be derrived. They've got direct trans routes to Dallas going north, Laredo going south. All kinds of things to think about...

    ...percusors (this type likes to tweak), piso, guns going south...

    So no, its not just Branch Dividians in Waco... Tambien esta esta gente basura.

    What is in real bad form is that they did it at a Twin Peaks... ...bola de idiotas.

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  15. Everyone commenting is ignorant as usual. Do your research and see who Bandidos and other MC's work or are allied with. Chivis and all, why do you allow such dumb comments to be posted? It's embarrassing sometimes.

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    1. WOW, elite comments only for el señor patron, si siñor, lo qui usté ordene 'jefe'...

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    2. Your comment was exactly like those you ridicule, you added nothing

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    3. Si jefe, le boleo los zapatos, jefe? Need a shine?
      They shines are famous for their big size feets, jefe, if you need one, "jefe"

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  16. why is this story on a Mexican organized crime blog?

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    1. Because the drugs they sell they get it from mexican cartels

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    2. To make the illuminati wonder...

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    3. Well, lets break it down, the story involves gangs, they are violent, have complete disregard for anybody that their violence affects, are willing to kill people balls out ugly in the middle of the day in the midst of law abiding citizens, and operate moving drugs they buy from Mexican cartels and extorting in a state that borders Mexico. They fight other gangs for control of their area, for the right to carry out their businesses legal and illegal.

      Does that sound familiar to other stories you have read here?

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    4. 100%! 1 quick note on the Bandidos: around 10 years, ago, the Angels executed 8 Bandidos on a farm close to Manitoba, Canada. They don't like each other so much. Bunch 'O Stuff going down in BC, Canada with the Hells Angels losing some control in Vancouver's port, but the Angels still run Prince Rupert:s port farther up the coast. BB is the World's Best Read! Thx 4 UR Great Work.

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    5. Get used to it. You gringos think you are different than Mexicanos? You buy drugs. The drugs buy guns, and cosas lujos. Some Harley Davidson motorcycles have $60,000 dlls. in them. Bad people are going to fight for money. Be glad you do not pay piso or have someone shoot your ass and take your car. Try riding a custom Harley Davidson in this area and see how far you get. Subsidies for violence always works very very well. Drug money and blood flow together. Hard to tell the difference between gringo and Mexicano blood stains. Or the blood of an innocent bystander or child.
      Welcome to America's version of Mexico

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    6. Good one Otis !! I live in the Rio grande valley and it's the same thing over here vallucos run there territory , TCB there territory , Texas syndicate there territory and so on.. They all pay piso and buy direct from Mexican cartels.. So yes this story is very interesting.. I've never heard about these biker gangs, but One interesting movement I've notice here in the RGV we now have all these bikers riding around wearing patches, to add with our corruption getting worse, Makes me think we might be the next war zone :(..

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    7. @8:43am- Where do you think these biker gangs get the meth and junk they move idiot?

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    8. Borderland Beat
      Texas is part of the Borderland

      What part of the English language confuses you?

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  17. Bunch of thugs.

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  18. This seems to have made a lot of posters here happy?Gloating over violent deaths because it happened in the US..Class acts

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    1. ABSO-FUCKIN-LUTELY!

      Don't be a puss... You want class displayed in a narco wars blog where blood is our daily bread?

      OMG! I don't think there is one, NOT ONE! single news story posted on this blog where we wouldn't find (in the comments) words to the effect that the Mexican government is a failure and how that is a reflection of the typical citizen! You'll probably find it within this post sometime, eventhough it has to do with PoorTrash hundreds of miles from the border.

      Another favorite on the BB comments is the one where guns cure all social ills, if only the Mexican people would get a spine (read: like we [ I ] did back in 1789 when "we the people" stood up to tyranical government...). In other words, the Mexican people are cowards for not standing up Narcos that are armed to the teeth.

      We all have our dumbasses...here the "Sons of Guns" version of trash makes its presence known.

      05/18/2015 @ 0933: Wear it bitch. We have to hear it the rest of the time.

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    2. Andele güey, 12:37 has class,

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    3. 12:37 Spot on, lots of hypocrisy in comments towards generalizations of Mexican people. I am not even Mexican but I have to agree. Hypocrisy.
      Everywhere has issues.

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    4. The funny thing is that the bikers killed in Waco were killed by cops not by other bikers so your comments are mute 12:37pm, 5:58am and 1:43am. The US will never be as bad as Mexico no matter how much you hope and pray it will. The US has a population of over 300 million and I expect random violence like this will occur from time to time. Gloat all you want now but it will be just a matter of time when the shoe is on the other foot and YOU will have to "wear it bitch".

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  19. Police should just let them fight it out and kill each other off until there's one person left, then fill a gargage truck with the bodies and dump them in a landfill. Good riddance to this trash, just like the Mexican cartel members.

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  20. Im guessing that the meeting turned bad and the war is going to continue

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    1. The Mongols made the hell's angels run to canada, that is what it is all about, they may have discovered oil and gas in texas.

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    2. Yep and word on the street is Bandido reinforcements are already there waiting for the green light. My guess is that it won't end well for the Cossacks.

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    3. That's a definite.

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  21. I dont know why people keep asking themselves whats the reason for them fighting.. helloooo its fkn obvious .. biker gangs sell drugs n fight for territory in Texas .. guess where they get those drugs from... MEXICAN CARTELS!!!

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  22. This white on white violence needs to stop. #WhiteLivesMatter

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    1. A lot of Bandidos members are Hispanic..

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    2. Ohhhh shit,we have a white Millie.
      My man,how about human on human violence has to stop?

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    3. Oh my goodness! Why did I find this so hilarious!! Oh the humor! Jajaja

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    4. That's is crackerlaficterrific

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    5. #All lives matter

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    6. 9:00 american enterprise manipulating the US government has caused more deaths than the nazis since WWII ENDED, on LatinAmerica, Asia, Africa, moslem countries, bangladesh...
      Unless you do not consider those peoples human...

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  23. If this happened in Mexico the cops would have showed up an hour later with their pants around their ankles talking about "I was in the bathroom, what happened?" Or half the "bikers" would have to go home and change into their "police" uniform to investigate. Instead of nine being killed they would have reported one dead and eight injured. Some of you pendejos have to understand something....When you have a bunch of Alpha males under the same roof bad shit is bound to happen especially when there is already tension within the groups. Texas is Bandido country and if you cross them you die plain and simple.

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    1. Sadly, you are correct!

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    2. I ran across Bandidos. They just don't mess with anyone for no good reason that isn't a rival per say. I do like to see when they ride together pretty awesome sight

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  24. Free Richard Merla!!!

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    1. Why dude?He was supposedly expelled from the Bandidos,bet Quiroga was green lit by them

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  25. 170 ppl in jail on a million dollar bond! They gonna have to sell a good bit of dope to pay that! They picked the worst state possible to kill and get arrested in!

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  26. What a cluster fuck

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  27. Next Government needs to take control of all cartels exterminate all the small cells and let them know they are back in power make rules and who ever steps out of pocket will be taking down just like the old days but I guess that will be hard to do!

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  28. I wonder if this relates to the 15 gunmen storm Texas house" story the other day.

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    1. No, ThinkTank, don't be ridiculous.

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  29. God bless America

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    1. N the whole planet

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  30. couple of things about this . cant wait till the upcoming sheriffs auction on these bikes. two , 9 dead is a big plus getting rid of criminals. 18 plus or minus in hospital well one can hope infections set in . 170 in jail lets hope they get tons of years in prison.

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  31. The difference between this and Mexico is that nobody was beheaded, no members of the general public were killed, the police aren't in collusion with the gangs, the government isn't (nearly as) corrupt. The similarities are that US biker scum and MX cartel scum are both scum.

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    1. You say the police are not involved
      Lol
      I have some beach property in Kansas
      Do you want to buy it?

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    2. The only thing the police did Pendejo 9:55pm is shoot it out with the bikers with guns. I guess that's what you call being involved. Plus these police officers/deputies have already been theeatened by the Bandidos. Cops in texas aren't scared like their Mexicano brothers down south of the border.

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  32. US need more education, oh I forgot, they need better law enforcement, and people should be armed, whats more??? LOL from >Mexico

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    1. Well at least we still get free education and we have better law enforcement than mexico will ever have andwe still have the right to bear arms. So LOL from the good o USA

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    2. Mexico is not the worst country in the world we have :irak syria Honduras peru Colombia nigeria sudan Philippines is not like only the us n mexico exist

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    3. no innocent life lost. police arrested the guilty. they are going to get many years in prison. they put themselves front and center for more scrutiny from law enforcement. they reduced the criminal population by 9 permenently. i see it all as a win win situation.

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  33. The only thing missing from the bad school boy photo is dunce hats!

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  34. Who cares it is only dirty bikers dead!

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  35. As if the coppers really care there are 9 dead bikers!
    Hilarious!@

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  36. For all you white people who ain't guetto or ain't 'bout that life the best translation I came come up with fo' ya'll is as follows:
    The Bandidos= Malandrines.
    You feel me?

    From: Chiraq

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    1. Bandidos= Bandits

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    2. School you.... He means or translation Bandido = Bandit in turn = Malandro....... And Malandrines focus on the (rines) from the word Marines because of the founder of the Bandidos was a former Marine so he equates all that into MALANDRINES well put.... Now do you get him.....

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      The content of your writing is lucid

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  37. White people be like "we believe this event is cartel realated" and are working to find the truth....smh

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    1. I'm white,please don't speak for me Einstein,do what you do best,hate.

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    2. First off, Look up the word CARTEL. The biker gangs ARE cartels.

      Secondly, what white people be doin' is figuring out how we are going to eliminate the scumbags in our society. We will figure it out, and when we do, buddy, you better not be a scum bag.

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  38. let the biker scum just kill each other theyre animals anyway good riddance

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  39. Just another show by US goverment this is where these dudes become fedral snitches

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    1. Thats a really stupid comment.

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  40. lmfaaooo the police were responsible for half the dead. sure these guys are scumbags, but the police were the ones responsible for most of the dead. it was a huge brawl then when the cops came was when the dead bodies started piling up.

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  41. Chivis i saw a comment on mundonarco.com talking badly about you.

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    1. And I hope you gave them s***...
      just kidding,

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    2. Don't you be talkin about Ms. Chivis!! I will go off!!

      Not you 12:00am of course. I was just saying in general.

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  42. What's the difference between these and shit in mex? Nothing. A bunch of idiots fighting for what? Fighting to get killed or locked up first.??And you guys trying to justify who is better.!! What a bunch of dumb asses!!!

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  43. They should meet in a field and get it over with. They won't cs they're to chicken shit. A bunch of fat loser blobs on cheesy shit bikes. Glad to they're dead.

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  44. http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/charges-waco-biker-shootout-could-be-lowered-or-dropped-lawyer-n361566

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  45. This was a cop set up. They knew about this ahead of time. Wake up people. We are living in bad times. Listen to the interview. The cops knew about this all along. Blame the bad guys. They are bikers anyway.

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    1. As law enforcement you can't make contact before the shit goes down. It's call police harassment. They were there to protect the public and that's what they did.

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  46. Bandidos MC wasformed by a Marine & also , a decorated Navy WWII veteran and a couple others . In the 1960's they used to ride to Mexico to see the bullfights. Until Bandido " Sunshine" was gunned down in Mexico by Federales.
    The Bandidos were originally the Eagles MC (AMA) club they fell behind on their dues and got kicked out of the AMA so decided to form the Bandidos "outlaw" club. Meaning outside/outlaws of the AMA . Most all original founders (about 5 ) are deceased now.

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  47. The comments on this story are mostly sad and uninformed. It brings BB down like many other sites on the internet. I try to only give constructive comments on BB. If I don't have knowlege on a story or a trully witty joke, then I abstain from comment.

    I have met many Bandidos and they are for the most part very
    respectful but expect respect by biker standards. Most are big dudes who will stomp someone individually when slighted. Theirmain thing is riding (fulltime if possible). Brotherhood is important to them. It is noteworthy that they still fought in spite of heavy police presence and did not run afterward. The drug dealing s minor in their life of riding, freternizing, boozing, carrousing etc.
    The authorities and media spread propaganda from the start of this incident. Think about how hard it is to run over someones foot with a big bike. Texas is Bandido territory. Only subordinate clubs can display the 'texas' patch on their vest. It is mostly about territorial pride than about money or drug sales. A hells angel was sniped in Austin after being warned to stop wearing his color in Texas. The Bandidos massacre in canada was. Arried out by fellow Bandidos due to grossly embarrasing misconduct by that chapter. Yes the Angels dominate Canada. The Cossack and Shimitars are wearing a Texas patch without permission and will be targeted as long as they do so. I saw a Gypsie Moth vest among the arrestees. The Moths are not 1% ers. They are weekend bikers. Bandidos dont mess with law enforcent clubs or veterans clubs. The fifth club referenced could be a Bandidos support club. There are many. Google Texas Confederation of Clubs. Law enforcement agencies track each 1% MC to their mexican cartel supplier though they may not have a real relationship other than supply and demand tranactions. As for comparisons: the average biker will fight anyone, one on one, anywhere, for a percieved disrepect. Cartel guys seem to be profit driven and wanting to prefer murder with guns against un-armed victims. Hells angles dont allow Hispanics, Bandidos do, Cossacks???

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  48. I will counter your comment with all due respect by saying that both Bandidos and Cossacks are racist groups to the core. When a "Club" rejects a person because they are a different race then at that point I have no love for them. The Cossacks have turned into a whole different animal then what they use to be. Maybe it's because of their new relationship with the Hell's Angels. The Cossacks I use to know were good old boys that wanted nothing more then to drink and party. The limited contact I have had with the Bandido was....lets just say it was less than respectful as you call it. Each time I have seen a pack of Bandidos they have eyeballed me to the point where I believe they were trying to instigate a confrontation. I am not a biker nor do I live the criminal lifestyle so why would they want static me. Well I believe it was because I am a well built dude and they felt like pumping their egos by trying to fight a black man 4 on 1. Well of course I did not ablige them because I had a wife and 4 kids in the car. Plus I have way more in life to lose then they did. And trust me it wouldn't have ended well for me or for them. In my life experiences those who run in packs are cowards and real men can stand alone. Not to say all Bandidos are bad people but I have never encountered a good one. After all they are 1%ers for a reason and it's not because they are saints. I'm not downing the club but their image in the media is completely justified. The only thing positive I can say about the Bandidos and any 1%er bike club is that they keep their club business as low key as possible. This fight in full view of the public is outside of the norm for them and I am sure the Bandido international president is not happy with the results.

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  49. When you live in the 1%, then you know that you might do serious time. Prisons are racially ordered institutions. Though the Bandidos party with black MC's, they would have to follow protocols that are not as close when in the prison yard. Racist to the core? I wouldn't say that. Another reason for the racial propensity of each MC is similar to that of the Italian Mafia. Would you say that they wont let tou join bexause they're racist. They need a blood connection as an added layer of trust while in a felonious org. They feel another race/ethnicity might be more likely to sell them out. The mugshots from waco show some diversity.

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    1. You can only be white or brown to be a Bandido. Cossacks wear the rebel flag as patch on their cut. The fifth picture of the Cossacks on my BB feed gives more proof racist behavior is widely accepted in 1%er culture. Do you see the SS lightning bolt tattoo on the Cossack Road Captain's left tricep and the SS lightning bolt patch on the other Cossack? Like I said I dont believe all Bandidos 1%ers are bad people but hey if the shoe fits....I have known plenty of white classmates who ended up in prison and when they were released they had swastikas and the bolts tatted on their bodies. When I saw the tatts I knew deep down in my heart these guys didn't really feel that way because I knew these guys since childhood. I knew they had to do what was necessary while they were in the TDCJ institutional division. A person has to walk a mile in another man's shoes to truly understand him. In short, I respect any man that respects me.

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