Tuesday, May 5, 2015

Latest Account by feds: 2 RPG fired on 2 Aircraft, 6 killed in crash, including 3 missing soldiers

Lucio R for Borderland Beat- material SEGOB


According to the government, the military Cougar helicopter gunned down last Friday  in the municipality of Villa Purification in Jalisco, was fired on by two RPG’s rocket launchers and was hit by two projectiles. 

A total of six were fired at the aircraft.  This was reported by the Monte Alejandro Rubido, national security chief and confirmed by the general of the federal police of Mexico Enrique Galindo.

.They both now admit there was not an “emergency landing”, but the aircraft went down and crashed in flames.  Rubio says there were 4 aircraft in the air and CJNG shot down one, “proving their skill, or maybe just good luck.” 

Further stating the missing 3 soldiers actually were in the aircraft and completely incinerated.

Rubio rays DNA studies were conducted and are complete.  Even after supposedly finding remains and sending them out for testing, a massive search for the three was in full force.

It took 4 days to admit the aircraft crashed and not landed.  They have consistently reported 18 military and police on board the aircraft, of those 3 were killed, 3 missing and the remainder injured. 

How is it that a plane crash in flames, 12 survived and 3 incinerated so badly it was unknown that they were still in the aircraft?  Remember 12 survived, are they no capable of reporting what transpired with the 3 previously reported “missing?"  Call me cynical, but this is illogical.  

But I could be judging the feds unfairly?  After all yesterday President Peña promised a new dawn of transparency when he signed the transparency bill. 
SEGOB says these detainees are the culprits of a total of 10 attacks on Friday in  Various points of Jalisco

RPG7 In the video directly below


The reports of yesterday from Rubio was that there may have been “2” of the missing soldiers in the plane, or maybe “they ran off and are hiding”. (I swear to you the man said this)

As for the RPG, both were Russian made, one a RPG7 the other RPG22.  Reforma is reporting that two aircraft were fired on; the second aircraft was not hit. A total of nine projectiles were fired.  Of the narco convoy vehicles, at least 2 were confirmed armored, and a Ford F150 was equipped with a steel mount and a machine gun.

In one of the trucks uniforms were found.  They were camouflage with emblems that read ”CJNG High Command Special Forces".

As rumored yesterday and reported on BB, soldiers on the other aircraft saw the convoy stop, armed men exit the vehicles and position themselves for attack.  This was confirmed by Rubio today.

No images of the crash has been shared with the public.

And lastly, above are the bad guys who caused all the mayhem, they are in custody says SEGOB.


100 comments:

  1. These guys that were captured ,pictured above are not part of the ”CJNG High Command Special Forces"

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    1. Lmao High command special forces there high as Hell off the Heisenberg so I'm pretty sure there part of that high command special forces.

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    2. They don't have what it takes to fire wepons and be so effective come on guys anyone in the military should know this hope mexico can clean up all this mess

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    3. yeah, and really hard to believe that group in the photo could do ALL the mayhem as the article tries to make us believe... " the bad guys who caused all the mayhem," says the article. must have been a real challenge. I am surprised none is named speedy gonzalez.

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    4. The " high Command" got away these detainees are probably street trash mofos that the Gov. needed to try to save face. They look all cracked or methed out. Ugg- Mugg Mofos

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    5. Peńa nieto just texted me and told me he plans to release these ungrateful bastards later on this week just like the rest of the criminals he lets go.

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  2. I'm the Devil and I'm here to do the Devil’s work. Uncle Acid & The Deadbeats

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  3. Lol them detainees dont look like they can use a sling shot ler alon a rpg

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    1. There is three that look capable of a thing or two. Other than that your right haha.

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  4. Luego luego se nota que agarran al primer pendejo que se encuentran

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    1. AgarrAn a puro vagamundo de perdidA van a tener komida y techo para dormir a k mis federales tan idiotas asi andan aka en Juarez

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  5. Oh No! Tom Brady moonlights as a sicario with a mean looking tan, along with his sidekick, crazy eyes Carlos!

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    1. LMAAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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  6. Why they all look like they're tweaking on Heisenberg blue?

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    1. Cause they are tweekers. Look at their faces. Not a hint of emotion. Just emtpy voids off addiction and carnage.

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    2. ... Probably Because They Are The Fall Guys That Just Lit Fires And Were Not Even Part Of The Helicopter Incident ... Bottom Of The Image Says That Thet Were Part Of 10 Attacks On Friday In Various Points Of Jalisco ... Pure Bullsh!t ...

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    3. ''Just emtpy voids off addiction and carnage''
      Succinct and descriptive observation dude.Somewhat sad to see,but,their actions cannot be tolerated,these are the throwaways who will do almost anything told to by their jefes

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  7. These are the soliders all you narco nuthuggers keep talking about? lololol. See kids...this is what happens when you listen too many narcocorridos and don't stay in school. You end up looking like a loveless flesh eating tweaker zombie.

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    1. Sodiers, honey, mexican soldiers that kill murder, maim or disappear for their president and his party

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  8. These dirtballs they arrested look like pure crack and meth fiends. Don't know if they could have handled too much they don't look like elite hitmen/bitches. More like huffers and tweakers.

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  9. Elections are around the way, this is PRI causing havoc to deter and scare the citizens. Mencho is just another instrument of PRI. People open your eyes the biggest mafia bosses are the people of PRI. They say who goes and who stays. Chapo and Mayo the same they are just instruments. The main capo in Mexico is Salinas de Gortari. Poor people who believe these goons are the monsters of society when in reality its the Government and the U.S knows about it.


    G(-)057

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    1. PRI Held power in its hands for 71 years'' la dictadura perfecta''
      Can we even begin to imagine the political graft and degradation through all those years..

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  10. Yeah they are special all right. Inbreed special. I thought these CJNG fellows were suppose to be highly trained. If they are the High Command Special Forces then CJNG is truly doomed.

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  11. I don't believe these scrubs pulled this off no way in hell.
    Release the videos of the crash
    That will never happen it would expose even more lies
    Maybe Mencho burned to a crisp ha ja ha ja
    He might be a given a free fake death out of this one

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    1. These aren't scrubs... They may not look it but they have training, money and the guns to pull this off.

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    2. I agree. Look at the "soldiers" in other war torn countries. They are usually children. Give them a gun and look at the mayhem they can cause.

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  12. Ya valieron shit estos narcos. That's why they don't last long in power, becouse v they want to act all big and bad. Why is it so hard for them to just lay low and make TONS on money?? Pendejos man..

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  13. Four aircrafts.
    One gets taken down, three are good to go, and the sicarios CONVOY still survives!
    Are these helicopters armed with at least 50 calibers?
    It would be too much to ask for small missiles. Let's sell the Mexican Government a couple of good ole Warthogs.
    Or, were they concerned about "human rights"?
    Talk about keystone cops.

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  14. Lol, pinche govt, they take some homeless and addicts saying that they know war tactics?? LoLLmf

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  15. They don't need to fire 6 rpgs, with the first one is sufficient to bring the chopper down.

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    1. It is not that easy to hit a chopper with an RPG. Have you ever been around RPGs when they are fired? Mostly they are designed for tanks and bunkers.

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    2. Probably they were not rpg, what about 50 cal.

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    3. Stinger. Simple .it follows the heat of the engine on aircraft....is like a Rpg but once is up on the air, it seeks....everyone says no is not but do you beleive mexican government?? I'm telling you but time will tell...

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    4. yes trust me it is hard when i shoot a rpg and cant hit a chopper or any helicopter trust me i have alot of experience in battle and it is still hard for me that is why i prefer a stinger i have experience alot of experience in battlefield 3 and battlefield 4. lol

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  16. Bet the next time three fighter jets with rockets start haunting in the tail of the helicopters. And don't bother yelling Mexico hasn't jets or rockets. They were used extensively in the EZLN uprising twenty years ago.

    There are going to be far fewer CJNG taken alive over this. They will all resist even with their hands and feet tied. It's gonna get uglier.

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    1. Look you don't know anything the cjng has unlimited budget...a few stingers (chinese copies) and a lot of down helicopters.....they have $$$, so mexican government better take care of business....plata o stingers....

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  17. from what source is this statement from the article made: " the bad guys who caused all the mayhem," ??

    those guys caused ALL the mayhem?? that seems to be a magic like accomplishment considering all of the territory involved and how little time it took.

    you really mean that group of guys shown here did ALL of that?? that is absolutely amazing. they should be working for the government.

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    1. Lucio was being facetious, he in no way believes the government. read the article.

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    2. Chives did mencho get arrested yes or no

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    3. I think it was safe to say no by Sunday evening. But the authorities have not said one way or the other. That is the way of EPN admin. They obviously know everyone is waiting and they would 'appear' to be confidant and considerate towards their constituents if they would at the earliest opportunity to affirm or deny.

      That aside they were left looking so inept against CJNG, they were not prepared as well as the cartel and Mencho has once again slithered away.

      IMO federal and state forces conducting a joint operation was a mistake. federal elements should not have included Jal elements in any part of the operation. Mencho is the most careful successful strategist I have ever seen. His alliances with both state and federal police is well known, in Gro, and JalMich. Ditto for his grip on buinesses and municipalities. for EPN effort to have success it will come down to one of two things happening, curb corruption by rotating teams of fed forces (to rotate duty in short stints in one locale, permanently stationed in Jal, take over municipalities, temporarily and conduct all police duties, but vet all police. This will result in mass firings as in Ver.

      they were not ready for an operation. They are capable, and have the resources, they are miserably planned, leaving much to chance, As Lucio says the intelligence was badly flawed.

      On the other hand, Mencho is always prepared. To lock down 39 major points of travel in such a short time takes carefully planning. and there scores of diversion attacks throughout the region was good intelligence.

      He won again. But he is not Superman. Superman does not exist, he can be captured, but unless federal forces controls corruption, the corruption Mencho relies on to keep him secure it will mean nothing just another win in the game of catch the capo, they always make us feel so good until we wake up and realize little changed because there was no check mate.

      the secondary method of catching the capo is LUCK. as in follow the chocolate birthday cake that led authorities to La Tuta.

      Paz


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    4. chiiiiiivas, excellent comment. I agree but would say that municipalities should be taken over as well. Oh wait that is what autodefensas were doing. before caca Castillo your evil lowless came in.

      by the way is it true what lucio reports that they want to establish a federal security commission like they did in mich with Castillo?

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    5. Hey chivis what about los cuinis brothers not just the one got arrested that aperrentlly was the richest drug lord according to dea officials but his brothers they still out there i may say they went back to their home state michoacan along with mencho whom is also from michoacan

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  18. I love all these comments from people who have never seen any combat or results from combat. Helicopter crashes can be very unpredictable. I have seen CH-46 crashes (the Marines used them in VN) with all kinds of mixed results. If they blow up, it is worse since CH-46s are not easy to get out of. Hueys are a lot different. People fall out of those. Crew members (including door gunners) in Hueys are strapped in while passengers are not and passengers fall out while those strapped in stay in. You can have a range of injuries and several burned to a crisp. Even if a chopper just falls from tree top level with no fuel left on board (which I have watched) the passengers can be badly injured, with all sorts of broken parts. And to be shot from below while riding in a chopper is not a good thing. It generally goes in below and comes out above.

    The Marines flew at least two CH-46s together, even for medevacs, with one providing cover from above and the other with an M-60 at the side port and one on the ramp. They still got shot down. I doubt these carried machine guns.

    I'm skeptical that Lucio R. has the expertise to make any viable judgement calls about this sort of thing. And I don't recall that they said these captured people were the ones on the convoy, but were involved in starting the fires.

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    1. ... Correct, They Were Fire Starters And Not Part Of The RPG Downing ... Not Professionals

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  19. So sick of cjng...big war in sonora..loe memos vs ls salazar...whats the latest? And who's winning?

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    1. Big war in Acuña Coahuila too

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    2. Who is with los memos?

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    3. Aren't los memos that group that switched from cds to BLO in the choix area ? Somebody clarify ?

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    4. Not sure, thought both factions belonged to cds. I know alot of bad press has been reported about los memos in local papers through out nothern sonora, might be propaganda cause los salazar are trying to control sonora.

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  20. I bet you it was the female Maria Carolina Vega who launched the RPG she looks like she has more sense.

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  21. Today is may 5th and nobody seems to care in Mexico, what happens? Not even google is celebrating it!!

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    1. They celebrated it Sunday with all that mess going on. No one is motivated. Probably to scared to leave their homes.

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    2. Cuz its a gringo pitty party for the Mexicans they have stolen land from.

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    3. 7:59pm
      Lol, 5 de Mayo is no big deal in Mexico. It's a curiosity that it is in the USA since the 70s when beer companies began a campaign to boost it to sell more product.

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    4. they don't celebrate it, only in tourists places where americans frequent. the holdiday is not a big day, it was Labor Day in Mexico last Friday and so for that it was a holiday weekend.

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    5. Cinco de Mayo is not a Mexican holiday no more its Universal we all celebrate it.

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    6. General Ignacio Zaragoza beat the crap out of the french army, generals Jesus Gonzalez Ortega and Porfirio Diaz also distinguished themselves on that 5 de mayo that the US celebrates... the US does not celebrate Pancho Villa and the ass kickings he gave.them, or the mexican revolution, somebody may start working at doing it again, or the Battle of Angostura where the mexicans kicked US ass again to the music of A Degüello...that's all state secrets...
      "Transparency" epn style...get it out before Carmen Aristegui does!!!
      Pinchis panochos le sacan con la Carmencita...

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  22. El Presidente Pene Nieto you are un gran pedazo de mierda,es lo peor que le pudo pasar a mexico.....you have blood on your hands you stinkin cucaracha but one day you will pay for allowing the garbage that has destroyed MEXICO and the dreams of millions of hard working honest MEXICANOS....

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    1. Hey, mas respeto para el hijo de su puta madre, peña nieto!
      Yeah, I didn't think so...

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  23. The detained don't look so tough. They actually look like they all do more drugs than they try to traffic. Guess if you gave a crackhead a gun and hyped them up enough, it would be a bit scary. .

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  24. One problem I see with all this is apeople wanting immediate answers and accounts on what happened, and officials trying to provide them with that. It usually take some time to get totals find missing if there are any and just to simply account for all persons. With criminal organizations running around all over the areas this has happened, I would find it impossible to have accuracy at this point. DNA takes a bit to receive. Everyone is criticizing for not having same day or next day answers. Most countries give it a few days but alert the public of what action they are taking to get the answers. I know there are some bad eggs in their government, but I commend these guys for even attempting to answer questions so soon after an event when it only causes these constant changes we are seeing.

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    1. nice try but you are using ;logic the numbers have changed from Friday until today and doubled in criminal deaths in 4 hrs on sunday night. it has nothing to do with getting it right it was getting the fairy tale right

      we are speaking of the helicopter. many survived they would have know if 3 were taken.

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    2. the Numbers of dead went 3-5-4-6 in that sequence. I guess one was revived then died again.

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    3. The truth is easy to report. Cover-ups take more time

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    4. In any operation one of the first things you do is a head count before and after engaging the enemy. Within the ranks this is held in secrecy. The last thing you want is for civilians to know your actual force number. El Soldado Perdido

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  25. been a long time since anyone's used an rpg against federales

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    1. Templarios did against a bus full of unarmed federales when replacing personal.in apatzingan michoacan most of them died but you did not see this on the news.

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    2. ofcourse you will not see the truth in the news... the mexican government has a reputation if they were to say the truth of how many government officials have been killed(which I thinks its in the thousands) the cartels would gain much more influence and power yust for that. this is kind of a hands-on warfare with psychological-warfare as well. we are going back to pancho villa days and this time its going down hard. saludos raza aki andamos ;)

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  26. ”CJNG High Command Special Forces". Ha Ha !!! That Is SO SO SO FUNNY !!! none of these stinky 10 days without a chower rats look like they could even shoot a gun

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  27. Those guys look like some straight up ice heads

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    1. @ 12:26..Sure enough, "ice heads" and lice heads. They look like some real professionals, LMFAO!!. I don't think they could take down a paper airplane, let alone, a helicopter in mid flight.They should all be the poster people for ice. Those pics alone, could scare people away from ever trying drugs!

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    2. Ok...and we are supposed to believe what part of this story? Seems EPN's transparency bill is already in the works! That's almost as funny, as when he had himself investigated!!

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  28. According to mexican news the mexican autorities siezed 10 rpgs and 2 laws and some armor trucks one with a 50 cal machine gun mounted on it.

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    1. it was 2 armor trucks
      and I heard Rubio say there were 8 RPGs most were "&" but a couple were "22". isn't the 22 a better weapon for downing low altitude aircraft? but it is one shot only, right?

      I did not hear anything about 50 cal but I am sure there was at least one. the truck had a steel cage with a machine gun. isn;t the barrett a semi automactic? I could not find the photo of the gun mounted.

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    2. The Barrett is a 50cal. And it's the one the US uses in their humvees for the marines.

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  29. The female launched that RPG she looks like she has plenty of sense.

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  30. In one of two videos u can see two guys on is wearing agreen colored military undershirt,, and its not this fools.. the one on the video looks like he works out he has some bi as arms ,, its not one of this fools

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  31. It's the same thing with cockroaches. When you turn the lights on, the big experienced ones race back under the fridge. The little ones stray too far from safety or don't know what to do. They are the ones that get squished. That lineup is the squished ones.

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    1. You need to clean up your house. Nasty

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    2. It was an analogy. I live in northern Minnesota. We don't have cockroaches lol

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  32. The helicopters were bought in U$A.

    The rpgs were also bought in U$A.

    The guns were as well bought in U$A.

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    1. don't you read the articles?
      cougars helicopters are france

      the rpgs are russian

      the guns were mixed from three countires

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    2. It's all the USA's fault.. Whaaaaa.waaaaaaaaaaaaaa. We can't take control of our own country! Whaaaaaa.whaaaaaaa.

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    3. The US likes to plant weapons from other countries when they do shit like this...

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    4. @ stubborn 1:53 AM

      Most weapons come from the US but usually RPGs/ RPG Launchers are brought in from South America. Pull your head out of your ass and get some oxygen in that head of yours.

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    5. CJNG gets the majority of their weapons originating from Europe, and asia

      the cougar is from france not us, if it was a us black hawk they would not have been shot down.

      1:53 you are beyond ignorant you are plain ass stupid. ..yes the US is hiding in the bushes in a shit hole town in Jal waiting to plant weapons. yes sire that seems within the realm of possibility...yup....yup

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    6. Well, buying french cougars is not nice to american weapons merchants, some of whom commission fabrication to "offshore"...
      --Also training in france the nazional police of "general enrique galindo" who apparently keeps trying to forget his full name, enrique francisco galindo ceballos, porro, murderer of his own police commanders, zeta from the start, failed the certifications... like osorio chong...like el general negro durazo...
      --The US is full of corrupt americans and their lambeculos, and they are the root cause of all that goes wrong in the world, associated with the brittish...
      --man up if you want to defend them, just say: "so what", you fucking pussies...

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  33. im pretty sure the government did not catch those responsible for the helicopter crash, but as always they try to hide the sun with one finger.. those dudes were probably low level cartel workers.. the government has reputation and they cant ruin it so they HAVE to catch some one and say it was them knowing is no them,its brainfuck to the civilian people......

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  34. Wow! these dirty ass, SHORT, bazukeros are considered Fuerzas Especiales.

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  35. ... Lucio, Could You Please Add The Black Ford Truck With The Gun Mount And Other Photos From The Same Site? ... People Would Get A Better Understanding About It ... Thanks

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    1. lucio is gone until tomorrow, e said there is a photo of a truck but after the feds dismantled the gun so he did not want to ass to confusion. segob said there was a machine gun (the general) if you can send me a link to the foto so I can take a look?

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    2. The chopper has not even cooled down and the crooks, I mean epn's defense department are dismantling evidence?
      Like planting bodies is not good enough...

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  36. So apparently the soldier death count from the downed helicopter has gone up to 7. The SEDENA has said. I'm starting to feel maybe more died but the government as always tries to bring the toll down.

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    1. yeah, lucio wrote an artile and has the fotos of the helicopter or what remains of it, but he was frustrated because the Mexican Math game was in full force, numbers, tallies are all over the place so he did not post it.

      I hope he will tomorrow. He is travelling on business this week with little extra time

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    2. lucio said I can post what I want....so I will post some of what he has for the crash fotos

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  37. Chale,no cabe duda que por eso 'tamos como estamos,esos pinches aprendices de malandrin mas que sicarios parecen pinches pepenadores,traga chiles y arranca zacate,mirenles la cara,pos' que el Cartel no les paga ni para tragar?? Pinches desnutridos...

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  38. Meth users do not need to tragar, and they will work looong hours without food and water, usually doing excellent work, just to get enough for the next hit, WHY do you think helping them with lowly paid jobs is so important to the US?

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  39. BULLSHIT, the guy on the top row on the very right is not nicknamed El Flaco, the guys name is el tiburcio

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