[ Subject Matter: Mexican Cartels
Recommendation: Some prior knowledge of Cartels past and present would be useful
See link to BB Founder Buggs article updated by BB Reporter Itzli on Cartel Structure]
Reporter: Rafael Croda, photo by Octavio Gomez
Cartagena, Colombia.
The Director of the Criminal Investigation Agency of the Attorney General of the Republic, tomas Zeron considered that in Mexico their remains only two drug Cartels, those of Sinaloa and the CJNG ; the rest are groups of hundreds of independent cells that arose from those criminal organizations that have been attacked the most, wage a bloody war for the Cities in which they operate.
"Its a phenomenon that I believe is generalized", said the functionary to Proceso.
According to this diagnostic, the detention or death of the heads of the cartels del Golfo, of Juarez, of Tijuana, Los Caballeros Templarios and Los Beltran Leyva have dispersed their criminal structures, and that they stay decapitated and fight amongst themselves in order to control their illegal businesses.
"They are cells that are trying to search for the power to survive, and that is reflected by the homicides among them. Actually the high impact killings are not happening, they are infighting for power", says the Director of the AIC.
He says that right now uniquely there remain three big Capos of drug trafficking in Mexico: Ismael Zambada "El Mayo"; Fausto Isidro Meza Flores "El Chapo Isidro" and Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes "El Mencho". The first two being leaders of the Sinaloa Cartel and the third the Boss of CJNG.
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Do you consider that the CJNG is at the level of the Sinaloa Cartel or that it can be more powerful?
I cant measure the two like that, I believe that it is a strong cartel with a marked presence in the States of Jalisco, Guanajuato, Colima and Michocan, for example, and with a level of strong violence also.
In Mexico there are only two drug trafficking Cartels?
It is that I have identified those Cartels that are operating and functioning. The others, as happened with the Knights Templar with the detention of Servando Gomez "La Tuta", who was apprehended in February past, the are disjointed and start to work like independent cells in the Towns.
Zeron, who head the Mexican delegation in the 32nd International Conference for the Control of Drugs, that runs from Tuesday the 2nd to the 4th in this Colombian port, is to agree on the fight against narco trafficking that is carried out as a mark of respect to human rights.
There are sectors that ask if was necessary to kill the 42 people in the confrontation of 22nd of May in Ecuandureo, Michoacan: if they were all criminals, does this amount to a major lack of respect for their human rights....
What I can comment on is that today the instruction that we have from the Attorney General of the Republic, Arely Gomez, in relation to human rights in principal; is to take care of the human rights of whomever is detained, and to follow proper processes, and it is something that every one of the elements of the PGR, principally the members of the Police, they are careful, they guard the rights of every one of all of the people that they detain.
But there were 43 dead in Ecuandureo, one of them a policeman
This is an investigation that is still open. We are working, determining what exactly happened there, and since the first moment all of the Federal Police as well as the State Attorney have given access to the National Commission for Human Rights and the Inter-American Commission for Human Rights, because today en this Government the situation is open, and if there are some people culpable, well they will be punished, and to see that they conform to the law and respect due process.
The PGR are investigating what happened there?
Initially the case was in the hands of the State Attorney General, I believe that after they have finished the expert reports on all of the bodies and the various matters that they are attending to, we are going to make available all data to SEIDO on the level. Firstly that there was an Federal Policeman involved, (killed in the confrontation) and the calibre of the arms that they found.
In the case of Operation Jalisco, on the 1st of May also there are denunciations that there was an excessive use of force
Really I have no documents on this data. The detained were really very few, and all were respected for due process. All were certificated ( Otis: I think this means medically ), I have not seen any registration that there had been violations of human rights in Villa Purificacion.
The Dispersed Groups
In Colombia there is a worry about the growing presence of envoys of the Mexican Drug Cartels, that arrive to make transactions, assure the cargo's, and to make collections to send the drugs North.
There is coordination between Mexico and Colombia to approach this problem? is this a plan of the Director of AIC.
We have coordination, but when I can comment on is that in Mexico the Cartels have been reduced. Of the 122 targets for arrest, we had at the start of the administration, we have captured or killed 100 of the most sought after.
Do you worry about the growing presence of Mexican Cartels in Colombia?
I have not observed that, because at the end, I am seeing is an internal struggle in Mexico to have control.
In this anti drugs conference there has been talk of the transformation of narco trafficking in Mexico, do you agree with those who say that the Sinaloa Cartel remains very strong?
Ill make this clear, and I believe in how much we are working agains the Sinaloa Cartel. As yet we still have not caught Chapo Isidro, Damaso Lopez Nunez know as "El Licenciado".
And Mayo Zambada?
Yes but with Mayo I don't see him operating much. Chapo Isidro I believe is carrying out the operations of the Sinaloa Cartel. Obviously, with the image that Mayo represents and with the CJNG, we are going to persevere to achieve the detention of El Mencho.
Zeron explained that the strength of the Sinaloa Cartel is in the trafficking of Cocaine, meanwhile the CJNG is more focussed on methamphetamines.
Without doubt, the anti drugs authorities of South America have detected the presence of envoys of the CJNG in various countries to traffic Cocaine, which shows that growing participation of the criminal group in this business.
And what about the remainder of the Gulf Cartel?
Well the Sicarios, they were executing their enemies and today they are converting leaders even though that seems problematic: they don't have the financial capacity nor the contacts to get drugs. So they are dedicated to other illegalities, like express kidnapping, extortion, and with this they are surviving.
And the Cartels of Tijuana and Juarez?
The Sinaloa Cartel took control there.
And Los Zetas? they have been diminished
Totally, totally, and I believe they are on the point of disintegration.
Original article in Spanish at Proceso
Chapo Isidro one of the Sinaloa Cartel leaders? WTF i thought CDS was his main enemy
ReplyDeleteIsidro is part of BLO, not cds. Just a small error thats all.
DeleteDam this dude sound like a complete moran. Chapo isidoro works for the Beltran.
ReplyDeleteChapo isidro is guasave cartel now
DeleteWell,lets hope they get some nice lobster..
ReplyDeleteFarcical as ever..
Yeah this guy is a cartel nuthugger too. But I think he has some truth being that the cjng and sinaloa guys are considered to be cartels, being that everywhere else they're fighting for scrapes. Like in jaurez and tijuana there's no dominate heads there just reminates of basura here and there.
ReplyDeleteWhat about el Senor Ivan Guzman? El Senor Mini Lic. ?
ReplyDeleteEl señor??? No mames , both of these two are jst spoiled brats that dont run shit , el mini lic is just that a spoiled brat that has no power other than his pops protection, and ivan is nobody just the son of el chapo, i think Ovidio guzman has been putting in way more work and has been the main one from the sons just that he is smart and keeps low key but he moves all the weight or most of it,0plus his wife is connected too big time so i see him as a threat more than ivan or alfredo , they are just the flashy rich hijos de papi spoiled brats , have u ever heard a corrido about him? Why you think
Deleteno llegan a los talones.... los Jrs. tienen su tiendas y plazas pero la verdad es que todavia no tienen los contactos politicos como los viejones. No quiero decir que no pueden pero si noque esta generacion no a llegado asa nivel todavia. Esperen hasta que se retiren los politicos mayores y entren la nueva generacion.
Deleteen sonora y hermosillo manda el Chapo Trini y manda mucho material a estados unidos no más que no le gusta la propaganda y por eso muchos ni lo conocen.pero esta muy pesado, al nivel de chapo isidro.
ReplyDeleteQuien son los aliadios del trini. Lo que sale en mantas es que el kadete y asta el 2000 segun, entonces alomejor los beltran tanbien. No confian en el chapo porque nomas pone a su gente igual que el mayo.
DeleteMas pendejo puedes estar el trini ni en su. Casa manda no vale pa pura verga el trini aki los mero chingones de sonora son los salazar el trini el yeini trabajava pa los zetas komo kien dise por k vuando ya no le dio apoyo el cadete se alio kon el cholo y ya k lo agararon pos se kedo solo asi k ya tiene sus dias contados igual k alfredito olivas...PURA GENTE NUEVA.SALAZAR C.D.S AL MILLON
DeleteTas mas pendejo k no se k el. Hapo trini ni en su casa manda viejo aki los k mandan en la GENTE NUEVA y pa k te kede clar el chapo trini era gente del cholo delos zetas se alio kon el ya k vio k ya no la podia y ya k agararon al cholo se kedo solo ya tiene kon tado sus dia el pito ese igual k el alfredito olivas PURA GENTE NUEVA AL MILLON CAMISA GUZMAN SALAZAR C.D.S
DeleteDont be to hard on him Maybe he is only counting the ones who he takes bribes from
ReplyDeleteI believe that Chapo Isidro is CDS. It makes sense when you think about it. El Chapo Guzman was the one that Beltran Levya's blamed for Afredo's arrest and Chapo Isidro was going after him principally. He gets captured February last year and then a few months later Chapo Isidro's cartel is being hammered so he might have gone into partnership with CDS to maintain strength and without being aligned with El Chapo Guzman, his main adversary.
ReplyDeleteYeAh I commented the same theory. But I noticed they didn't mention el azul so does that mean they believed his families story bout him being dead from a heart attack
Deletehay la posibilidad.. esa..
DeleteEstado de mexico governor peña nieto and genaro garcia luna betrayed arturo beltran leyva "el barbas" for all the marbles, ask la barbie...
Delete--But you can blame el chapo 'til the cows come home...
Arturo blamed El Chapo for Alfredo's arrest, I didn't. That is why there was a war in 2008 and 2009 whether he really did is not very important. You can talk about who turned in Arturo "til the cows come home..."
DeleteI thought chapo isidro took over what was left of blo after the arrest of el h. This guy is an idiot. Or maybe mayo and isidro have an alliance since Guzman is out of the picture. N did u notice how he wasn't worried bout mayo. He left mayo out n said he wasn't operating much. Must mean mayo is paying big bucks to politicians. And the Somalia cartel is focusing more on moving heroin not just cocaine. Cocaine use has dropped while heroin is the no. 1 drug being used in the USA
ReplyDeleteI typed sinaloa but my phone corrected with Somalia for some reason
DeleteYou are so dumb for believing this bullshit
DeleteLol borderland beat has lost all credibility posting this bullshit
ReplyDeleteAre you implying everything he said is bullshit? I think he is right about only those two cartels are currently moving major weight, he also right about the high impact killings are not happening. Nearly all of the Capos recently have given up without a fight when faced with arrest.
DeleteOpinamos que te vayas mucho a la chingada si no te parece gringo. Los Hermanos Brothers
DeleteC,mon man,don't be like that.BB is putting it out here for all of us to digest,and comment on..CDG,Zetas,BLO,CT,CAF.etc,have all taken huge hits and some nearly annihilated,thing is could Isidro be playin with CDS now?
DeleteThanks Otis B for the work
On the contrary, this post makes it even more evident why BB is a great source for narco info!
Delete...and so it goes that the Alphabet Agencies watch , study , and assimilate everything here. I'm looking at you C.I.A. ( Christians In Action) - El Soldado Perdido
DeleteWhat a government official says to save mexico, his ass and peña nieto is usually all bullshit, BB just reports what he said, and no opinion, why attack BB as if it was the blog opinion?
DeleteWhat BS does he ever travel Mexico. No he sits in a nice office in Mexico
ReplyDeleteLol the sinaloa did not take control of juarez they were beat in juarez who the hell wrote this. There is a dessimation of the sinaloa in the whole northern chihuhua xp wow chapo izidro leader of sinaloa? Bullshit information
ReplyDeleteAnd you know this because let me guess you read something else somewhere else? That is why you just do not get your news from the same source dummy but that is how cheerleaders are.
DeleteSinaloa won juarez it is only obvious......
Deletetheres no cds in juarez just los aztecas and lineas does that look like they won too you??? dont get me wrong cds/gn is active in el valley de juarez but not a piece of ciudad juarez... saludos desde la colonia anexas
DeleteHello Otis,
ReplyDeleteUnderstand Ramon Ricardo "El Coyote" is out of Jail in back in San Fernando Tamps. w/ Los Zetas
Ill have a look out for that, what do you think about zerons comment about los zetas are about to disintigrate
DeleteThey (Z) r not has strong as they were a year ago. I agree with u about what Tomas said. Here Tamps the Golfo have a leadership problem, too many groups inside the Golfo. Will be going back Friday. Let u know what I see.
DeleteHello Otis,
DeleteI knew Don Juan Garcia O. when he was boss he respected the hard working innocent people of Tamps. We had no problems. Now u don't know who's Boss. I do believe the robberies, hijackings, kidnapping r done small groups that have nothing to do with the Golfos, but it is not safe to travel Tamps. Or maybe it is the Cartel doing the bad deeds. All I know I have to be careful. I could run in the wrong group.
I was wondering who is the gatekeeper of Nuevo Larrdp?Notice it seems to be pretty calm so who is in charge?An obvious point would be the serious undermining of CDG to make any kind of effort?Nuevo Laredo is huge to the Z they hold it,but who is the individual ?
DeleteA lot if not most of the zetas have been obsorbed into the cdjng.....that is why they r decomposing
DeleteChivis and Itzli are our best people on Z and CDG. Hopefully they can help you out here.
DeleteIt's an ongoing mistake by BB forum posters to ask "whose in charge" "who s the shots" etc. when you have a well run plaza (NL por example) or a well run billion dollar cartel it is usually successful b/c there is a group of smart people pulling strings. From the biggiest companies and their board of directors to the so called CDS that people like to put a face on - they are consortiams where the Mayo, Chapo, z40 and Tutas are as replaceable as a tampon. They are pawns used as an ends to a means and when they're useful time is up - buenos noches!
Deletehahaha these dude saying most zetas became cjng (Matazetas)
DeleteYou guys don't get it he is being paid to say those are the only cartels to put the heat on them
ReplyDelete@gringo from san diego
ReplyDeleteHehe just because I translate these articles, doesn't mean I agree with what is said. It just means that is what is in the press, that is not being translated by the other reporters. However, this is the story that he is giving to the rest of the world. Do the rest of the world know any better? Not really.
BB publishes articles for the novice, intermediate and advanced readers of the drug trafficking conflicts. BB publishes both sides of any story if it is available, Zeron is wrong about a lot of stuff in this article, but if I hadn't posted it, you wouldn't be discussing it now. And discussion about these article is BB main priority.
Zeron is talking to make saving peña nieto's ass and make the cartel de las lomas look more desirable than the other cartels and state club gangs...
DeleteWho yoo with ottis
DeleteGod or th devil ¿¿¿¿
DEAR.chivas.Could you please post this few lines for me.Its a matter of live or dead.WITH ALL DO RESPECT CARTLE DEL GOLFO ZETAS THERE SOME PEOPLE FROM GUERRERO COAHUILA WORKING FOR THE LAW DONT BLAME THE LAW IT WAS THERE CHOICE AND CARTLE DEL GOLFO YOU ALL GOT SOME PEOPLE FROM HARLINGEN TX AND PRIMERA TX .ESPECIALLY. LUIS GONZALES SON IN LAW
ReplyDeleteTAG NUMBER -DGG-7911 WHITE EXPLORER. ITS SAD WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND YOU LUIS WE GREW UP TOGETHER THATS MESS UP.HAY LUIS WHATS UP WITH THAT SO PRIMERA BECAME A RATS NEST.SINALOA CARTLE BE CARE FALL . MR. CHIVAS PLEASE PUT THIS ONE UP .QUE.ZETAS POEPLE FROM GUERRERO COAHUILA THERE UP HERE IN SEATTLE W.A SOME BODY FROM GUERRERO ANSWER BACK.
This guy acts like he doesn't know what's going on but he knows exacly who is in charge of drug traficking and what cartels hey belong to. There is 5 major cartels not just 2. you got el golfo, zetas, cjng, cds, even ct are big and not dismantelled like they claim.
ReplyDeleteThey forgot to mention that El PRI is the real cartel.....that sinaloa cartel pays to operate so does the cjng....but the real monster is el PRI, them fuckers operate legally and always find others to sacrifice and give to the American gods for sacrifice and media propaganda....is simple look at the 43, the 72 ,Dr mireles, Los zapatistas in chiapas, anyone else who is a obstacle to the government......the PRI claims they are doing their job and that they protect the population all a lie....
ReplyDelete12:00 This cynical point of view is right, it has been el PRI MEMBERS ALL ALONG, and those uncontrollable crime areas, have been because someone related to el PRI wants it so, like Guerrero state, mayor abarca and governor aguirre, are PRD, but their wholly wooly asses belong to el PRI and peña nieto...
DeleteHe is right in a sense about the cartels. Zetas has no visible leader, Golfo and CAF are just cells fighting for turf, etc. they don't have the power anymore to buy federal forces or the military like those two cartels
ReplyDeleteCdg don't fight for turf they got the turf.it's more of a faction against faction for total control poo f other factions or to designate the other factions and replace with their own.
DeleteHe's wrong about los Z. They cultivated too much power and reach from the years 1999-2012 to go away without years of arrests. They are so difficult to eradicate bc they dont need drug trafficking to survive as a group.
ReplyDeleteHe is probably right in that a cartel controls multiple entry, and exit points, and can therefore dictate the wholesale price. Calling all these DTOs, cartels is technically wrong. They are actually more of a hybrid between middle eastern warlords, and traditional street, and prison gangs. CJNG, and CDS to me seem to be the only traditional cartels.
ReplyDeleteAs far as saying Chapo Isidro is with CDS, who really knows? Stranger things have happened before, but it's outside my scope of knowledge.
What is the connection between the state of monterrey and the state of sonora?
DeleteRich people who are also powerful politicians and casino owners, and drug traffickers on the american style, nobody knows it and the US hides their records from the public.
aque mandar a este inutil a juaritoz para q vea quien esta en control
ReplyDeletebb come on what the fuck is this bs
ReplyDeleteotis,what kind of reader im i? lmao!!!!
ReplyDeleteNot the disrespectful type over the last week or so Jose, im impressed.
DeleteBe cool Joseph,we all talkin on Mexico that's all,cause we interested?Nothing so wrong with that bro?
DeleteCLEARLY, THE.WILLIS KIND, joe...
DeleteThis is not 100 percent correct . Eventhough it is true that Mayo zambada and BLO chapo isidro do have an agreement and are working together. After Guzman is out of the picture .chapos sons could do nothing but accept BLO after all their cousin Mochomos son is a leader of CDS ,Mayo never wanted war in the first place.El licensiado macho prieto ,el bravo,Manuel Torres the groups directly fighting chapo isidro didnt agree but the bosses did ,nothing could be done who ever didnt agree had to be removed .
ReplyDeleteeste wey como bas decir que cds controla juarez si haya estuve y toda la ciudad sabe que es los aztecas y la linea que toman control en juarez y chihuahua
ReplyDeleteObviamente son puras mentiras compa ademas son PRIstas siempre queriendo engañar ala gente
DeleteThis guy is on point cartel de sinaloa took over ciuda juarez and tijuana only nutthuggers dont want to see the true, second el chapo isidro i tito bletran started to work whit cds when chapo turn him self in, long time , el mayo zambado is the most powerful drug lord that why he aint even talking about him
ReplyDeletedude jf you actually go to juarez you would know the truth and im not being a nuthgrabber
DeleteEsos de sinaloa viene para mi pais colombia a cuidar sus cargamentos son unos berracos los parceros aqui son respetados nostros sabemos que ellos son bravos i sin miedo , muy pronto voy a visitar culiacan, sinaloa aver si me caso con un sinaloense
ReplyDelete×Colombian barbie girl×
Yeeeayah right on Barbieboy go to it
DeleteGive that sharpie back to teacher
... Under One Umbrella Since The Late 80's? ... For People Who Are Not Familiar With How The Plazas Were Split Up , Please Continue Reading ... Félix Gallardo kept a low profile and in 1987 moved with his family to Guadalajara city. He then decided to divide up the trade he controlled as it would be more efficient and less likely to be brought down in one law enforcement swoop. Félix Gallardo convened the nation's top drug narcos at a house in the resort of Acapulco where he designated the plazas or territories. The Tijuana route would go to the Arellano Felix brothers. The Ciudad Juárez route would go to the Carrillo Fuentes family. Miguel Caro Quintero would run the Sonora corridor. The control of the Matamoros, Tamaulipas corridor - then becoming the Gulf Cartel- would be left undisturbed to Juan García Abrego. Meanwhile, Joaquín Guzmán Loera and Ismael Zambada García would take over Pacific coast operations, becoming the Sinaloa Cartel. Guzmán and Zambada brought veteran Héctor Luis Palma Salazar back into the fold. Félix Gallardo still planned to oversee national operations; he had the contacts so he was still the top man, but he would no longer control all details of the business. Don't Trip Otis, Everyone Has An Opinion, But Some Opinions Are Just "Way Out There In Space" ... Keep Translating
ReplyDeleteGood post man,concise explanation and reminder on how it worked for a moment in time..Until human nature got hold of individuals
DeleteDifferent politicians and DFS agents split the guadalajara cartel, not miguel angel felix gallardo, and the first to go big was amado carrillo juentes, because don neto had it all ready, but caro quintero, el chapo, el azul, el mayo...were supposed to stay behind back in guadalajara selling naranjas or elotes from sinaloa...
Deleteplease elaborate and tell us what cartels are in tamps. "drug cartels" havent' operated in tamps. for a long long time now.. what you have is a conglomeration of cholos (street hoodlum kids) calling themseleves CDG ( dragones, metros,ciclones, mamones, mariposas, rojos, lobos, panteras rosas and so on) with no money and no drug connections, just a bunch stolen vehicles and weapons that they don't even know how to use properly. you have these hoodlums fighting for control of municipios for the right to feed off the local hardworking population who slowly but surely are realizing that there is no cartel in tamps. to be fear anymore... all you have are armed gangs of 17year olds fighting para chingar al que vende elotes... no cartel is pushing drugs through tamps. and if they are i guarantee no one in tamps. is making money from the drug trade
ReplyDeleteMy people are from Chiuas. And I hear there is a lot of movements going on. Juarez is not dead. And Sinaloa DOES NOT have a grip on it either. I find it very funny how Mayo is being protected. Even adding an enemy as an ally. Genius, have an enemy take the fall for you.
ReplyDeleteI think there is more than a nugget of truth in what Sr. Zeron said. That said, we must remember this is about 'perception control' and the Sr. must be on message. That message is to protect the ATM tourism machine and to minimize the perception of a broken government coupled with gratuitous violence. Mexico had anemic economic growth this past year and economic growth raises all boats in Mexico. I do not think Sr Zeron is merely putting lipstick on the gargoyle, KO
ReplyDeleteSo this guy don't know shit.I mean yes the cds and cjng are the best organized criminal organizations but I live in the Texas border and the cdg still strong even if they're divided.the matamoros faction still business as usual.and I can't speak for the people in el also but it seams like the Juarez cartel under el j.l. are still around
ReplyDeleteOttis too cool fly wheel you are right my friend but if it sounds like bullshit please don't post and get all these nut hugger riled up....p.s what ever happen to the chapo snitched guy?
ReplyDeleteIf I put out any article about Sinaloa, the huggers come in flocks, cant do anything about that, and that pretty much the same for any reporter here who reports on Sinaloa.
DeleteHowever, hidden among the insults, and the nut hugging, there are some good threads, I like the way the Chapo Isidro convo's are going. Everyone who has our level of contacts knows that he is BLO, but this guy is privy to informational sources, that we never will. Like the DEA and ICE reports, the DEA probably have people in every cartel. I suspect they know better than anyone what is going on, as the resources they can put into ELINT ( electronic intelligence) beggars belief.
I think it maybe was el chapo that was posting those, as the chapo snitched messages stopped around the same time he got arrested! Holy fuck. Either that or he was a retard and only knew two words.
There's no reason to say that anymore. The nuthuggers "people from sinaloa" will say he is not a snitch and be indenial eventhough there is evidence that he did snitch. Plus he is old news just complaining about how inhumane it is to be in altiplano prison. one last time.. CHAPO SNITCHED!! lol
DeleteTamps. needs revolution and all of Mexico. Just need a leader. Its time its been over 100 years. Probably need a some honest General like Profirio Diaz
DeleteChapito knows the winning team is with mencho right now he's not stupid
ReplyDeleteAdministrator. I have a topic not really related to this but here goes. What about Eugenio Hernandez? Former governor of Tamaulipas. Does he fall after Yarrington is caught and talks? (the governor that preceded and appointed Eugenio who is now wanted and missing if I am correct). Or....does PRI help a fool out or leave him to hang as they appear to have almost totally abandoned him although he once was a rising star with legitimate federal ambitions.. What is going on? Where is Elmo? And where the hell is Eugenio? T.M.
ReplyDeleteNieto owes these guys, so he protects them. How long who knows. Eugenio has a coke problem
Delete@ Gringo..
ReplyDeleteIf your a gringo you should be happy this guy Otis B takes the time to translate and then post on BB,and then has to put up with grown ass men like you fuckin gibbering about nothing.Give it a rest man,for fucks sale
Tijuana cartel got taken by jalisco ng..
ReplyDeletePóngansen a pensar nomas salio caro y todo se calmo.. less cartels. Chapo ,tuta,hector beltran, vicente carillo, z42,z40, luis fernando arellano.. el pelon x20...
ReplyDeleteCaro quintero controla todo cjng y cds son socios
He needs to go to Juarez and spout off this bullshit. Or Z or Golfo Plazas. ask those in the oil business in Mexico what cartel is taking half their oil production. Poorly informed, outdated crap.
ReplyDelete4 or 5 oil corporations in texas were buying all the oil the zetas had to sell, guess they all were in cahoots with mexican and US or at least Texan government officials, but the border patrol and customs are federal...
DeleteCantu governor of Tamps. is worthless, but he is get rich.
DeleteViejidio cantu is conquering tamalepas for el pri, one Herculos kidnapping at a time, lety salazar may not get to be even a candidate for governor...
Deleteu r so right what son of bitch all the innocent being killed and he doesn't care. Is money that important to him Blood Money, Why do these Tamps. Governors and politicos have Blood on their Hands? Bad Bad People
DeleteAnd yes, Chapo Isidro has been the biggest thorn in the side of CDS for 10 years.
ReplyDeletePeople of this rank make statements like this to achieve a strategic reaction/purpose not just to 'inform public' .......as Sinaloas are often seen as the 'good' guys (publically) perhaps it's an attempt to turn public opinion and other non mentioned cartels to consider CDJNG enemy #1....unrelated but just watched a great documentary on bugsy segiel and how he was responsible for starting the mex-USA heroin trafficking.....he did it under the guise that the US gov had commissioned poppy in MX for morphine for WWI....while gov may indeed have done this, bugsy used it to run wild and told farmers and local authorities it was for US gov
ReplyDeleteBet he isn't on the Zetas Christmas card list this year, LMAO
ReplyDeleteThank you Borderland Beat for every article , every shootout , every video you guys publish . If it wasnt for this page i know many of us would be in the dark on whats occurring in this planet we live on . Our news coverage here in USA on drug war is a joke . And i know Mexican reporters keep quiet or get chopped up .
ReplyDeleteThis dude act like he knows but he needs to drive around these places in the ranchos see if he says there are no cartels he likely to be chopped up and made into stew Mexico is not safe.
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ReplyDeleteTo be honest there is a cartel for each region this guy is Litterally saying. Hey other cartels operate to your full potential because There is a power struggle between two big cartels sinaloa and jalisco. Sinaloa is fighting with in and Meza Flores will take it over if we dont stop CJNG. Weve made the CJNG our main target every one so please fully operate just don't interfere with the MZ enterprise.
I think those Sinaloa leader bust is MZ trimming the fat buildung a new tighter circle.
Oh and to make a statement like MezaFlores is CDS is stupid!! Wow the MezaFlores lost family and friends. MayoZambada lost sons to USA prisons big ouch! He has no friends. Only family so that is hurting him. MZ and MF are not friends. I'm not even sure if MF are still allied to ZETAS but I would not doubt it. Juarez supplied. ZETAS had the man power. BLO Had the trade routes and locations of enemies. All things considered at the time it was the best alliance . The Federation had not collapsed and Gulf organizations Tierra Caliente Organizations and Baja Cali organizations either defected or allied and now it looks like the only alliance left if any is the ZETA BLO CFO. It would not suprise me if there is a new cartel the GOV is protecting and they are waiting to strategically destabilize the main cartels.
ReplyDeleteOtis great job
DeleteYeah, the new cartel is the old PRI, again!
Delete--And all the narcs in prison may be considered the boiler room cabinet of peña nieto's drug trafficking...
chivis you allow this EPN misrepresentation/propaganda truth? BB is losing cred. and fast
ReplyDeleteBB ain't loosing credibility, we still have 1 million plus views a day. We just report what's out there about the drug war. So you mean other news outlets that are reporting this also loosing credibility? ..and those are well respected news outlets. Dam dude you talk without thinking. Just so you know BB is a main source for many law enforcement agencies. Peace vato!!.
DeleteNo,I,EPN ordered BB to post it,because BB and I,EPN are Illuminati and in league with the NWO...Weally,we are weally,honest
Deleteok guys i am goning through over 200 comments backed up and remind you i will not be able to get toa ll.
ReplyDeletebut also I did not approve those post or any post we give guidelines but each reporter chooses their own post without scrutiny from admin. so stop writing me and complaining about the choices.
Do I think this post is correct? nope, live in the NE a while and tthen form an opinion that there are only 2 cartels.
This week there were several stories in the asian press about cartels moving in big time into asian countries and working with Triads. CJNG and Zetas. as for CT, they have not been eliminated they are repackaged into cells with alliances, agreements and no agression packs and still moving their drug without missing too much
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Deletewhat about the tijuana and juarez cartels?
DeleteIt's a cartel related story,the interesting part is about Fausto Isidro,still Guasave Cartel or is he working with CDS?
DeleteWhat's the problem,most here won't subscribe to the story but why people have to get hysterical?
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ReplyDeleteSuccinct and to a point very well made..
What it is....
Sounds like there could be truth behind Chapito being reabsorbed into CDS after Chapo went down along with m1 machoprieto pena20 el 50 el bravo since these were the primary enemies in the front lines vs BLO along with el Cholo who is on the run. Don't forget chapo isidro began his carrier with el mayo back when la federacion was all 1 under the leadership of arturo beltran leyva. We know there's a truce so perhaps it's all in 1 again. Can't forget the tito beltran factor.
ReplyDeleteAki andamos en apatzingan puto ven a darte una vuelta pa echarte a un tambo de diesel aki TEMPLARIO al Millon
ReplyDeleteHey templario al millon, que pasó con el broli? Deveras lo desaparecieron sus propios camaradas ct por celos?
DeleteI like all u guys work. Keep it up. Been reading u guys for years.
ReplyDeleteYes u r right means to say Tamps. still has problems, and the small r the problem. Good point
ReplyDeletewhat happened to Lucio?
ReplyDeleteHe is still around, just busy is all. Lucio has spent a major amount of time producing articles for BB, as have I. Life intervenes sometimes. He is still working on draft articles
Deleteoscar el lobo valencia is a rat!! he is snitching on Cuini in the usa! straight truth!!
ReplyDeletethey all rat once in jail
DeleteArriva la Federacion!
ReplyDeletePero de futbol jajaja.
bullshit post just like bush/911
ReplyDeleteotis or chivis,,, since cjng and cds are moving drugs right,,, my question is why wont the other cartels move drugs too like cdj los z cdg bl,,,, is it cause theres no more room for them too move drugs or do they have too be favored by the government???,,, sorry that i may sound like a idiot... i dont really know much about the drug war and all that
ReplyDeleteall the 9 cartels are moving drugs, but the drugs that worry the USA administration are cocaine, heroin, and meth. Those drugs are imported into the USA at the moment in large quantities by Sinaloa and CJNG.
DeleteAs capos get captured, their connections to drug producers in Colombia, Peru and Bolivia get disconnected, sometimes for just a short while, sometimes permanently. A lot of Capos were caught last year, so there has been major disruptions to the other 7 cartels leaving only Sinaloa and CJNG operating drug trafficking unaffected and moving major weight.
Hope this helps
alright thanks otis
Deleteotis. you are wrong. all cartels have conections to colombian, peru, Bolivia coke. especially the zetas, they have people in those places too just like cds and cjng
DeleteI wonder how much he got paid to leave El Mayo out as his least priority.
ReplyDeleteYou've mentioned the mexican street gramero operations and operators, the real business owners and operators keep moving it, thousands of trailers crossing the border in inspected carry their fair weight, and each handles more than grams, the cartels is PRI vs all comers, and there are plenty of former tamalipas politicians sharing the cake, federal senator manuel cavazos lerma at the head of the table...
ReplyDeleteMan please,a story gets posted and many idiots come out to play?This is BB,is this story cartel related?I would think so,make your own minds up..You motherfuckers chase BB workers away who get fed up with your whining shit..
ReplyDelete8:51 it is not like anybody has to lap it up, zeron's words are the same mexican government bullshit as always, AND that is the discontent...
Delete--Maybe if someone finds out about zeron's corruption or hidden casitas we'll be happier, that got osorio chong to shut the fuck up, and epn and videogaray running for the mountains...
Los guachos got like 30+ tons of Mayo's weed in Tijuana.
ReplyDeleteeither the translators got his words wrong, or the guy doesn't know what he's talking about: Chapo Isidro is enemy of Sinaloa and runs his own business, Sinaloa has faded in Juarez, and Los Zetas will not be removed any time soon from from Nuevo Laredo the source of their power.
ReplyDeleteSo called drug cartels in Mexico are NOT cartels. Look the word up "cartel": "competing firms agree to fix prices to keep profits high" this has not happened since the days of Felix Gallardo. Instead you have firms that attack each other, destroy their business and profits. They are criminal gangs, some are regional in power, some national, a lot of small gangs but they are not cartels in the true sense. Even Sinaloa Federation has also continued to disintegrate. Also, los Zetas are disintegrating totally. They've lost a few territories and networks, are quite now lost a lot of leader, but it's a Nuevo Laredo based organization. They got NV on lockdown.
ReplyDeleteGotta agree here. Im from Texas and los Zetas Run their shitty little dope loads from their shit hole near coahuila y nuevo laredo to Brownsville and Del rio. From there they move it to San Antonio. From there it is moved to Dallas and Houston. From there they move their shitty little loads to Las Vegas and North West states. And up the middle to Cheeeeeeecago and to the east like tge carolunas. The zetas took many businesses so they do have front operation. Any one saying los zetas are don is ill informed. They operate but now since every one has a gun they dont tell any one they OP for los Zetas. Guess the finally realized that in numbers they won against out gunned outlaws or civilians. It sucks when the odds are even doesnt it putazzz??
DeleteQue bueno que en Mexico hay politicos Como este busy que son de Los MAs informados profecionales en el mundo! Y hasta honestos! Jajajajajajajajajajaja!
ReplyDeleteSi Como no! El que se cree de todo esto cree en la llotona tambien!
However believes this stuff coming from a Mexican politician believes also believed that Osama Bin Laden was hiding in a cave somewhere and that Sadam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction!