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Thursday, September 22, 2022

Governor of Texas Designates Mexican Cartels As Terrorist Groups Through Executive Order

"HEARST" for Borderland Beat 

The governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, issued an executive order designating Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations. 


The Executive Order


At approximately 1:30 pm on September 21, 2022, Governor Abbott announced he was issuing an executive order designating the Mexican groups like the Sinaloa Cartel and the Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generation (CJNG) as foreign terrorist organizations. 




The executive order can be read in full at this link. It says, in part:


“NOW, THEREFORE, I, Greg Abbott, Governor of Texas, by virtue of the power and authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the State of Texas, do hereby designate as foreign terrorist organizations the Sinaloa Cartel, the Jalisco New Generation Cartel, and any similarly situated Mexican drug cartels who may be identified in subsequent proclamations [...]


WHEREAS, even though President Biden has declared a national emergency due to “trafficking into the United States of illicit drugs, including fentanyl and other synthetic opioids,” his Administration still has not designated the Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations under Section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. § 1189."

It then goes on to say: 

I further order that the Texas Department of Public Safety shall do the following: 


Order No. 1

Establish a Mexican Cartel Division within the Texas Fusion Center to collect and analyze intelligence that will enable further apprehension, prosecution, and disruption of these foreign terrorist organizations. 


Order No. 2

Identify, arrest, and impede the gangs in Texas that support the drug and human smuggling operations of these foreign terrorist organizations. 


Order No. 3

Conduct multi-jurisdictional investigations of foreign terrorist organizations operating in Texas to support criminal prosecutions here and in other States. 


Order No. 4

Conduct multi-jurisdictional investigations of transnational and Texas based gangs that support the smuggling operations of foreign terrorist organizations. 


Order No. 5

Target, seize, and dismantle the infrastructure, assets, vehicles, and buildings used by foreign terrorist organizations to smuggle drugs and people into and throughout Texas. 


Order No. 6

Enhance southbound criminal interdiction operations resulting in the seizure of bulk cash and other assets being smuggled into Mexico. 


Order No. 7

Intensify efforts under Operation Lone Star focused on detecting and interdicting transnational criminal activity between the ports of entry.

All of the political discourse in the US over the last few years about cartels being designated as terrorist organizations has related specifically to Section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. § 1189, which can be read in full here


The act clearly states that the person who can make this designation is the US Secretary of State, a position currently held by Antony Blinken. 


Us Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

A state governor “designating” a cartel group as a terrorist organization, even through executive order, has no impact and does not trigger any change in regards to the federal government, federal agencies, or the Immigration and Nationality Act (often shortened to just INA), 8 U.S.C. § 1189. The state's executive order has no bearing on federal economic sanctions or the asylum claims of immigrants. 



Additionally, it should be noted that Texas state government holds no funding or legal powers in reserve for combatting foreign terrorist groups because that is not within the purview of a state government, only a federal one.



The order’s seven specific mandates for the Texas Department of Public Safety could have been enacted without the “designation”, according to the scope of the gubernatorial power defined in the Texas constitution. 


So, for the sake of clarity, it's important to establish that the use of this term - “foreign terrorist organization” - within the executive order is purely symbolic. 




The Letter


The symbolic wording is likely meant to draw attention to the second announcement the governor made: that he “sent a letter to President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris requesting federal terrorist classifications for the Sinaloa Cartel and Jalisco New Generation Cartel, as well as other cartels producing and distributing deadly fentanyl.” 


It should be noted that Governor Abbott has sent a letter requesting this before, back in April 2021. To read his previous letter, click here



The letter can be read in full here. It outlines how the governor believes the two aforementioned cartel groups fit the criteria outlined in Section 219. He writes: 


“Moreover, these statistics underscore that fentanyl is a ‘chemical agent’ used by Mexican drug cartels who know that it ‘endangers, directly or indirectly, the safety of one or more individuals.’ 8 U.S.C. § 1182(a)(3)(B)(iii)(V). 


This is ‘terrorist activity’ within the meaning of the INA and fulfills the requirements for designation under Section 219. [...] 


As the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) explained just over a week ago, ‘fentanyl available in the United States is primarily supplied by two criminal drug networks, the Sinaloa Cartel and the Jalisco New Generation Cartel’.” 

 

He continues, outlining next the benefits he believes designation under Section 219 would give the government in its ability to fight drug cartels: 


“Mr. President and Madam Vice-President, if we agree on the problem—and your emergency declaration and your own DEA Administrator indicate that we do—then more must be done for our citizens. 


One way you can take an effective, direct step to address the scourge of fentanyl is by designating the Sinaloa Cartel, the Jalisco New Generation Cartel, and any similarly situated Mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations under Section 219 of the INA, 8 U.S.C. § 1189. 


Cartel assets could then be frozen, weakening the financial support of trafficking activities. 


In addition, federal investigators and prosecutors could aggressively pursue the enhanced criminal sentences that apply to drug traffickers who fund foreign terrorist organizations. 


Designation, apprehension, and prosecution would also heighten public awareness of the cartels’ trafficking of deadly fentanyl, while signaling to the international community that the United States will not tolerate terrorists who poison our citizens.”

Additionally, hours before the governor’s announcement, US Senator Roger Marshall (R-Kan.) and Senator Rick Scott (R-Fla.) proposed legislation to Congress which would, if approved, formally designate drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. Their bill can be read at the link here.  






Some Prior Context


During a White House meeting on the opioid crisis (which you can watch on C-SPAN here) in June 2019, President Trump asked the acting administrator of the DEA, Uttam Dhillon, if he would choose to designate Mexican cartels as terrorist organizations.



Dhillon responded “No, sir. I think we have all the authority we need. We just need the cooperation of our various foreign governments to attack them more effectively, and we’re working to gain that.”


But larger scale discussion of potential designation restarted in the wake of the LeBaron massacre, which left 9 US citizens dead after their vehicles were attacked by cartel hitmen in Chihuahua, Mexico, on November 4, 2019. 


Remnants of a vehicle destroyed in the LeBaron massacre.


In response, President Trump said that he intended to “designate those cartels in Mexico as terror groups and start hitting them with drones and things like that,” during a radio interview on November 26, 2019.



During the next week, US Attorney General William Barr discussed the possible designation with President Lopez Obrador and Mexico’s Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard during a meeting in Mexico City.


Minister Ebrard later told Televisa news that they discussed how one of the requirements for US asylum was “a credible fear of persecution”. 


Minister Ebrard on left, Attorney General Barr in center, during the 2019 meeting.


By designating cartels as terrorist groups, Ebrard said “they could come to the United States and say, ‘I come from a place where there’s terrorism,’ and [the U.S.] would have to grant them credible fear [of persecution].”


The day after the meeting, Trump tweeted out that “All necessary work has been completed to declare Mexican Cartels terrorist organizations [...] However, at the request of a man who I like and respect, and has worked so well with us, President Andres Manuel @lopezobrador we will temporarily hold off this designation and step up our joint efforts to deal decisively with these vicious and ever-growing organizations!” 



President Lopez Obrador told reporters that this “was a very good decision today to defer the designation.”





Complications in the Asylum Claims 


In contrast to what Ebrard said, some legal experts like those at Lawfare write that “the designation of cartels as FTOs would likely have a far more negative impact on the asylum claims of migrants because of their frequent and often coerced interactions with cartels along their journey.” 



This is because, they write “foreign citizens who commit an act that they knew or reasonably should have known afforded material support to a terrorist organization have ‘engaged in terrorist activity’ and are therefore barred from entering the United States and ineligible to claim asylum”, which means any migrant who paid a smuggler to guide them across the border would be considered in ineligible for asylum. 



Additionally, any migrants who were temporarily kidnapped and forced to pay a ransom during their process of attempting to cross, as is unfortunately common, would be considered ineligible for asylum. For a more in-depth explanation, please see this Lawfare post



The practicality and feasibility of actually producing evidence that this “material support” occurred for the thousands of asylum cases being reviewed each year, though, is worth further consideration, and may point back to the designation overall resulting in more asylum claims being granted.





Weighing the Gain vs the Loss from the Designation 


Some legal experts, like those at Lawfare, write that Mexican drug cartels most likely fit the three main criteria required under 8 U.S.C. § 1189. These are: 


  1. Must be a foreign organization


  1. Engage in terrorist activity, with terrorist activity “defined to include the use of explosives or firearms to endanger others, kidnapping to compel actions by another, and assassination.” 


  1. This terrorist activity must threaten “the security of United States nationals or the national security of the United States.” 


So, it appears that lawmakers know that Mexican drug cartels have met the necessary criteria for a while now so it stands to reason that they have not been designated as Foreign Terrorist Organizations (henceforth referred to as FTO) for other reasons, such as the concerns about asylum claims mentioned previously. 



Additionally, lawmakers are likely weighing if US agencies, like the DEA, would lose more of their ability to fight drug cartels than they would gain from the designation.


After an extensive review of the legal gains the designation would have, which can be read in full here, the writers conclude that ultimately:

“Designating cartels as FTOs would provide the federal government with new weapons in the fight against drug traffickers, namely material support charges. Yet a closer look at the implications of an FTO designation shows a certain degree of overlap between the current tools used against cartels and the hypothetical new regime. Most notably, there would be no dramatic change in the sanctions levied against cartels.” 

Now, US agencies have no jurisdiction to make arrests in Mexico, so cooperation with Mexican law enforcement is key to capturing many cartel kingpins who will never step foot in the US. 



The current Mexican presidential administration has publicly stated that they strongly object to the US designating cartels as FTOs, so such a designation would likely tank international relations between the two countries and greatly hinder Mexican law enforcement’s willingness to collaborate with their US counterparts. 



Collaboration goes beyond just big arrests of cartel kingpins. All of the US’s Kingpin Act designations, which levy economic sanctions against cartel associated figures, require significant intelligence gathering, not all of which can be done on the US side of the border. 


Ultimately, it is very hard, as outsiders for us to try to judge the relative loss versus gain that a FTO designation would have on the ability to fight against drug cartels - for both US and Mexican law enforcement. 



Even if you try to defer to legal experts and consider the importance of international relationships, there are still a multitude of other relevant factors that we just aren’t aware of as outsiders. 


We should instead ask the current leadership of the agencies that deal with drug cartels if they are in favor of an FTO designation or not.






Links to documents:

PDF of the Executive Order 


PDF of the Letter


State Government Press Release 


Senators Marshall’s and Scott’s Bill 


Section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. § 1189




Sources: Lawfare, Reuters, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, CNN, Courier Journal


94 comments:

  1. This is just political grandstanding on Abbott's part. He has done everything he can to try to embarass Biden. Abbott is now spending $1 billion a year on border security and it is doing nothing to slow the number of illegal immigrants or drugs.

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    1. Furthermore Dr. Detroit
      Abbott is also doing something about, immigrants crossing Into Texas.
      He is paying to have them bussed, to Martha's vineyard, New York and Washington DC.

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    2. @6:43 I really wanted to include that context, by the way. I just ran out of time.

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    3. 6:49 No problem 👍 get some rest and when you have more time, you write about it.✌️

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    4. Hearst:
      It should be mentioned that DeSantis just included $12 million in the State of Florida's budget to transport immigrants to Massachusettes, to include Martha's vineyard. Now try to make sense out of that for context.

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    5. DeSantis is full of shit. To this very day its illegal migrants who pick the tomatoes, watermelons, oranges, and green peppers throughout the state of Florida. I sure as fuck haven't seen too many Americans in those fields or orchards picking those fruits and vegetables. Add also the sugar cane workers. All of these hard working individuals come from the islands and countries south of the border. With or without American citizenship these jobs will always be done by people who are just here to earn a living.

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    6. Sol:
      Wait until Florida doesn't have immigrants to work in it's fields. You have to remember that agriculture is important to the Florida economy.
      I sent you and Hearst some things. If I told you guys this, I don't think either would have believed it. I don't know if either of you are up to writing a comedy.

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    7. Mr. Detroit, I understand. I'll try to write something about the Texas and Florida bussing and add it in to this article if I get a chance.

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    8. Hearst:
      I don't believe that most of the readers here will even believe these articles. When I read them the only thing that I could think of was that these articles were a hoax. Two politicians bringing stupidity to a whole new level. If Mexicans only knew about the political grandstanding here, they would return to being a one party state.

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    9. Some years back the state of Alabama also came up with the bright idea of trying to get rid of its migrant problem. Many people were convinced their jobs were at stake because of the economic migrants. Someone even came up with the bright idea of using prisoners to do the job those migrants were doing.They actually tried it. But eventually it dawned on the farmers that those convicts couldn't or wouldn't work at the same pace as the migrants. And the residents of Alabama sure weren't falling head over heels trying to fill those positions either. Once that clown Governor saw the overall economic loss to his state he came to his senses and piped the fuck down. They actually even called for the Mexicans to come back. Lol. That's exactly what DeSantis will do when he tires of blowing through all that money like a dumb ass.

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    10. Well f’n said Sol👍🇲🇽

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    11. 8:28 Sol
      Also if we go way back in History 1950s, California, I don't know if other States were doing it... It was called the Brasero Program. Where they would issue permits for Mexicans to come work the fields, as the White people did not want to do, then after a while they left California.

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    12. If you were part of that first wave of Mexican migrants that lived in north Alabama back in the day. You'll remember how beautifully great those days were. Holy shit those Caucasian women fucking loved us! 😆. We were like a special delicacy for them ladies. But yeah the states of Alabama and Georgia have all these chicken processing plants. And guess who's there working away pulling them double shifts making all that cheddar. It's people without the so-called necessary paperwork to be there.

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    13. Sol no te agas pendejo guey. Desantis is not kicking out field workers he is kicking out criminals no vienes con tus pinches mamades de la esquirda guey pon la verdad otra mamada asi y me bengo

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    14. @9:38 no sabes ni escribir bien y piensas que la gente de aqui te va a tomar en serio. jajajaj pobre diablo

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    15. Both Abbott and Desantis Xenophobic POS 💩💩, para lo que importan no valen vrg. Would love to see if Abbott will punish the gun shops that supply guns to the cartels in Tamps. and N.L. but then again he is a joke 🤡

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    16. California has a big problem with the empty fields with little no workers. Nobody wants to cultivate those vegetables and fruits, they are going to waste

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    17. Aloha! I am a farmer and I use no imported workers here in Hawaii or Texas. I used to live in Venezuela, en Maracaibo, and I speak, read and write Spanish. The number one country US farm products are exported to is Mexico. Mexico imports more US food than any other country in the world so we feed your people too! Here in the USA and especially Hawaii, growth in home and community food gardens is also increasing rapidly especially after covid. What we have learned from biden and democrats is US citizens can no longer depend on governments or corporations for food security or anything. The problem with biden is he took an Oath to uphold US laws and that includes immigration and street crimes. He failed. Es lo mismo con el gobierno del Mexico tambien. AMLO me gusta los carteles. Mucho gente soy muerto en Mexico y AMLO hace nada. Todo los carteles soy terroristas en Mexico y los Ustados Unidos. Biden y AMLO soy gigante pendejos!
      Du wirst nichts besitzen! I also speak German ... Aleman.
      Mahalo nui loa!

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    18. 3:38 selling drugs that poison people is not the same as terrorizing them.
      You don't want to die of OD.
      Do not take drugs.
      Simple.
      You of all people being a business man should now it is all about supply and demand.
      No demand. No supply!
      While we are eat it should all mafias be labeled terrorists or just Mexican mafias-loudmouth?

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    19. Kaimu is a foreigner

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    20. @9:44 Aye que lastima princesa! Any mafia breaking the law inside the borders of a country should be jailed or executed. AMLO es un cula que me gusta los carteles y biden tambien. The US mafia is not sending fentanyl and trafficking sex kids to Mexico! The Mexican cartels are being armed and supplied from China and Venezuela and are tied to Iran and Russia. US mafias are not. If anything US mafias are being supplied by the Mexican cartel. Mexico has always been corrupt. I surfed all over Mexico in the 1980s from Ensenada to Acapulco and the federales and policia were always after bribes. The cartels were not that strong then. If anything the cartels learned how to be criminales from los federales y la policia! What is "while we are eat it"? Habla ingles?

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    21. 5:38 En primer lugar no sabes los que dices pendejo.
      Los Americanos no ven carteles. Los Americanos ven color de la piel cuando castigan a grupos. Queire decir que si empiesan a nombrar carteles terrorists todo Mexicano en America sera subjeto a molestias por parte de estos.
      Empeso en El Paso con la massacre de 23 personas en Walmart de parte de un Americano.
      Cartels trafficking kids for sex.
      Y los pinche gringos empesando con Jeffrey Epstein y sus pinches amigos de Hollywood como Tom Hanks que abusan de ninos que?
      Estos cuates Americanos no necesitan cartels para abusar de niños.
      Segundo lugar si tan chingones son los Americanos en todo como dicen ser porke no pueden romper sus addictions de ellomos tambien?
      Y todas las armas que Manda Estamos Unidos a Mexico???
      Y los carteles le enseña la PGR?
      Que te valga madres culero.
      A todas las otras Mafias Americanas tambien les enseñan policias y mercenarios en sus tangos como matar.
      Apoco crees que nomas en Mexico?
      Pinche vato vendido!!!

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    22. @11:46 simon que si gracias por poner a ese pinche Hawaiiano en su lugar. Pinches foreigners want to comment on raza news, bunch of lames need to stay in their lane and go back to their countries of orgin!

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    23. @1:22 lo peor es que es un veneco Esos sudacas siempre con los comentarios negativos contra Mexico y uno ni les dice nada. Como si Venezuela fuera mejor que Mexico!

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    24. @Detroit, you speak in generalities and assumptions and it shows your lack of knowledge from experience in South Texas and Mexico. Abbots money for border security assists poor counties who are completely overwhelmed in their ability to regulate crime, processing, and identification of the thousands of people traveling through border counties everyday. Car chases, wrecks, property destruction, stolen vehicles, etc are keeping these small county sheriffs from policing other crime. i do not blame anyone escaping persecution to seek a better life, but you also have to address concerns of property, the safety of immigrants etc.and identifying who comes across. if you think an open border is the right path forward ,frankly you should read a book.

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  2. So in theory designating cartels as terrorist organizations is a huge thing that opens up a lot of new possibilities for the US government. But am I correct to think that this is more for show than for actual impact?

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    1. I wrote an entire article answering this?

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    2. I should've worded it clearer and differently:

      Will this entice other states or the federal government to reconsider their stance on foreign criminal organizations and have impact on their decisionmaking?

      This question is already answered for Mexico, since as you wrote about the Mexican government absolutely not sharing Texas' stance: "The current Mexican presidential administration has publicly stated that they strongly object to the US designating cartels as FTOs, so such a designation would likely tank international relations between the two countries and greatly hinder Mexican law enforcement’s willingness to collaborate with their US counterparts."

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    3. Oh, gotcha. Sorry.

      I hope that other US states and the federal government would ask the relevant departments and agencies if they want cartels to be designated as FTOs or not, and listen to their answer. But I know that's not how politics works.

      A public comment on the issue from the head of certain agencies right now would really clarify the issue, you know? Let people know if they think it would help or if it's all a game of optics, and it would actually hinder their abilities.

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    4. Racist shit!
      How come Abbott or the State of Texas never designated or bothered to consider designating other mafias as terrorists?
      Fucking former POTUS also of Abbotts party already claimed all people from the southern border as "rapists, murderers and thief's".
      What makes us think Abbott is not motivated by his politics?
      Just because he claims to bearried to a Hispanic woman?

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    5. 7:35
      Think about it, Abbott is using the term Terrorist, as he got it from when Mr.T used it. Could be propaganda only, to make the Republicans look good.

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    6. 8:04 Propaganda or not shortly after T used these terms mentioned and Abbott himself calling migrants "invasion" some POS Caucasian guy shot up a Walmart in El Paso TX and killed 23 people. All but one of those Hispanic.
      Using such words is what is fueling Texas racism at the cost of Hispanics being targeted. This is how Republicans managed to rewrite the Texas Congressional district maps in order and discriminated directly against the Hispanic population.
      You have to live in Texas to see how subtle Texas is with its racism although these word play is not so subtle.

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    7. 7:05 I mean, AMLO may be against America designating cartels as foreign terrorist organizations but in reality; I was under the impression that Mexico has already been calling them terrorists for years.

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    8. All those square jaw sheriffs want is power and money, and they will get it like Lupe Treviño,
      From one cartel or another.
      Abbott BS is like a warning to cartels to submit $$$, he needs all the money he can grab to run fo' president of the US of A like other candidate wannabes from the past, from Florida and Tejas

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    9. 9:08 Nowdays anything or anyone can be labeled as terrorist.

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    10. Racist? God you never stop with that bs. Shut up already.

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  3. Looks like he’s trying to pave the way to become the new Republican President of the United States, by showing the American people he’s doing something to tackle domestic issues. I think by designating them as terrorist organizations it’ll create an unwanted crisis. Could they implement Marshall law in impoverished communities here in the United States that help these cartel get money. The war on drugs has failed miserably, Republicans just adding more fire to the flame.

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    1. Abbott mentality being Republican, has to do things to downgrade the Democratic President, he sure better have good moves or he will make the Republicans look bad.
      What really stood out in the January 6 Fiasco, led by ex-president T. Is that even though 5 persons died that day, The Republicans kept thier mouth shut, even though Mr. T. was in the wrong.
      Abbott had went to Uvalde school Massacre, conference, his speech backfired, when Beto confronted on the handling, all Abbott can do is bite his touge.

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    2. Otro mama vergas hijo e puta ya calate lefty

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    3. 9:39 are you a Log Cabin Republican Libertarian?
      How is the Bohemian Grove thing going?
      Don't forget to clean your airport stall when you are done "wrestling" young guys, Jim Jordan and Lindsey Graham can help ya...

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    4. Nobody traffics more weapons than obama did! https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/28/us-weapons-exports-increased-43-under-obama/98516258/

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  4. Another earthquake in Mexico.
    Mexico City.

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    1. Mexico can't get a break. I read about the earthquake that happened this morning in Michoacan. I didn't hear that Mexico City got hit.

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    2. 8:19 According to some exaggeriatric exaggerationistas mexico's earthquakes are messages from GOD and punishments for mexicans loving of cartels and their corridos and worst of all AMLO.

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    3. Sir:
      You are repeating yourself. You already said that when you posted as anonymous or don't you remember. Maybe your brain is fried.

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    4. 819 yes Michoacan Earth quake on the 19th. Today 22nd Mexico City 1:19 am

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    5. 11:29 when? Need date and hour, and report name?
      I don't remember what happened two minutes ago...

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  5. Terrorist organization leaders are usually dealt with on the spot and not extradited to the US..Jihadi John, Ayman al-Zawahiri, Abu al-Baghdadi, Hakimullah Mehsud, Qari Hussain amongst others would be good examples.

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    1. But again, shouldn't the first question be: is that something that the relevant agencies and departments even want to be able to do?

      Or have they found that keeping cartel leaders as prisoners more valuable in the long run because they will trade information on other cartel leaders for a shorter sentence?

      Nice name, by the way. Devil's snare.

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    2. Maybe they should be force-fed jimsonweed..

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    3. @9:24 In traditional Aztec fashion

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  6. Abbott has an election coming up, it’s all smoke and mirrors

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    1. 837 Some one was right, about it being propaganda, election coming like you said, I am voting for Beto O'Rourke
      Beto in Spanish means Alberto.

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    2. De Sir it's Alberto

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    3. He lists his name as Robert. He is raising money to run for governor of Texas. You can give to his campaign at betoorourke.com.

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    4. RoBerto, AlBerto, AdalBerto, HumBerto etcétera = Beto

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    5. Humberto is famous for being "Bert", el Bertie Boy de Cuagüila

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    6. Beto is Irish , so it's Robert

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  7. Haven’t certain Colombian paramemilitary groups been considered terrorists for decades though 🤔 If the hammer hasn’t come down on them yet why would that make a difference here?

    Also I feel like we really need to find a new word to use besides terrorism since that refers basically to political or ideological-based violence but I think what some of the cartels do is even worse than or at least distinct from “terrorism”.

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    1. https://www.state.gov/revocation-of-the-terrorist-designations-of-the-revolutionary-armed-forces-of-colombia-farc-and-additional-terrorist-designations/

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    2. "racist shit" hilarious whining ..I wish it was racist,get tough with these crying fuckers

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    3. 10:55 just like American whining whenever precios white folk OD because of shit they willingly consumed.
      Blaming cartels for their own appetite for drugs!

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    4. 11:04 people OD from counterfeit drugs trying to save a buck by going down to Mexico to get they're meds small brain

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    5. 11:17 yet people still go down to Mexico where these so called terrorists are for vacations even.
      Seems like Mexico and it's people are only good for American travel where for the most part they are safe but once these Mexicans want to come into the U.S. they are labeled "criminals, thief's, rapists" and now once these same Americans are back home they label Mexican cartels terrorist organizations for the sake of political power???

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    6. Ok mexican bigot... how about the mexicans crying about the white people moving in to mexico and changing " there " culture? Saying they should leave... same thing you hipocrit. You're just as racist as the people ypu are crying about.

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  8. Totally ridiculous, the entire idea and this proclamation, not to mention aside from moving meth through Laredo and Juarez, CJNG isn’t really in the Texas border area

    No mention of the remnants of CDG and Zetas which are way more prominent in the region, and closer adhere to “terrorist” tactics, like the gunfights in Moros and Reynosa

    So are addicts going to be considered materially supported terrorism are the families of addicts going to be charged for harboring terrorists

    The idea is belligerence defined.

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    1. Of course addicts being designated a mental disease will never be touched by the U.S government.
      It's easier to blame everyone else for this countries addiction or blame mental crap than take responsibility as the world's largest consumer of illegal drugs.

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    2. @11:11 Next they'll be blaming colombians and peruvians for farming coca in the first place. LMAO

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    3. Just for the sake of clarity, there is this whole layer of complexity around "materially supporting a terrorist group" that I didn't get into but the government must "prove that the person should have reasonably known that their smuggling payment would provide support to a terrorist group."

      The Lawfare post goes on to say that this could be proven in most cases of migrants who pay for a guide or a ransom payment, so I excluded those details.

      But, all of this to say, no, I don't think addicts or their families would be considered to be materially supporting but I understand your larger point, J.

      I think Abbott didn't name Zetas/Golfos because they weren't named by the DEA as one of the main suppliers of fentanyl into the US. Even though both groups do smuggle it.

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    4. At J. CJNG is definitely on the route through Texas. Juarez and Nuevo Laredo is a sure bet. It's not just the dominating cartel of the region that trafficks through those entry points. Many others do too or have done so like the Beltrán Leyva (La Barbie had a route through Nuevo Laredo for a big client in Memphis. La Familia Michoacana's boss El Tisico was a good friend of Osiel Cardenas and entered Texas through Reynosa. Dozens of Durango and Michoacán narco have always used these routes. The rules change when you're exporting. Like someone on here said it can be very free agent. Selling in the national market is a different story as you probably know already

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  9. All the bleeding hearts and false claimers getting hysterical,fuckin sheep,all together now,give yourselves a hug,this world is getting phonier by the minute

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  10. Con que no entren tropas gringas a Mexico, pueden hacer lo que se les de la regalada gana.

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  11. Delta Force ,Devgru CIA Ground Branch VS Gente Nueva, Talibanes and Antrax !!
    My money on the Sicarios of CDS

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  12. SIR should also be designated as such

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    1. 12:58 a mi me la please, pero no tenga miedo, te va a gustar.

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    2. he should be arrested for impersonating Sicaro 006

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  13. half of the world should name USA a terrorist estate .

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  14. Since Mexico is begging for help, I guess Abbott will have to clean up your mess

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    1. AMLO nor Mexico asked to be helped. Abbott just declared them terrorist because the elections are coming up, the cartels have been exporting fentanyl for years, and not just CJNG and CDS

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    2. Begging for help?, not even close to that. Instead they requested their agencies to stay out of Mexico.

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  15. Please don't mess up Mexico like Afghanistan. Stay in AS of A gringos. Don't you dare go and destroy Mexico

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    1. Lol it's already destroyed. the cartels are responsible for that but keep going

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  16. Bitching around to cover up his failed politics. Texans are so easy minded, i love it. Jajaja

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  17. I’m the 2nd and 3rd picture is the lady the only Latin or Hispanic in the picture? Everyone else is a gabacho.

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  18. When it’s all said and done grandstanding aside unless the US GOVERNMENT designates them a terrorist organization then they aren’t actually a terrorist organization. No money or resources will be directed towards that. And in America that’s what matters. Getting resources directed towards something is only was to stop it. Al a Patriot Act after 9/11 to go after Bin Laden.

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  19. As was found out during the pandemic and the storming of the Capitol,Republicans are frauds.

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  20. Without drugs a lot of people would be out of jobs aside from LEO's, so this legislation is all bark no bite.

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  21. Southern states should leave the union. Its clear our federal government does not care about the problem to the south. Cartels have done more harm to the us than any middle eastern country yet the best they do is tell us say no to drugs. Fuck that. Invade mexico with the intent of killing every cartel until they give up. Start drone striking their asses.

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