Monday, October 8, 2012

CONFIRMED:Marina Releases Statement on Lazca: Reporting he was Killed in Sabinas, Coahuila Yesterday

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat

PHOTO corpse at Sabinas Garcia funeral home
NEW VIDEO: Commando took body, says it was taken Sunday..
Superimposing old and death photos-exact jawline and eye placement etc

The owner of the Sabinas Garcia funeral notice at  8: 00 transferred the corpse
 
Similarities:Chin, eyebrows, nose even hairline.
 
A string of reports as they came in....

Bodies gone, given to relatives after autopsy:
Lazca built his "pantheon" as his final home (El Universal)
Both Acuna and Piedras are apx 1:50 min drive from Sabinas

El Universal:
Reports the conflict was at 2:30PM on Sunday.  Reporting further that the official announcement will not be released until the DNA results have concluded and confirm identity.  In the report it says that the Marina was on regular duty and patrol when meeting up with the Zetas, the Zetas began launching grenades at them and the conflict ensued.

SEMAR CONFIRMS:
The navy just issued a press release that there is strong evidence that Lazano leader of the los zetas cartel was killed yesterday. 

Proceso reports:
Lazca was in a convoy in Sabinas at 1:30PM on Sunday when one of the vehicles began launching grenades at the Marina which began the conflict that resulted in two dead narcos, one was identified as Lazca.  One sailor also was killed in the conflict.

This is what other reports say that occurred in the capture:
 

Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano, El Lazca, leader of the Zetas, is dead according to preliminary identification techniques.  SEMAR released a statement in this hour that they are waiting on final testing to give a positive confirmation, must indicated the possibility is high that it is the Z leader.
What is known is that the confrontation occurred in Juniper road to Progreso, in Coahuila, which killed two suspected members of the Los Zetas criminal organization.
During the armed conflict an element of the Marina was wounded.  The federal force took the Zetas by surprise as the cartel members  watched a baseball game.
A third Zeta manage to escape.
The bodies of the subjects were lying inside of a Ford Ranger truck white at the height of the arc that welcomes progress.
According to eyewitnesses the armed men enjoyed a baseball game when suddenly arrived elements of the Navy of  Mexico.  After  a Chase which sparked a shootout two subjects were killed and one sailor wounded.  In the chase the Marina were fired upon with the grenade launcher.
This action occurred after that elements of intelligence had been tipped off that at the site was the leader of the Zetas.  It was said those who called in the tip were at the game.
Reportedly found at the crime scene, in the truck the Zetas were driving  were long rifles, 13 grenades and a rocket launcher with missiles to bring down helicopters.
The Marina is still  working on the identification of the bodies, waiting for forensics to confirm positively.  
United States authorities offered up to five million dollars for information leading to his capture, while in Mexico there is a reward of 24.6 million pesos.
On 5 June 1991, at age 17, Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano enlisted in the ranks of the Mexican army and lasted seven years. At the age of 24 he left the armed forces to venture into the world of drug trafficking.
On 27 March 1998, according to records of the national defense Secretariat (Sedena), Lazcano requested his discharge from the army when he had reached the rank of corporal infantry.

Here is another report
                                                      Just now from Washington PostMEXICO CITY — The Mexican navy says top Zetas drug cartel leader Heriberto Lazcano has apparently been killed in a firefight with marines in the northern border state of Coahuila,

The navy says there is strong evidence the body of one of two men killed in the shootout is Lazcano, who is also known as “El Lazca.”

From Vanguardia/Milenio/The Economist:

After a series of clashes the day yesterday, which began in Progreso, Coahuila and lasted until Sabinas, the Mexican Marina fought against  command  in which Heriberto Lazcano, leader of the Z, was killed.

The death of "Lazca" was after at least three clashes  on the road to Progreso Sabinas, Coahuila.
Heriberto Lazcano, was one of the founders of Los Zetas, a criminal organization dedicated to drug trafficking. 

The confrontations were last night, but waited to confirm indentification of the casualties suspecting Lazcano may be one.  He was indetified today.

thought it looks promising...until a formal Marina or PGR announcement I won't be happy.

UPDATE ...not GATES says Lazca killed in confrontation with Marina.  still says Sabinas.
sorry, this is sloppy but news trickling  in...doing my best

UPDATE 10:43PM
apx 10 minutes ago a national network from DF (Mexico City) ran the report on TV saying is is Lazca that was killed in Sabinas....still no government confirmation.

reports on Mexican radio and Twitter is a violent confortation between GATES and Zetas resulted in the capture or death of Miguel Trevino the leader of the Los Zetas cartel.  This took place either in Sabinas or Saltillo.  Sabinas is a city close to Piedras Negras and Acuna.  Saltillo is the capital and is also in the states of Coahuila...waiting for conformation...for now it is rumor but wide spread.  It is either Lazca or Trevino, however Trevino would be th more likely one, if true. This has not been confirmed.  Keep in mind we have gone down this rumor path before....if  anyone has additional information please send in. 

 
 
 
 
"The confrontation in which could have fallen a founder of the Zetas, was in Sabinas, Coahuila" wrote Lopez-Doriga. (Milenio news chief)
   
"I can confirm: the confrontation in which would have killed the founder of the Zetas, was in Sabinas, Coahuila," said then the communicator. 
   
So far it is waiting for an official statement or a version of the relevant authorities. 

  

258 comments:

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    1. and they stole his body this morning ..... i think this is false fuck zetas all of them... if he died he killed himself

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    1. ARE THESE THE RESULTS OF FAST AND FURIOUS OPERATION FINALLY PAYING OFF THE JACAMANS GUNS AND AMMO IN LAREDO TX WAS INFILTRATED BY THE US GOVERNMENT DEA FBI AND SOLD GUNS DIRECTLY TO THE ZETAS IN THE NORTHERN REGION JUST LIKE MAMITO SAID IN HIS INTERVIEW IN YOUTUBE OZIEL AND CHAPO WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE US AND THERE U HAVE IT MARIO GUILLEN "EL COSS"EL MAMITO" LA ARDILLA" FINALLY EL TALIBAN WHO MADE THIS POSSIBLE HE SNITCHED ON ALL THE TOP ZETAS WHO KNEW THEM BETTER THAN TALIBAN MORE HEADS ARE GONNA ROLL YEEHOOO

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    2. Hell naw lazca paid wit his milliones to fake his death he has done it before juss lyk chayo b.s wach its all a fuckin conspiracy to benefit lazca so he xan lay low

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    3. This could be true but if he payed millions to fake his death this leaves one thing open hes gonna give up z40 the government wants his bad especially after what they did to moreiras son so looks like we will wait for the capture or execution of z40

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    4. US elections around the corner...Lots of heads are gonna roll...After elections, business as usual...YeeHoo.

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  3. Well, lets wait on a update...

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  4. Guess well know tomorrow not !!!!

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  5. Please God let this piece of shit die

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    1. My prayers are with yours. Amen

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  6. El Ardilla squealed?

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    1. He did my cuzin told me lol

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  7. What?? Dont play wit ma emotions smokey

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    1. hahahahahahaha classic

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  8. Every body is saying its Z 3 lascano

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  9. Please be Trevino

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  10. Viva la Marina de Mexico!!!

    Saludos...

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  11. http://m.vanguardia.com.mx/lamarinaabateaheribertolazcanoencoahuila-1391116.html

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  12. If its lazca, I think its fair to say z40 gave him up.

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    1. That's what I was thinking

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  13. It was Lazca.... killed or captured, no details yet.

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  14. Is Official, News are saying it was El Lazca. Mexican Marines received information from unanimous source of suspicious activity near a Highway in Coahuila. (Smells like he was put up by Z40). Marines better hurry and kill this sucker (Z40) before the new president starts governing because if they don't do it, he will be more protected.

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  15. I can't help it, my hopes are already up! Now I'll keep refreshing this page all night for updates

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  16. Heriberto.Lazcano
    Was gunned down by FEZ
    (Marina Special Forces)
    In sabinas,Coahuila
    Torres reporting...

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  17. Que caigan todos esos putos de los zetas! Pinches asco de mierdas! No llegan a hombres pinnches cebozz ratazz

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  18. joaquin lopez doriga said it was heriberto lazcano.

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  19. AP News reporting that it is Lazca. Kill in a shoot out

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  20. I would be surprised, or not, he was right there the whole time...or came back to the front line because of all the recent issues. Hopefully he was captured alive, the interviews/presentations will hopefully be revealing. We can finally hear the Z's side of the story.

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  21. I feel so happy right bow , I can't wait .... ;)

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  22. Rip lazcano the last one good chance of being able to kill 40

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  23. confirmed it was lazcano ! now z40 its the new boss which is no bueno we shall see a more bloody mexico !

    http://www.tierradelnarco.com/2012/10/confirman-muere-el-z-3-o-el-lazca-en.html

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    1. nope hes gonna get it soon too! his number is up. the ardilla snitched

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  24. Man both should be dead but if its only one i hope its miguel angel trevino for some reason i think hes worst then lazcano

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  25. Let's hope it's true that either Lazca or Z-40 are dead, but lets also not forget we are still a long ways from what Mexico once was, if either one is dead there is going to be an explosion of violence of other Zeta bosses wanting to take his place plus it will open an opportunity for the CDS to flank the Zetas fron the west into Cd Acuña and Piedras Negras. It seems that the perfect storm brewing above this regional area, lets try to factor together the power struggle between el Lazca and Z-40, the supposed rift between the Moreira brothers been agravated even more by Lalo's death, and the CDS starting to encroach in Zeta territory, the fall of el Celso in PN and La Ardilla in NL, and the death of the Zs nephew. The entire area in about to explode into an all out battle field. Cristero

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  26. I wont believe it until I see pictures

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  27. it wasnt lascano z42

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  28. Power to the people!!!!!! Of MEXICO

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  29. Not to shit on the party cake but damn what is up with the horrible translation?

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  30. Time to celebrar!

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  31. The zetas way......go out guns blazin,fk yeah!!!

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  32. he didnt wanna get taken alive,he shot himself.
    Now Z-40 is head-honcho,welcome too hell my mexican friends....welcome too hell.
    gates of hell have opened...

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  33. por favor a dios esta es deveras....

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  34. let's not count our chickens before they hatch!

    AND I'M A VEGETARIAN! (i really am)


    cheerio!

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  35. I had heard a few months ago that el Lazca had returned from hiding in europe back to Mexico because of the rise in power from the Z-40 and Z-42, the supposed arrangment between them was that the Z-brothers would control and run the all retail drugs sales, the kiddnapings, the extorsions, theft of petroleom ect ect and El Lazca was controlling the transnational whole sale of drugs, the issue with this is that El Lazca would control his business fron a distance (europe) and El Z-40 was at ground level where he was infront of his men at all times and also used this opportunity to either kill or have anybody challenging his position betrayed to the authority which in turn forced El Lazca to return to the region. Thoughts? Cristero

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  36. This is a lie you all will see lazca going out this easy its like man border land should hav not even took the time to put this up

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  37. I bet Trevino sold him out. I don't think it's a coincidence this happens right after reports of a split between the two of them. It's no secret Z40 is a traitor. Either way, Lazcano still deserves what he got. One evil man down, sadly so many more to go. I pray Z40 is next. It's terrible to wish death on anybody- but for the sake of Mexico, and for all the innocent lives he so greedily took- there is no other way. Z40 simply breathing is a danger to so many innocent lives. Vengeance isn't always the answer, but justice is. This cartel was born into Mexico through betrayal. It is only fitting the founders go out the very same way.

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  38. Wouldn't be surprised if Trevino aka Z40 gave up Lazcas position

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  39. I hope they don’t give lazca a burial at sea like they did for Osama, and let no one see the body and their word has to be good enough

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    1. Agree with you...Hope the public is not Hoodwinked again like the Osama dumped into the sea bullshit.

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  40. Please let this piece of garbage be z40 i will not sleep tonight
    so exciting

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  41. tato laredo on facebook just posted it to

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  42. Damn, I wish it would have been Z40 to die first. He seems to be the more violent of the two. Now he is officially the new leader...just great.

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  43. He was cruising aroun with no bodyguards? Just 2? I don't think he is dead is just to easy. specialty with the governors nephew being killed why woul he stay in that area knowing how hot is now.? If they fake his death zs and dirty narcopoliticos benefit. Z40 and 42 I believe they both will be killed by the marina, they have nothing that is worth of interest to Mexican or nortamerican authorities. maybe he just retired with a warning to ,narcopoliticos leave me alone or he will give the DEA al kinds of juicy information.

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  44. please let this be true i wanna his corpse on a slab and i wanna see Trevino on video being tortured then decapated slowly fuck zetas i they will all burn in hell

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  45. Who cares if he was sold out, given up, snitched, ect.

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  46. Rot in hell scumbag

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  47. EVERYONE AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY SAY ZETAS CHINGEN A SUPUTA MADRE SIGUES TU 40!!!!!!!

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  48. REST IN PISS FUCKING ZETA!

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  49. According to Televisa's head news man Joaquin Lopez Doriga the bodies of both men are GONE. The MP from Coahuila released the bodies to family members after the autopsy and have disappeared. He said you'll be able to confirm that tomorow in the news papers.
    http://www.sinembargo.mx/09-10-2012/392393

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  50. hahahahaha! mexico is a sewer!
    MILENIO
    ‎[Al minuto] El cuerpo de "El Lazca" no lo tienen las autoridades, confirman a MILENIO; habría sido entregado a familiares o robado de una funeraria

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  51. 10:33

    go to blog del nacas

    what a fucking ungrateful prick you are. she did a bang up job and by the way after she broke the news here i checked around and she was right on top of it all. another great job chivis. you have become my go to person, especially in your state (?) of coahuila you seem to have a good ground support. don't even post those shitty comments.

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  52. Wow. This is way up on the list of most wanted men on the planet! This new president is out to make his mark! El Taliban and now this guy? What, Sinaloa calling the shots?!

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    1. The new president? Lol calderon is still in office retard haha

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    2. Yes Calderon is. But the new President is starting to mark his territory...

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  53. Good news.......hopefully it isnt another fiasco of bs like when they captured chapos son. Keep up the good fight BB

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  54. This is good news, but now the psychopath is running the show. Lazsca was the tactical brains of the organization. This is going to be interesting to watch. Hopefully all the greed and ambition in the organization can break it up, but 42 is pretty damn powerful.

    Now we will see a different Zetas. Lazca was an elite commando and had a military mindset, and applied it to the organization. 42 was a street kid. The Zetas are going to get a lot cruder in their tactics. Hopefully it slows them way down.

    Wait and see.

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    1. 42 is in piedras or atleast he always was,but who knows now the block is hot

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  55. This all seems wrong... the head of los zetas on a unarmored ford ranger? No bodyguards? (Chapo is known to have a 300 men security detail), only 2 dead? (You would think that several z' would go down before letting marines get to the boss) Just keep in mind that everything can be bought in mexico, things like, oh wait: a fake death... especially when coming off the filthy mouth of Lopez Nodiga, this man is the kingpin of misinformation and confusion among mexican mass media and everybody else just follows along, just remember that very few people knows how lazca looks now And it would be pretty easy to replace him with a Chivo or any other look-alike, i guess we would wait and see...

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    1. You cant possibly hide with 300 armed people. what about when he was almost caught alone w that prostitute?

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  56. Trevino had his sources as well to tell him of lazcanos location setting him up to get caught. Trevinos a walking time bomb and so happy he in the front seat now to take over full control the next couple days will be critical if Trevino doesn't retaliate for lazcanos death he set him up damn why couldnt it be Trevino now hes gng to be strong arming everyone letting them know hes boss now even lazcanos contacts Trevino better be gone before new president takes over we'll keeping hoping lets wait And see what happens in the next couple days sinaloa has been laying low big time well see what they do next.

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  57. If they can't confirm it, then this is a mess. I can't believe they would release the bodies.

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  58. If they don't show hard evidence I won't believe this shit.
    He's probably under witness protection if he's alive.

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  59. H.O.L.Y. S.H.I.T.

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  60. Be careful without a death photo we don't know shit, otherwise if he is dead HaHaHa he got caught trying to have a life. What a dumbass, your a big bad narco leader and he gets spotted. Was probably a woman, guys aren't too brave over there right now. I just hope people realize to stay out of Coahuila. He wwouldve been alive if he doesn't use the one civil state to hide in.

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  61. What do you mean his body has been released over to family members?! Something about all this stinks just like when Bin Laden was supposedly found, killed, and then dumped into the ocean.

    "Uh, we're here to claim the body of our relative, Lasquito. We know he's a psychopathic killer but he's loved and will be missed. It's only fitting that we take him and give him a proper burial, Que No?"

    "Oh, and uh, we're not in any way affiliated with his oganization so if you could just hand him over as soon as possible to avoid any, como se dice, problemas with his enemies/friendemies, that will be swell thankyou; we'll be on our way."

    Don't forget to pour some of that 40 into the Earth for El Lazca. May the fucker rest in peace.

    Alright, no more extortions! I mean, here come even more extortions! Nombre Chale.

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    1. It kinda reminds me of when they said that they had killed El Fantasma from CDS n it turned out that it wasn't him....

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  62. I kept having feelings someone big was going to be captured our killed

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    1. Wow! You must have special powers!

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  63. Somehow, I think Lazca has better things to do than watch an run of the mill baseball game with a couple of two bodyguards--he's got a huge empire to govern.

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  64. 12:58 Are you that Long Island Medium? :)

    Everyone: I just posted Proceso's report...they say he was in a convoy..sounds more like it...however they say Sunday...

    ok BB..I am very tired....hasta

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  65. So if they're "doing tests" and he was "released to the family" which is it? He cannot be in two places at once. Plus if it really was him I cannot see the marines just handing him over he's a top capo and with everyone watching and waiting I cannot see this happening, if it is true the marines are corrupt too.

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  66. This better be true MF's

    (AJ)

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  67. More B.S from the propaganda machine of El Pelon Fracasado. This puppet government has no credibilty anymore.

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    1. Are you talking about Salinas de Gortari and pena nieto? CALDERON STILL THE PRESIDENT!!!! People you are something else=ignorants

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  68. Pinche Lasca.... no mames.

    M

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  69. died like he lived just a worthless souless bag of meat. Maybe more good people will live because of his death

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  70. Keep on it Chivis.
    What's your opinion for everyone?Are you believing this or holding for confirmation?
    Even with so-called confirmation,it still seems strange.Lazca is just a guy,easily killed.He has in the past been to sporting events,and this is the way they can go out.Any second.Another point is,you would have thought the Mexican government would have been throwing this up everywhere,why would they release the body so quick?It was similar with Efrain torres Z 14,they didn't know it was him,but,they released pictures of him dead and it was confirmed.Have to wait and see if they give any confirmation and proof,otherwise it could be shady.I wouldn't put it past that clever fucker to set something up like this to bail out.

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  71. People what does it mean for Mexico?
    Will it make a difference at all,the Z will still be there maybe even worse,if they fragment into vicious little crews?Who knows but in the scheme of things his death doesn't mean that much?

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  72. No mamès, El Lazca drinking hot caguamas in a Ford Ranger! He should be shot just out out of principle, just another big time scam otherwise they need to release all kinds if pictures

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    1. No shit at least say he was at a bar or in a fucking monstro turck I would have bought it lol en una ranger no mamen

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  73. Ojalá y sea cierto

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  74. The best Zetas are the dead Zetas, Viva Mexico, Viva Calderon ! !

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  75. Hay cosas que no cuadran
    1 Donde estaban sus guardaespaldas y trocas blindadas?
    2 Que hacia paseándose en Coahuila cuando está sitiado por el asesinato del hijo de Moreira.
    3 Porque su gente no le hizo narcobloqueos como a otros zetas de menos calibre como a la ardilla por ejemplo.
    4 Se supone que fue soldado entonces el gobierno debe tener sus huellas en archivo por si quedó irreconocible.
    5 Porque los marucheros no Han hecho ruido por esto como si no hubiera pasado nada.

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  76. why is so hard too believe that Lazca's dead,its a big dent in the psyche of zeta footsoldiers,but that wont last long....the fight goes on.

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  77. Now get 40 n chapo. And get back to smugling drugs and stop killing and torturing people

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  78. Lazcano is an ex special forces soldier trained by US and Israel commandos he was trained to kill and to protect himself .He always has 5-6 Kaibiles (guatemalan special forces)security detail with him I find it hard to believe he was killed this easily . keep in mind not the first time it has been reported that he was killed!

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    1. Exactly! & also...why would he still use the same exact haircut etc. as old photos? A beard, mustache, seems more likely if it were him. Too convenient.

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  79. This new picture of this guy that popped up recently, when you look at the old picture next to the new one it is clear to see that the chin is different, the ears are different, the nose is different, the neck is different, the eyes are different, the skin is different and the hair is different too. So I`m just wondering, why do people say its the same guy?? I can`t find one singel thing that looks the same in both pics. To me it looks like a random white dude from Canada or something.

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  80. sad to hear. some say he killed himself, and now before forensic tests, his body dissapears.

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  81. body released that quickly. sure.

    100% fake

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  82. Faked his death, him and bin laden are chillin In a mansion somewhere playing call of duty

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  83. They are several possibilities to this story.
    1: It is possible that he was killed. Chappo has a guard detail of 300 because hes all the way up in the sierra madre mt and the entire town is in cahoots with him. You cant roll in towns 50 SUV's deep anymore with out attracting the military. Some narco's have been known to even go around the cities alone as to not draw attention with a high security detail and I assume that is close to how Lazaca must of been hiding in europe and he most likely would of continued a small security force as to not draw attention especially being in coahuila with all the heat being brought down on that area
    2: it is possible it was a faked like the similar el chayo incident.
    3: The reports are to splotchy to make out any real conclusions. They were at the game then they we able to get in a truck and escape after the military shows up? After 3 clashes? I would expect the leader of the Second biggest cartel to not opt to re-engage the military. IF they did then this was a act of betrayal by z40 since I would be plausable for him to do this since its Z territory as he did to el mamito and etc..

    I pray it was z40 but as we all know hope for the best expect the WORST.

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  84. El Blog del Narco posted a picture of this delinquent (dated October 8) Can you confirm if it's really the same guy? Everywhere you see the same old picture dating back 20 years ago, but this one is looks recent and he appears to be at some social event with a young unidentified lady.

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  85. Hasn't he already been " killed" several times? He has been reported killed like three times before. What makes this time different? Remember that they captured Chapo's " son" and it turned out it wasn't? I'm not convinced yet!

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  86. DING DONG the witch is dead!

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  87. los zitas are done now...when the invincible leader dies...the spell is broken..they will fight each other to the death over who is the leader now

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  88. el lazcan was not bad a guy i remeber he did a dia de los ninos festival but still he needed to go Z 40 is the true evil piece of shit but in a way i sound stupid saying this but z4o seemed more of a asshole n lazcan not really but who know

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  89. oh and the Church donation

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  90. it sounds too good to be true

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  91. Z40 is nuevo Laredo in colonial longoria..
    he is being protected by the local general in charge..
    unless they send somebody from outside tamalipas ..
    He will never be caught or killed.

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  92. This went from good to bad to worse to embarrassing for the Mexican military! How does it go from a "convoy" to 3 dudes in a truck and 1 escapes? Then they claim one dead is Lazca but then say no and now say the bodies are missing? WTF? -CHIVO

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  93. Great news. Great work, Chivis.

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    1. Yeah thanks for killing Lazcano

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  94. he still alive the word in baja is that this was a stragedy to give him some room to move out cause they were on to him

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  95. Yesterday banners appear saying who and what is behind the who'd mess in Mexico. And now lazcano drops dead. Its a fucking.cover up ! Check historiasdelnarco. They have the banner there idk why BLB doesn't show that banner it speaks about everything as in a whol

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  96. i just saw a comment in tierra del narco where it says el Mayo Zambada was captured along with 14 body guards he said he was watching it in the TV
    -TWISTER

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  97. He's not dead. They said the same thing last year when they said he was killed in Matamoros, Tamps. Moreira just wants a distraction. He's in cahoots with the Zetas in Coahuila. If anything, this will dominate the news cycle for a while to take some heat off him. I laugh at the way all you chapo nut huggers will believe anything.

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  98. TO ALL LOS ZETAS!

    Become a Mexican hero and turn in Z-40 and Z-42, collect the money and start a new life for yourself and your family! The "Z Brothers" are worthless scum and they have set up many of their own compadres so they deserve the very same! Do the right thing and you will be a hero to Mexico!

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  99. Yeah right, Lazca was with only ONE guard?
    Yeah right, he was at a local baseball game.
    Yeah right, they killed Lazca and already sent his body for burial?
    Yeah right no pictures?
    Yeah right, Mexican authorities and politicians are not corrupt.
    -Cynical Mexican

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  100. Of course it will make a difference. He was on the receiving end of the money. Chapo is going to clean house in Mexico.

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  101. IEL Y LOS DCG MARIO PELON EL GRINGO Y C-1-4 SON INFORMANTES DE LA DEA, POR QUE DECIMOS ESTO POR QUE SABEMOS BIEN QUE TODOS SON BIEN MIERDAS Y TRAICIONEROS PINCHES JOTOS GEDIONDOS SIEMPRE SALEN CON SUS MAMADAS QUE LAZCANO Y 40 PUSIERON A LA RAZA DE NOSOTROS, PERO ESTÁN BIEN PENDEJOS AHÍ PARA QUE ESTÉN ENTERADOS COMO ESTA EL ASUNTO CON LOS GOLFOS, OSIEL CÁRDENAS ISO TRATO CON LOS GRINGOS PARA QUE LE QUITARAN TIEMPO A LA NEGOCIACIÓN FUE LA SIGUIENTE, SE TRATABA DE PONER COMANDANTES DE PLAZA Y ESTARLOS ENTREGANDO PASANDO LA INFORMACIÓN A LA DEA POR ESO SIEMPRE LLEGAN SINCHOS LA ORDEN DE OSIEL Y A LA QUE NO ESTUVIMOS DE ACUERDO LOS ZETAS FUE LA SIGUIENTE LOS MOJADOS QUE FUERON A USA Y POR MEDIO DEL LICENCIADO JUAN GUERRERO, EL DE LA CHINA NUEVO LEON PESARLE LOS DATOS Y POR DONDE IBAN A CRUZAR PARA QUE LOS GRINGOS LOS DETUVIERAN DE AQUEL LADO Y TRATARLOS COMO TERRORISTAS HACERLOS COMANDANTES DE PLAZA Y HACERLOS GRANDES DARLES PROPAGANDA Y ENTREGARLOS A ESO NO ESTUVIMOS DE ACUERDO LOS ZETAS POR ESO FUE LA DIVISION POR ESO SE HAN CHINGADO A LA RAZA PARA QUE SE HACEN PENDEJOS MELLADO. SI EL ESTABA INFILTRADO Y EL ENTREGO AL REX JUNTO CON ARA LA HIJASTRA DE PITALBA PARA QUE SE HACEN PENDEJOS EL ERA EL QUE ESTABA CHINGANDO A 40 PASANDO LOS NUMEROS DE 40 PARA QUE LO CHINGARAN EN LA JUNTA CUANDO HICIERON ESE ACUERDO ESTUVO EL LIC. QUE TRAIA LAS RAZONES DE OZIEL JUAN GUERRERO DE CHINA NUEVO LEON ALIAS EL LIC. GUERRERO, TORMENTA, M-3, MARIO PELON, CARIS LAZCANO, COSTILLA, EL EX-COMANDANTE MUÑOZ QUE ESTABA PRESO PARA QUE SE HACEN PENDEJOS LOS CABALLEROS TEMPLARIOS SI CUANDO OZIEL LES HABLO POR TELÉFONO POR QUE OZIEL HABLA DE ADENTRO LOS GRINGOS LO DEJAN QUE HABLE Y ORGANICE. LES HABLO FUE EL LIC GUERRERO HASTA MORELIA HABLO CON EL CHANGO MENDEZ Y CON CHAYO LE PUEDEN PREGUNTAR AL CHANGO A EL LO TIENE PRESO Y PREGÚNTENLE A COSTILLA QUE TAMBIÉN AHÍ ESTA PRESO PARA QUE VEAN QUE NO SON MENTIRAS LO QUE DECIMOS PARA QUE SE HICIERA LA GUERRA Y DESESTABILIZAR EL PAIS LOS GRINGOS LES DAN ARMAS POR MEDIO DEL LIC. GUERRERO PARA QUE ESTE DESMADRE, PREGÚNTENSE QUE SENTIDO TIENE PONER CARROS BOMBA NO TIENE SENTIDO NO SE LO ESTÁN PONIENDO A ALGÚN JEFE ZETA PARA MATARLO NOOO, LO ESTÁN PONIENDO A LA POBLACIÓN CIVIL Y ESO ES PARA QUE DIGAN HAY TERRORISMO EN MEXICO Y PODER METER MAS SU CUCHARA NO SE DEJEN ENGAÑAR LOS GOLFOS SON INFORMANTES DE LA DEA POR ESO EL R-1 MATO AL M-3 PORQUE PUSO AL HERMANO DEL R-1 CON LA PFP POR QUE PUSO AL TACUA CON LA PFP Y PORQUE A DIARIO LE HECHABAN A LOS SOLDADOS POR ESO POR PINCHE INFORMANTE PUTOS Y ASÍ ES COMO SE VAN A ACABAR SI NO ME LOS CHINGO YO PRIMERO PUTOS USTEDES SOLO SE VAN A IR ACABANDO PONIÉNDOSE EL DEDO SOLOS Y EL PINCHE MEDIOCRE DEL TALIBAN SE FUE PORQUE ESTABA IGUAL QUE EL MELLADO DE PINCHE INFILTRADO ACA CON NOSOTROS COMO NUNCA IBAMOS A ZACATECAS NO SABÍAMOS COMO ESTABA EL PEDO. Y PARA QUE SEPAS COMO NOS DIMOS CUENTA QUE ERAS TU TALIBAN EL QUE PONÍAS EL DEDO PINCHE PEIDO. EL DÍA QUE LLEGARON LOS GAFES CON LOS HELICÓPTEROS A REVENTAR EL RANCHO DONDE NOS DEJASTE PUTO UN RATO ANTES EL CHINO PASES LE HABLO A UN CHAVO DE LOS QUE SE QUEDARON CON NOSOTROS Y LE DIJO: OYE SI AGARRAN A UNO BUENO LOS GAFES ME HABLAS DE VOLADA Y YO DIJE A CHINGAO SI AQUÍ EL ÚNICO BUENO SOY YO Y ME SALÍ DE DONDE ME DEJASTE CULERO Y A LOS 15 MIN. CAEN LOS HELICOPTEROS Y LOS GAFES POR TIERRA PUTO POR ESO TE HABLE Y TE DIJE QUE PEDO CON ESO QUE DIJO EL CHINO Y DE AHÍ CORRISTE PINCHE OJETE, SUPISTE QUE ME DI CUENTA ME QUERÍAS APRENDER Y TE LA PELASTE PINCHE TRAIDOR Y FÍJATE LO QUE TE ESTOY DICIENDO TE ANDAN DANDO PROPAGANDA TE ANDAN PONIENDO EN MANTAS QUE EL TALIBAN Y AL RATO TE VAN A PONER PUTO PORQUE SON PUROS PINCHES TRAIDORES OJETES

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  102. RIP LAZCANO YOU WILL BE MISSED, ARRIBA LOS ZETAS

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  103. Meanwhile Chapo is laughing...looks like El Coss has aloooot of dirt on Zs wherabouts LOL 40 Next

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  104. Bravo!! hip hip hooray!! That's all fine and dandy, but just like in Bin Laden death case, where's the damn picture?

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  105. The bodies are gone and disappeared? How much would a wanted criminal pay and voluntarily give DNA evidence to authorities to make it look like he was killed then disappear again so that everyone thought he was dead? Then you are free to live in hiding the rest of your life so to speak.

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  106. I read on mundonarco that a convoy came in and took the body however there saying they had already fingerprinted the body's an confirmed it was lazcano.I say somethings up why we're there no marina around to assure this wouldn't happen from previous zeta interviews I heard that's a procedure to come and take all fallen zetas. For the reason that they won't be able to use any info off the body.When the Beltran fell against the marina they never left the body they even posed next to the body. He doesnt need to have a security detail with 300 men like chapo and the rest who believe that a man would walk around with 300 hit men must still live with there mom and believe in Santa Claus.

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  107. No great loss. As for the rest of the traitors; Mexico should bring about the death penalty. It is hard to read that these pukes behead policemen, sign their mantas and years later are imprisoned with perks available to them. Mexico should hit the cartels high, hit 'em low and hit 'em in between.

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  108. El Judas strikes again!

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  109. For all you morons that think the death pic is not him, the eyebrows, nose and upper lip are an exact match. His face is bloated so it looks different from the edges.

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  110. It was confirmed w his finger prints and resemblance. You would think they would put his body on the front page if it was true. Its common in Mex to have a speedy burial. They probaly confirmed it after the body was claimed.

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  111. **************+*FELIZ DIA DE LOS INOCENTES****************

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  112. What? Christmas came early this year!

    Yeaha yeah, the one everybody would be interested in keeping alive for a while to interrogate, to question him to death just happens to be pronounced dead--holy hormiga!

    They gave us the same 'take' with Osama Bin Laden: "WE KILLED HIM AND THREW HIM OUT TO SEA"

    Let me ask you all this: is there a reason why higher ups in Mexico would want to make him disappear, those who were gettin rich off of Z-40? -- and of course the USA has been tied in with helping drug cartels by different means.

    In any case, if he's dead let's hope the rest of them are taken down BEFORE CHRISTMAS if you know what I mean!

    Chivis, I'll bet you never slept a wink last night !

    We've got sun and blue skies here today; may the sun reach you all. Have a great day folks.

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  113. The photos are on historia del narco and milenio but it doesn't look much like lazcano but after the way the marines fucked up his body leaving the funeral parlour who knows who it is. This is why we cannot trust the reports coming out of Mexico from the govt, SEMAR, Police etc...major fuck up and embarrassment the "disappearance" of lazcano.

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  114. BULL SHIT!! NOT GOING TO BELIEVE TO I SEE THE BODY!!

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  115. I guess we have to wait until some narco mantas confirm or deny his death

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  116. This is B.S. "squirrel" snitching on his location but lazca escaped, there's no body. It was picked up by "fam" members. It's not adding up.

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  117. descansa en paz chingon de chingones

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  118. I need concrete evidence and video of him dead.

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  119. chinga madre looks dead to me

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  120. Hey everyone all over the mexican media it says a grouopof armed men stole the from a funerary and lopez doriga(mexicos acredited lier) says his body was given to family members even though probably all eyes are on°confirming if it really was him, so now we only have a photo supposudly of him with a girl with no body. This is a faked death probably by the calderon administration

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  121. Gotta give him props , at least he went ou guns blazin unlikethem golf cartel putos

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  122. VIVA FELIPE CALDERON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  123. Coahuila is having a busy little month. It's interesting that Lazca would be so close to the heat that is on that area. He's been a ghost for some time now and all of a sudden he is captured/killed just south of Piedras Negras/Acuna. Was he always in the area or did he come in to clean up Z40's mess?

    Is this the result of a falling out between the powers that be and Z's in that area. It seems like when they want to capture these guys it's done fairly easily. El Coss, Taliban, Ardilla, all of the recent captures (and there have been many) make it look as if they knew all along where and how to get to these guys.

    Can't wait to see how this one unfolds in the coming days. The Zetas are only Z's in name now, as all of the original defectors have met there end. I hope Z40 feels the noose tightening around his neck, a madman can run a crew, but an organization is another thing and I think that was El Verdugo's specialty.

    520/matt

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  124. GOT that fucker trevino is next!

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  125. Es cuahtemoc blanco no mamen,nada parecido por que mienten mejor digan que le estan dando proteccion y hacerlo pasar por muerto,por que va a entregar ala trevi y toda su gente.

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  126. one would think they wouldve had tighter security wherever his body was taken, hopefully we can find out what exactly happened at the morgue and if there was another confrontation when the armed men that took the body went.

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  127. They have a picture of his body in univision online. dont look like him. hmm

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  128. Those pics don't even look like him. It's probably someone else

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  129. La Ardilla, the Squirrel, the Zeta caught a few days ago, he will have been the one to give the authorities Z-40's location and to protect him for handing the location information it was agreed that he would not be identified as the one who ratted on Z-40 -- sure makes sense to me.

    It will be interesting to see fotos of the body that were hit by gun fire, this the current fotos do not show.

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  130. That's Lazcano? Doesn't look like the pictures that purport to be of him

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  131. bbc reports that the body was stolen by armed gang.. confirmation? otherwise good news.. chavez continues too.. simon!

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  132. BBC reporting an armed convoy invaded where the body was being held and took the body navy handed body to local authories to hold Now why would they do that why not have security guarding area doesn't make sense. Hopefully next is z40 he's got to go next.

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  133. IT IS LAZCANO AND HE IS DEAD,ALL THE Z AND LAZCA LOVERS YEAH,DUDE IS DEAD,THERE SEEMS TO BE LITTLE DOUBT NOW.The thing i wonder about is the death of Lalo and now this?Is this more payback?Is this putting someone in their place?Strange coincidence,it was apparently no secret at all where Lazca was,but now they go get him?Mexico and her politics and shady goings on.Bottom line is they took him out when they felt like it.And he wasn't some kind of king rolling with a million man convoy,he was watching a game.The LAZCA got caught slippin.

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  134. U all must be stupid! U think a guy that's been trained by the green berets and has lasted over 14 years in the drug game goes out this easily? He paid someone 40 million, Had those pictures taken with a good makeup job, had radical plastic surgery an he's gone. Simple. U can buy anything or anyone with money. Humm...why was he supposedly almost alone? Why did his body be released so quickly to his family? Why did t they allow the us govt time to conduct their own autopsy? Simple folks....think! This man is a trained assassin with above average intelligence.

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  135. Bull shit no body no cash reward in mexico u can buy anything even a fake death is sad that the goverment in mexico is taking it up the ass with no lube we not stupid we need to se a body obama fucked us up with his brother osama u got to be kidding Show us the body that stupid pic is not him fuck you its not what u know it. What u can prove so prove to us he dead a guy like this in a ford ranger where are los monstros that they build come on guys wake up and if he dead great for mexico but until we see we can belive

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  136. @3:55AM

    since you asked, I am not sure. He has been called dead several times, the last in tamps, but this time all th majors picked up the story and seems that perhaps it is him.

    his body is in the sabinas funeral home. picked up at 8. but the pic is not a clear ID and though similar in look, remember the old photos are a decade old...but I can see why they needed the DNA.....

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  137. Why would he be around there ? He had to know marines in area.lotta heat that way over goes nephew b ing murdered .doesnt feel right. And body gone now .. So all the conspiracy theories can start.

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  138. LET ME THINK LOGIC WITH MYSELF PLEASE DONT INTERRUPT ME WHILE IM THINKING SOME MEXICAN GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ARMY MEXICAN FBI MEXICAN CIA MEXICAN NAVY ALL LOWER ECHELON POLICE ON FEDERAL STATE CITY COUNTY LEVELS AS WAS NOTED IN THE PAST FOR MANY YEARS WERE ARE AND WILL BE ON THE TAKE CORRUPT MONEY TALKS AND BULLSHIT WALKS I CAME TO CONCLUSION SIMPLE ONE ASSUMING THE FACTS ARE THERE REF LAZCANO ITS NOT THE END OF THE ROPE NO 1 IS INDISPENSABLE OK I CANNOT SPELL THE WORD LIFE OF CRIME WILL CONTINUE FOREVER EXP: CAPONE TILL PRESENT AND THE GAME WHO DO YOU TRUST I USED TO VISIT MEXICO 4 X A YEAR NO LONGER CAN I ENJOY LIFE AND THE BEAUTY MEXICO OFFERED IN THE PAST SIGNED ILLOGICAL HOMOSAPIEN

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  139. Im busting out the bubbly and purple diesel after work. These soldiers should recieve a medal.

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  140. Here come the conspiracy theories.

    Lots of yall want it to be a big conspiracy dont yall? You want to stumble upon a hidden cave and land infront of an evil person and have hin say "you revealed my master plan!"

    Yall are no better than housewives reading detective novels. Of course Lazca would't be rolling around with high level security detail.

    Keep in mind he was quiet for the longest time. He doesnt like attention. Of course someone gave him up and of course its the same person in the picture.

    You guys would even question if they had matching tattoos. Seriously, get ahold of reality. Not everything is a hidden agenda. Grow up.

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  141. "Why would he be around there ? He had to know marines in area.lotta heat that way over goes nephew b ing murdered .doesnt feel right. And body gone now .. So all the conspiracy theories can start"
    Because he thought he was untouchable,he thought he had an arrangement,but maybe it went out the window with the death of a powerful politico family's member?

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  142. Could it be a Lazca double, we know Pablo Escobar used them. Cristero

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  143. The death penalty wouldn't do shit in Mexico. These men know they can die at any moment on any day already simply from doing what they do. They do not care.

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  144. Possible that this lalo's dad put pressure on street so they could retaliate? If so shows u what they can do when they want to....

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  145. Cant help to think all this is tied to lalos death last week??

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  146. Es mamada.....la marina se dice q es la mejor es la mas pura en cuestion de confianza....pero q desgrasia q se preste para este tipo de mentiras ya paso con el supuesto hijo del chapo haora esto lo del lazcano no mamen ya ni cuando mataron al chinguetas del barbas ha ese cabron si se lo chingaron de verda pero esto del puto lazcano es pura pinche mamada marina no manchen su nombre con este tipo de calupnias....y lo peor de todo es q es mentira eso de la muerte del lazcano es lo peor q todavia sigue vivo el hijo de puta...pero hojala lo atrapen los marinos ho otro cartel para q se lo cargue la verga h el y al puto del 40....pero marina de mexico les digo algo no nos vengan con esas putas mentiras culeros los mex no somos tan pendejos como para creer esas mamadas no mamen

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  147. HE'S FUCKEN DEAD!! IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN SOONER OR LATER.

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  148. A todos los pendejos que dicen que no es el porque no se parece a las fotos viejas, son unos pendejos, ignorantes, e inutiles. Claro que no se va a parecer 100% porque las fotos tienen una decada de diferencia. animales!!! Por eso es que nuestro mexico no avanza. Por la bola de ignorantes que hay. Idiotas, que no puedes comparar fotos. Todos cambiamos, pero solo pocos ragos se quedan. Ciegos, bolas de mensos. "El Verdugo" ya esta muerto. Creanlo o no!!! Idiotas.

    "El Ardilla"

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  149. The same path than el Señor de los Cielos. The Mexican politics just cleaned his slate. A very fake death. Come on. The guy is protected by dozens of zetas. After all he is at war with el Chapo. And been caught 25 miles from where los zetas killed Moreiras son. Oh lord. Watching a baseball game on a beat up ford ranger. REALLY. Come on gotta get better on telling lies. And now they state that the body has been rescued by a Zeta Commando. UNfucking believable. This is a HOAX guys don't buy it. Lazca is alive and most probably planning this crap to get everyone on the boat that he is dead while he seats confortably at a seaside mansion smoking cohibas and having partyes with the power elite of mexican politics. THATS THE TRUTH !

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  150. something smells fishy about this. if lazcano was killed why didnt the army or marines or the federal police or state police or GATES protect the body until famlily member reclaimed it. when the beltran died there was security were his body was being held, coronel also was protected. something is seriosuly fishyyy!!!

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  151. Now Z40 should ask for reward, for this tip-off

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  152. Apperantly, the morque was robbed at gun point by armed men.

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  153. Funeral parlors in mexico have been targets before this. The military wouldn't just let the body be dropped off at the morgue and end of story.No funeral parlor would just accept his body without the military guarding the place. Z3 couldn't be this dumb if this is an attempt at faking his own death.

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  154. The fucked up thing is we will never really know if this is actually him...

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  155. *****PLEASE NOTE WHAT SAN ANTONIO, TX NEWS IS REPORTING******



    http://www.woai.com/news/local/story/Official-Gunmen-stole-Zetas-leaders-body/gPVcduCnXkK_8iNQtjJSZQ.cspx

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  156. Oh he's not dead that picture doesn't look like him, shut up already and you all are comparing an old pic to that pic. Like anyone of the posters on here saw him last week to know for sure. It's obvious everyone on here post from the us side cause they are all conspiracy theorist. Yea right more like uneducated junkies who buy the drugs these guys supply then watch what it takes for you to get you supply so you can go back an play you Xbox and ps3 you Lil mommy boys and you parent prolly voted for Obama too right. He is dead dumbasses

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  157. Why when they capture someone alive they parade them around, but when they kill them we get one crappy picture from an odd angle. that being said, its not hard to believe he's really dead. Why would he need to fake his death? Hes been living comfortably for years he could have stayed gone. they probly caught him slippin. he lasted past his time already. this will not change things in Mexico. Business as usual, no blood bath. its already a blood bath

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  158. I'm totally glad that he was killed, or maybe is a bad thing that they didn't capture him alive to bet him up to a pulp and get information from him.

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  159. 40 is gonna put day Mack down now

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  160. Lol, where are all the assholes on here, who stated Lazca Z-3 was over in Europe? Just goes to show you that eventually all of these turds fall! Even the midget "Chapo," will eventually meet the same fate or be captured! Now, if they can nail Trevino (Z40), that would be news...Z3 wasn't the gangster he used to be...Z40 would be the real prize!!!

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  161. watching a baseball game? he forgot he was a gangster with millions of dollars on his head and that is why he is DEAD.

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  162. All made up, October 9, 2012 11:57 AM

    I checked your link and the story written there.

    I don't believe he's dead neither.

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  163. the man is dead. this guys walk around and feel untouchable until reality sets in thats its over and sometimes not even then. this guys are stone cold killers i dont think they fear much. i dont understand why people are surprised that he was were he was. none of know y he was there. peace

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  164. Lazcano is dead because he could no longer directly control the Zetas! With the split between Z50 and Z40...Lazcano could no longer trust any of his subordinates. It was just a matter of time before a betrayal would set in. Z40 is now the Zetas leader and he is a "on hands" type of guy, so he will remain elusive, as Lazcano once was...but even than his days are numbered. I predict Mexico will sustain large scale violence, in retaliation for Lazcano being killed! The Zetas will no doubt began blowing shit up...pray his passing was part of an internal betrayal and Z40 has a handle on his "monsters!"

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  165. RIP Tio Heriberto .... I never meet him but this man is cousins with my mom they played together when they were little in a pueblo called apan hidalgo.. my grama told me about his parents they were the first ppl to start planting potatoes in apan they became very wealthy doing so but my grams says heriberto really didn't show much interest when he would hang out with my grampa and his dad he would always want to talk grown up business and would always say why don't we kill them if they don't want to pay up.. my grams and grandpa found it funny at the time.. then my grampa passed he went to the funeral and that's the last time my grams spoke to him or saw him... he also has a huge capilla in apan hidalgo and my guess the pachuca one is a fake so peeps thinks is there ... true story .. ppl r happy his dead so r we cus he was a bad man but a death in a family still kinda hard to take n RIP tio Herivbberto LAZCANO LAZCANO

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  166. Another cheerleader bites the dust...next !

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  167. Could it be a Lazca double, we know Pablo Escobar used them. Cristero
    I also beleive it could be a doble,it occured to me also,look at his fingernails?Why is it that the pictures are always shadily taken from an oblique angle?
    As Christero intelligently got to it first it could be a doble?But it is another death!!!
    -Senb

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  168. "It's obvious everyone on here post from the us side cause they are all conspiracy theorist""Yea right more like uneducated junkies who buy the drugs these guys supply"
    Dude you are raving,be cool,give your ass a chance?What up homie bonie,no droga?I agree with you,on only that though,fool.
    Chill out paco you gonna scare all the white folks.Dayummm boy,is you having a bad day?
    Oh you is another racist whining loserrrrr.
    Do you think it was the US who killed Lazca?
    Lazca is dead meat,look,there he is lying on a slab,that not good enough for everyone?

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  169. @ 11:59 AM
    Man,whats the matter?Are your bowels hurting you?
    Take a suppository and ram it up your ass.Maybe it will smooth you out a bit?Or stop takin it up in there?Everyone loves a conspiracy,didnt you know,like the drugs you take,people take conspiracy's all the time.

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  170. no es lazca....el pobrecito que sacrificaron se llama Javier - tiene - pues tenia- dos ninas y su esposa. Ellos tambien desaparecieron. ATTE

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  171. 11:59 AM
    "It's obvious everyone on here post from the us side cause they are all conspiracy theorist"
    Why must you come here and scare everyone with your insinuations?Just because you are a criminal lunatic with ugly bulging frog eyes who roots for all these cartels?Cant you see with your own frog eyes?The man is dead?It is not a conspiracy he is dead,can you not accept it?Lazcano is dead,and good riddance.

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  172. Why is everyone so shocked about his body being handed over to the family so quickly. Take a look back at recent events. El "Barbas" killed in his condo, burried a couple days later. Nacho Coronel,killed and burried a couple days later. This seems legit if you ask me

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  173. when i saw the foto on mundo that was the EXCLUSIVE..I called fake...

    did not look like him at all. my dos centavos

    people please read all the post.. i posted as they broke and some will be incorrect...I just wanted you to have an overview of what is out there.

    Sabinas is close to PN and Acuna and why would he not be travelling through there? Coahuila is the home of Zs...they control most plazas. heating up since last month in acuna and pn and saltillo/torreon for months. it was bound to happen. i do think the squirel capture may have something to do with this, if it is him. and I lean towards it is.

    interesting update in the moreira murder and the bodies in the lake. I am working on that.

    I am sad. I feel this is a horrible thing for Coahuila and Mx...40 is now the "El Rey de Los Zetas" the lone premier decision maker and that is a horrible thing..i wish it was him..

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  174. With all the legends and myth surrounding this guy, and the high level at which he operated, there will always be some conspiracy, some doubt as to what happened.

    Even if he is dead and it's confirmed there will still be many who don't believe it, just look at Amado Carrillo Fuentes or even Tupac.

    This guy had built up such a reputation of being untouchable, escaping certain death, even a resurrection of sorts after he was announced dead several times. We expect a big spectacular Hollywood ending to his story, a tale fitting of a warrior, a grand scheme, conspiracies and elaborate escapes. Or maybe he died alone sitting in a shitty ford explorer, like the countless others, just another dead Mexican.

    520/matt

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