muy bien, esos son del grupo denominado zetas, comandado por luis arturo velasquez torres, alias el guero afi, jefe de la plaza de mante y victoria, el mismo desaparecio alos hermanos garrido salazar hace un año y medio, jamas se esclarecio la desaparecion de estas personas.se le relaciona tambien con la muerte del candidato del pri en junio de este año.
Thaks guys!! ARRIBA LA ARMADA Y EJERCITO MEXICANO!!! National heroes!!!
why the gobernant of usa dont help the mexican tows?? like irak ..mexico needs help in this war...people,child inocent has died and you dont do it anything...
pos no que muy zetas no aguantan ni una bala se mueren prontito asi no tiene chiste ni la arma que traen la saben usar
USA: .... STOP rifle and guns to MEXICO. And this war will over soon.
The Mexican government has to ask and that's not going to happen. Are you kidding? US troops in Mexico for any reason - no way. We would love to help! We would love to kill all of these Zeta fuckers.
Our military works for the New World Order not the American people. We did not go into Iraq and Afghanistan to help anybody but the Oil Cartel who thanked the people by jacking up the prices. You want our american boys and girls fighting and dying for your country, well it will do nothing but further destabalize our wilting economy and leave thousands if not millions of mexicans dead, including more civilians. We don't want that and neither do you.
More would die if the us army came in. just like more would die if guns were widely available (as many of the rednecks who post here suggest). It is a shitty situation we have put you in down there. Hopefully someone will wake up and reform our drug policy it is a health issue not a law enforcement issue. This all goes back to Ron's war on drugs that far surpasses either of the two idiotic wars in the middle east in terms of people killed, money spent and time bogged down in an unwinnable war.
asi se hace, hay q acabar con estas lacras que fueron creadas bajo el cobijo del pri-gobierno d tamaulipas.
why the gobernant of usa dont help the mexican tows?? like irak ..mexico needs help in this war...people,child inocent has died and you dont do it anything...'cause in Mexico there is no free oil that USA can steal so free like in Irak, besides, there is already a oil company stealing it. We don't need another american oil company in this territory.
asi es en cd. mante ckren bien chingones kon los inocentes porke portan armas y train camionetas nuevas pero komotodo el pri los protege y poreso c kren intocables a i el guero afi anda portoda la republica con armando alias el puga! te nemos ke acer denunsias para parar esto y dejar de votar por el pri !!!!!!!! *aki lesba el numero de la marina armada d mexico para ke agan sus denunsias en mante 8332280738 solo asi podemos parar esto!!!!
no mamennn como ke arriba el ejercito y la marina tacuache, si los ke los enfriaron a la verga fueron los federales pendejo, esos si son de escuela no como los pinches tacuaches de los de el ejercito... arriba los PFP
En serio que este asunto de la inseguridad ya se le fue de las manos al gobierno... la policia, ejercito y armada son insuficientes... si somos vecinos que le cuesta a Estados Unidos auxiliarnos
You cannot buy grenades and grenade launchers in the USA. These are coming from the Mexican military. Do not buy the line that MOST of the weapons come from the USA. They don't.
eso estodo ejercito sigan asi y el mante estar eternamente agradecidos con ustedes ,tambien alos federales dios los vendigan.....
porque quitaro la otra foto en lugar de poner mas puta madre
pero les encanta el pedo y el olor a caca, por que les dan un arma ya son rambo. si hasta para eso se debe tener talento, pinches wercos pendejos que con la coca se creen inmortales, andale ahi estan sus hijos señoras!!
@12:20US cannot "help" Mexico without the government agreeing/asking for intervention. and we are a long way from seeing that day.last month, our secretary of state, Hillary Clinton suggested that the US troops may have to intervene, as the cartels are showing increasing indices of insurgencies, while controlling areas of the country; much like Colombia 20 years ago. and how did Mexico receive this suggestion? They were pissed to put it mildly. The arrogance of the Mexican governmnent blocks the US helping in a relavant way.
@Buela Chivis maybe the mex government has a right to be pissed off....just read this article.http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/2010/0921_colombia_mexico_cardenas_casaszamora.aspxand the US government could do more like put an assault weapons ban which they don't want to do bz there scared of pissing off the tea dirtbags and conservatives!!!
.Mexican terroristas use automatic weapons, rocket launchers and grenades. These items do not come from the USA. They may come from your armory, or purchased from foreign suppliers such as China or Russia, or they may be presents from Venezuela.Mexican leadership does not understand that the cartels are not the top of the problem. The capos are like field generals and just like the Marinas big boss is Calderón the capos (terrorist field generals) also have a big boss.What is going on is not a game of cops and robbers.Americans would love to come and help but as you saw at Falcon Lake - Mexico would not allow rescue search teams for one of their own to cross the border.Mexico must get its priorities straight, get them up to the challenge of the problem, then resolution to the problem will begin..
pinche z piojosos son puros lava carros que se aprobechan de traer un arma y secren la autoridad de todo mante, no seconfien delos policias los z ya andan en las patrullas con ellos. aber astacuando el gobierno ara algo?? oya deperdido los (cdg) pero ke cbea el cambio, en mante anda un vw gol blanco, expedition azul del año, y una bmw gris, estos z estan como las cucarachas matas 1 y salen 10, osino ake ablar con el chapo para kenos preste armas jaja. chido y saludos para la banda.
Como MAMAN con q el guero es el jefe de la plaza, nacos ignorantes! le has de tener chingos de envidia wei ala madre..
The societies on either side of the US / Mexican border do not have the stomach to solve this problem. This is difficult situation for both countries. It will require very hard and determined men with unlimited resources and the guts to win the battle to defeat these Narco-Terriorest Gangs. These gangs operate on both sides freely. Law Enforcement on either side has been unable to deter these groups because of the restrictions put in place by the increasingly liberal views and policies of the gutless politicians. In Mexico you call them the Cartels, or Zetas. In the US they are “street gangs” or “prison gangs” like the “valley boys” or the “Mexican Mafia”. They are all the same people with a similar mind set and a lack of moral values and manners. They have stopped killing each other and are working together to make money. These elements must be exterminated like filthy roaches in order for peace and harmony to return to the border areas.Mexico can not stop the flow of drugs north until the demand in the US is gone. Refer back to the comments in the previous two paragraphs for the reason why this will not happen. Likewise, the flow of guns and money going south will not stop until Mexico stops the demand. Gun control in either country will not stop this, contrary to what the liberal gutless pukes believe, because the criminal element does not care if it is illegal to buy them. They are already committing high crimes and purchasing illegal weapons will not deter them. Mexico is a prime example of this. If the citizen were allowed to arm themselves I think the ability of the thugs to operate freely would be greatly diminished because they would never know when they will be fired on by the citizen who has had enough. The point here is that criminals will get weapons regardless of the restrictions put upon honest law abiding people.So when the good people of the US and Mexico realize that their rights endowed by our creator are being infringed upon by the criminal tyrants in government and the gangs, and resolve to the fact that from time to time the trees of liberty and freedom must be feed by the blood of patriots and tyrants! Only then will this issue will be resolved.You decide if you have the guts to do what has to be done!
October 15, 2010 11:33 PM its like me saying or they might come from your armory...do i have proof no, so i cannot make a serious accusation without proof, and what proof do you have against the mexican army or armories, you have none..so stop ranting about this and that when the fact is that drugs move north and the money and guns move south. Everyone seems to agree with that except you idiots at the NRA who don't like the bad publicity that goes along with guns going to the bad guys...grow up. Supply and demand learn it you idiot.
October 15, 2010 11:33 PM You really need to read more whats going on in Mexico and start reading more of borderland beat. Maybe you will learn something. Your ideas are by far the most stupidest I have ever heard, i only laugh at you bz your so lost on whats going on in this drug war. Again, my suggestion is scroll all the way down and start reading the first article from beginning to end and then come talk to me haha.
Im sensing a divide between the mexicans and the mexican americans. The mexicans are saying that the americans are responsible because we are the ones who are consuming the majority of drugs and the guns are smuggled from the U.S.. the americans are saying that the mexican government is corrupt and that the people are weak and that the mexicans should stop blaming the U.S. and should handle their problems. I believe that we are both to blame. The root of the problems begins with the U.S.. the U.S. has given mexico 1 billion in arms already. We are also the biggest consumer of drugs. But mexico is the suspect and victim. They are the ones suffering. Mexico needs to start committing to actions and it begins with government. It begins with leadership. Mexico has so many things they need to start doing in order to heal but it begins with their president. In the future, the mexicans will reach their boiling point and eventually will start to fight back or the U.S. will one day help mexico. But it all will begin with the mexicans. Do they want a better and safer country or not? Because at the very end, its the mexicans who will suffer more.
Good news, ZETAS are walking garbage
@ ANON 9:56WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US???Thanks for the link, and thanks for being polite in your challenge to my post. you did real well until you had that last sentence, no assualt weapons I agree with you, but the attack on us conservatives... I always wonder why bias & personal attacks have to punctuate a point. sometimes it is necessary I get that, but often it is disengenious/gratuitous and only pisses a person off and then they go off topic.Here are my thoughts. I am not a fan of Clinton, less of Obama, but I can understand where she was coming from and brother I am telling you though she used a poor choice of words in "insurgency" it sure got attention from the US media therefore people were talking about Mx and that I welcome...I was surprised that she said that out loud, and I am sure so was Obama. But really if you break it down, remove "insurgency"& replace it w/DTO control areas to protect territory and expansion of business, then we would have been ok. What did you expect from a liberal? Just call it ignorance.However Calderon is an ass, just like most Mx politians. They fail to address the fact that historically they are a failed government. Corruption aside, they do not even acknowledge the elephant in the room; any win in this so called "war" will not transpire without socio-economic-education restructure. The Mx government has failed to provide adequte education and employment oportunity to its people. It is why its citizens risk their lives to come to the US, it is why the DTOs have an inexhaustible supply of young persons willing to join the cartels as their only opportunity of employment. THE Mexican socio-economic-educational structure was designed to maintain a poverty class, and now that structure is biting them in the proverbial ass. SO I say Mr. Calderon quit fucking with the word game, if you care instead of raking sec clinton over the coals talk to her in private educate her, instead of the tired Machismo tactics you seems to love. And while you are at it stop telling the US how to run our country when yours is floating in the toilet ready to be flushed.I have posted before, and I will again, when I began working in Mx not one child ever mentioned cartels. and for the past 18-24 months I am scared, because they openly tell us their ambitions to be in a cartel, or the girls to marry a narco "to be rich". sadly, for the kids I work with I can see why they would view this as their only option. and the BLame goes to Calderon & those who have ruled Mx and have not changed the structure so that its people would have opportunity & hope.Thank you for reading my thoughts.I have a question of Mexicans...both Mx-Am as I am...and Mexican Citizens..if you had the power to dictate what the US could do to effectively help Mexico...with this issue...what would you have us do...?
@October 16, 2010 8:30 PM Well I was trying to offend you at all but sometimes I feel like the NRA and conservatives tend to turn a blind eye to all this violence when the United States has a shared responsibility in this violence with all the guns from el norte, some even deny that these guns even come from the United States when the sad fact is they do come from the U.S.....Everyone accepts that fact but except, some conservatives who feel that the second amendment is under threat which it really isn't...all the mex government has been asking for is a weapons assault ban which is reasonable. What would you have us do...?I would first accept the United States responsible and put more intelligence as the main player in this war. History repeats itself and the answers are easily found in the past. For example I would use the same covert operation the United States used in Colombia called Centra Spike, where they overheard conversations about drug traffickers and so forth, even if the Mexican government likes it or not, but in the end it would do us a great favor by exposing those who are in the drug business like this week with el Diputado Godoy- Toscano. Second, instead of treating drug addicts as criminals in the US they should put them in drug rehabs instead of criminalizing them, get them the help they need, and try to decrease the drug consumption. But sadly I don't see an end in this drug war until Americans stop using drugs or they become legalized which I don't see any of these ideas approved anytime soon. As for Calderon I really don't like him either but I give the guy credit where it is deserve. At least he had enough balls to take on the cartels. No president has ever done this, sadly if presidents in the past would have stopped taking a blind eye or bribes Mexico wouldn't have been in this mess. Can you name any other Mexican president who has fought the drug cartels like he has? NO! Can you name another president who has tried to rid corruption in the states institutions? NO! Sadly this violence and the fight against the drug cartels is a good thing. For once it opens up the eyes of all of Mexico to show how the state agencies were infiltrated by los narcos and it was time to clean it up. This fight will take time, Rome wasnt built in a day and neither will these institutions that have been recently created to fight los narcos, I have seen how brave mexicans have stood up against all odds put there lives on the line and have been killed patriotically, I can wait to finish college so I can join la policia federal, so not all kids are thinking about becoming narcos, my friends and I once we finish college know exactly what we are going to be doing. But yes I agree with you that socio-economic-education structure but my biggest thing is education, that is only thing that is going to save my country."To penetrate and dissipate these clouds of darkness, the general mind must be strengthened by education."Thomas Jefferson
Mexico cannot fix their problems without the help of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. That's it! Their technology isn't good enough. They have a poor army and police force. The cartels are whooping the mexican forces. How embarrassing is that? These police forces need to be protected by helicopters. Air protection is very important but calderon wont do anything about this. The leaders of the police and politicians have to be protected with bulletproof vehicles. The governments biggest mistake right now is that they are not protecting their leaders and so they are scared to do anything. Tamaulipas should have already been controlled by the military by now. El chapo should have already been captured. In a week, the el paso police captured all the leaders of the aztecas in el paso. Cleared them out of the streets and controlled the jails. The aztecas have no power in el paso but in juarez they are still causing violence on everyone. For now mexico is in a hopeless situation. You cannot help a stubborn country. They know what needs to be done and the U.S. is watching and sees that there is no reason to risk our own lives and money to help a country that is too proud to except a helping hand. So what will probably happen is the same shit! El chapo will probably rule in the end and mexico will continue living in poverty and will continue having a poor education system, a poor military and police force, and a lousy incompetent president. THE END
Was that Z-40? why is his picture blurred out? they never really blur pictures out
@10:00PMok...for starters, you softened my heart by quoting my fav president of all time...Secondly I am proud of you! You represent the best of Mx, its promise. But if you read carefuly my post I said "the kids that I work with" I work with very poor children of Mx. Even if they managed to stay in school that ends before they can advance to what we call High School level. I build schools, therapy centerrs, kitchens. I work w/ sec of ed and the goverment formally recogized my work in a beautiful ceremony. There will be posters that say I am bragging..I am not trust me I am not saint, ask my husband. Rather I say it to establish the fact I know the Mx education system and it is not equal, not fair and is structured so poor children can not advance to a HS level, because the education they recd is inferior and to go further they must past rigid tests and IF THEY pass they have to pay to further their ed. This in effect keeps the poverty class where they are. I was not talking about the many fine young persons who attend private school or attain higher education. They are in my volunteer base. but worlds apart. I have students in SHOCK when they volunteer as we go into the trenches and they see what exists for the first time, (because they have been so sheltered.) they cry and ask many questions and sadly it is too much for some and they never come back.Now I think you have some great points. I respectfully give you this advice, when speaking to US citizens about these issues, try to focus on not on blame but make it constructive and intelligent. People will listen if they are not attacked.instead of conservatives turn a blind eye...do not point at any segment of the population,.. You are feeding into the rhetoric...ignore extremes..both on the political right and left. they does not represent who we are. I will tell you a little known secret, we conservatives give more to social causes and charity then dems. and in my work in Mx..all of my other NGOs and 501C3 orgs are all headed by republicans! not one dem in the bunch and I know many. You will never here that on the liberal news, but as my pop said "don't tell them what are, show them" . Now I am not saying there are not good hearted dems, of course & most of my friends in Cali are dems. But none want to get involved in Mx or even hear about what is happening.The ban on certain weapons is plausable..not likely because of the NRA..but can be done with a good leader.and I support that..hey imagine me a conservative...haha just kidding. I vote for the right person, I voted for Clinton second term. I was impressed buy his intelligence and wisdom to see he was making a disaster of his presidency and in his 3rd year turn to the republicans and compromised. He deserved another term. Obama should do the same. But I think his extreme arrogance will not allow this.Calderon...I have stated he is not all bad. and that he is the best asshole of all the assholes. I should not say that but it gets my point across. Why should the people of Mx have to settle? In my opnion that is not good enough. an anology would be "you are going to be killed...you have a choice; beheading or a bullet?" of course you'd take the lead..but at the end of the day...you still will be dead.@ ajuliobulletproof vehicles (armored vehicles) are 50-100K a pop. You are correct the strategy in large part has not worked, the corruption prevents success. But it is not so simplistic, there are so many layers to the issue, so complex. You are correct the leaders should have greater protection and in my op should not be so visable, I even entertained the thought governments and courts should be operaated by remote. It can be done with today's technology. and important cities like Mty disban municiple gov and police and bring in feds. for now. & martial law in key areas. the end tambiensorry so long...
its funny how alot of you from mexico say so much bad stuff about the USA. Mexico's greed is what is fueling all these deaths. The guns mostly come from China, Russia, South America, and other countries with surplus of old stockpiled guns. Where do all the drugs come through? MEXICO. A small percentage of weapons that DO come from the US are the SEMI-automatic AR15s, not the AKs or Cuerno de chivos coming from off the mexican ports brand new from china for 300 a piece. its easy to blame the US, but the US solves its problems on its own soil. The cartels run every major city in Mexico. Dont blame the US. Blame your people. Blame your government. Blame your GREED. There was a time in Mexico when they operated without the widespread violence. but "superman" calderon lit the fuse. without a revolution in mexico, nothing will change. Soon people in mexico will be begging for MERCENARIES to eliminate the current infestation.
Breaking down her interviews sentence by sentenceinterestinghttp://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/10/tiffany-hartley-due-apology.html
@October 17, 2010 6:04 PM Just read this article and maybe you will learn something:http://borderviolenceanalysis.typepad.com/mexicos_drug_war/2010/06/largest-weapons-cache-in-years-seized-in-laredo.htmlThere are no American made weapons in this article. This is a photoshopped picture prepared by the American anti-gun liberal media. Haha..dude you really need to read more on borderland beat haha...and what evidence do you have that they come from china, russia and south america...you have none?? Can you even cite a source nope...so stop making accusations and start showing me proof and then I'll start to take you into consideration.
buela you have a point. bullet proof vehicles and helicopters isnt going to solve mexico's problems. but its a good start. protection means everything right now in mexico. these leaders are not being protected at all. captains. mayors. governors. should all be protected. good leaders are priceless. im sure somehow they could be made in mexico for cheap if there is supply and demand. shit, everything else is made in mexico for cheap. it would allow candidates the piece of mind to know that they will be protected when they assume position and can make proper decisions that will help mexico's advancement without having to choose wether its plata o plomo or kidnapping and beheading. this thought to me seems reasonable becuase what we have here is GUERRILLA WARFARE. there are many more reasonable and intricate solutions but i just feel that mexico is inadecuate in accomplishing almost anything else...and i dont say this with any pleasure. if a government cannot afford helicopters, well then, this government can never and doesnt deserve to win a nasty war, that should have never been declared to begin with, against a much more shrewd opponent. mexico has got to find some solutions here. something! they are being totally disgraced by doing nothing. and finally, felipe calderon is a horrible president. he has to be the george w. bush of mexican presidents. he is incompetant in every way. he started this war without any intelligent strategy. kind of the way george dubya started the war in iraq. he is just waiting for his term to finish so he can leave a bloody mess for the next poor president. this shmuck is a real "ramboso".
viva bravo no saben cuanto celebro su muerte por a vernos robado nuetra trankilidad de nuestra ciudad asi acabaran perros y dentro de sus pendejadas ke no muera ni un niño por ke van a conocer al mante enfurecido perros todos alconcillos y todo perro como us tedes yupi a pistear
The goverment of Mexico is really wanted to stop these killings they would but they don't want to. This war will not end until felipe calderon leaves office.
October 18, 2010 3:48 PM The war will end when american population will stop using drugs, felipe calderon is just a poster child for obama and the american government fighting a war that isn't ours. SUPPLY AND DEMAND DUH!!
@ajulioI could not agree more, until protection is given to certain leaders corruption will exist. However saying the protection of municipal Presidentes should be in the mix that cannot happen. Too many municipals, presidents (you call them mayors) are all corrupt as is municiplaities which is why I say for the forseeable future key municipalities should be governed by federal gov. I use to hype good wage to help w the corruption of municipal police..then I discovered that was tried..with dismal results..the cartels double the new wage. These bastards are not sucessful for being stupid.@3:48such a silly remark pains my heart. "really want to stop the killings" no, you are right Mx gov wants people to be murdered in fact they area praying hard that schools began to blow up so children can die in mass.
Hay una gran perdida de valores en las familias que somos el nucleo mas important en la sociedad y una falta de espritualidad, recordemos que este mundo es solo un paso hacia la eterinidad divina. Elevemos nuestas oraciones por nosostros mismos y por las personas involucradas en estos terribles eventos pues Jesus dio su sangre por ellos y la han despreciado, temerario sera cuando se vean en presencia de Dios.
EN MANTE LOS POLICIAS SON LOS QUE EMPEZARON CON ESTO AHORA LOS OBLIGAN AGARRAR DINERO POR NOMINA PARA CUIDAR A LOS Z Y PRESTARLES LAS PATRULLAS PARA ANDAR IMPUNES.... Y YO CREO SI LES GUSTO EL DINERO A ESOS POLIS QUE YA NO CUIDAN A LOS CIUDADANOS AHORA LES TENEMOS TEMOR PORQUE SON Z
dont think americans gun rights should be limited or taken away for mexicos sake, you wanna stop this mess arm the citizens, give them a chance to defend themselves from this murderous scum.
Mexico does have laws that allow its citizens to bare arms, the biggest problem is you have to have lots of money, or be a lawyer to understand the laws that allow you to bare arms, it is quite complicated unless you have money.You can join a gun club and pay yearly dues, you can allways bribe someone to register the weopens for you, like I said its complicated.
Although some weopons may come from the US. I know for a fact some come from Belieze because when I was down there I was offerd new guns (for protection) and when I asked where they would come from the dealer said I could have them in a day or two from Belieze.My point is we should stop blaming the US. or any other country for that matter and focus on the problem and the criminals at hand. As long as the Mexican Gov can be bought from the local police, Judges,Mayors,any and all Gov offices this war will never end and the law abbiding citizens will allways pay the ultimute price.
I think we should do a little survailance, find anybody involved in anyway with the drug cartels, and post a wanted dead or alive reward with no penalties for those who shoot these bastards, No matter what country they come from.
A LA VERGA YO POR ESO VIVO ENTRE ESTOS PUTOS GABCHOS Y NO ME PREOCUPO DE ESE DESMADRE QUE YA NO PUEDEN PARAR, el mismo gobierno tiene su responsabilidad ellos crearon ese monstrito
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