Friday, May 22, 2015

Federal Police in Tanhuato Michoacán 43 Sicarios killed 3 FP

Lucio R. Borderland Beat  Material from Michoacán 3.0, Reforma, Reuters, Face Book-Ferrez TV



From Quadratin: 43 gunmen  and only 3 federal element killed  6 incinerated vehicles....Heavy artillery was found at the ranch, including anti-aircraft, 50. Cal and grenade launchers)

Although authorities have not released official figures on the number of dead and wounded in the clash that occurred Friday morning in Tanhuato, Michoacán, unofficially speaking of between 15 and 43 dead.
          
Around 9:30 this morning a Federal Police convoy was attacked along the toll road leading from D.F. to Guadalajara.

This morning a shootout between members of the Federal Police and suspected members of CJNG  was recorded on 371 km leading to Tinaja de Vargas on Ecuandureo-Tanhuato road.


Early reports spoke of two dead and one injured federal police, but through social networks citizens have reported that the figure is between 15 and 43 people, including civilians and members of the Federal Police.





The arrest of five suspects is also reported, while the number of wounded is unknown.

Tanhuato is within the limits of JalMich (Michoacán and Jalisco).

Sources in the Interior Ministry, said that at 16:00 will be a press conference to give details.

Tanhuato Mayor, Jose Ignacio Cuevas Perez said in an interview with Radio Formula that elements of the Federal Police arrived at the Tinaja de Vargas community, when they were allegedly attacked and fired upon by  civilians.  Efe reports the FP were there to serve arrest warrants on organized crime members.


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Pepe’s report:

CJNG - 40+ Killed in Narco/PF Clash on Mich./Jalisco Border 

What supposedly happened:

"It was around 8:30 in the morning, when, according to the latest reports, Federal Police saw a
heavily armed convoy leaving Rancho El Sol, on the highway between Ecuandureo-Tanhuato, at kilometer 370, very close to the pueblo of Tinaja de Vargas, located within Ecuandureo.

At that moment, the federal police ordered the convoy to stop, and the convoy opened fire, which led to a 30 minute gun battle.

Immediately after this, elements of the Mexican Army, Federal Police and Fuerza Cuidadana entered Rancho El Sol, where they encountered another group of heavily armed civilians."

As we saw in the first post, this Ranch was apparently burned to the ground. In fotos and videos you can see the smoke from the fire off the main highway.

Needless to say, a very imbalanced casualty figure.  We might be looking at more "extra-judicial" killings by Mexican security forces.  


143 comments:

  1. Murder Death Kill Murder Death Kill Murder Death Kill Murder Death Kill Murder Death Kill.......with all this carnage in Jalisco don't be surprised when EPN does the unthinkable. Use your imagination BB nation.

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  2. Its war for them

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  3. MICHOACAAAAAAAAAAAAANOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSS!

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    1. Puro Sinaloa loco

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    2. Estas mencho ?

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    3. Se les cayeron los huevos a los michoacanos lol

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    4. Na murieron con artos huevos,kien sabe si tu mueras llorando

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    5. Murieron artos de plomo mas bien.

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    6. Hartos=muchos, llenos, hasta el tope...full to the rim...
      Atentamente the grammar police

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  4. We know whose wining

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  5. The dudes that are dead don't seem to have any weapons.. where are they?

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    1. I Have no idea we have to wait and see

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    2. Maybe the cops picked them (the weapons) up so they didnt get shot by them.

      It is quite a stretch to suggest this was a case of "extra-judicial" killings.

      Question: Were the narcos based at this ranch, or did they attack it and burn it, (like they have so many others), and then the cops caught them as they were leaving?

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    3. If there's no weapons next to them that means they were real criminals cause if they were innocents getting killed the feds would lay weapons down next to the bodies to make it look real.

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    4. That's why they're dead

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  6. Why isn't the government reporting losses on there side ?? There's lots of dead people from both sides!!

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    1. I think the Mexican government hides figures of losses they have from their side.

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    2. Really todavia quieres mas ningun cartel los habia hecho ver tan pendejos como cjng si muchos an matando soldados o marinos pero no fuerzas especiales al menos no un grupo tan grande oficialmente 8-9 gente de la region dice que mas de veinte y como seis sicarios los diferencian por la ropas

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    3. Yes they do in reality they lost lots of federales again but can't afford to bring that to light if not it would another lost for the government of Mexico not good for their image

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  7. I follow with interest happenings in Mexico from here. May God give you peace in your country friends.
    Greetings from Nigeria.

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    1. Nice sentiment Kayode,greetings to you in Nigeria

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  8. Nachos son Mencho is a deadly SOB

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    1. Hes not even related to nacho wth?

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    2. Called sarcasm

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    3. La escuela se aprende no se hereda

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  9. almost all of the dead were criminals

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    1. Better training better weapons better equipment battery back up.

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  10. Good one, next battle the government should use drones. Don't take any prisoners if the criminals start shooting.

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  11. Governor of Michoacan said 43 dead: 42 civilians and 1 military guy. That sounds like a US operation where 40-80 bad guys get killed for every US soldier they get. somethings fishy, or the mexican military is getting better.

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  12. Now i want to see on the next ambush how many federales are going to die i estimate 30

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  13. heard 40 bad guys died

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  14. Not playing by the Mexican Government rules. CJNG will soon be just another disorganized gang selling baggies of dope in Mexico for a fraction of the profit of those that work with the government to move it north. They f'd up in Veracruz and have continued to prove they don't know how the business is done in Mexico.

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  15. MEXICO IS SUCH A WONDERFUL PLACE--no wonder they are all coming to the USA

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    1. Don't worry, you'll gradually start seeing less going to the USA cause more and more are getting killed. As long as they are criminals getting killed it's good.

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    2. I am sure they need to kill 40,000 wish they would start in Tamps.

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    3. @6:07 infiltration into North Amercia happens daily. Come down 2 the border and see it for yourself. As long as $ is being paid coyotes will always exist. Meanwhile keep living in your fantasy thats its going 2 someday completely stop.

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    4. Cuidado hablando asi contra Tamp. Ok? T.M.

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    5. @4:29
      --If mexico were not such a wonderful place, the US government would not be investing the american people's money behind their backs on destabilizing it for the Amerikkkan Corporate Welfare Queens whose greed is really out of bounds to steal...
      -- poor mexicans do not move the world, corrupt mexican politicians bought and paid for, do not move the world...
      --It is all pirate vulture capitalism behind all the troubles, and their gorillas...

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  16. Actually it was thr oder way around federales attacked cjng they say the local narco chief was killed or captured.

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    1. we are going with Reforma's latest report 15 min ago.
      waiting for official account. most say CJNG ambushed although I agree it makes more sense the other way around.

      where are you getting your info from?

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    2. I have a question. If chivis can answer it that would be great. We all know that america and europe are big buyers in drugs and thats how the cartels make their money. But what doesnt make sense is how do they saty rich if their supplies are being raided by police and most of it never makes it to the buyer. Aside from extortion and robbery in means of getting money does anyone in mexico buy drugs like crazy like they do in america in order to make the cartels rich or is it just purely american and europeans making cartels rich???

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    3. we are going with Reforma's latest report 15 min ago.
      waiting for official account. most say CJNG ambushed although I agree it makes more sense the other way around.

      where are you getting your info from?

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    4. Mexican drug use is fueled by the lower members of cartels getting paid in species, they eat it or sell it, and they have to sell it gram by gram to make the pesos to live and pay the police and military and their plaza owners, the squeeze causes all the problems, but who cares? It is not like the gramero union is going to get in the middle...
      --it is like it all over the world, farmers, workers, producers, do not get paid what the work is worth, the middle men get better pay, but about 90% belongs to the big business that trade it all, control prices, own the banks, decide on where war gets done, where and how money gets laundered and invested, etc etc etc, and none of it is up to no poor people in the world...

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  17. Weird, this area (thanhuato and the sorounding areas) are not controlled by controlled by cdjng.

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    1. @ 4:36 PM
      I was thinking, if the numbers are correct (42 CJNG dead, 1 PF dead) then could it possibly be a massacre of Autodefensas by the Federal Police? Isn't Tanhuato where Autodefensa leader Enrique Hernandez was assassinated?

      Thoughts anyone? It sounds crazy but this Mexican government does the unthinkable

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    2. CJNG has a strong presence there, search of the new cjng map of mich they are in that entire jalisco-mich border cities this is relatively new of the last year

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  18. Can anyone upload a video of the shootout?

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  19. it's war! CJNG vs Government, who will win? will CJNG retaliate with a higher body count against the government? find out next time on Dragon Ball Z!

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  20. Ahora si michuacanos aver si como ladran muerden CJNG ya esta en sus tierras vayan buscando su huevos aver si los encuentran puro jalisco no hay mas orgulloso tapatio

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    1. Si el jefe de CJNG es de michoacan jajaja

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    2. Tas bien pendejo. Major callate el puto osico. CJNG es puro Michoacano

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    3. No mas por q el jefe sea de michoacan no se enifica que todos son de ay el Mencho enpeso en Jalisco y la mayoria son jaliskillos y michiacanos undios jamas seran bensidos yo tengo primos q son de cj y son 100% jalisiences y ademas miren el nimble que usan tambien tienen gente de guerrero de Colima Sinaloa y muchos mas Asi que que importa!

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    4. Es todo jalisco michoacan colima y guerrero el cartel nueva generacion

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  21. "#Tanhuato al ataque fue por parte del CJNG, se presume que se abatió al jefe de plaza de LA BARCA , Jalisco , alias el BAYO ." - @ValorMichoacan on Twitter

    It doesn't make sense that 42 CJNG sicarios would be dead and only 1 Federal dead if the police were ambushed. The FP death toll must be much higher.

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  22. You can tell that AR was planted on that dude with the red shirt.. The position of his body with the way the rifle is laying there just dont add up

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    1. All of a sudden

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    2. So you have seen a lot of people KIA in combat after a battle? I have; looks natural to me.

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  23. Idk if i'm against extra judicial killings but man do those guys have no respect for life.

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  24. The battle and the war on drugs will never be won. The cartels have so many people who will die for them. And many who will replace those who die..... Asi Es la Vida....

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    1. You right, that is why Mexico will never be a safe place again

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  25. The numbers dont add up there should be more federal police killed. Im suspecting extrajudicial killings on the federal police part . Is this a revenge killings on CJNG because of the failed Operation Jalisco operation that resulted in the downed chopper?

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    1. Ever seen an ambush where things don't go right?

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    2. Everything about the Mexican Federal Police is fishy. Never trust what they say because the truth is never told. Kill a bunch of males, plant weapons on them, say you were ambushed by CJNG. Yeah right!!!

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    3. Has Hillary says "What does it Matter" Ha Ja Ja

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    4. It does matter because next time it could be you and your compadres on a rancho getting f***ked up by the Federales.

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    5. o f **** d por CJNG . cual prefieres?

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  26. Michoacan is where they have killed most of the federales

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  27. I apologize I keep commenting!

    Okay so Enrique Hernandez is from Yurecuaro. I know now.

    Now my question was how is it an ambush if the firefight took place at a ranch with flat land surrounding the area. The federal police knew where to go. They would have seen any movement by CJNG going on.

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    1. Comment all you like dude,you add to conversation,and the points you make are valid

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  28. Definitely sounds strange,wonder if CJNG were ambushed at the rancho?CJNG got no love from authorities now,its kill or be killed on sight its goin off everytime they are spotted and they know it.More to come on this one?

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  29. Just call it payback for having shot a helicopter down.

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  30. La platica por ay es que se tumbaron al bayo y que son unos 20 federales muertos

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  31. Cjng had to wait until z40 captured before they start big shit. Pussies.

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  32. Alas we may never know what actually happened. It was remote. The press and civilians are terrified to report facts. The PF will offer one version, sicarios the other. Unlike the PJF of old the new cops at least don't come around demanding piso. Can't say the same for sicarios. I shake my head at the pendejos who support los malos. It is obvious they do not live here in Mexico. I can hope for the day soldados turn in coronels and generales for corrupcion.

    And the gringos do nothing to intercept bloques de billetes going south. Gringos do nothing to search cargo containers. That is where most of the drugs are going north and most of the dlls are coming south.

    Tell me this old wise ones.....

    Mil de millones de dlls come to Mexico. How is it possible traylores de cargos de efectivo get washed? Where do the dlls go? Who has toneladas de pesos to pay? Something is very wrong and this business cannot be anything but oficialy sancionned at the highest levels of gobernacion.

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    1. Most of the billions of dollars never come back to mexico, about 90% of it is surplus earnings, and get laundered and offshored to the cayman islands, panama, virgin islands, switzerland, england, china...to reinvest as clean profit all over the world...
      --Why do you think LatinAmerica is so poor after all the drug trafficking over the last 70 years?
      -- Why do you think the rich countries are so rich, pay their people higher salaries, get vacations and vacation houses, cars, properties, retirement funds, savings, weapons, modern armament, and all the accoutrements of money?
      -- They do not get it the old way, they steal all of it, from all the poor that still get sold down the river...
      --the myth of the rich latin american drug traffickers is just that, a myth while useful...

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  33. Yup, every photo I have seen the guns look planted. and casings missing, should be a massive amount. In Iguala there was over 1000 after the second round of gun attack.

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    1. Hi chivis, can i get your input on the zetas cartel, why we don't hear anymore from them. we hear of CDG alot but we haven't heard from the zetas nothing at all. are they loosing territory? are they winning? no shootouts with rivals or captured zetas lately. thank you very much chivis.

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    2. Hi, chivis, "iddede" a chance that because there are no big news about the setas youses are reporting the big news, shootout, murders, and appearances of manipulation and official sanctioned murders of innocent in here, Tanhuato?

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  34. OK now is Guerrero cartel and 1st it was Jalisco's make up you're mind jokers

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  35. Do you think they were firing on autodefensas Chivis? Would the ADs have control of that ranch?

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    1. No I don't. But the government is now saying they only found 10 bodies. we will never know the truth.

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  36. El ranching de don bayo fue enboscado por los pepos vamos con todo y por todos cisimos fuego fuego vamos atenerr

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  37. This is all so ridiculous. Constant war. "I have to sell drugs" Also using dope addicts as your front line defense. Real smart. This cartel is on their way out like all the other ones. Constant mistakes. On previous post many mentioned how well informed this "Mencho" dude is. Guess he missed this phone call! Just way too many criminals swarming around in that country. When they catch or kill him, a new one will surface. Also to the person saying "Where are the weapons?", I saw weapons. And not your ordinary handgun either.

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    1. W u talking about? Cjng ambushed federal police they killed lots of them..you will see.

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    2. 8:24 Like I said they will be dismantled. Where did you read an ambush By CJNG? The next post clearly states the frontline dope addicts were killed. Put those pom poms away and save them for the next criminal culprit. Mencho has far too many mistakes and drawing way to much attention to exceed. Time for the NSA to work their magiic again. Like they did with all the otherleaders.

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    3. 11:33 Mencho Wants You!!!
      He knows he needs a strategist to tell him what to do, when to do it, who to do it with, and to whom, where and, well, you seem to be the answer to his prayers...
      --Good luck, enjoy the prime steaks or the maruchan...

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  38. ... Lack Of Weapons, Pillows And Blankets Everywhere As If They Were Sleeping, Bodies Look Placed, Goverment Assasination Of Criminals? ... All Government Agencies, Police, Army, Navy, Who Go After Criminals In Mexico Should Have To Wear GoPro Video Cameras Or Similar So We Can Start To Believe Mr. Peña Niéto / Mexican Government ... Between The 43 Students And These People, That's Nearly 100 People Executed/Killed By The Government In Only 2 Incidents ... Show Us Video/Pictures Time Stamped Before You (Mexican Govt.) Alter/Modify The Crime Scene ...

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    1. They should do the same to the cops in the US.

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    2. There were embedded reporters with cameras on iraq and afghanistan, they could not keep track of all the criminal activities of the american military or its private contractors, what makes you think the mexican soldiers would make it work?

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  39. Why do most of them have their shoes missing?

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    1. Apparently they got caught sleeping. Remember criminals can't sleep well at night looking over their shoulders or somerimes they party hard all night and get up late.

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    2. oh yes, they sure look as though they were partying.
      it was 10am btw

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  40. Disagree about the AR15 being planted. it looks like the guy had it in his left hand and that's where he, and it, fell. My interpretation.

    Also, re blankets, if they had taken over the ranch they would have to sleep somewhere. that's what the phone tip reported - that they had taken it over.

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  41. Cant realy ambush feds from ur house,alot of dead guys by da house?

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    1. It's well shady dude,they were capped by the house trying to bail out,maybe authorities were chasing a crew on a truck,but them ambushing authorities?But,they all know what their into and what's gonna happen

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    2. "Anonymous phone tip" like the one that fingered el lazca for his apparent last meal of lead...incredible, one anonymous call had so much power, when no calls for help were attended when the ayotzinapos called, and the army was right there, but on another mission, kidnapping the calling students...

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  42. Tanhuato is a town that for years has been considered territory of the Jalisco Cartel. Tinaja de Vargas is well known to produce mean vicious killers. I do not mean that everybody in Vargas are killers but it is sure noticeable that bad ass folks come from that area. Yurecuaro is also Jalisco Cartel territory. I know for I am from those whereabouts. My folks been there since the 1840's. Last week the candidate for Mayor of Yurecuaro got it. Now so many supposedly killed criminals at the Rancho del Sol and only 1 Fed down, surely is not comprehensible. Conclusion it was a MASSACRE, blood party for the Feds against who were mostly farmworkers and ranch hands. Feds in that area are real crooked and are known to do shakedowns on anybody they wish to do so, just as long as they are the majority and you are at a disadvantage. Poor bastards who got killed, mostly hard working innocent folk, whose only crime was to be workhands in a ranch for nickels and dimes a day, if not pennies. Now when it come to the Mayor of Tanhuato, that guy is so corrupt and crooked. His gang at City Hall have done nothing but rake the $ from the town vault. Buying mansions and expensive vehicles. By doing a little research you can see ém posting pics of their "extravanganzas" on Facebook. Once again Feds had their blood bath party. Poor folks paid the tab. Shame on the Mexican government.

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    1. Thanks for the inside scoop

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  43. @9:15.... with blackhawks and Army and reinforcements called in? I could understand if it was JUST the Feds... but this was much bigger. Not saying it's impossible, just does not seem likely. Why would they kill ranch hands? For what purpose?

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    1. The mexican army already did their part murdering the Tlatlayos and kidnapping and disappearing the ayotzinapos...
      --time for the federal police to earn some credibility as assassins for epn...

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  44. The score tied up now, lets see who makes the next move to break the tie...ITS A WAR GOD DAMN IT, TAKE NO PRISONERS!!!

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  45. Shoot down a military helicopter and embarrass Mexico in front of the world and you will pay a price.

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    1. They have been embarrassed

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    2. Its sad .... But do not think the world cares or gives a rats ass . They are too busy in Cozumel / Cancun etc. partying . Too much money at risk to
      publicize . If Mexico belonged to Hitler the Nazis would still be in power .
      Nobody touches widdle Mexico

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  46. No Que muy vergas that's half of them right there .

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  47. In Estados Unidos it's not news. Maybe had they been Muslim then it would be front page. So sad to see.

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  48. Yeah sure starve your people, spit on their dignity, mock of their helplessness, nothing more embarrassing than that for Mexico and WHO will pay the price? NOBODY! Why, cuz who in tarnations cares, has been, is and always will be, any poor guys death will do... to bandage a corrupt governments "honor".

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  49. 36 semiautomatic weapons confiscated. Must be a rough "alfalfa ranch". Do all ranch hands in MX carry semis? Conspiracy theories sound pretty silly here...36 weapons, ~40 dead, it all adds up to cartel to me.

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    1. wow, I guess we should take the federal police at their word, they never plant guns, for sure, you are right, and the people know nothing.

      yup.

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    2. Do ranches typically stock 50 caliber weapons or did the feds plant that? I understand the cynicism of the gov but nobody here has presented any credible evidence that this is not a battle with CNJ. Suspicion of government fabrication is not evidence of fabrication.

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    3. Suspicion of the federal government versions of the facts, means the government is suspect once again, that the people does not believe the government, and that there are plenty of reasons for that suspicion and contempt that 80 to 90% mexicans have of their "government" imposed, bought and paid for by other cuntries ...

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  50. Keep it up fucktards . What is this 200,000 dead and missing in 10 years ? Mexico is a giant graveyard.

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  51. Fuckin mex government they think they staged it good the people ain't going to buy this shit but they will put it out there any ways there as bad as the cartels!

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  52. mex gov, punish cj by kill civ.

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  53. Ahí estan sus Michoacacas jotos del CJNG puro CDS mugrosos!

    Y Arriba Sinaloa, Jalisco y Monterrey!

    Gallito Regio

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    1. Arriba CDS y vintillo que entrego a sus hermanos ahora ahi estan el mayo trato con los gabachos pa que le traten bien a los hijos y el chapo en mexico pa que no le den visa gringa son enemigos pero no se van al cien porque se conocen tan bien que no durarian ni un mes mejor hipocritas hay chinga quedito a la verga cds puro cjng y sonora

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  54. I wonder if mexico will die, and several new countries will spring up in the future? Will USA let it happen?

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  55. Fuck most of u idiots pochos and gueros vengan y miren seguro nunca mas comentan . ingrown nail its not a big deal as long as its not yours right pendejos chingen su madre sigan creyendo the goverment reports. Mencho himself report este acontecimiento desde 400 kilometros de distancia el govierno queria un golpe grande y mencho les dio al menos un numero grande les dio cien pero los pendejos nomas mataron la mitad recuerden este paisa mencho va a se capturado " sin ningun tiro o muerto como el lazca o macho prieto"

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    1. You're right.. I looks like the goverment did this to make up for the downed helicopter and yes, I won't be surprised if these 43 were set up by both their employer and the goverment.

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  56. The people against the house... i don't see any bullet holes in the walls behind them??

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  57. Great Job! Need more of this!! Keep up the good work brothers!!

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  58. It's hard for me to believe killing of any kind is good. Whether it be of evil people or not. Other humans should not take godly actions when it comes to deciding who lives or does based on their actions. They will get their judgement when it comes time, not when we say so. I am truly heart broken over these photos. This is a very unfotunate day and my heart goes out to the family's. Evil has been committed today.

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    1. Its in our nature to kill(guys)and kill very easily,it will never end never.And i do believe some people give up their human rights by their actions,human life is not divine,not sacred,just life.

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  59. It shouldn't take 3 Hours to kill 42 people.

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  60. ... Air Support Had To Be There As The Federal Police Are Not That Good Of Shots

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  61. 42 sicarios dead versus 1 federale. Sounds to me like these sicarios, or street thugs, need to learn how to shoot their weapons. I thought these cartel sicarios were supposed to be a bunch of badasses. Sounds to me like they are only effective when they are surprisingly ambushing people or cutting heads off of these already tied up. Sad thing is, they make "chump change" compared to what the cartel bosses are pulling in. Maybe they need to spend some money on firing lessons and guerilla warfare training.

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    1. This might be yet another massacre of innocent people to accommodate the Mexican governments agenda...auto defensas maybe?? Maybe it was sicArios but why so many inconsistencies and mysterious pictures with bodies with weapons and after no weapons..guess we will never know the actual facts but only what the media would like to realease

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  62. God it looks so shitty to be a sicario.. livinglike a hobo, butwith an ak.. look at the back patio.. youcan tell thats where they had been sleeping.. get 400 a month to put your life on the line and never get anywhere but dead..ye i know tge poor in that country make the poor here in the us look rich, but still, i couldnt live like that and still have enough morale left to fight for the cartel that im there for.. maybe im too intelligent and would realize that i can be so easily desposed of, but i would end up going and killing my bosses after not too long.. atleast id have killed the right people before i die.. this is so damn senseless..

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  63. there probably all too high to shoot straight. Bunch of coked up losers.

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  64. I'm sure there was more federales dead than just one. really? 3 hour shootout from both sides and only one federal dead. think about it. plus, your talking about michoacan, the state where more federales have been killed then any other state... I smell bullshit!!!!!

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  65. Una nueva revolucion pa mi mexico chinga su madre el gobierno viva zapata y villa si va ver sangre k sea pa mejorar mi mexico

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  66. No creo que los mataron por ser santitos. Payback is a bitch called Karma. Si andas trabajando entre la mierda tarde o temprano te vas enbarrar.

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  67. The message from the gvt is give up Mencho or we will "TAKE NO PRISONERS" and destroy you.
    The gvt is probably in contact with CJNG lieutenants with that offer.
    And then you can get back to business with the understanding who is the big boss!

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  68. The evidence, photos and videos, we have been shown does not jive with some of the media descriptions (which presumably were obtained from the govt). One description referred to the "vast" ranch. 500+ acres does not make a vast ranch. There was no livestock, cattle, horses, or sheep which you would normally see on a ranch.
    500 acres does make a pretty good sized farm and the photos show fields with well tended crops. The one outbuilding shown in photos looks like a packing shed for produce. There appears to be large pieces of farm machinery nearby. The house does not appear to be burned to the ground as some reports indicated.
    The purpose of pointing out these things is to get a picture in our minds of what the scene really looked like.
    Now if you are a sicario or member of the cartel and you hear the shooting taking place up near the gate, and see the federal police descending on you, what would you do? Run across open flat farmland where the cops have a clear shot at you and there is no place to hide or hunker down inside the house and use it as a fortress?. The govt.s version of the bad guys scattering across the fields (to explain why there was no concentration of bodies or casings in one area) just doesn't ring true. Brings to mind those "guaranteed" kill hunts where a deer hunter is stationed off the side and deer are released from a pen to run across an open area in front of the hunters.

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  69. México está en ruinas debido a los cárteles y lo único que le preocupa es la policía mexicana puesta en escena de una escena con decano sicarios. Qué pasa con ustedes? Sin embargo, estos sicarios murieron es bueno para el país de México.

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