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Michoacan: Discovery Of Ovens Used To Incinerate Bodies

Thursday, August 23, 2012 |

Borderland Beat

Timely in view of Tuta's drivel video production.....Paz, Chivis


Impacto El Diario:

The Mexican army dismantled a camp that was used for the killing, burning and burial of victims, according to military reports. The military report said that in place, military personnel found at least six mass graves containing bodies dismembered and incinerated.
It was reported that during patrols carried out by soldiers, they discovered the site where suspected criminals were operating.  There were three rustic ovens and fires that were used for the incineration of bodies, also found were six clandestine graves with remains humans.
Identity of the victims and their partial identification and gender is unknown due to the condition in which the remains were found, he said. This finding apparently led to the capture of two alleged extortionists who were in possession of   cellphones containing pictures and videos of torture, mutilation and burning of people.
Those arrested were identified as Juan Carlos Rodriguez Chavez nicknamed "El Zarco" and Jose Manuel Valencia Barragan "The Vampire", who were arrested on 16 August.
 
InSight Crime Analysis:
Michoacan is disputed territory for three of Mexico's main criminal organizations: the remnants of the Familia Michoacana, their offshoot the Knights Templar (Caballeros Templarios), and the Jalisco Cartel - New Generation (CJNG). Michoacan has been the scene of some particularly gruesome acts of violence, such as the tossing of five severed heads into a nightclub in 2006, the killing of 12 federal police officers in 2009, and the torture and murder of two young paramedics in June this year.
The use of makeshift ovens to burn the bodies of victims was a tactic used by Colombian paramilitary groups in the early 2000s. The former leader of the Catatumbo block of the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC), Ivan Laverde Zapata, alias “El Iguano,” confessed that he ordered the construction of cremation furnaces to avoid the discovery of mass graves by authorities. He admitted to burning the bodies of over 100 people over the course of several years in Norte de Santander province. Verdad Abierta reported that the practice was also used by paramilitaries in Antioquia to eliminate evidence following executions.
See AJ's Post of this story at Borderland Beat Forum
Insight Crime's full article HERE
 

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Anonymous said...

None of these dirt balls in any cartel are human. They are levels above demons and monsters, mass murdering and torturing their own people while alive. The Mexican government needs to formulate instant trial and sentence on the spot, sentence needs to be instant extermination and death to ANY member of ANY cartel arrested. Their lives need to be taken as soon as they are "arrested". Soldiers need to be allowed to execute on sight any cartel members. There is no word of rehabilitation in these lower forms of life wasting the worlds and Mexico's air supply. End their lives before handcuffs can be used. Immediately execute them and their families so this disease to mankind cannot spread. No questions asked, DEATH TO ALL SCUM CARTEL MEMBERS. DEATH!!!! This is the only acceptable solution for Mexico to eliminate this excuse for human waste! EXECUTE ALL CARTEL MEMBERS AND ASSOCIATES.

scoop said...

Nothing shocks me anymore in regards to the violence in Mexico. The level of arrogance and the ability to never show remorse is sickening. These guys are paraded in front of the media with their heads up and bragging of the shit filled life they lead. All of them look like broke street beggars, raggedy clothes and poor hygiene yet they think they arr admired. Their life is nothing but a sick joke. I only keep watching the blogs in hope of headlines of major bust, apprehended criminals or military killing them. If they had kept everything underground i could care less, but they have slaughtered the pride of the Mexican people.

Anonymous said...

I'd love to see these cartel members killed instantlyt as well; however, the ones that are apprehended are the ones that provide information to catch bigger fish.

Anonymous said...

@10:04

You want the corrupt military to execute on sight? I have a hard time seeing how that will change anything. Innocent people will still be slaughtered, but now under the guise of the law.

Anonymous said...

Actually, they are 100% human. Humans have torture and killed since for ever. Even our u.s forces do it.

Anonymous said...

fck the cartels mexico needs a revolucion and change the government to a democracy well defined andd strict no corruption people that actually care for there country mexico only then will this war end

Anonymous said...

Yes, because we know that would work just great since Mexico is so free of corruption and the government isn't to blame for this whole mess anyway. How about they start by investigating murders thoroughly and cleaning up the corrupt judicial and legislative...and executive levels of gov't in that order.

Anonymous said...

Thats why its going to be Z DEMOCRACY next year...

Anonymous said...

Mexico cartel scum is like the Nazi's... DEATH to cartel scum!

Anonymous said...

This is one of the most morbid story's ive come across here on BB, all the poor people that got taken out there and executed,they would be tied up beside the Ovens smelling cooked human flesh, they gettin beat up and interrogated while they see others getting chopped in quarters or something horrible like that,to go through something like this on the last hours of their lives on earth. makes me sick thinking about it.

Anonymous said...

No offense but this the story that wasn't. Ovens is the main thrust of both articles. So "rustic" and "makeshift" are the ovens that there is no need to photograph them. It just doesn't seem like assembly line oven use witch is the impetus of the articles to grab attention.

The "news" is timely to the psychopath Tuta's talk to the point its a bit of a reach.


Anonymous said...

I agree kill them all, kill all on the spot! They are worthless scum bags, no trial, no jail time. A bullet to the head!

Anonymous said...

So much for CT cartel brotherly love towards it's people. There is no justice or peace mind left in Mexico. You are not dealing with human beings anymore or animals for that fact. Demons and Monsters!!!!! I seen on this blog far more than any person can handle.God Help The People Of Mexico...

Anonymous said...

Anyone know wat group is responsible?

Anonymous said...

than ill sneak a couple handguns and uzis with silencers and start hunting

Anonymous said...

Really,how long would it.take to clean up the corruption,and how many more lives lost in the meantime.?!.These 2 who were arrested,should have gotten ,the same as their victims and cooked alive.

Anonymous said...

What a bunch of sick ppl not only torturing and killing and incinerating but then filming it on cell phones for their own entertainment these ppl are the lowest of the low

jthemover said...

Odd..."the bandit" and "the vampire" don't seem very Christian to me.

Anonymous said...

The Michoacanos don't fuck around if it was only scum bags getting killed n burned fuck it but we all now that's not what really happens

Anonymous said...

Who's camp was it? LFM, Caballeros?
Caballeros cooking LFM or vice versa?

Anonymous said...

"I agree kill them all, kill all on the spot! They are worthless scum bags, no trial, no jail time. A bullet to the head"
That is common sense brah,they got their"human rights"you know.You would have an endless supply of lawyers stepping up to defend them.Not because they believe in human rights,but because it would be a big publicized event.And that's good for their business,especially if they win.Whatever,what kind of shit is going on in Mexico.Has this always been going on,but less in your face?The Z helped the genie out the bottle,and now you cant put it back in.The nihilistic Zetaz.

Anonymous said...

May the gates of HELL open up so they can go home ASAP.

Anonymous said...

Mexico is becoming no different than Nazi Germany with all the mass killings and graves. But does anybody bother to intervene? Nope, this time other countries will let them settle this out.

Anonymous said...

Sad to see Mexico become this garbage country... Once the nation of proud people... Now the proud people have to put there heads down so they dont get murder... Sicarios? No more like coked out punks.. don't blame the US or Mexico for what's going on.. blame our goverments.. politicians are the real criminals... There the top bosses...

Anonymous said...

Everyone insults, and bashes Mexico, and the Mexican people. These people are killing, and kidnapping over drugs, and money. I dont know the true statistic, but I would bet that more than 70% of the murders in the U.S. are OVER DRUGS OR MONEY! UNITED STATES IS AS GUILTY AS MEXICO IS IN REGARDS TO THIS PROBLEM. The U.S. is full of Drug addicts.

Anonymous said...

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2012/08/la_county_meth_ring_bust.php

Anonymous said...

Imagine if they had drones!
They could take out whole neighbourhoods, I mean compounds!!!

Anonymous said...

"OVER DRUGS OR MONEY! UNITED STATES IS AS GUILTY AS MEXICO IS IN REGARDS TO THIS PROBLEM. The U.S. is full of Drug addicts"And Mexico is full of murderers?Isn't that constructive?Get you mad?
WHINE,WHINE,WHINE,WHINE,do us all a favor and shut up.Never change with fools like you.

Anonymous said...

"Everyone insults, and bashes Mexico, and the Mexican people"
Do clowns like you ever desist?This isnt about bashing Mexico you fuckin idiot.It is about what IS HAPPENING in Mexico,do you get the difference?
Does what is happening in Mexico shock and disgust you?Well that is what it does to everyone here.It is not about"bashing"Mexico it is about the heinous crimes going on there.Do you get it now?Probably not.

Anonymous said...

Just remember this can happen in the USA and Canada before you know it. The porus border will let everything in !

Anonymous said...

This can't happen in the U.S. ,Unlike Mexico I got my legal A.R 15 and so do 30 of my friends n family any of these things happen here I'll be out my window lighting these ninjas up .2nd amendment Boiiiiiii

Anonymous said...

Send in a couple of SEAL teams and let them clean up the mess. Only way Mexico is gonna rid itself of the Cartel influence is to have foreign military come in and remove them by force. The Mexican military is as corrupt as any other branch of government.

Anonymous said...

"This can't happen in the U.S. ,Unlike Mexico I got my legal A.R 15 and so do 30 of my friends n family"
FUCKIN HEARD THAT,IM WITH YOU BROTHER,AINT NO MOTHERFUCKERS RUNNIN ROUND DOIN THIS SHIT HERE.
THEY GOTS TO DIE.

Anonymous said...

@4:32 your a complete imbecile, and 12:50 why do you support s bunch of baby killers and woman assassins? Sounds to me the big bad Z is a bunch of pansies, Baby killers=scum.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure that even with your AR, if a cartel wanted you dead they just bazooka your ass out of your house. Plus never say never all society ever needs is someone to show the way, and make it seem that you can get away with it and others will follow. Plus your 30 against a small team of 90 you and your fam plus friends would get smoked.

Anonymous said...

This blog is full of stupid idiots. America loves MARIHUANA, CRISTAL METH, COCAINA, AND THESE GUYS LOVE GREEN PAPER.... THAT IS WHY ALL THE VIOLENCE. YOUR SHIT AR-15 IS A TOY COMPARED TO THE GUNS THESE PEOPLE HAVE. AND A FEW SEALS WILL GET STOPPED IN THEIR TRACKS IF THEY ENTER THESE TERRITORIES. THESE PEOPLE ARE INSURGENTS... LIKE ALCAIDA. YOU CANT STOP THEM THAT EASY. STUPID ASSES

Anonymous said...

"This blog is full of stupid idiots. America loves MARIHUANA, CRISTAL METH, COCAINA, AND"and,and,and.Shit AR?When you absolutely want to kill a fucker,nothing works like an AR.
"STOPPED IN THEIR TRACKS IF THEY ENTER THESE TERRITORIES"Hermano,you can keep your territories,we want nothing to do with it.Crank,you must read more stringently,it said it couldnt happen in the US?Because we got guns and we do whats right.So your al quaida,would be getting its face blew off,they rats with guns,thats all,killing women and children and what are you defending them for you fuckin bitch.Fuckin retard.

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