Friday, December 3, 2010

Beheaded and Castrated in Ciudad Altamirano

December 3, 2010, naked bodies of three decapitated and castrated men were thrown from a vehicle outside the offices of the newspaper “El Debate de los Calentanos”, just a few blocks away from PRI’s very own mayor, Juanchi Gustavo Adolfo Quiñones.

Along with the bodies, a message was left in green paper, “This is going to happen to all those who support La Familia Michoacana”. For god sakes, after so many times of reading the same shit over and over, one can only conclude that this people are idiots with the mentalities of a 3rd grader, feeding into the endless cycle of you do, I do.

The bodies remain unidentified..


Warning, Strong Images!!!









This people, don't they know that none of this is going to help them, in any way. They are not achieving a single thing. It does not scare the opposing cartel, they'll just turn right around and do it back to them. It doesn't scare the citizens, the citizens are so numbed out and used to this shit that it doesn't affect them like before. The tactic of "Calentar Plazas" is a never ending cycle and a bad business option.


I know a lot of the readers here have already read about the tactics being used in this war, specially by the Zetas, the Cockroach tactic as I like to call it, Calentar la Plaza.


Calentar la Plaza - An opposing cartel, timidly scurries into opposing territory, remain hidden until the small hive is strong enough to start striking the city/town in certain key areas, causing a screen of panic and chaos. Since the cartel invading has no business in the area, they don't really care how much attention it gets, in fact that is their main goal. After murdering and shooting police, the reaction from the government is, send out more soldiers, or if soldiers are already in the area, their goal is to get them on edge or even to fiend for revenge.

See, the cartel in charge of the area has no option but to keep "working", regardless of how heated up the Plaza is, they need to be in certain points in the city to keep moving the drugs out and the money in, and since the areas, this far in the game, aren't really that secret anymore, they're a lot more exposed. It's hard for them to keep a low profile, that's why we see a lot of patches when it seems like only CDG keep falling, or X cartel members.. Because opposing cartels, like Zetas will use the cockroach tactic. It's like i've always said, yes some Cartels are very strong and have a lot of power, but others are not, reason why they're not exterminated is the same reason why even new mansions tend to have pests. They are good at hiding in holes, it's a pain in the ass getting each one of them out.


-Maka





Images were taken from Diario de Zihuatanejo

62 comments:

  1. I THINK THEY WERE DIPPED IN ACID FIRST........

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  2. Naaww..I don't think so...They got "skinned"....Acid would dissolve muscle...

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  3. I read somewhere else CPS did this, they are Zetas strongest allies. I just ask myself, what do they get out of this? This is some jeffrey dahmer shit... the mexican govt should take a no surrender aproach and shot this bastards on sight...

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  4. how gross! This mexican president needs to put an end to this Bullshit first druglord down was Francisco Arellano Felix, Eduardo Arellano Felix, El Mayo Zambada, El Vicentillo, Arturo Beltran Leyva, La Barbie, then The barbies Father in Law dont know if I have it Right but those are all locked down now! NOW WHAT THE DRUG CARTELS ARE NEVER GOING TO END WHY??? BECAUSE DRUGS ARE 4EVER IF THE PRESIDENT WOULD PUT A STOP TO ALL THESE KILLINGS EVERYTHING WOULD BE COOL EVEN IF THEY WERE TRAFFICKING DRUGS TO ALL YOU DRUG CARTEL MEMBERS READING THIS BECAUSE IM SURE YOU ARE READING THIS STOP THE KILLING INNOCENT BYSTANDERS DONT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ALL THE CARTEL PROBLEMS YOU GUYS HAVE AGAINST EACH OTHER YOU GUYS HAVE CHILDREN CAN YOU PUT YOUR CHILDREN ON THESE OTHER KIDS PLACE WHAT WOULD YOUR CHILDREN DO WITH NO PARENTS.. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL WHEN THEY WOULD TELL YOU YOUR INNOCENT TEENAGER JUST GOT KILLED AND HE WAS JUST A BYSTANDER LIKE ALL THOSE TEENAGERS THEY KILLED IN JUAREZ CAN YOU GUYS BE IN THERE PARENTS PLACE FOR 5 MINUTES AND IMAGINE IF THEY WHERE YOUR CHILDREN, CAN YOU IMAGINE IF YOU WERE THIS VICTIMS FAMILY THE PAIN YOUR FAMILY WOULD BE SUFFERING.. YOU GUYS ARE NEVER GOING TO STOP TRAFFICKING DRUGS KEEP ON DOING WHATEVER YOU DO BUT DO NOT KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE THAT DO NOT HAVE A FAULT!

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  5. What the hell makes someone do this to another human being? These people are just sick animals, too bad they don't wear signs on their shirts identifying themselves. God, people are horrible. Is it time for Armageddon yet?

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  6. Hunt them down and kill them all.

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  7. The ghouls that do this are not redeemable. They need to be erased.

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  8. Whoa...not only castrated but it looks like their heads were totally skinned. Damn it's so crazy down in Mexic.

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  9. christ. So, is this Zeta's or CDG? Or someone else? I know CDG/LFM have some agreement, but remember that letter that surfaced in April, where Los Gulfos were asking the citizens if they wanted the dirty LFM in their cities? Still, I'd guess the Zeta's. I doubt it was CPS, they are a ragtag branch of the rag tag Beltran Leyva's they have no influence or reason to be in Tamalupias.

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  10. It happened in Guerrero, a place where CPS is known to be at, but I wouldn't doubt zetas were in it. Those bastards are everywhere

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  11. Who the fuck did this Los Anthrax? or El Peinado?

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  12. I thought Ciudad Altamirano was in Tamalupias. My mistake. Then, yeah, it was Zeta's or Beltran Leyvas, (one name or the other). LFM should just let these bottm feeders have the plaza, focus on easier territory. I doubt the ego's would let that happen though.

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  13. The Mexican government has the power and intel to stop this madness. But the majority is being paid by the cartels and the others are diving up the cash they get from the U.S. So I guess Chris Rock was right when he said "There's money in the treatment not the cure". And we can all agree these parasites need to be dealt with!!!

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  14. Ego is everything this stupid war is riding on J... the difference between americans and mexicans is, Americans would cooperate together and get the drugs across. Mexicans will kill each other first then try to find a way to getting the drugs across. Sad but tru, and this is coming from an Mexican American who studied political science. By the way ego is not only a mexican problem, its a latino problem..

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  15. I was in Zihuatanejo last in 2008, one day we took a drive to Petatlan and while walking down the street we saw 2 guys in black military type clothing with machine guns over their shoulders, as they got closer we saw that they had pot leafs on their ball caps. It was clear that these clowns were obviously not military. Needless to say we quickly headed to the car and back to Zihua. Oddly enough I also used to fish with a friend in Matamoros in El Mezquital south of town on the Laguna Madre, I quit going there as well because of similar encounters. Nothing like being a guero while stuck in such a situation, we tend to stick out a bit more than the locals. The moron who runs the Zihuatanejo forums is insistant on telling people how safe it is so as not to see the tourism trade take a nose dive. Guerrero is and has been a hot spot for some time we just dont see all the reports of the crimes committed. I cannot understand how some punk could go to such extremes to kill someone, I mean dead is dead, so it is clear that this has become an sick game played out to bolster some macho assholes ego. Here in the US crazy people do crazy shit but this is on a whole other plane and I'm thinking these guys are not crazy, just evil. When people begin to make a contest of this kind of shit there is something seriously wrong. From Santa Muerte stickers on the rear window of a truck to the narco corridos there is a complete erosion of values and the glorifying of the narco culture in Mexico, shit like this is just an extreme extension of that mindset. My thoughts are if you live in Mexico and see this stuff then you know who the enemy is, they should be stoned to death in public by the entire community. It is so bad that I could advocate the banning of the narco corridos and santa muerte reated shit. There are ways to fight back at the community level. If this happened in the US it would cause an outrage and the perps would be hunted down and sentenced to death. People have been desensitized to this kind of shit and they cower in their homes after dark hoping they wont be next. The military and police cannot and will not ever arrest all these punks, so it is up to the people to get involved and seek out justice by any means. It is high time for some street justice to be handed down to these punks. 9:28 PM is correct, ego is very much at the root of this problem, machisimo is killing people daily, so quit promoting it and man up people. If the men of communities in Mexico banded together and took a stand it would be a damned good start on solving the problem. Mexico suffers from a cultural problem as much as it does a narco problem. And dont give me any shit about the drug consumption in the US, it is never going to stop but at least we're not beheading people on a daily fucking basis! Quit pointing fingers and start cleaning house.

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  16. I don't know if the tactics can get ant nastier than this. Whats next? Grind up captured Cartel members into hamburger meat and force feed it to captured Cartel members. The above pictures are nasty!

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  17. @anon 11:21pm
    damn man, nice post...

    what i find really disturbing about this is that the faces are almost smiling at you in the most macabre way...as if the victims enjoyed what was done to them...when u kno they left this earth in unimaginable pain and suffering...

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  18. This is beyond sick! I agree with 11:21, stop pointing fingers and be part of the solution what ever it may be. God help all of you.

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  19. and just think these guys who did this are drinkin a beer, reading this and having a laugh...uhhhrrrr!!!!!

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  20. good grief...don't give them the idea to grind each other up...

    the freakiest thing about the atrocity factor is that if you have ever had any dealings with Mexicans you know they can be the sweetest , most polite , nicest most endearing people you could ever imagine..and to walk around in the deceptively beautiful towns y barrios, rubbing shoulders ,hangin out ,goin to the mercados, and you wonder, which one of these guys is a pozolero, or a sicario...is this beautiful girl trying to me robbed, or picked up,..is this bartender gonna feed me a mickey....Mexico can be the creepiest place you can ever imagine , in broad daylight, anything can happen at any time...i can go on and on about some foreal muy peligroso lugars i have been ..sometimes the dangerous looking places are safer than the safe looking ones...at least you are kind of looking out....it don't get much more creepy than Villegran o Colon at about 4 am...whereas Morelos y el Macroplaza is all safe looking...totally schizoid..

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  21. Mayas... one of the most savage civilizations to ever grace planet earth.... it is genetic...

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  22. Ay Dios!!!!

    Parece que el cucuy!

    I had no intentions of looking at this...because of the warning, when it is in red..I leave it there. But I clicked on one of the comments and there it was!

    I remember a while back they found a head where the face was removed and sewn onto a soccer ball.

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  23. they look pretty!

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  24. I'm sure the faces were stretched and lips cut off to make them look smiling, also eyelids...not pretty! Especially if it were your brother...

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  25. it looks like they are saying.. I KILL YOU

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  26. This stuff is not new, though our lust for the PORNO viewing of it is. The Colombian Right, with more than just a little push from the USA, was doing this sort of thing decades ahead of Mexico. The media at home just kept quiet about it to cover up the crimes but now it is more profitable in propaganda ways to revel in them... perhaps?

    Remember too the slaughter of US allied held POWs post first occupation of Afghanistan by US troops? Put them into containers and basically roasted alive the POWs in the heat while merrily shooting them from the outside, also. Remember the US made 'tiger cages' for dumping lime on supposed 'Vietcong'? Remember remember the times past of the Sahah and US in the Philippines? (No, of course most of you don't... You had little education.)

    Ernest1

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  27. December 4, 2010 9:12 AM
    Anonymous said...
    Mayas... one of the most savage civilizations to ever grace planet earth.... it is genetic...

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    No idiot! Guerrero, Michoacan, Morelos, and all those states in the middle where aztecs, not mayans.

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  28. I read that authorities had arrested a 14 year-old boy for his role in decapitating and castrating at least 4 men in these horrific drug-influenced killings. Gangs are hiring children to do their dirty work for them, paying them thousands of dollars to slay innocent people. They are coerced in finding innocent men, then torture and sexually mutilate them before beheading them. These "hit boys" , as they call them, are mere children, often under the age of 15. The kid they arrested on December 3, 2010 was only a 11 years-old when he first started. He admits to beheading and castrating at least 4 men, but I'm sure the number is much greater. How horrible and sad.

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  29. When Borderland Beat puts a warning about pictures, you know they have to be bad!

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  30. @whomever it applies

    oye vey guey...the same o lame o draino bullshit ...to hear some parrots squaking you would think the USA is the only country that ever committed any atrocitys...

    and the condescending tone galls the hell out of me ...senor superior...we are all uneducated?...only you know whats up?...what tha fuck ...

    eschucha pendejo...

    every time any more violent "stronger" group of humans have gotten the upper hand , they have tortured, raped ,robbed and killed their fellows... why don't you ever decry that fact?...

    the norse forever labeled half of eastern Europe "the slavs"...

    you never say a word about the violence directed at the Mexican people...you are quite the apologist for the narcos ..it is not their greedy money hungry asses who are to blame..right?



    you insult the Mexican people and their leaders, who for better or worse are the people in place, and refuse to accept the possibility that the USA is not some evil entity...and that there are people in the USA who can actually give a shit about Mexico

    i can see your hundred dollar birkenstock wearing ass smooging around the coffee shop in your "guaty" pants...blapping about what the "government" is doing...and only you ( and those who agree with you) can see it

    just what the fuck were you doing in central and south america all that time anyway..i bet you were exploiting the people in some way or another ,..setting up deals ?.. and now to salve your conscience you have become a loudmouth drumbeater for the "left"

    your same old monotone...i don't miss it ...your dogmatic ignorant comments , y narrow point of view proves that age y travel don't necessarily begat wisdom...

    you reek of privilege ...but what would i know? i am only a poor, ignorant ,uneducated savage , but i really don't need your bitter old elite ass to fight my battles for me

    please allow me to bow and grovel at your feet master..instruct me as to what to think..only you have left the cave

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  31. remember the Bataan death march...remember the Japanese using the Chinese peasants for sword practice, remember the Korean "comfort" women...what is up in the Sudan..slavery...remember the Serbs raping the Croatian women so they would be forever ostracized ...how about the Palestinians ...go to Pine Ridge Souix res in South Dakota...what do you see?...open your eyes ...it is every where...beat this drum about how it is the plight of all humanity to exist under violence and injustice ... and i will bring my djembe and join in....otherwise... yawnnnn...snore ... boring

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  32. Brito...
    Cleary and truly I agree, it is so easy to condemn and criticize from afar! Anon at that. Come on folks pick a name so we can agree or slam your OPs...be brave it only hurts a little.

    Brito...you are getting too fired up, I fear you may have a stroke, better see the doc and check the BP...for Buela so I don't have to worry.

    Isn't your wife pissed all the time on BB? Better spoil her, she probably thinks your watching porn

    Paz

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  33. It's Ernesto One-Note again complete with his attitude of total condescension and his hatred for anything US - where he lives - in safety - where he can say anything he wants. It's not that he doesn't appreciate the US it's just that he's a troll and he can't help it. He doesn't think he's boring he thinks he's fascinating and brimming with wisdom. Pobre de Ernesto. Nada mas es puro sangron.

    PL

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  34. Re--comment made earlier--

    The boy authorities arrested was "El Poncho", 14 years-old. It is reported he was paid $3000 for making a hit. The young boy said he was "coerced" into sexually torturing, castrating, and ultimately beheading at least 4 adult men (no doubt a conservative number), while under the influence of drugs. While the boy may have been coerced, he did confess to the grisly killings. And although he may have been forced to torture and kill, it is also likely he was tempted by a life of easy money and the glorification of being a "drug lord". El Poncho showed no remorse for the castration/beheadings of the men he slayed---in fact, the little kid admitted that he "liked" castrating and beheading the men. I hope the kid is severely punished for his role in these horrific killings. He needs to be punished so that other children do not follow his example (although unfortunately, many are still involved at this very moment).

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  35. @ B

    i do work on the net...

    you must know her....jajaja...she is sure i am on instant messenger hablando con un otra puta...
    and gives me hell sometimes...and i do spoil her ... but she is worth it ....

    no problema ..I am a type A... i thrive under stress...comes in handy sometimes..

    i spent a lot of time with the Rainbow Family of living light and have heard every conceivable kind of kaka there is

    the shit here is just childs play

    it is not that i don't think the USA is up to some shit, it is that i think ALL governments are up to some shit, and don't see any merit in only holding one offenders feet to the fire...

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  36. this kid knows right from wrong..he did it for the money...coerced...bullshit... there are thousands of kids his age in Mexico who are victims of bad circumstance and make it the honest way...this evil faced little prick chose his path...and if he could have stayed free y alive he would have matured into a full fledged big time narco...fuck him... feed him to the sodomites...as an example to others

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  37. jajajajajaja porbre vatos..

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  38. Some of the comments ask "why would anyone do something like this?" Some part of the answer has to be to terrorize their opponents. So by re-posting these photos BB is in some small way helping the perpetrators accomplish their goals.

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  39. @Brito!

    JAJAJAJA...you are killing me, yes I am doing intelligence for your wife...my secret is out.

    @ Maka
    saying they have a mentality of 3rd graders ...no-no, third graders would not do this Ed Gein shit...sorry for you youngins lets try Dahmer shit. So it is an insult to 3rd graders, how about the mentality of a sociopath? and the heart of the devil? I think the devil now has permanent residence in Mexico.

    And...this Mayan Aztec stuff? I am screwed either way both run thru my genetic thread, however part of who we are is genetic but part also
    environmental. Actually now that I think of it, aztecas invented basketball, only they used bolders and human heads...hmmm, sounding familiar. And to go back to smurf shoe theory, Smurf may be correct, tho the commoners did not wear shoes nobility did, sandals, so if one was killed removing them would be an insult. actually I remembered the same shoe thing but looked in my fav book on Azteca and gave up.

    I recomend the book tho a masterpiece:
    Aztec: an interpretation

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  40. Not as boring as you, PL....

    'He doesn't think he's boring he thinks he's fascinating and brimming with wisdom. Pobre de Ernesto.'

    You and Lil 'brito can run your mouths nonstop when it comes to flaming me and yet not ever say anything more important than 'Ain't 'Merica great? and we hate anybody who sez otherwise.'

    Ernest1


    Ernest1

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  41. @ B

    i knew it ...

    the biggestest, mostest grandestest conspiracy uvem all...

    IT'S THE MUJERES ///THEY ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER...JAJAJA


    about the genetic thing...lets not forget the bloodline of those paradigms of mercy the Spanish, who i am sure raped their way through Mexico

    i have some cherokee blood , also german, irish, and dare i admit it jewish..and i am sure i could peel the piel from some culero for harming mi esposita...

    i think it is just the human condition, we ARE the monsters

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  42. 'lito 'brito, don't you want to laugh at yourself when you say silly stuff like this to me?

    'you (Ernest1) insult the Mexican people and their leaders, who for better or worse are the people in place...'

    You remind me of the type of young Anglo nuts that shout out from their cars to elderly retired in their late '60s and '70s people protesting the US wars that they should all go out and get a job. In other words, you are kind of cluelessly strange. Don't you see the humor in your briefs?

    Ernest1

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  43. maybe they are just shoeless bastards, or yeah..HAD some expensive botas o sneakers....i could see some theft going on..maybe a souvenir...like jaja now i got you pinches botas culero...who knows?

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  44. 'lito 'brito said...

    'eschucha pendejo...you (Ernest1) insult the Mexican people and their leaders, who for better or worse are the people in place, and refuse to accept the possibility that the USA is not some evil entity'...

    What a cerrote you just pushed out, 'Brito! How in the world have I insulted the Mexican people in any shape or form? You know absolutely nothing personally about me at all and just push your poop and inane conjectures out without any clue, Dude.

    I married into a Mexican family and have a kid whose first language was Spanish, not English, despite raising her from birth in the US. My family visits Mexico and our relatives wife's side at least twice a year, and oftentimes more often. And now you want to tell me that I supposedly 'insult' Mexicans because what???? I talk bad about Calderon and PAN? Sickening. My relatives are PRIistas and I talk bad about the PRI, too. So damn what? It's hardly a sign of 'insulting' the Mexican people to do that. Only Mr. 'brito might come up with trash like that.

    Besides, what you are really all peeved off about is how I'm not infatuated with the US government, its military, its consumerist culture, and its genocidal capitalism that you seem to so utterly adore. You want to accuse me of being an anti-Mexican racist now? What a piss poor effort to try to hide your own reactionary politics behind! Can't you come up with better than that, 'Rush' 'l "brito?

    It really gets me how utterly lame the Democratic Party Hispanic crowd in the US (and 'brito seems to be an example of that), with their sad efforts to imitate the gringo Right centrist set, can actually be. You want me to pretend and be silent about how the US is intervening in Mexico now, but I just won't humor you, 'Brito. I'v seen first hand the destruction of US militarism done to Colombia, I've seen it in El Salvador, I've seen it in Nicaragua, I've seen it in Guatemala, I've seen it's bullet holes pock marked on buildings in Panama, I've seen its terrorism in Honduras, and now I recognize it when it hits Mexico ONE MORE TIME there again. I'll talk about this whether you agree with me or not and despite your protests that the US is supposedly being picked on by 'lito ol' me.

    Ernest1

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  45. man lito brito, i never want to get into an arguement with you. you know how to lay a smackdown.

    well, i think that i'm going to be the only one defending ernest1. i'm glad we have him because we need to hear both sides of the story. he's definitely a character.

    yeah, he's condescending and insulting and arrogant and one-sided and anti- american and....but that is the whole point. i think you're showing your cards too much. you're just giving him satisfaction. he knows how to push your buttons now. he has insulted me a few times too.

    but you gotta try this once in your life. i recommend....i dare you to get into a heated debate. heck, maybe even a lil' argument with buela chivis. now that is a challenge my friend. no one on this panel is more fun to argue with than buela chivis. this lady packs wit, intelligence and attitude all-in-one.

    then you're not just wasting your words. now ernest1 will just ignore your comments and wait for the next time to insult you again.

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  46. @ernest1

    im glad we got you becuase the united states is a very corrupt and greedy government. no other country has had more wars than the united states and no other country invades and occupies other countries than the U.S. i look at how the U.S. government has destroyed our economy and other economies as well. this country is run by greedy banks and puppet politicians. and they have placed their pesky lil' hands in mexico's business too. not to mention, they are responsible for giving mexico over a billion in arms. i am proud to be an american but i wish back the days when we had leaders like roosevelt and kennedy.

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  47. @lito brito, agreed! The little kid knew what he was doing. He was not coerced or "drugged". As a matter of fact, the boy admitted to authorities that he "liked castrating and beheading men." Not only did he kill them, but he participated in sexually torturing the men before beheading them. In the video, the kid shows no remorse whatsoever. He was just sad that he got caught---the little brat.

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  48. yeah i am laughing ..cause i am a pretty happy guy and i know i am laying a BURRNN on your ass...imagine me con un gran sonrisa

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  49. better to be the hammer than the anvil...but as a country we are in moral y economic decline ...

    and someday soon we will be a "third world " nation, ...the Chinese are being groomed as the new fist to wield the sword for the internationalists...

    just think our descendants will get to lament about how they are pushed around by China...

    and Americans can get some sympathy from Chinese coffee shop revolutionarys...

    maybe some of them will even come to the USA and live for a while to validate themselves while they comment on BB

    oooppsss!!!!forgot China dosen't allow dissent...or freedom to surf the web

    my bad...but anyway the beat goes on

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  50. Ferras, ya estuvo! , Ferras

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  51. Ay Ajulio..
    You are too late I already self appointed me as the Pres of the E1 fan club. Not because of his beliefs, but because he brings the "con" to the debate. And that is a good thing. He is intelligent and woefully wrong, BUT there are issues where he offers truth and I see elements that we can agree on. & now that I know he is not Assange, I am cool with it.

    But, do you want to cause me more gray hairs for me to have to clairol out? Suggesting Brito debate me? Especially now while he is man on fire? He is in the red dog zone, making my brain spin 360s Je Je, I do admire his patriotism, that is something we agree with. The US is flawed, for sure, and I sure as hell do not want our soliders in combat in Mx, Mx has 130K soliders, to take the duty away from Mx society will weaken and compromise. I do think training and advisors is a must.

    But even with our flaws we do many things correctly and thoughfuly. We are a giving nation that cares about the needy of the world. The Aids issue is a perfect example, I think that was a great accomplishment of Bush and of our citizenry at a time directly after 911. to support and insist on assuring poor people in Africa would be given the meds that has/will savethe lives of millons. That's the america I love.

    Flawed? Yep...but it remains the best country in the world..

    My dos centavos

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  52. THE GOVERMENT IS CONTROLLED BY "EL CARTEL DE SINALOA"
    AKI SEGUIMOS RIFANDO Y LOS LACRAS KE NOS KIEREN DAR PA BAJO SIGUEN SIENDO DEGOYAOS

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  53. I gotcha buela. The U.S. is still the best country in the world. We are the only ones who protect the world and usually we are provoked into wars. I would choose this country over north korea any day. The freedom to accomplish your dreams is what makes this country special and what makes us unique is our diversity.

    But seriously, i think you two have disagreed but i don't remember seeing you and lito ever go at it. I would love to see you two have a friendly but heated debate one day. That would be a good one.

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  54. I am still shocked that something like this happened. Unbelievable. The level of violence there has gone haywire. Drug cartels are using children to do their dirty work. And children are being drawn to an imagined life of glory and riches. The sad reality is that it is only an illusion for these kids. Look at the boy they just caught. So young yet so brutal and unremorseful. You'd think the kid would shrink out of fear from doing such horrific, cruel things, but no. Instead, the boy casually confesses to the murders! I hope the kid is jailed for a long time and made to do hard work. For a young boy to torture, behead and castrate several men---geez, that is so wrong, so evil! And for him to say he "enjoyed it" is despicable. I can't imagine what the men went through. The immeasurable pain of being tortured, then emasculated, and finally beheaded---by a young boy (!)---is not only cruel but humiliating.

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  55. The poor kid they caught nicknamed El Ponchis is really a victim. Yes, the boy admits to castrating and beheading at least 4 adult men, but he did it for the money. It is reported he was paid $3000 for each man he castrated and decapitated. But the boy also said he felt "bad" that he did what he did, and vowed never to do it again.

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  56. Seeing the picture of the 3 men's heads besides their severed sex organs will give me nightmares for a long time coming. And knowing that children are doing such cruel, senseless things is even more horrific.

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  57. dam thatz sum sick twisted shit those fooz really aint playin dog

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  58. Does anyone know if it's safe to go to Progresso? I hear that Nuevo Laredo is not but we are from Texas and would like to know if Progresso during the day is okay.

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  59. When an American smokes a joint or does a line of Cocaine they are supporting this!!! Still High!!! Your Pathetic!!!

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  60. dammm so many comments..... wat i hate bout stupid ppl that dnt kno wats gng on in mexico they just talk. not only mexicans do this ppl from el salvador guatemala n other fucken places como 2our country n start working like this cuz in thier country is really poor....more than mexcio.

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  61. Wow the debate. Made for some interesting reading; even if it does just keep going around and around in a circle until someone is finally able to beat their fists on their chest in triumph. Let's face it people: this is horrid, on that we all agree. But it's not new and it's not limited to any one culture, race, or country of people. EVERY country has a violent history. And that violence always comes down to either money, religion, power or a gross combination of all of the above. The only reason American's tend to not realize their own violent past is because, by comparison, we are a baby country (yes, I am a born/raised American). Oh sure, we massacred the Native Americans (our land now; either convert or die), had a civil war thrown in there (under the pretense of being about slavery, but again...it was all about money and power, slavery was only the minor issue - and feel free to debate me on that, but in high school we learn that many Northern presidents had slaves too. Hypocrites.) and the tidbits swept under a few rugs...but we're innocent. Sure, we'll go with that.

    Christians and Muslims have been having their wars since, really, Christianity came about. There's another violent past that stretches through several different countries and has committed even worse atrocities than what's depicted above. Then there's Hitler from Germany (for sake of arguement, we won't get into when he was born and yada yada), between the Inquisition and Hitler you've got millions right there that were tortured and murdered senselessly...all for the sake of a few power hungry men.

    So, that covers the past couple hundred years and a handful of countries...do we really need to go any further back in history to prove the point that this is 1. Not new 2. Is a representation of EVERY country and EVERY civilization's history and 3. Will forever be a part of past/future/present as long as mankind exists on this earth? What's the point of arguing it? You're grown people so intent on being heard and having everyone bobble-head their agreement with you, that you're failing to miss the point.

    You're all right. And you're all wrong. Like children fighting over who broke the already broken toy. I'm 19 and I can see all this...so why can't you, and are you really solving anything by continuing to try to cast the blame as far from yourself as possible? Face it: every single one of us is guilty in one way or another, some more-so than others, but while you're sitting in your room smoking the weed you bought from the guy down the street and trying to be philosophical...maybe you should take a closer look at that joint and wonder just what all went into putting the sack in your blood stained hands.

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