Tuesday, April 20, 2010

Interrogation Video; "Z43" Admits to Mirage Murders

A new video hit the Internet recently, in it we can see a man with his face covered and his hands tied behind his back.

The man claims to be David Rivera Alvarez, codenamed "Z43"...
He claims to be Second in Command of the "Plaza" in Tenosique, Tabasco.
"Z43" then goes on to claim responsibility for some atrocities that have happened in Tampico.

"No, no, aguantame, aguantame, se esta cargando." is the opening line to this video.

As the video starts, we are hit with this screen, the text on the back seems interesting but unreadable.. It appears to be some sort of list..

Numbered, and the only thing I could think of was a playlist.. But I'm not sure about that.. Some of the things I could make out where, Tik Tok RMD, 02 Ad Roman, William, 03 Ritmo, 04 Saltando.. I don't know if this could mean anything to anyone, but just thought I would name them.

In the screen that follows, we can see that there are 6 segments of videos.. None of the segments are shorter than 20 minutes.. Which means he was interrogated for more than 2 hours.

Not taking into consideration that the image shows there are 2 pages, meaning that there could have been more videos, probably even his execution...

OK, now let's get on to the actual video. In the next segment, I will show the dialogue of the video and try to translate for you guys.
 


"Captor"
What's your name..

"Z43"
David Rivera Alvarez

"Captor"
Who do you work with..

"Z43"
With the Zetas

"Captor"
What's your code name?

"Z43"
Z-43

"Captor"
What is your rank...

"Z43"
Second in Command of the "Plaza" in Tenosique, Tabasco.

"Captor"
Who is your boss..

"Z43"
Comandante" Charpane (don't know if this is exactly how it's meant to be spelled)

"Captor"
Where are you coming from?

"Z43"
From Villahermosa

"Captor"
What where the orders your boss gave you.

"Z43"
To act as backup for the "Zetas" in Veracruz.

"Captor"
How long since you got here to Tampico?.

"Z43"
15 days ago

"Captor"
What where you here for?

"Z43"
Start some heat up in the "Plaza" of the Cartel Del Golfo. (Basically this means to start conflict in the area)

"Captor"
Who is your immediate Superior..

"Z43"
The "Comandante Guera Liliana, or Alias La Puma.

*Note* In the video, the Z says "La Comandante".. Stating his superior is a female.. I had not heard of this character before.. Apparently the Zetas in tampico who killed all those people, where actually being supervised, or should I say, ORDERED, by a woman that goes by the name of "Guera Liliana" or Alias "La Puma" .. OK, let's continue

"Captor"
Who was the one that planed all the attacks on Tampico?

"Z43"
Guera Liliana La Puma

"Captor"
What did you do in Tampico...

"Z43"

Grenades where thrown in the nightclub in Tampico, grenades where also thrown at the soldier posts..
They..

(before Z43 finishes his line, the captor interrupts him with a question)

"Captor"
What was the name of the place, the nightclub you are talking about.. What is it called..

"Z43"
What?

"Captor"
What is the name of the night club you attacked..

(Z43 acts as if he is having such a hard time remembering the name.. Suggesting a couple of things. Either this had already been rehearsed, or he was afraid he was going to get shot the moment he said "Mirage". He took a couple of seconds before he tried to say.. Mo.. Moriage.. Trying to make it seem like he couldn't pronounce it. Again, the same question is asked and the Z is finally able to push out a response that sounded something like "Moriage".. His voice cracking up, I could almost swear it sounded like he was Crying.. Now with me stating that perhaps it was rehearsed, does not mean that it's fake.. But the Captors could have recorded him more than one time, perhaps not happy with the way the video came out?)

"Captor"
What else did you do..

"Z43"
They killed some people in a white Jetta, thinking they where "Grameros" (basically means people who sell drugs on the streets), they also threw grenades at the "Feria" and killed innocent people too. They also killed an officer.. They killed a taxi driver too. Attacked the military checkpoint here in moradillo, sir.

"Captor"
Who attacked the people in the "Feria"

"Z43"
Carlos, El Mono, El Buho y El Guapo.

"Captor"
Who planned those attacks..

"Z43"
La Comandante Guera Liliana

"Captor"
Who attacked the nightclub (before the captor finishes talking, the Z interrupts him and clearly pronounces "Mirage?")Mirage.

"Z43"
The Mirage? (It's funny how he had no trouble pronouncing this word this second time around.)

"Captor"
Yes, who attacked it... Who participated in the event..

"Z43"
Carlos, El Buo, El Mono y el (I can't make what he says here) con la guera y yo hiva en el taxi.

"Captor"
Quien ataco el puente moraldillo.

"Z43"
Approximately 20 trucks who rested at the command of La Guera Liliana.

"Captor"
Why did you plan on attacking the military base?
"Z43"
Because before she had already wanted to attack it, the municipal court but no, they had a confrontation with the soldiers and no, she wasn't happy. So she went and threw grenades at the soldiers and also to heat up the situation in the "Plaza of the CDG."

"Captor"
Who killed the "Grameros""Z43"
El Guapo, El Buo y El Mono

"Captor"
What else did you plan on doing

"Z43"
Killing the Taxi Driver Alcones (Lookouts, people who keep an eye on things and report anything unusual) To kill the other Grameros..

"Captor"
What else did you plan..

"Z43"
The plan was to take over the Plaza so that we could attack from within.

"Captor"
Attack from within?

"Z43"
Yes, correct.

"Captor"
Who was going to stay in control of this operative?

"Z43"
La Comandante Guera Liliana

"Captor"
And you.. what was your job in this operative..

"Z43"
I was in charge of some groups they send from Villahermosa, of the Comandante Charpane..(at this point you can hear his voice just crack up, the man with his eyes covered is just waiting to feel the bullet.. I guess as he feels that the interview approaches to an end, he starts to fear for his life even more..)

"Captor"
How many elements did you have..

"Z43"
10

"Captor"
(louder)How many?!

"Z43"
10

"Captor"
How many elements where there in Tampico, of the group that belonged to La Comandante Guera..

"Z43"
Approximately 30

"Captor"
30 elements?

"Z43"
Yess..

After a few seconds, the video goes black..

OK, let's recap a bit.. In the video, this man takes credit, or well he doesn't take credit.. But he basically says that his band of brothers where the ones responsible for the Mirage Massacre Incident that was covered on April 7, by Buggs. The captors never reveal their identity, but who else can they be, if not the Military, or the CDG.. Or maybe even a collaboration.

Sadly.. Or not.. You decide, this person was found right outside Televisa in Tampico, executed. He had been shot, single shot to the head..

When you hear the Zeta talking calmly on the video.. Or fearlessly, a lot of people might think that it's faked.. Don't.. The person knows what is going to happen.. But why do they talk then? Because the cartels can be very ruthless.. I know this for a fact, they give you 2 options... you either pick a quick and painless death.. Or you die a ruthless, slow death..
Example.. Decapitation..
The captives atleast didn't make him suffer.. The man had a single shot to the head, and you couldn't see signs of torture when he talks on the video..

I try to feel compassion for this person, and I find it hard.. But I do.. Deep down I feel sympathy and sorrow for this man.. Because although he killed alot of innocent people, children and women.. If I didn't feel bad for him, then I would be going against all my moral standards.. No matter how hard things get, and how bad some people may be... I will never be an animal like them.. If a man loses his compassion, then what humanity is left in him?

13 comments:

  1. damn..thanks for the interpretation RM. You bring up an interesting point about trying to feel compassion for some of these guys. Especially when you see them in this manner. I'm really surprised they didn't tear him limb from limb though.

    It's sad though to see that they don't fully realize the beauty and frailty of life until they are at the wrong end of the barrel.

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  2. Oh My fucken God! I held on to every letter of this post until I read all of it. This shit is scary and opens a window a bit to the dark side of the Zetas, please keep this kind of reporting going!

    OMG!!!!

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  3. Thanks Kevin, appreciate the comment.

    Btw, ignore the email address in the Video, that's not the original video. I actually lost the original video, so this is the only other one I lost.. I mean they're the same, only difference is that this one takes credit for being CDG.

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  4. Wonderful reportage.

    I know it is much to ask but if you could translate more of such videos that would give lot of non-Hispanics like us a better idea of this menace that seems to be tearing apart Mexico.

    Best wishes.

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  5. at 1:19 "Quien fue LA que planeo todos los attaques a Tampico?" states the interrogator, how did he already know that it was a female that carried out the orders?

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  6. No, at minute 1:14 he asks. "Who is your immediate commander" that's when the Zeta answers, "LA" Comandante Guera Liliana

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  7. hey RM have you ever heard of any sicarios that actually went back from the dark side? as in...realizing none of this was worth it and dipped out?

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  8. Yeah man, I do.. A couple actually.. I can't mention names.. But there are alot, actually alot of Zetas who where not broke deadbeats, left the war and crossed the border.. It's like I said, you have to always keep your humanity man.. Because not all the people who are caught and executed where bad people bro.. And even so, a man can kill 100 people without mercy, but that does not mean that his son or his wife, have to suffer the same fate.. Or even be punished for it.. You know what I mean.. But even in a video man, uhmm I think it's one where they interrogate a Zeta, the Zeta states that the old person incharge of la plaza there left because he did not like the way they where managing their "business".. I'll research that for you and update you on it.

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  9. arturo_toledano@hotmail.comApril 27, 2010 at 10:24 AM

    Hi guys, Im from Tampico. In this line:

    "Z43"
    Comandante" Charpane (don't know if this is exactly how it's meant to be spelled)

    He says "Shar Pei", like the chinese dog...in Mexico, refers to someone with wrinkled skin in the neck, near the nape, or face...like the dog.

    And this video is real. People here are afraid. Gunmen stopped vehicles...sometimes interrogate them...but in others, confuse people and beat them...at best...

    I just hope things improve.


    Perhaps for many of you, we are just a stinking Mexican, but I bath daily and most of the people too.

    We are working people who want to live in peace, not all Mexicans are criminals so as not all "gringos" are drug addicts...

    We just want to work in our city and put food on our families and not die trying.

    bye friends

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  10. Arturo, don't say that. I cover the stories I cover because I try to do my part at helping. I know it's not much, but I try to bring your stories to light. I appreciate you taking your time to comment in this blog, thank you for reading. And thanks for the correction.
    I'm a proud Mexican, and no matter what I'll always admire my roots. Mexicans are never short on pride.

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  11. I agree that you have to look upon almost all of these guys with a certain degree of compassion. Even the most hardcore killers. I believe all folks are a product of their environment and many of these men and young boys are surrounded by violence, encultured by it. They may commit inhumane acts but i believe they retain some humanity. I believe we in the united states have the power to end this war by eliminating the black market these cartels fight so desperately to control.

    Aaron H

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  12. you can totally tell that this man is reading this out of a paper..if u can tell instead of covering all his face they left a space opened at the bootom where he could read uder him the paper...when he gets up u can see that..and suddenly when they ask him something he looks up like trying to see the person from where he has the opening at the bottom...when the one asking stayes quiet u can hear a lot of noice and a women talking....the reason that he cant pronouns the name is because the person that wrote it wasnt clear...he tried to read it but couldnt so thats why he says something and he knows its wrong and nodes his head...and then he reads it...

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  13. I have seen the entire original video... And yes it shows where he gets shot after being asked about kidnapping innocent civilians. At which point he answers, they claim to be part of the rivals & that it's done in order to meet a quota and get paid. (Z-43 was involved in the knapping and murder of my good friend's young son)
    If you play the game, you must keep in mind it ends at some point.

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