Thursday, October 11, 2012

Heriberto Lazcano Lazcano "El Lazca" 's Autopsy Report

Tierra del Narco (now along with other news agencies) posted a segment of "El Lazca" 's autopsy report.  I have gone ahead and translated it below to the best of my ability.  What you find within ( ) are words/explanations I have added for further clarification.  I have also included a video which shows the bullet trajectory, it's in Spanish, but I think our readers can get the point (visual illustration).  I am having a doctor friend break it down in layman's terms.

El informe, fechado el 7 de octubre, señala que el perito médico forense de la PGJE realizó la necropsia de ley al cadáver de una persona que se tenía como no nombre (nn), emitiendo el dictamen medico legal de necropsia en los términos siguientes:

Examen traumatológico:

1. Herida por proyectil de arma de fuego de grueso calibre con orificio de entrada en region occipital, alojando el proyectil en la base del craneo, en la parte anterior izquierda con trayectoria de atrás hacia delante de abajo hacia arriba y de izquierda a derecha.

2. Herida por proyectil de arma de fuego de grueso calibre con orificio de entrada en la parte posterior de la región parietal izquierda y orificio de salida en región parietal derecha que fracturó el hueso occipital.

3. Herida por proyectil de arma de fuego con orificio de entrada en la parte superior del glúteo derecho con orificio de salida en cara interna de muslo derecho por debajo de los testículos con trayectoria de atrás hacia delante de arriba hacia abajo.

4. Herida por proyectil de arma de fuego con orificio de entrada en parte superior de glúteo izquierdo y orificio de salida en parte superior de muslo izquierdo con trayectoria de atrás hacia delante de arriba hacia abajo.

5. Herida por proyectil de arma de fuego con orificio de entrada en region pectoral derecha por debajo de la tetilla, perforando diafragma, asas intestinales y mesentario, con trayectoria de arriba hacia abajo, de adelante hacia atrás y de derecha a izquierda.

6. Herida por proyectil de arma de fuego por arriba del codo derecho causando fracturas múltiples de los huesos que conforman el codo, trayectoria de atrás hacia adelante, de arriba hacia abajo y de derecha a izquierda.

El fallecimiento se dio a causa de laceración y hemorragia cerebral intraparenquimatosa bilateral y choque hipovolemico y choque traumático.

**Translation:
Chivo (BB Forum) posted the bullet trajectory and impacted areas:
 
1. Wound by projectile (bullet) from high powered weapon with entry point in the occipital region, housing the bullet in the base of the cranium, in the anterior left area with a trajectory of back to front, bottom to top and left to right.

2. Wound by projectile (bullet) by high powered weapon with point of entry in the posterior area of the left parietal (part of brain positioned above the occipital lobe and behind the frontal lobe) and exit point in the right parietal region that fractured the occipital lobe.

3. Wound by projectile (bullet) by firearm with point of entry in the above gluteal (buttocks) region (left) and exit point on the right inner thigh underneath the testicles with a trajectory of back towards front and up to down.

4. Wound by projectile (bullet) by firearm with entry point in the upper part of the left gluteal (buttocks) with exit point in the upper left inner thigh with a trajectory of back towards front and up to down.

5. Wound by projectile (bullet) by firearm with entry point in the right pectoral region under the nipple, perforating the diaphragm, intestinal loop and mesentary (fold of peritoneum enveloping the small intestine and connecting it to the abdominal wall posteriorly) with a trajectory of up to down, front towards the back and right to left.

6. Wound by projectile (bullet) by firearm above the right elbow causing multiple fractures of the bone that make up the elbow, with trajectory of back to front, top to bottom and right to left.

Cause of death: lacerations and bilateral intraparenchymal cerebral hemorrhaging, hipovolemic shock (decreased blood volume/blood loss) and traumatic shock.

**Here is the Milenio video with visual illustration of the bullet trajectory:

It seems that the wounds are consistent with the picture below, but his body (face) seems to have been prepped for the funeral viewing in the other pictures, our readers can make their own conclusions.


Here is a detailed diagram of the human brain as to facilitate visualizing the points of entry and affected sections.
One of our readers (Texpatnmx, BB Forum) was kind enough to offer insight from a medical perspective, thank you!

Having lived in Mexico for a few years now I can tell you that things in Mexico are not done anything like in the US.  

Mexico does not routinely embalm bodies as is the custom in the US.  Due to the fact that people ARE NOT embalmed they are usually buried with 24 hours often less (as in the case of Lalo).  Would you want a smelly body hanging around?  Most cities cannot afford the refrigeration or the embalming equipment that would be needed to hang onto those bodies more than 24 hours.

As for autopsies...yes autopsies are done 24/7.  The person performing the autopsy may not be in the building when the body is brought in, but I can guarantee you that he will be called in.  I have read all of the reports on here re: his autopsy and since I work in the medical field these reports make perfect sense to me.  I often prepare dead bodies for viewing and I can tell you that a little cleaning up, soap, water and a comb can make a horrible body look presentable again in just a few minutes.

Many pictures of Lazca have been posted and a few stand out to me.  

1. The picture where he is laying on the table with his clothing still on.  If you notice below the dirt on his shirt there appears to be a black ring.  That is actually blood and that spot coincides with the report on the autopsy showing he was shot in the abdomen and went through the diaphragm.  

2.  In the close up picture you can see the pooling of the blood in the face which would coincide with the pic of the dried blood and dirt on his face (he was face down long enough for the blood to begin to pool).  

3.  In another picture someone mentioned a "pan to catch blood" under his head.  That actually is a head support.  They are used to support the head in a natural position so that the neck is aligned properly with the spine.

4.  As for the hand position....when a body is being prepared for viewing you take the hands and you cross them across one another on the chest/abdomen so that when rigor sets in they are in the correct position.  It appears to me that his hands had been placed in that position and since it does not appear that there were towels under the elbow to support it the hand slipped back down (still bent at the elbow and in the correct position).

The autopsy report actually says the the first wound "housed  the bullet in the base of the cranium"  meaning there was no exit wound.  The second wound "entered the left parietal and exited the right parietal".  Think of where your temple would be and go back a little further almost exactly above the ear. These wounds would not be visible from a front view which explains why you do not see any wounds on Lazca once he had been cleaned (just comb the hair over the wounds).  The pictures only show his left arm so you would not be able to see the wound to his right elbow or the lower extremities.



Sources: Tierra del Narco and Milenio for video, Chivis, Chivo and Texpatnmx from BB Forum

80 comments:

  1. In other interesting news....the Mara Salvatrucha gang MS13 has been labeled a "transnational criminal organization" putting them at the same level as the Zetas.

    From the LA Times report:

    "The designation is the first for a U.S. street gang. Among the organizations similarly designated are Japan’s Yakuza and Mexico’s Zetas, whose leader, Heriberto Lazcano, was killed by Mexican Marines on Sunday. An armed gang later stole his body from a funeral parlor."

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/10/in-a-first-us-labels-ms-13-street-gang-criminal-organization.html

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  2. Who cares about all this? Where is the damn body?

    Sources say El 40 took it.

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  3. How could they have an autopsy report if his body was stolen hours after the incident? He was stolen before Monday morning? Shot on a Sunday. According to reports they were unaware it was Z-3 until AFTER the body was stolen and print results came in on Monday.

    You telling me they did an autopsy on a sunday afternoon/evening on a guy they thought was just some random sicario?

    I'm starting to doubt all of this. It's possible Lazcano turned, agreed to have his death staged, and is now off into some type of protection program living it up.

    This whole thing just stinks. If he did rat and leave, at least he's gone and hopefully that info will bring down z-40. Trevino should be worried.

    If we see Trevino fall soon, just reinforces the possibility that Lazcano ratted him out and is protected Either way their days are numbered.

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  4. He was shot in the back, close range, execution.

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  5. Still think that its a bunch of bulkshit. He will turn up somewhere and be up to the same shit. He's way to smart to go out like this and Mexico is way to stupid to even fuck with Lazca. Jtkidd

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  6. Good work!!! Thank you.

    Yep it sure matches the photo and also today i took the photo that I posted last night and you have here with others to a head and neck surgeon today, he is an associate of my doctor. he said much the same about the head. he also said no doctor could ever duplicate that upper lip scar as each person "heals" and "scars" differently...rendering it impossible, one could get close but no cigar. he said the distance between the eyes nose bridge eyebrow is always measured and that is difficlut to replicate in another person.

    his call...all the photos are the same person.

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  7. This changes nothing because the other bastard ruining mexico is still breathing. I hope el chaputo gets chopped up or captured by the zetas. He started this shit but most of all I hope people in mexico rise up against him and turn him in so he can rott in the supermax in colorado. I wish mexico had something like the second amendment. Here at least I have the firepower to take his sorry ass out and not be thrown in jail. Before the bandwagon starts defending this "good" criminal just know im happy Lazcano got his. If you've done your homework and not listened or believed those dumbass corridos you would know of the acts he has ordered or done himself.

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    1. Long Live Chapo. He is no worse than our own government here in America. Infact, our government gives him money and drugs, and keeps his ass outta jail. He has tried to Unite the cartels under one flag, but that's just not prosperous for our governments. He didn't start the war, the CDG did when they hired the zetas, and gave them too much power. I lived in Sonora for awhile..... Chapo's cartel is good to the people in the territories it controls. They don't kill civilians to simply make a statement as the zetas do. They do however kill snitches, traitors, people who kill civilians (zetas), and the unfortunate public defender who thinks his one voice will make a difference. The problem is not the cartel. The problem is the country itself. They WANT the cartels to exhist. Everyone from the top government official, to the lowly poor migrant worker. Its the violence they don't want. Same as americans screaming for war after 9/11 until we realized that war means death.

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    2. Get your facts straight el chapo did not start this shit los zetas trying to control all of Mexico and the drug routes chapo has been on this shit for years and never was a innocent family killed or innocent baby's get with the demo nigga or get your wick split the problem is not el chapo you would want that nigga for president . LONG LIVE EL CHAPO GUZMAN. BIOTCHHHHH.
      CHI-TOWN GANGSTAZ

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    3. Me la pelas tu y el chapo. All of these guys are the same. He is the one that started this "war"

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    4. ^^^ i second this. Chapos people in jalisco where i lived leave innocent people alone and actually help everyone around there.

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    5. I totally agree with this coment nothing would change until the government changes. There's hundreds of years of corruption in Mexico.

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  8. Rest in Hell El Verdugo. The Earth is a better place without you. Humanity is better off already.

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  9. The Navy got him right in the ass. Good, Serves you right you fuckin trash! You're about to get rammed by satan himself with no vaseline for all eternity. Muahahahaha!

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  10. Damn he didn't back down after being hit he had the balls to stop and turn around and face the marina and shoot back, now if this is Lazca he went down like a real gangsta. Not cheering for him but you must admit he went all out.

    El Cachanilla
    Shafter, CA
    Condado de Kern

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    1. Yeah, he fid an awesome job getting shot to death. He's amazing.

      You know, if you put the same effort into getting a job that you do in your. "gangsta" BS, the government wouldn't be supporting you and all your babies mommas. It's morons who think
      And act like you that glorify this worthless loser copout lifestyle.

      Spare us all your ghetto gangsta call sign rank structure wanna be bullshit.

      You look and sound utterly ridiculous homie.

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    2. If I read the autopsy correctly, it looks to me as if Lazca was running away. One shot entered from the front, puncturing his chest, the rest (and fatal) shots entering from the back. Thats what he gets for celebrating the return of the PRI too soon. Should have stayed in his hole until december.

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    3. Your cheering bro.. you just gave tht foo a sick ass mamada de huesos..who cares if he shot back what matters is tht hes in the other world now.

      Yoshi_phumo

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  11. Chivis it does match the autopsy, I also was a little doubtful but it was the fact that it is Riodoce that published it that made me think it was probably authentic. Now i am a Believer.
    a group of people will always prefer the novela than fact. JFK, Elvis, Tupac, Carrillo, Lazca

    Great effort even showing the physicians the photographs. I can imagine their faces.

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  12. People, come on please, what kind of world do we live in? Why do some of you like to lie to yourselves? Don't some of you have selfrespect? Im just saying quit confusing yourselves. we all know deep inside, Lazcano is not dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  13. @558pm dude remember when he tried(chapo)ambushing AFO back when with his henchmen?they gunned everyone in that nightclub that were there too party?he dont care about collateral damage he is a greedy fuck he didnt try to unite,it was already united you nutthugger!!! he caused the split.. get your facts right.

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  14. Ha Ha, they popped a cap in his ass, literally..

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  15. Excuse me.... they managed a full autopsy on every wound and had time to mud pie his face all in the little time before his body was stolen?? And all this is done to a guy who the thought was a low level sicario at the time??? I believed he was dead but now none of this shit is adding up.

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  16. It is a miracle they didn't blow his face off or nobody would ever believe it was him.

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  17. Ok ok enough already.. Hes dead. Lets focus pn getting chapo and mayo and that hoe Trevino. These bastardly fools need to die just like lasca. Mexico stand up and take a bow. A big fish just got fried. Great job bb you guys kick ass. Chivis i love you for everything you do for our gente. Chivo you too homie i love your comments we need more gabachos like you. Elvis se fue

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  18. "He didn't start the war, the CDG did when they hired the zetas, and gave them too much power."

    Chapo did start it. Ever heard of Juarez? Chapo is a greedy assed psychopath. Chapo started trying to take over everything as soon as he broke out of prison, and he never stopped.

    Lazca was made into Swiss cheese. Bwaahhhahahahah motherfucker!!!

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  19. the guy that says LONG LIVE CHAPO, must not go to mexico very often, or has never been to mex. Chapos ppl killed a lot of innocent ppl in the valle of juarez & they burned down schools and churches. I live in el paso & i go to juarez almost every other week, so unless you've been there, dont try to act like you know whats going on, and do everybody here a favor and stay behind your computer at your parents house.

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    1. Nah little homie u get your facts straight cartel de Juarez allied with the zetas in Juarez the only people getting killed by el chapo was el viceroys people and los aztecas as well as zetas stores and houses that were burned down were because they had something to do I.guarantee you this el chapo wouldn't burn a church and about going to Mexico lil homie I'm from Durango Mexico I know what's up so its still LONG LIVE EL CHAPO HERE AND IN JUAREZ KUZ HE'S THERE TO STAY. IF YOU CAN'T BEAT EM JOIN EM CARTEL DE JUAREZ IS DONE.

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  20. El Lazca se murio en la raya todo un hombre. Ya herido con dos balazos de alto calibre tuvo suficientes huevos para pararse y corresponderle ala marina con lanza granada, eso si es tener huevos y morir en la raya. Pero aya cada quien, pero El Lazca murio a tiros por la espalda.

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    1. Wow!!!! Que huevotes!!! Tener huevotes es levantarte a las 6 AM todos los dias y jalar por la familia en una manera onrrada, no como este joto que DESTRUIA miles de familias baboso pendejo tarado!!!! ESTUPIDO!!!!

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    2. No lo pude aver dicho mejor yo mismo. A real man is some1 that gets up every day to WORK for his family not a fuccin dope dealer/cartel boss piece of shit lacra for society.

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  21. Hey Chivis I read on riodoce that Lazcano was sick, and he had giving Z40 leadership to los Zetas a couple of months ago... Do you have any idea if this could be true??

    -LALO-

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  22. No mames se lo robaron y ya tenian la autopsia echa, Que mamadas.. gobierno) : abatimos al lazca.. (pueblo): y el cuerpo? (gobierno): umm, uta que crees cabron, ps se lo entregamos a su familia, digo, no wey llego un pinche comando armado y se lo llebo? eran un chingo.. (pueblo): no pinche mames cabron,, .. MENTIRAS

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  23. Did I just read that his body guard took off running instead of staying to protect his leader? You mean the body guard chose to protect his ass instead of his leader?

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    1. Lazca is the one who got out. he got shot in the back when he was runnin. Crazy dude still turned around shooting after they blew his arm off. Then they shot him below the chest.

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  24. Chapo is just as evil as other capo.....the difference is he controls others by proxy. he lets others blamed for his gain. Just like the zionist...

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  25. @8:37PM
    That is something that has been a persistant rumor for a while. I thought that perhaps if true that is he really was in Europe for the few months that maybe it was for some type of treatment.

    But he sure looked healthy and even overweight with a big belly...sometimes that signifies a enlarged liver.

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  26. Just read a.story that Lazcas' kidnapped girlfriend might be living in Pharr Texas and that she probably had his child in the valley. Read it on KGBT action 4 news.

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  27. Honestly I hope they kill Chapo next.. chapos greed is the reason Mexico is so fucked up.. all u fucking Sinaloa cheerleaders can deny this, but its true... Gente Nueva kills innocents all over Chihuahua... They extort them , rape the pretty girls of the towns... I know cause I'm from Camargo, Chihuahua.. and its not a made up story .. people from juarez will tell u

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  28. --READ THIZ-- WTF el chapo didn't start the war WTF where u been. He started all this even before Juarez he always been wanting Nuevo Laredo & Monterrey if it wasn't for him maybe Mexico could be in PEASE. A La Verga el Chapoy sus ChapulineZ pero mi respecto a Don Mayo ese si es un padron el y X-20 119

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  29. if the US never prohibited alcohol back in the early 1900 's there wouldve never been cartels. since than they realized thst Americans were craving alcohol and waving money around for it. if you look it up cdg sent barrels of alcohol. also minorities started forming mobs(Al Capone) and eventually street gangs all selling illegal things in America. Americans want illegal stuff! even women who are good looking but without a job can be her own boss and be a prostitute and as long as she safe shell make thousands a week.

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  30. 10:54 PM Chapo's greed is the reason Mexico is so fucked up? yes true but the truth is no matter who the leader of the Sinaloa Cartel would be it would still be very bad. All the Narco leaders are megalomaniacs who never have enough. So Chapo or no Chapo, someone else would be just as bad.

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  31. Glad he's gone. He aint gonna be hurting anyone no more.

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  32. WTF..I dont get it...So theres a picture with Lazca with a shot on his face/head..So whos the other dude on the pictures??..Im lost..!!

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  33. A Lot Of Thing's Are Just Not Adding Up Here Correctly .....

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  34. FFS can't people just accept Lazca is dead? he looks like him the fingerprints and DNA match and other captured Zetas have confirmed the picture of his body is him.

    People are so wrapped up in paranoia of the corruption in Mexico they are throwing around all kinds of silly things like it being staged or its someone looking like him pretending to be dead. LAZCA IS DEAD!!!! yes there's corruption in Mexico but its not THIS bad not everything is a fucking conspiracy!!!!

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  35. Para el pendejo que dice levantarte al la 6am, Si quieres hablar de levantarte temprano para trabajar, a las 6am ya es tarde a esas horas PENDEJO. Levantate a las 4am para estar en el campo listo para piscar fresas. Yo vivo una vida derecha y no le doy aplaudes a ningun cartel. Solamente le doy credito por tener suficientes huevos para despues de que le volaron la mitad del brazo se detuvo y se volteo a contestar con tiros.


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  36. Lazca now writhes around in agony in hell, being ass fucked by a thorn-cocked demon. Hope it was worth it you piece of shit.

    I also hope you felt lots and lots of pain before your sick, sad life drained away you Zeta faggot.

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  37. MEXICO NEEDS TO DO THE WORLD A FAVOR AND EXTERMINATE THE NARCO MONSTER THAT IT HAS BUILT, I HOLD MEXICO RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THE NARCO VIOLENCE AND THEY NEED TO ELIMINATE ALL OF THE CRIMINAL CARTEL SCUM BUT THEY ARE SO DIRTY AND CORRUPTED THAT NOT ONLY WILL THEY NEVER DO THIS BUT THEY DONT EVEN HAVE THE FUCKING DEATH PENALTY! IS IT ANY WONDER MEXICO IS SUCH A CESS POOL OF UN CIVILIZED SAVAGES? THE WORLD NEEDS TO INVADE MEXICO AND TAKE CARE OF THE CRIMINAL CARTEL SCUM AND STOP MEXICO FROM ALLOWING THE NARCOS TO USE THE COUNTRY AS A HIDING PLACE!

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  38. I can't believe some of you guys. Haven't you ever seen someone get taken down? The Marina put him out of his misery with 2 pistol shots to the head after being shot 4 times with rifles. That way NO SURVIVORS. The Marina has it down to a science.

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  39. Am I the only person who thinks all 3 pictures look like the same guy. I feel like the rest of you have gone mad

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  40. His girlfriend lives in Texas? I thought she'd live in Europe somwhere (roll eyes)

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  41. I told you man,i wouldn't fuck with them Marina.
    Dayumm they made sure he wasn't getting up.
    It looks like he took a couple at a strange angle?Kneeling possibly?Who cares?Then again,them shooters spray bullets at you.This dude had it coming big time so no hero worshiping please.
    He got caught when he least expected it.I think about all the families and their children at that game?Imagine them idiots walking around with their guns on show,and then a firefight kicks off with all the kids scared?They didn't care who got killed,thank god it was the right ones being killed.

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  42. Autopsy on Sunday?

    Yes folks, autopsy on everyday of the week.
    Mexico rarely embalms, and buries the dead extremely quick.

    remember Lalo? he was buried in 19 hrs.


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    1. So they performed an autopsy on a nobody sicario then moved the body to the funeral home where they cleaned up the face and used putty to fill the holes in his head.... all for a scicario that at the time had no family. And they did all of this right away?

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    2. I look forward to seeing the autopsy pics.

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  43. Hey readers, please read the full post before sending comments.

    there was no hole in the face as there was no exit wound there.

    read slowly, one bullet stayed in the base of the brain and the other exited and entered side to side. when he initially fell he did so face foward which is why the lividity in the nose and mid face region.

    the nick nd cuts on his face, the cut lip and tiny nose cut are most likely all from falling on pavement gravel.

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  44. Chivis, in one photo he has signs of blunt force trauma on on his forehead. In another he has no marks whatsoever on his forehead. Can you explain?

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  45. The thing that occurs to me is,have people lost their common sense?No where in the report does it say he had holes in the face?Why are people talking about facial putty,restructuring?Read the report.it is in black and white,and video if you care to look.And that is the reason people were talking about his ears,he took head shots and inevitably the head can get misshapen.There were no exit wounds on the face.No conspiracies.

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  46. @ Oct 12 2012 10:17AM. The statment says that it was a heavy caliber weapon wound to the head. So if it was an AK47 or an AR 15 and the bullet was stopped by skull bone? I think that is bullshit. May be it was a hand gun shot to the head, something like a .380 or 9MM.

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  47. The bullets were numbered for clarity but do not show the sequence of events. You cheerleaders watch too much CSI. Explain the low angle / high angle shots. Was he doing a ' matrix'? LOL! Zzzzzzzzz!

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  48. Shot in the back! The 5'3" coward was running away like a scared rat!
    Come out of his rat hole where he lives in fear and then down the rat goes!
    Trevino the scared shitless rat next!
    Come out of your rat hole if you have a backbone carwasher. Oh yeah rats have no bones only cartilage.
    Sick of these cowards being portrayed as brave. They spend 24/7 hiding in rat holes!

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  49. Having lived in Mexico for a few years now I can tell you that things in Mexico are not done anything like in the US.

    Mexico does not routinely embalm bodies as is the custom in the US. Due to the fact that people ARE NOT embalmed they are usually buried with 24 hours often less (as in the case of Lalo). Would you want a smelly body hanging around? Most cities cannot afford the refrigeration or the embalming equipment that would be needed to hang onto those bodies more than 24 hours.

    As for autopsies...yes autopsies are done 24/7. The person performing the autopsy may not be in the building when the body is brought in, but I can guarantee you that he will be called in. I have read all of the reports on here re: his autopsy and since I work in the medical field (20 years) these reports make perfect sense to me. I often prepare dead bodies for viewing and I can tell you that a little cleaning up, soap, water and a comb can make a horrible body look presentable again in just a few minutes.

    Many pictures of Lazca have been posted and a few stand out to me.

    1. The picture where he is laying on the table with his clothing still on. If you notice below the dirt on his shirt there appears to be a black ring. That is actually blood and that spot coincides with the report on the autopsy showing he was shot in the abdomen and went through the diaphragm.

    2. In the close up picture you can see the pooling of the blood in the face which would coincide with the pic of the dried blood and dirt on his face (he was face down long enough for the blood to begin to pool).

    3. In another picture someone mentioned a "pan to catch blood" under his head. That actually is a head support. They are used to support the head in a natural position so that the neck is aligned properly with the spine.

    4. As for the hand position....when a body is being prepared for viewing you take the hands and you cross them across one another on the chest/abdomen so that when rigor sets in they are in the correct position. It appears to me that his hands had been placed in that position and since it does not appear that there were towels under the elbow to support it the hand slipped back down (still bent at the elbow and in the correct position).

    The autopsy report actually says the the first wound "housed the bullet in the base of the cranium" meaning there was no exit wound. The second wound "entered the left parietal and exited the right parietal". Think of where your temple would be and go back a little further almost exactly above the ear. These wounds would not be visible from a front view which explains why you do not see any wounds on Lazca once hehad been cleaned (just comb the hair over the wounds). The pictures only show his left arm so you would not be able to see the wound to his right elbow or the lower extremities.

    It is very easy to sit at a computer and be an "armchair intellect" (isn't that what you all call it?), but it another to have an education and know what you are talking about on top of living in the country where these things occur on a routine basis.

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    1. That's what I call an educated answer... THANKS!

      W.S. 903

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  50. i read here a couple days ago someone commented saying that z3 had made a deal with the most highest part of the government in mexico cuz he was upset about z40 killing lalo and bringing too much heat. he would be able to keep his money and be untouchable for turning in z40. 2 days later z3 is supposedly dead. i think this was part of the plan to fake his death. thats him in all the pics at the morgue but no pics of the wounds and his body has been stolen. great cover up. so if z40 is captured or killed in a few we know this was part of the plan

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  51. Texpatnmx

    All of what you said is right on the money. I have a family member who works in forensics, has a lot of experience in the morgue and with autopsies. They have pretty much said the exact same things you have posted.

    The blood that's settled in the face matches up with him laying face down for several hours, the dark stain mid chest is also seen. The bullet to the head was in the occipital region (back, bottom base of skull)so no way to see that in the pics, as well as the other that went through the left parietal region and out the right. His occipital lobe is mush but nothing visible.

    Any body that would have been brought to the morgue would have had the same treatment. It doesn't take much time or energy to do the autopsy, clean, and prepare the body for the funeral home. It's all standard practice whether he was "famous" or not.

    As Chivis stated the lip scar and the other features (the nostrils especially) all match up.

    520/matt

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  52. He's dead! What interest me is some of the angles of the shots, and in what order were they received.

    Every shot except the chest below the nipple were back to front trajectories. Since he fell on his face/stomach this chest shot had to come before he fell. The elbow shot also looks like it was received while still upright. Now I had thought the two buttocks shots were when he was running but they would have had to been shooting from high up to get those extreme up to down angles, this makes me think they were received when he was down. The shot to the occipital region also looks like an unlikely angle if he was standing up and I believe it to be a coup de grace shot. The other head shot that was a through and through to the parietal region along with the elbow and chest shots looks like the trajectory you would expect from getting shot at while upright and running away.

    My guess would be he exited the vehicle, tried to run, took one in the elbow, spun around taking on in the chest (or vice versa), then the first fatal shot the the head (parietal region) turning his occipital lobe to mush and dropping him instantly. Then the Coup-De-Grace shots to the back of the head (occipital region/base of the back of the skull) lodging the bullet in his head, and two shots to the buttocks at what would now be a reasonable angle for someone shooting a burst into him while standing above.

    520/matt

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  53. El ZZZORRO YA ES LEYENDA

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  54. all these gangsta sites want to glorify the coward rats! Lazca running like the rat he was...shot in the back!

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  55. For all the Lazco groupies: Uh, No. You were not at the shooting. Just because he got it right in the ass and in the front does not mean he went out Rambo style gunz blazing. For all you know he could have been dead upon the first bullet entry. Talk to any war veteran and they'll tell you a body jumps, twists, and turns when being shot by automatic weaponry. For all you know he could of being screaming AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!! All the way to hell. So it's time you take that poster of him you have off your bedroom wall and change those panties you get wet everytime you gaze into his eyes. It's over!

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  56. I hear that Juarez is more quite than it used to be. People go out at night a little more than they used. The person running Juarez got everyone arrested and had them make a deal to join his cartel or else.

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  57. @10:13pm you are one ignorant mexican,so if some family knocked on your door and said"we are moving in this pretty lil house of yours" your gonna oblige and welcome them?....Juarez belonged too the juarez cartel,chapo brought murder and mayhem too that city,he did the same with Tijuana and also CDG territory.......he is so greedy,treacherous murdering tyrant of a person.He caused alot of this mess.

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  58. The scum dog is dead, celebrate now, another will pop up soon and then die like this dog. Zetas are punks, cowards, and wimps.

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  59. @11:22AM

    the only blunt force trauma to the face was his face plant when he fell after one of the head wounds. Either one would have made he instantly lose consciousness, and he fell forward. He may have broken his nose in the fall as that would be the first part to hit the ground and with full force.

    if you look at the photo i have posted with all the little gravel cuts you will see also a cut lip and tiny cut on the nose (inside the left nostril it appears to have dried blood, this supports the broken nose theory. facial cuts bleed fast.

    if you click on the brain chart on Ngato's post (this one) it should enlarge. this explains the bullet wounds a little better. The physician I consulted with about the photos gave me that chart, it is what hospitals use to explain to family members about the brain injury their relatives have.

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  60. A few of you have mentioned that lazca fell and the blood dried on his face. Hahahaha!!! It would be so cool if that faggot died drowning on his OWN filthy pathogenic blood while being shot in the ass!!! Certainly this pig was squealing on his way to hell!!! Bitch was starring RIGHT down the ground on his way to hell!!! Imagine the look on his face seeing the gates of hell with his daddy satan welcoming him with opened arms and a huge cock ready for his hansome ass!!! Hahaha!!!

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  61. Right, this puto is no man but a stinkin coward who preyed upon the weak. Glorify him? stupid people make idols of assholes every day.

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  62. I stand by the statement that Chapo doesn't kill innocents. My girlfriend is mexican, and I travel their quite often. My girlfriends father, brother, and brother in law are all pilots there. Needless to say, they know the cartel. Chapo is well respected by those who know him, and the people in the small towns that are poverty stricken have love for Chapo. There will always be collatoral damage in war, it simply cant be avoided. But Chapo does not just go and kill innocents to make a point to the government, as do the zetas. I am not saying I support the cartels, but Chapo is no worse than any politician in mexico.

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  63. Ha Z-40 got popped!

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