Tuesday, January 15, 2019

El Chapo Trial: Cifuentes testifies Enrique Pena Nieto received 100M from Chapo

Chivis Martinez and Mica Borderland Beat



 Explosive testimony by Alex Cifuentes today

Defense attorney, with his own problems, Jeffery Lichtman, during cross examination asked Cifuentes; “You gave a story that Mr. Guzman paid a bribe to [former Mexican president] Mr. Peña Nieto of $100 million,”

Cifuentes answered; “That’s right.”

This allegation has long lingered since just prior to Pena taking office.  Supposedly it transpired in October 2012 which is after he was elected but before but before December 1st when he formally took office.

Lichtman tried to hook him into the story that Pena was paid 250M.  Cifuentes said, “No he wasn’t paid 250M but that was what Pena asked for”, I said that Chapo was requested a different amount than what Pena was paid."
The money transaction, was by a woman intermediary, nicknamed "Comadre María" in Mexico City, says Cifuentes.

Former president Felipe Calderon

In a 2016 debriefing to U.S. authorities, Cifuentes also accused former Mexican president Felipe Calderon of accepting bribes from the Beltran Leyva Organization or BLO for protection primarily against Sinaloa Cartel.

When asked about it by Lichtman, Cifuentes replied; “I would like to see the document.”

Lichtman then showed the document to Cifuentes, who said, “Right now, I do not remember that.”

He was then asked if it was true,   Cifuentes said the BLO “did send their army against Mr. Guzman.” Cifuentes also claims Chapo had a military captain and special forces on the cartel payroll who provided information used against BLO.

The court room quickly  recessed directly after this proclamation. 


It is unclear how this witness was even able to sneak this testimony in—the government already asked that this line of questioning not be allowed in, Cogan rules in their favor and drastically limited the testimony.



Once it was in, the government filed a sealed motion to attempting to limit the testimony of a witness.

It could be Alex Cifuentes, but since the judge already ruled against allowing much questioning regarding past presidents and bribes, it would appear a private side bar or conversation out of earshot of the jury would suffice.


The new filing is to obstruct testimony about bribes to presidents and others.  I am confused as this was already ruled on.  Cogan said that line of questioning would be too confusing for jurors.

Update:   
Judge rejected the prosecution’s request, stating in effect the cat was let out of the bag yesterday.

Full docket text for document 551:


MOTION in Limine to Limit Cross-Examination of Cooperating Witness Pursuant to FRE 402, 403 by USA as to Joaquin Archivaldo Guzman Loera. 

Rules of evidence 402 and 403

"Relevant evidence" means evidence having any tendency to make the existence of any fact that is of consequence to the determination of the action more probable or less probable than it would be without the evidence. RULE 402

FRE 403. Evidence may be excluded if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of:  Unfair prejudice →refers to the danger that evidence might suggest an improper basis upon which the jury could decide the case.

Prejudicial Effect... When the evidence is called by the defense the balance between probative value and prejudicial effect is weighed further in the side of admission. A judge should only exclude evidence where the prejudicial effect "substantially outweighs" the probative value.

133 comments:

  1. Of course he did! His wife recently purchased a house in Hancock Park in LA. Another multi-million dollar house.

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    1. Who gives a rats ass. These guys will never go to prison. They work for uncle sam

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  2. El Mencho must have paid the 250.

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    1. Mencho doesn't pay the federal Goverment onlly the state and lower lvls. If the State wants him they can try and get him but unlike the Snitchaloas they better be ready for war.

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    2. The fact you reference “snitching” to anything proves you don’t know anything kid. Go back to watching Gangland for your source of how the international underworld works kid

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    3. 1:44. No that just shows there’s two different kind of gangsters. Real ones. And snitches. Some still have nuts and a code.
      Hope your guys know what side on the line your on.

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    4. 1:44am birds of a feather flock together.so only a snitch would be ok with another snitch💯

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  3. I hate the sell out Mexican presidents!!
    Hopefully AMLO stops all this nonsense

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    1. He’s been accused if taking money too, or did you think the whole poppy legalization things was from the kindess of his heart?

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    2. Legalizing poppies would do the opposite for the cartels. It would not help them Tonto

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    3. 8:27. Kidness of his heart? If he did not legalize it thousands would starve to death on a monthly basis. Specially since the demand for fentanyl has increased causing the value of poppy produced tar or china white to decrease drastically.

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  4. EPN is a fucking God chulada de hombre 🥰😍😍😍😍😍😍 anyway, it doesn’t make sense. if he bribed EPN then why was he caught TWICE and ultimately extradited under EPN? 🤔🤔🤔🤔

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    1. Once squeezed for the money, he served no use to EPN...makes perfect sense.

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    2. ...and that is why he is being thrown under the bus. Because after all that money paid he backstabbed chapo. Remember, there is no loyalty amongst crooks and criminals.

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    3. Because epn is smart. But the devil is smarter, $pend away epn hope it make you happy inside.

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    4. Maybe epn betrayed chapo. Be difficult to kill guy like epn

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    5. My theory is EPN just didn't give a fuck

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    6. Or the us had something on him and forced him todo it for pr.

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    7. EPN BETRAYED THE HAND THAT FED HIM HE WAS PAYED FOR YEARS WHEN HE WAS GOV OF MEXICO CITY!!

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    8. 7:06 EPN didn’t fear retaliation from his family or associates though? I know I would regardless of being the president. If someone can bribe a president they. Can also bribe those close to him. What if his bodyguards or whatever he had betrayed him for a good amt of $ lol

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    9. 9:40 maybe he had plans of moving out of MX too who knows

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    10. 11:33 well if he did receive the bribe, it wasn’t for free it was for a “protection” or “favoritism” so he uh worked for it?

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    11. Peña Nieta is not smart. Just was protected by the government, and media. Without that he falters.

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  5. Niiiiiiccceee. 100 Million ain’t no little shit. In cash, all at once. For that money, I’d be corrupt to, I can’t lie. It’s gonna happen either way.

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    1. 100 million pesos. Most likely. And EPN is not good with the Mexican people. I wouldn’t doubt the nation turning there back on EPN if USA decided to go after.

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    2. @3:04

      At least you’re honest

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    3. Makes mexico look bad though even their own president was on the take. All that money isnt gonna do him well in prison. Im sure Amlo will do something

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    4. 7:11 No. It was not pesos. The president would not engage for 5 million dollars. When the reward on Chapo was slightly over that...

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    5. Chapo was not going to give 1/10th of his fortune or 100 million dollars for anything let alone no guarantee against imprisonment where he is located now. This shit was pesos

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  6. Las traiciones están de moda entre políticos. - Sol Prendido

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  7. that is fucked up crazy stuff..

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  8. I wish I could say I'm surprised, I'm only surprised at the number, I figured it'd be higher or lower.

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  9. Business as usual. BFD

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  10. The devil is waiting for you EPN. the sooner the better
    atte pink p@nther

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  11. Yeah sure. Fuckin lies. Puto Nieto never received such shit. It is always someone said and someone told me. Never the person delivering the money.

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  12. And Chapo also paid the military 10-12 million so they can fight the Beltrán Leyva cartel.

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    1. And the La linea as well...

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    2. And the Federal police for opening the path in Juarez.

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    3. That's not much money for that kind of operation I think

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    4. @3:24AM WTF u mean 12 Millions aont enough?? To kill the opposite cartel "legally" and still lookin like they doing their job? Come on now..

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  13. This is beyond embarrassing if true. Although we all know it is. Incredibly demoralizing for the country

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    1. Its gotta be. The lifestyle and cash EPN has doesn't come from politics. Him letting Chapo get caught and sent to the US was his way of saying "How could I take a bribe if we just got him?"

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  14. I sure hope the US is following these funds. Mexico has to destroy their corrupt political class once again in history.

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    1. The US knew this was going on. You think the DEA didn't have agreements with cartels?

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  15. PRI party is done after this.

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  16. Good- now ask him who he paid on this side of the border

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    1. Nobody... that is the corruption of of Latin America.... face the facts... if you are so convinced it happens in the USA provide proof or stop trolling...
      GC

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    2. Wrong there are plenty law enforcement on payrolls of criminals like the border patrol and us customs officers and of course police officers lawyers you name it not just Mexico money makes the world go round!

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    3. Likely nobody here, other than his attorneys, will think of taking his money.
      He is still in jail, he’s still on trial, he’s still going to get convicted, he’s still going to spend the rest of his life in Florence ADX.
      America isn’t Mexico.
      He’s paid off no one here.

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  17. All he does
    Deny deny
    Cant believe destructive criminals

    Always thru third party
    Modern politics clever to the game.
    No voice
    No bills
    No happen

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  18. Probably EPN took money from both Chapo and Mencho.

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  19. 100million! Wonder how much Mayo and Mencho will have to pay AMLO.

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  20. This is Mexico. Nothing will happen. Move along. Nothing to see here.

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  21. That's a lot of cheese partner...

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  22. You cant operate without govt permission. Dont think for a second you can.

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    1. You are correct.
      What's so disturbing is no government official will ever stand trial for their role of drug trafficking.
      Question remains if financial support to countries in the war on drugs should remain.
      Moreover, the consequences if such a decision to stop funding will have dire effects.

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  23. The more I think about it, the more skeptical I am. $100,000,000.00 in $100 bills weights over 2,200 pounds. Moving this much weight would be really hard and require many people and lots of security.

    Nothing indicates it was done through the banking system. Let’s pretend it was done through banking. That would suggest the US government is either not capable of locating or is then covering up.

    Mica

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    1. There are people taking 25million at a time with semi's into Mx and you find that difficult to do in Mexico...

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    2. 100M in deeds would only weigh a few ounces.

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    3. Mica gtfo bro i swear u and Steve D are fuckin annoying. U find this hard to believe?? Dumb ass what kinda bizz u think chapo was in?? He was moving metric tons around the world!! G.C.

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    1. Exactly lol if I was a narco I would make sure to keep proof of everyone who collaborated with me just in case they wanna act brand new lol

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    2. The proof is in the pudding.

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    3. Ha ha ha ha....are you for real you think the government the Mexican government is not corrupt??? Or you really think all the drug king pins in Mexico are free and do not get arrested because they all hide under tunnels and are lucky?? Or you think Chapo really escaped because he is lucky and smart??

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    4. yes but unless there is proof what is said is an allegation....right?

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    5. But I would be nice to have these corrupt mex politicians arrested and also extradited...since it is them that has mex the way it is

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    6. Eyewitness testimony? But like it's said it's just an allegation.

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    7. The proof, remember chapos lawyers trying to delay the trial. They were waiting for EPN to leave office to leak this info. Also EPN flipped bc of gringos pressure. The USA used this knowledge and forced him to capture Guzman. El senor knew this and made sure his sons at least Won against damaso and settled for their freedom. Once EPN left office,it was game on. Specially since the new govt is with Sinaloa. Right now, they (AMLO) are taking away the finances of alot of these splinter groups and CJNG by hitting the gas haulichioens. CDS/CDP never got involved besides Chapitos faction. It's all good. Game plan in motion 💯

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  25. Chivis, is there a recording of calls made by the twins? Not just to Chapo but to all the people they spoke to?

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    1. yes
      i posted the call log of recorded calls on one of the posts i did of the trial, obviously when pedro was testifying or about to. i think there are about 50 calls

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    2. Ahhh ya pero solo para leer no se escuchan?

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    3. I bet the twins won't lay low when they get out

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    4. Are there any calls with Arturo or those where they made them fear for their life ?

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    5. I was grossly off there were 100 recorded calls see the call log date, names etc in this post

      http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/12/el-chapo-trial-any-idiot-could-sell_19.html

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  26. SOmethings to think about

    1. Cifuentes is an admitted liar.
    2. He has said this for a long while
    3. it was not cash but a network of intermediaries headed by a Mexican woman.
    4. money supposedly originated from CDMX. so AMLO if he is honest will trace the money.
    5. EPN was enmeshed in dipping in the the coffers, since he was in office of which there is plenty of proof. so we know he is not honorable.
    6. it would have t be a high figure for a president to accept
    that said- i think the figure ---if true--is somewhere in the middle--but 50m doesn't seem enough...

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    1. Ref # 6 I've read on the news corrupt people get caught for accepting bribes for unbelievably less. Everyone has their price and limits. Money talks and BS walks.

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  27. Its not what you know its what you can prove! EPN too smart, might as well forget about it.

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  28. It's going to make bounty hunters and photographers want to follow Pena Nieto every where he goes to see where he hid the money and with no body guards he will always look over his back for kidnappers.

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  29. $100 million cold hard cash... from Chapo to Nieto. Deposited into Panama banks by Juan Armando Hinojosa Cantu...

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    1. This guy is from Reynosa and was good friends with deceased tamaulipas governor Cantu and other poilticans in TAM

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    2. This makes me wonder if the actual truth of something unknown has ever been posted in the BB comments.

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  30. Grupo Higa shell Companies moving that $100 million for Nieto. Nobody would suspect that money came from Chapo to Nieto...as Hinojosa Cantu is already a multi-millionaire and wouldn’t raise many red flags. But panama papers exposed Hinojosa Cantu in his money laundering of (what a coincidence) $100 million dollars...

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  31. To the person who sent a comment about "if he was paid off how come chapo was captured twice after escaping?"

    for starters EPN wasn't president in 2001
    secondly as i have stated, chapo huge mistake was humiliating EPN on the world stage by not only successfully escaping from a prison never having anyone escape from, but by one of his tunnels. This exemplified the corruption under the administration of EPN-to the world.

    that action was all bets off and that is what got him extradited.

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    1. No way could that tunnel have been built without lots of help from inside. Did anyone ever take any heat for it?

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      It was Conrado who helped him escape not Pena? They even met in secret with his lawyer.

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    3. Chivis, I think Chapo was gonna get extradited before he escaped the 2nd time. The US would have put too much pressure on Mexico. I think EPN just didn’t care. He’s like fuck Chapo, I’m the real jefe.

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    4. For that money He practically sold Mexico to chapo and his organization so if chapo fucked up and brought heat to the organization he gets caught so the rest of them could freely roam Mexico with all their drugs and violence while working with the local federal and military forces...the us government should send troops to stop the fentanyl and meth manufacturing in Mexico and central America because all the drugs that enter the us and kill Americans come in though the Mexican border by land if they stop that drugs will still come in but very little they will save a lot of lives and Mexicans are pussys they will run they will not cause much harm

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    5. The whole dynamic between EPN and Chapo is just fascinating. Two of the most powerful men on the opposite ends of the spectrum

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    6. Solid argument Chives

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    7. 6:54 of course, a couple dozen including the warden, then a trickling of quiet releases, including the warden. If any remain in prison only 1 or 2 remain.

      yet the lowly maintenance guy chito who got the cart for chapo's escape in 2001 remains in prison for his small part.

      Mexican theater amigo

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    8. Corruption of this type has been going on in Mexico since the days of Pedro Aviles and before. Continuing with Pablo Acosta, Felix Gallardo in and Guadalajara cartel… Remember Raul Salinas
      It’s a cultural phenomenon that has been going on for longer than all of us have been alive.
      It is so deeply ingrained in the culture of Mexico and South America and even other drug trafficking and drug producing countries i.e., Asia
      You could send in every branch and division in the U.S. Military and you’re not going to stop it— another reason is the CIA and the fact that they are complicit in many of these operations in the name of national security and gaining intell
      So let’s not act like this is new El Chapo is just the latest in a long list of drug kingpins in Mexico who the government has supported via their plaza system, Yet when the government becomes upset, angry, or embarrassed due to their actions— then all bets are off and They simply take steps to extradite them, kill them or put them in prison

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    9. 719 conrado sol from the chapo series??? 😂😂😂😂😂 lmao how old r u kid?? 12?? 13??? Lmao do some research first

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  32. Surprise surprise 😒

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  33. 100 million??? Sorry but I believe it. Mexico is known for being corrupt

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  34. 100 mil down the drain

    M”

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  35. The mexican president is shady as f&#k

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  36. Politicians in Mexico have more arms then a octopus and there pocketing illegal money with each one.

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  37. Can you imagine if the other cartel bosses (CDN, CJNG, etc) were paying him as well?

    I imagine they were, or are, no?

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  38. Epn has immunity its part of the retirement package what he doesnt have is protection there is a differnace what to do he stays in mexico wind up getting killed run wind up arrested share a cell in supermax with chapo hes fucked either way

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    1. Its called living elsewhere.
      Probably on his private island raking in the cash from investment

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  39. All the people eating this story up like it's factual, just because you want something to be true doesn't means it is.

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  40. Also, if this were done it would be Chapo Mayo and a dozen of their Capos investing together in any multi million dollar package, the risk of the package not bearing fruit would be too great for just one person.

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  41. http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2014/02/phil-jordan-chapo-funded-epns-campaign.html?m=0 this was informed about four years ago

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  42. I totally believe it! How much is paid depends on who you are. I have paid cops in Mexico a few thousand pesos and some just 500 pesos to get out of stupid things including minor traffic violations. Imagine what those with any power will take!!! I could not believe my own self that lowlife federales took $2500 pesos from me & my now ex husband (Mexican) and he was yelling and swearing at the commandante about how they were crooks with badges to steal & negotiating with them on the highway near Guaymas the whole time one of them is telling me we are going to jail. What a bunch of BS. So I said if that was true I might as well have a cigarette now huh? Yeah right. Money talks and you don't need a lot of it there! So weird I believe these stories for real.

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    1. @ 8:42 pm

      And I don’t believe you for a second

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    2. Same happened to me in rocky point and morelia

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    3. 656 perhaps you should go to Mexico, and drive your own car around, perhaps visit boys town, and if you get pulled over by the police you’ll believe 842 instantly… This is happened to me and my friends on one of our many trips across the border 20-30 years ago More times than I can remember.

      I have lived near the border of Mexico for over 50 years and I’m very familiar with Mexican cops and how they treat Americans. Clearly you are not

      So sit on your couch in some comfy state in the US and troll the people who are posting actual real facts Or take a drive down to Mexico for the first time in your life and see for yourself. You’ll find it a lot different than just reading about it on the Internet. Jack ass

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    4. Yeah cause her story was so unbelievable smh

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  43. where Is OFAC when you need them???
    I hope chapo can proof this-time for epn to pay the bill.

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  44. I don’t believe Peña Nieto will take money from Natcos. A president like Peña has many other ways of making a lot more money in other ventures. Giving construction contracts to people will give him a lot more.

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    1. I know ha i still believe in santa claus too. Come on if u got $1000 in yo pocket and u see $100 on the floor u will pick them up. These mexican politicians are in the game for the sole purpose of get rich or die trying cuh

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  45. Remember when EPN was told el chapo escaped http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2015/09/penas-reaction-when-hearing-of-el.html?m=0

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  46. Calderon got offered 20 mil dollars per month by la familia Michoacána and he turned it down. Wonder why

    M”

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    1. He didn't turn it down actually, if you refer the 2010 Dec LFM-POLICE shootout

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      How do you know ?

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    3. 11:23 PM He never turned it down. He got the money all he had to do was finish off half of La Familia Michaocana so Nazario, La Tuta, Kike, and a few others could have the whole cake instead of half.

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    4. Sorry I mean 20 mil pesos (not dollars)

      M”

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    5. EPN never had money before he went into government, his family is not rich. So one can assume that all of his wealth is from donations for favours!! all generated in DF, I believe that he had some position during the time the cartels controlled the main airport in mexico city

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    6. La familia michoacana was getting pretty big and powerful but Calderon put a stop to that. I bet chapo got nervous and paid Calderon to arrest the capos from michoacan.. you already know that's how cds rolls.. they just forgot about 1 guy that is biting them in the rump and took their most lucrative plazas. Tijuana, colina, jalisco, baha California and a few more. Wonder if he will go out blasting or snitching like the sinaloas.. I doubt he will fold like vicentillo and chapo

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  47. All government gets a piece of that dirty money but you never hear about them getting jail time or getting busted

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  48. I don't think the President would risk this when he is already rich.

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    1. Greed knows no bounds

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    2. Then sadly u dont know the history of Mexico and her presidents.

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  49. If he paid $100 million to peña, wonder how much these americans got paid. Los gringos nunca la queman la mayoria son macisos.
    El chubidu

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  50. Pena N left office with dirty hands.

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  51. i remember seeing on one of chapos son's instagram post something saying that somebody within the mexican govt fucked up and they were going to pay for it my guess was chapo crossed peña nieto maybe so his ass got extradited now all this is coming to light

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    1. Not Pena Neito, he looked the other way, since he got 100 million from Chapo, read your info.

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    2. All of those profiles are fake. It's been confirmed several times.

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  52. For a 100 million chapo shld of been running los pinos. If he did pay he nieto shld be killed for not providing any protection. This prooves the most crooked are the "legit" politicians.

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  53. Mr. Peña Nieto needs to be extradited to America. Where they can lock him up for life.

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  54. Chapo get your family to get you a refund. This is one case that nieto shld be hit to make a point. So politicians will refuse the money or take it but if you take it deliver or there will be consequences and repercussions like eddie murphy in life.

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