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Monday, April 13, 2015

Los Cuinis-CJNG: Worlds Most Wealthy Drug Trafficking Organization

Lucio R. Borderland Beat translated and republished from Proceso 


Note: following the Proceso article is the full DEA press release about Los  Cuinis and CJNG.

According to Proceso, for the US government there is no doubt that Los Cuinis cartel is the Mexican drug trafficking organization with the most  economic power in the world,  well above the Sinaloa Cartel.

"I know it sounds unbelievable, but Los Cuinis are the world's richest drug traffickers," says a senior official of the US Drug Administration (DEA), who requested anonymity to speak about a subject whose investigation is ongoing in Mexico and the United States.

"Moreover," he adds, "I can tell you that last February 28th,  Mexican authorities unwittingly arrested the world's richest narco".  he was referring to  Abigael González Valencia, El Cuini.

The trafficker was arrested  in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, by a joint operation of the Navy, Federal Police and the Attorney General's Office.

US authorities accept that it is impossible to determine the amount of profits accumulated by Los Cuinis and its leader, but says  that it is in the billions of dollars annually.

“Officials” from various branches of the national security of the United States, confirm that  Los  Cuinis far exceeds the Sinaloa Cartel in net profits for the international traffic of narcotics.

Los Cuinis, an organization founded by El Cuini, "is the almost absolute master of the European and Asian drug market," this according to analysis and intelligence investigations of several US federal agencies, which placed this criminal group as an "associate “of Cartel Jalisco New Generation (CJNG), identifying them as one and the same mafia. (Cuinis from the word cuñado, or brother-in-law)

"The Cuini and siblings (five) are richer because they are drug dealers who sell more cocaine and methamphetamine in Europe and European authorities have failed to confiscate almost no money or drugs. Meaning, their (bottom line) profits could be close to one hundred percent," says DEA official. 

Alternative Markets

Abigael González Valencia is unique.  

"He is a shrewd drug dealer. With CJNG (Mencho) he designed a strategy different from traditional drug trafficking, for example the Sinaloa Cartel, explains one of the officials consulted and who, like his colleague from the DEA and the others interviewed, asked that his identity not be disclosed or the federal agency to which he belongs.


"The Cuini focused on  partnering with drug traffickers and narco-insurgents of Colombia and other South American countries to sell cocaine and other drugs in Europe, without being involved with  the market of the United States. That made a big difference in terms of profits earned, "said the official.

According to official documents reviewed by Proceso for this report, Los Cuinis and CJNG for almost a decade chose not to mess with the US market.


In the midst of the war unleashed drug by Felipe Calderón, El Cuini and his brother-in-law  Nemesio Oseguera Cárdenas, “El Mencho,” (leader CJNG), allied with South American drug traffickers to get cocaine in bulk for Europe markets, while the Sinaloa cartel, the Juárez and Gulf and Los Zetas, La Familia Michoacana and others fought with blood and fire for  routes into the United States.

"El Cuini” and “El Mencho”, understood that there was much more risk of loss, in every way, if attempting to compete with other cartels for the US market," said another of the officials interviewed.

Yet the DEA does not refute its position that the Sinaloa Cartel is the most powerful Mexican criminal organization and most feared on the planet: The Cuinis are wealthier because they did not compete with El Mayo Zambada or with El Chapo Guzman for the US market and they  crossed arms from Europe and Asia.

"The Sinaloa Cartel is the one that dominates the US market and is the majority owner of the plaza and drug trafficking corridors of Mexico. It is also has  the most power of intimidation by its  army of assassins, along with its sophisticated and modern arsenal and its broad arm of corruption, "says DEA official.

The Cuinis, unlike any other Mexican cartel and according to official US documents about the organization", do not use violence thereby avoiding attention and are almost impenetrable in its command structure" .

"It's very difficult to infiltrate the command of Los Cuinis,  they are very guarded and extremely careful," accepts the DEA official.

Washington describes  Los Cuinis and CJNG as two organizations that are a "family empire”  and owners of countless businesses created exclusively to launder money. "Its main investments are concentrated in the real estate sector."

Other officials interviewed, who has devoted many years of his career to investigate and characterize Los Cuinis and CJNG: 
"They are the major methamphetamine trafficking organizations in Canada and Europe, the biggest traffickers of chemical precursors Asia and Europe to Mexico and possibly the best positioned for cocaine trafficking worldwide ".
The DEA emphasizes that "it’s the  cartel of Mexico who is better connected abroad" And has an association with the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia and therefore "is the number one supplier of cocaine to Mexico, from Colombia, Ecuador and Peru".

As an example, the DEA agent reminds the reporter that;  "a few years ago, Japan confiscated from the organization led by El Cuini,  the largest amount of methamphetamine ever recorded in Asia: more than 200 kilograms." (441 lbs)

Another idiosyncrasy of El Cuini "is that he is very attached to the family," according to the research findings of the US government.

The top leadership of Los Cuinis and CJNG is formed by blood.   Abigael and five of his brothers command the criminal group; Additionally, El Cuini’s sister is the wife of El Mencho.
TODAY THEY OCCUPY OVER HALF

Extraditable

Abigael González Valencia was arrested on May 2, 1996 in the San Diego, California. He was charged with six counts related to the manufacture of narcotics (methamphetamine) and conspiracy to distribute.

The court case number 1: 96-cr-05113-AWI-6, dated May 9, 1996 and filed with the Federal Court for the Eastern District of California, indicates that on November 22nd of that year, El Cuini was released after posting 80,000 dollar bail.

He was ordered to appear in court on April 28, 1997.

He skipped bail and fled south of the border.

"Once released, El Cuini returned to Mexico," admits the DEA official.

Since then he is a fugitive from US justice, therefore, now under the custody of the Mexican government, his extradition would be a mere bureaucratic procedure.

Cuini bought the Zeta Horses 

Among the documents of the US government on El Cuini remarkable a fact.

Jose Trevino Morales, brother of the leaders of Los Zetas (Michelangelo, Z-40, and Omar, Z-42), was arrested by the FBI on June 12, 2012 in Lexington, Oklahoma, accused of being the head of a network laundering drug money through  breeding racehorses.

In November 2012 the US government auctioned over 300 horses confiscated from Treviño Morales in Oklahoma; the finest and  the most expensive  was the quarter mile Dash of Sweet Heat, which sold at $1 million.  (at left)

(Lucio: Records contradict this claim, at least for the purchase of Sweet Heat.  The horse was sold for 1 Million  to Juliana Holts.  She and her husband are majority owners of the San Antonio Spurs)

"Several of the finest horses they took from Jose Trevino and were auctioned, and were purchased for El Cuini through intermediaries" reveals the DEA official.

"Some of these horses are now running in the Santa Anita Racetrack in San Jose, California (actually it is in Southern California in the city Arcadia)," the official, who refused to give more details about it because that information is integrated in an ongoing investigation and according to him, will soon come to an end.

Blacklisted

Along with the Mencho, El Cuini in recent years traveled frequently to Europe, especially to Holland, Spain, Germany, France and Belgium. "In Las Ramblas they own businesses, therefore would visit often." said one of the US officials.

None of the interviewees dare to make an estimate of fortune of el Cuini, the siblings or El Mencho.
But agree they are considered "the richest of Mexico drug traffickers."

On Wednesday the 8th, the Office for Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) of the Department of the Treasury of the United States, announced the names organizations of the most significant drug as Los Cuinis and CJNG and the Obama administration subjected them to financial penalties, as set out in the Kingpin Act.

El Cuini and El Mencho joined the list of the most significant drug traffickers to the United States, so the Treasury Department ordered the confiscation of their goods and the freezing of bank accounts they had in the United States or in places under the jurisdiction of same.

John E. Smith, Acting Director of OFAC, explained that lately in Mexico is a "trend of erosion" between traditional cartels, with the emergence of new organizations such as Los Cuinis and CJNG.

"These two organizations have rapidly expanded their criminal empire through the use of violence and corruption. Are now placed among the most powerful drug trafficking organizations in Mexico", concluded Smith to the media.

The calculation of the OFAC is that it was about five years ago the CJNG rose from the ashes of what was Milenio Cartel.  However, officials interviewed by this correspondent, and particularly the DEA rejected that theory and show that Los Cuinis and CJNG, appeared almost immediately after El Cuini returned to Jalisco after fleeing California in 1997.

El Mencho was arrested in the US in 1994 and later sentenced to three years in prison.

The leader of CJNG was convicted for crimes of conspiracy to distribute heroin. After serving his sentence, El Mencho was released and immediately returned to Mexico to resume its activities in the trafficking of drugs. Already connected in Jalisco, he focused on traffic to the European market under the strategy of his brother-in-law



Here is the full DEA press release from last Wednesday, with respect to CJNG and Los Cuinis


Action Targets CJNG and Los Cuinis, Drug Trafficking Organizations that Rank Among the Most Powerful Cartels in Mexico

WASHINGTON – Today, the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) designated two Mexican narcotics trafficking organizations, the Cartel de Jalisco Nueva Generacion (CJNG) and the Los Cuinis Drug Trafficking Organization (DTO), as Specially Designated Narcotics Traffickers pursuant to the Foreign Narcotics Kingpin Designation Act (Kingpin Act).  OFAC also today designated two Mexican nationals, Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes and Abigael Gonzalez Valencia, who are leaders of CJNG and the Los Cuinis DTO, respectively.  These drug cartels and their leaders play significant roles in international narcotics trafficking.  As a result of today’s action, all assets of these entities and individuals that are based in the United States or in the control of U.S. persons are frozen, and U.S. persons are generally prohibited from engaging in transactions with them.

“In recent years, we have seen a rising trend in the erosion of historically powerful cartels alongside the emergence of new drug trafficking organizations like CJNG and its close ally Los Cuinis DTO.  These two organizations have rapidly expanded their criminal empire in recent years through the use of violence and corruption.  

They now rank among the most powerful drug trafficking organizations in Mexico,” said John E. Smith, Acting Director of OFAC.  “Today’s action demonstrates our determination to reverse this trend and to significantly disrupt the activities of their leaders.”

Today’s designation was taken in close coordination with the Los Angeles Field Division of the Drug Enforcement Administration and is part of a larger effort by the Treasury Department to collaborate with Mexican authorities in the sanctioning of Mexican drug trafficking organizations.

CJNG emerged approximately five years ago from the remnants of the Milenio Cartel, which was dismantled following the capture of its designated leader, Armando Valencia Cornelio, and his successors.  CJNG has expanded beyond Jalisco to other Mexican states, including Michoacan and Colima. 

CJNG has also further developed its ties to other criminal organizations around the world, including in the United States, Latin America, Africa, Europe, and Asia.  Much of this expansion has impacted rival DTOs, including designated entities Los Caballeros Templarios and Los Zetas, by taking away their territory and market share, which has resulted in violent confrontations with CJNG and other DTOs.  With additional territory, CJNG has been able to increase its drug trafficking, wealth, and influence.       

Nemesio (also known as Ruben and “Mencho”) Oseguera Cervantes is the leader of CJNG and has been significantly involved in drug trafficking activities since the 1990s.  He was convicted of conspiracy to distribute heroin in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California in 1994 and served nearly three years in prison.  Following his release from custody, Oseguera Cervantes returned to Mexico and reengaged in drug trafficking activity. 

The Los Cuinis DTO first arose in the 1990s as a faction of the Milenio Cartel and is engaged in cocaine and methamphetamine trafficking.  The close alliance between CJNG and the Los Cuinis DTO is due not only to their origins in the Milenio Cartel but also because the leader of the Los Cuinis DTO, Abigael Gonzalez Valencia, is the brother-in-law of Oseguera Cervantes.  Gonzalez Valencia has also been significantly involved in drug trafficking since the 1990s, when he was involved in methamphetamine trafficking.  Mexican authorities captured Gonzalez Valencia in Mexico in late February 2015.  

In March 2014, a grand jury in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia indicted Oseguera Cervantes and Gonzalez Valencia on the charge of being the principal leaders of a Continuing Criminal Enterprise, among other crimes.


Since June 2000, more than 1,700 entities and individuals have been named pursuant to the Kingpin Act for their role in international narcotics trafficking. Penalties for violations of the Kingpin Act range from civil penalties of up to $1.075 million per violation to more severe criminal penalties. Criminal penalties for corporate officers may include up to 30 years in prison and fines of up to $5 million.  Criminal fines for corporations may reach $10 million.  Other individuals could face up to 10 years in prison and fines pursuant to Title 18 of the United States Code for criminal violations of the Kingpin Act.

178 comments:

  1. Why not gather a few million of those blood soacked benjamins and buy a mansion in Thailand and live life spending lots of blood money? Or is the power too enticing...

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    1. You can retire but if you've made a lot of enemies (which most cartel members have) you better pray you can still have some sort of protection.

      What do you think your enemies are going to do when they find out you "retired," and are living in Thailand? Think they'll care?

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    2. I agree with 9:16.

      BTW it is not that easy to just buy a mansion in Thailand. You have to be a native to actually be allowed to own land there. And if you have made so many enemies and you've been investigated that extensively, it doesn't really matter where you go anymore.

      Saludos a todos los que estan en BB.
      Un amigo de Holanda y Alemania

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    3. You get extradited to the US from Thailand. That is what happened to Viktor Bout, the Russian arms dealer

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    4. Hey, nobody extradited Adnan khashoggi for trafficking weapons or drugs in and out the US, not even for the money laundering on the US, the cayman Islands, bcci, or on his "yatch"...
      --By the way, emilio azcarraga's "yatch" 250 ft long "the TV" , is it still over there somewhere on the south of Asia on the pacific ocean? Said to have cost only about 180 million dollarzzz, no wonder TELEVISA has to do their own teleton and cocaine smugglin' to make ends meet, but there is no cacaine on the thailands !?!?!?!
      --If the pinchis cuinis and mencho were half europians, nobodee would be looking for them or through their knock off Louis Vuitton luggage...
      --How about Forbes getting scooped on the demonizing of the cuinis billions

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    5. Fuck all this shit!! What happened to the news in michoacan??? I demand to know what happnened to el pitufu damn it!!!!

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    6. 10:11am

      Cuinis and Mencho are part european, in a sense, since they have european surnames (as the majority of Mexicans do) originating from Spain. I know what you meant tho I just felt a bit smart aleckey.

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    7. Money talks in Thailand and South East Asia, like it does in most of the world. But if a multi-millionaire trafficker wanted to disappear in Thailand, I can guarantee it wouldn't be too difficult, the people protecting you would be the same people who would prevent you being extradited as long as you kept the money flowing

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    8. My friend got murdered in Thailand and his killer (also from England) paid 12,000 pound, so about 18,000 dollars and he was acquitted and allowed to return to england without any charge when he got back

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  2. That explains why menchito got out of jail
    They are kicking ass and taking names in Mexico sorry if i offend cds nutthuggers or any others im just going by what are facts

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    1. Hahahahahahalololololololol i love the way the U.S government works and peole believe it lol

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    2. Dont believe half of what the media says.
      They are always half and half..

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    3. If you know the facts you would know its only part true not evrything you read online is the real. Sorry i do not want to offend any cartel nutthuggers!!!

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    4. Remember el mayo and azul dont like being on top ....second is best ...att el azul esparragoza

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    5. The MSM is always in on the chayote, grabbing with all the fingers and teeth...
      --maybe, really, it is time to give the mencho and cuinis a one good shakedown for all the marbles...
      --El PRI really wants it all again...

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  3. this will take me a while to get through it all. great effort. thanks

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  4. Looks like the European police are just as corrupt if not more then Mexico's law enforcement. At least Mexico confiscates a little something but knowingly steal far more. But the European "authorities have failed to confiscate almost no money or drugs. Meaning, their (bottom line) profits could be close to one hundred percent," says DEA official. Fucking sad everyone does not want it stopped, it is just a show and the rich get richer and those in their way die. Europe is always in the news with these gang capos running cities and all and the police are scared to do anything. $$$$$$$$$$$$$

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    1. Fucking sad ? It's not sad when they make money off the ciggs you smoke with that 40 of king cobra

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    2. The reason it gets in from Europe with less seizures is cos it goes over on huge boats from Venezuela and the likes and hits West Africa which has non existent border patrols and people can be paid off with next to nothing. Once it's there it can get to Italy, Spain or Holland without any effort. Then into the uk from northern france where the border force is concentrating on immigrants and al qaeda/isis

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  5. sinaloa nuthuggers are not going to like this!! lol

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    1. Jalisco nuthuggers are going to like this ;)

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    2. Setas will not like this...
      --they could not even hold onto the 'zzzz's while asleep!

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    3. Both organizations splinntered frm CDS!.. Mfs need 2 do their research b4 commentin!.. Sinaloa Federation still runs Mexico!.. Fact

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    4. 12:50 lol so predictable. I knew you would get mad! lol

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  6. Supposedly the Sinaloa cartel made a new cartel called Los Aliados to clean up jalisco to fight off cjng they releases a video

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    1. I agree too late cds has enough problems the just hoping to keep what they already have

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    2. They tried but not good enough for don mencho

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    3. Los aliados came up like 2 years ago where have you been. Most of them are either dead, jumped ship, or when back with cds.

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    4. The video is the one where the dude is hung upside down between a ladder and beheaded and cut up while one guy is fuckin round to the background music. Los Aliados were the cartel

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    5. 11:05 dumb that video came from blo.

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  7. I can attest to at least the European market having good control by cuinis. It was enigmatic as to why there was not much reporting on the group before this in the states. Sinaloa and Zetas still operate in Europe but for certain drugs they have not been king for a few years.

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  8. These articles appear so often, "This group is richer thsn this group" There is so much involved in determining these groups actual cash flow. Like the losses faced when a shipment of drugs is confiscated on the US side. That is not always disclosed. So it is safe to say no one really knows who has what as there is no real paper trail to follow. That is the point of these cartels to be discrete when operating.

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    1. Bingo. No LE agency in the world knows the truth. They have no idea of the true financials.

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    2. Intelligence agencies are up front saying there is no way to know the wealth of cartels precisely. But they can gage it pretty well by identifying holdings, investments and estimation of product trafficked.

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    3. But they rarely trafficked to the us, and nearly no seizures in both Europe & Asia so it's kinda of safe to say they were the most profitable cartel in mexico.

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  9. Los cuinis brothers are from apatzingan michoacan and el mencho from aguililla michoacan they were the ones that financed most of the autodefensas in michoacan to destroy the caballeros templarios and or la familia michoacana , los cuinis and el mencho hate them because la familia kicked them out michoacan when they belonged to cartel del milenio this cartel del milenio were based in michoacan leaded by the valencia brothers but years after they were kicked out of michoacan by la familia and they took refuge in jalisco state lobo valencia the remaining leader at the time of the milenio cartel decided to joint forces with la familia michoacana the same cartel that kicked them out of michoacan , los cuinis and mencho did not like this and they decided to splite from the milenio cartel forming cjng

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    1. yea, and now they want their own plaza in tijuana so chapo snitched on them to the d.e.a hatter!

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    2. El mencho es de Uruapan compa but youre right on the spot

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    3. Mencho is from El naranjo de chila, vale.

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    4. Nacido en michoacan y criado en jalisco! Vamos con todo vale pura gente del señor de los gallos

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    5. Naranjo de chila is in aguililla municipality thats why i said he is from agulilla michoacan

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  10. These ppl are old news ..they had corridos since early 90s

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    1. such an insightful comment. I am relieved I did not pass it by.
      thank you almighty contributor

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    2. What corridos?

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    3. Los orijinales de san juan sing corridos of el cuini. You tube "el cuini de michoacan" Los orijinales de san juan they have various corridos.

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    4. ALSO LOS ZAFIROS DEL NORTE

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    5. LOS ZAFIROS DEL NORTE ALSO PLAY SOME OFF THERE CORRIDOS

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  11. Anyone know anything about this video floating around? It's about the hacker group Anonymous and they are threatening the Zetas cartel. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2lretm_anonymous-amenaza-al-cartel-de-los-zetas-narco_news

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    1. Zetas kidnapped anonymous member in Veracruz. He was released after Anonymous threatened to release info on who in the government was on the zetas payroll.

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  12. So this proves it: Michoacanos are the best drug dealers and sinaloenses are the most tacky dressers....chihuahua vatos are femicidas....and the rest, se la pelan a michoacan

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    1. Michocan tiene a los capos mas conocidos del mundo como caro quintero,amado carrillo,los arellano, chapo,mayo ,yup michocan the best drug lords

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    2. Not defending Sinaloans, but lets be honest here. But 90% of the biggest names and the most powerful narcos of their times have been Sinaloense. Michoacan is not even close. Felix Gallardo, Caro Quintero, Fonseca Carrillo, Esparragoza Moreno, Carrillo Fuente, Palma Salazar, Arellano Felix, Guzman Loera, Zambada Garcia, Beltran Leyva are all from Sinaloa. About the tackiness, Sinaloenses are tacky, but Michoacanos are even more.

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    3. Mi lindo estado MICHOACAN, como la carga de pelada como siempre

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    4. @12:45 you are right. And I'm not from Sinaloa either and they are tacky but michoacanos take the trophy for tackiness

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    5. Efficiency in the drug trades includes not being known...for any of it as long as possible...
      I have never been a fan of the mas pendejo sport in the word this side of lacrosse, but all the interest on soccer mexico/europe and players trades with the uropean of players and money under any excuse of maybe this year we get a Copa or sompim' sure helps the logistics of moving meth and material, I mean men and material...

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    6. Are you kidding? Sinaloa guys dress like badasses! The plaid shirt, jeans, cowboy boots and the hat. It looks awesome just not the new guys posting pics of themselves wearing tight suits on Instagram.

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    7. The game is to make money, and at the moment this guys are winning. There have been other capos before them but these guys are on top as we speek. I don't think it will last long though, they messed with the government and once you do it's over. That's how Escobar, Tuta and others have fallen. real

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    8. Thanks everyone for your responses....it's been entertaining....what I really believe though, is that you got dudes with no class from every state in mexico, and you got dudes with class from every state. I don't care whose up or down beyond the entertainment value of the soap opera. Like some other poster said, it best,"These guys (cartels) ain't even giving you a tortilla!"

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    9. Told you it was going like BDN,idiot Mexicans arguing and cursing about who has the biggest and best drug capo.

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  13. Chivis, where are yo???

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    1. Present and accounted for....

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    2. http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldezamora/notas/n3766312.htm.

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    3. "Right arm". Todo bajo control!? K.O.

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    4. I don't want to be a grammar police...but damm there were alot on this article.

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    5. 12.44
      Nah bruh,no one bit that hook

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  14. I think the media has really been hyphing these guys up to much , probably cuz they chingar de govierno , or who knows but the case is they been trying to put them on the spotlight for people to know em, for some reason an its not for the power because every cartel has it in theyre territory

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  15. If the DEA knows what's cartels net worth and all that, how come they don't know where the narcos are at???

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    1. Because their full of lies and exaggeration.One word''Iraq''

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    2. They are not full of lies!.. The DEA & CIA have been involved in drug trafficking for decades!.. How else u think they know how much dope is bein sold, how much money is bein made, & who sellin the dope!.. Use common sense!.. U only knw if u are involved!.. Duh

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    3. The cartels all keep naively using electronic media, that all can be tracked, it all has been cracked (that kind of thing always only gets acknowledged - and truly becomes common knowledge - long afterwards. For real, there is no safe or secure way to either use computers (even if you heavily encrypt, it always still has that IP address, it is the point where the 'connection' becomes real. And 2g data - even 4g, or lte mobile devices use 2g connections for talk, 3g as well, them cell phones all can be tapped, by wire and just by picking up the signal from the air, and they can network-wise be pinpointed to location with astonishing precision, no need for the location function on the phone itself, it can be easily triangulated even from cars for instance. It is how Chapo got caught (his bodyguards had the same phone on, that the Chap called from his sewage tunnel) though dependent on who you called before, even switching and throwing devices won't work of you call the same number from a new thing you intend to dispose, it is how the violent Beltran guy got found, even using it irregularly lime only between 5 and 6 pm or only switching on the phone for that one call will not escape the highly intelligent computer programmes that are analysing ALL traffic. Then there still is something that's actually real although it only seems to star in unlikely TV productions, and that is voice (patterns, sound levels, choice of words or way to speak, ...) that actually can pick many a guy out of ten million conversations that are taking place at the same time, and for instance ALL email traffic coming from the whole of Europe and is hinterlands gets a copy made of that is sent directly to all that secret American services via its own data hub (cables are simply split and signal is at that very same location boosted to double the signal strength, or is not even secret although probably highly unconstitutional, they in Holland for instance have their own main data hub centre where all ocean floor glass fibre cables get tapped, it is near the main Heineken beer plants near the (eastern) Dutch coast line, those cables carry signal for 600 million connections, I doubt Dutch law would provide any above-board legislation to facilitate a foreign nation doing so. It off course is primarily intended to help ensure safety, not for something as narrow-minded, discutabele and subjective as the fight against some stereotypically illegalized substance, like Heroin with its active ingredient Morphine, also similarly prescribed legally about a billion times a year, but fought with deadly violence and consequences when a bunch of amateurs 'downloaded try to provide it) Ya see, there is no honesty, no ethics or morality, or is the big Haves suppressing the poor and the dumb violent forces carrying out their unfair bids. About electronics, what you expect when using THEIR networks? It was reason why it took them almost 30 years to find that violent monster of a Toto Riina, killer of several judges, killer that used bombs and all kinds of fire power and mechanical methods but forcedly stuck to a most humble life style - because he never used modern tech. And he walked around and lived in the very town centre overthere. It also is why The OLD Mayo had proven so impossible to locate..

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    4. A bit confusing but I see your point and I like how you called Arturo "the violent Beltran guy" lol

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    5. Did he just say that people who use electronic devices get tracked and those who don't, don't, in like a thousand sentences?

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    6. 3:05 uh, what...?I am ashamed of you slowpoke, how in the hell are we going to get these techies in line? They work with the enemy, the enemy can pay them, we can't, and assange or snowden are not here to help

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    7. He smoking that cuinis dope!! On one!!

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  16. Michoacanos doing it big.

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  17. Don't believe the bs. These guys are very powerful. However, the government is now shifting gears away from cds. So what you are seeing is government regualation. It's their turn to catch the heat. Getting too big. Uncle Sam wants their cut, even though the U.S. has their hands in it up to their neck. Buy it's cuinis turn.


    Hop hop hop, skipping down the bunny trail

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    1. The US and PRIeto (PRI +peña nieto) trying to save mexico, even the planted to be murdered polesia help their quest for excuses to invade mexico, they even have the teiboleras ready...

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  18. Watch "LOS ZAFIROS DEL NORTE-LOS QUINIS DE APATZINGAN" on YouTube
    LOS ZAFIROS DEL NORTE-LOS QUINIS DE APATZINGAN: https://youtu.be/Hu971BGv-kM

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  19. Sinaloa nuthuggers are starting to get mad because they're not at the top anymore its the michoacanos y jalisenses at the top. Arriba Michoacan y Jalisco !

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    1. Ya Ponte a trabajar!

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    2. Im from michoacan and you should not be proud of a drug lord coward who kills kids, women and sends hitmen to ambush police...if anything his making us michocanos looks like jotos cobardes ...arriva el dr.mirales chamaco pendejo

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    3. Arriba, jente fina no payasos,con tanto pinche movimento alterado

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    4. Ciudado con las alototas monarcas de Walter Mercadoooo, mariposonas...

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    5. Arriva juan gabriel valis 100% michoacano

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    6. So u bad 4 sittin behind a computer & keyboard!.. And nuthuggin people u call nuthuggers!.. Tht makes sense!.. Mfs need an education & a life!..

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    7. 1:04 we have an educaishun E=m(c•c) see? And we have a life the rich want to steal from us to turn us into domesticated help, like the Stepford Indians...

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  20. You guys are full of shit these people or michoacanos are next in line to get fuck that's how the government does this shit with the media

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    1. Basically that's all there is to it.
      A kind of bullshit propaganda so they can shout about the war on drugs an all that shit.It works every time,they can say any shit they want who's going to argue or disprove it?

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  21. If the US government knew of any personal items such as real estate or anything else it would be taken so fast. There is no actual way of knowing. This appears to be nothing more than a tactic to have other cartels attempt to bring them down since the other cartels are taken hard hits. It appears Mexico can't afford the cost to fight another large cartel as they have taken on too many already. If someone removes this cartel for the government, they can continue to pursue the other ones.

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  22. michoacan best state in Mexico hands down best drug traffickers best fashion style best food and the best woman.

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    1. If you say so lol

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    2. Take the spot we as chinolas need to fall back to much bullshit has been on us for a long time. We need to do it like before make money and be silent about it and better sinaloa as a whole let these morons smoke each other we'll just sit back and laugh as the smoke clears

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  23. Hey mencho and los cuinis hope your reading this be ready for sleepless nights living like a rat and always on the run you wanted to be number 1 now you got it be ready for the heavy D because there coming for ya and thanks mayo for paying proceso to publish this story we all know you run proceso with your goons running around secretly maybe finally the marina and militares will leave my beautiful culiacan alone.

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  24. Its funny how all these michoacanos believe this hype. .Mayos undisputed .Facts are facts. Azul and Mayo have done something no other narco has.Never set foot in prison. Over 40 years on top.

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    1. Am cds, hueso colorado and let me tell you this, azul did set foot on prison he did aroud 7-8 years get your facts, straight. Other then that mayos hasnt been and chapo got out once, puro cds.

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  25. They are kidnapping little kids in michoacan for organs.....if you got family let them know...inside sources at hospital are selling information on kids compatible...... http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldezamora/notas/n3766312.htm

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    1. I hope this isn't true?I hope it hasn't degenerated to where this is even contemplated?This is the worst crime imaginable without a shadow of a doubt..Surely it hasn't come to this for greed of money

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    2. @255pm. Is true, I was on the phone last nite with someone from that colonia....is crazy shit happening little kids are being taken. http://www.oem.com.mx/laprensA/notas/n3482182.htm

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    3. I know is hard for people in other parts of the world to understand how narcos work.but once a cartel looses grip of an area , is like a free for all to make money and that includes, organ trafficking. But hey I'm try to explain what I heard .in zamora, is a weird ass place...with no law seriously no law....anything can be bought, and bribes are a common thing...well I think this is super horrible what is happening currently as we speak...I was on the phone with some local friends from that area....that confirmed that small kids are being taken...like " el roba chicos" type of shit back on the 1980s. So the media is no good they don't published the real story, cops are corrupt as fuck...they kidnapped a soldiers family and they had them on a hotel....well the idea behind this post is to let people know, watch out for the kids specially on that area....if you have family or know some body down there tell them, cause usually they are not informed and some don't give a fuck cause is normal to them to live like that ...cause they could be next..is off my hands at this point, hope this helps...so many poor people in that zamora area that usually they are easy targets, the hospitals are involved I know it sounds crazy, but they have all the info on kids and adults with type of blood type, address ,phone numbers...most go to the seguro social..is like a government clinic for the poor..well you can imagine what goes...again if you have kids in zamora, buy a revolver , a knife or hammer or something cause shit is real down there. Good luck!!!! At least some colonias are doing neighborhood watch , and the fucken cops send In the army to punk them down...hey peña nieto, do something right !!! Help these poor people.

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    4. The tin man needs a new heart, dick Cheney does not care where it comes from, just in case he needs to replace the replacement...

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    5. O sick and hospitals selling compatability-even more sick.

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  26. I want to see them control sinaloa cause the sinaloense have control jalisco and michocan ...pero lo dudo ...sinaloa es de los sinaloenses no hay mas

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    1. There. is zetas in sinaloa, so to say they control that state 100°/. is false :)

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    2. Beltran leyvas let the zetas in they work with the guasave cartel as henchmen and the guasave cartel has a Monterrey pipeline.

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    3. True they give them a pass because I can assure you that no one will ever control SIN if it ain't a chinola.

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  27. http://www.oem.com.mx/laprensA/notas/n3482182.htm

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  28. I've been saying this for a while. Theyre actually 2 organizations that make up CJNG along with other bosses. It works exactly how CDS did, its a federation working together. Arriba Michoaca!

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    1. Your forgetting el 54 and 85 fractions the actual leaders of the Jalisco plaza.

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  29. If they are not trafficking king to the US, WHY IS IT THE DEA'S BUSINESS?
    Maybe because the cjng are too much of anti peña nieto?
    --frankly what this looks like, is the DEA is trying to save some more of peña nieto's ass again, and nobody needs anti-peña nietistas growing too big when the US is about to finish is taking possession of the Aztec empire again from the hands of the ignorant indians who do not appreciate private property enough and must be taken care of...
    --but if the army disappears students, social leaders, teachers, journalists, politicians who do not get it, then it is no problem...

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    1. That's a good fukin question....why is DEA involved

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  30. Well here is something. To think about, pinche mama rosa had a farm for organs for sale in black market, lady was in bussines for 50 years paying extorsion bribes to municipal and army institutions....now that michoacan is open for the taking no big cartel in charge no familia michoacana, or caballeros templarios, there isare several cartels and small organizations, doing crazy shit to make money. Kidnapping, kids and organs trafficking....the reason why I'm writing here is hoping that a big cartel boss hopefully takes control of the michoacan area and puts a Stop to this crazy shit...im thinking that jalisco is winning so far...I posted a link to the situation on colonia el vergel and colonia revolusion....El sol de zamora, don't write what really happens...the situation is that a small girl. WAs found open with no eyes and organs in a open lot , with money stuffed inside the body son they can pay for cemetery funeral ...

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    1. I would personally kill anyone I saw kidnapping little girls...The most precious innocent form of life we have.Any man does things such as that has no right to life.

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  31. Well i dont think these guys have more money than mayo zambada and el azul but one thing is for sure watch out with the michoacanos.

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    1. War is very expensive and so is protection, not yo mention all the money mayo is going to have to forfeit for his sons

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  32. The only narco corrido out there for the cuinis is the zafariros band one where they say los cuinis are from apatzingan michoacan and that they are humble dont like bragging and shit like that.

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  33. It's started,create hysteria and interest,throw out unsubstantiated facts and figures and what you got?The US on yo ass..
    They can say anything they want,what we can say is Europe is NOT flooded with Meth?Fact..The way governments do this and time and time again..

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  34. You believe what the US says?

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    1. I believe the US says whatever will fit their program, and MSM will parrot it all for the right money...
      --Packing heat in mexico for foreigners, law approved
      --Paying billions of dollars for foreigners, law approved
      --Privatizing anything the vulture capitalistas want, including the water and the air, done! Laws invented and approved...
      --Legalizing drug trafficking because the real owners do not want prosecution, done workin' on it...
      --demonizing da' cartels legally, done, did, law

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    2. exceptionally well spoken

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    3. 'Foreigners'You've toned it down a lot..
      Everything is not about poor little Mexico?

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    4. Foreigners like Germany, Belgium, holland, spain, France, England, china, korea, india, isisrael, are there shoulder to shoulder to recolonize the LatinAmericas, the US pays it's cohorts to be in cahoots, the US itself is being sold down the river by the children of Benedict arnold, all amerikkkan corporate welfare traitors...
      Did you really believe the mainfest destiny was an all amerikkkan only concept?
      Like the US is really so unique?
      Others got the US by the ying-yangs, but that's the news to you...today...

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  35. Puro CJNG gente de trabajo no andan con corridos y con cuentas en instagram .El Senor de los Gallos Mr. Mencho es puro negocios .El continente europeo es su plaza .
    saludos a los Matazetas

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    1. There goes a fool reads one thing abd boom becomes a cartel cheerleader saying things like they are in it

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    2. El señor de los gallos y como agarastes ese apodo de un coridillo chafa de seguro del mencho jo#o aqui te d sientas y puro CTGM

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    3. How abut some Jarabe pa' la tos, pal' señor de los "gallos", maybe some garlic ...

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  36. Michoacan is a joke
    Pure meth users piratones
    Michoacan is the best state haahaha yeah right
    Last time i checked the historic traffickers are from sinaloa not michoacan
    You got the best fashion?

    Michioacan always trying to be like the sinaloenses even talking and trying to dress like them

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    1. Los dos son.muy presumidos y algunos son muy sangrones y mala onda buenos los que yo conosco

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    2. Yea i been saying the same thing for more then 15 years! Michoacanos talk shit about Sinaloa but they try to be like them in every way

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    3. Is it true....that sinaloan fashion and culture are to mexican culture what gangsta rap and lil Wayne are to American culture....that would make you all the.....of mexico....Michoacanos would then be the kardashian's to your ninjas

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    4. In texas they try being all norteños , they have no style & copy ,alot of em have a bad rep by females , they leave em or somebody is boinking their female true stuff

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    5. Hahahaha, you got a point there, I know a good number of Michoacanos like that.

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    6. I live in phoenix and it's like litle sinaloa, these guys don't like to work and like their wife to work so they can stay home and get coked out. Most are just drug addicts with no money or style.

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    7. Must be Culichis cuz mazatlan and Guasave people are way different and more violent but way more respectful

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  37. they say how dangerous nuevo laredo is for americans too.a white american.has not been murderd in 26 years there.1989 was the last one

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    1. Maybe they just get disappeared, to keep things quiet...

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  38. Damn this place is chokfull of nuthuggers...puro pinche vato chivon. Parecen plebes de primaria. Dejense de alabar a estas ratas puñetas..alcavo q no les van a ofrecer niuna pinche tortilla.

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  39. Los valientes no les importa de donde vienes mas bien de que te dedicas

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  40. These guys ran from michoacan in 2006 with there tails bwtween there legs ... they where scared of el chayo ,chango, kike, and tuta

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    1. And where are chayo, chango, kike and la tuta now? Get too known and mess around with civilians and your end will come quick. Acting "tough" does not keep you in the game, being smart, well connected and low profile does.

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  41. chapo and mencho

    In February of 2013, Los Mata Zetas released a video where they pronounced that they and the Sinaloa Cartel were no longer allies, so that from that moment it was to be considered that chapo and cjng were no longer allied

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  42. The unnamed DEA official was wrong about who bought the horse as well as location of Santa Anita racetrack. It's 350 mile from San Jose in Arcadia, CA.

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  43. Hey Lucio, good checking of facts on the horse not being bought by cuini.

    going the extra effort is one of the reasons I read all of your posts.

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  44. Dea gets all thier cases built. By snitches that bs about cuinis buying trevinos horses sounds like bs by the ci because santia racetrack dont race quarter horses

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  45. Now who is glorifying the drug trade off which they they say they are so stone dead against it and boasting about all that - supposedly - immeasurable and - in their eyes - also easy profits? Now who is making them look like celebrities! It is as if that is the only thing they try to be here; putting them in the spotlight, making sure they are getting all that attention - they paint 'em off as if they are bleeping celebrities (and all they do that for is in the hope it will help them pull any further those multi-billion budgets for their unproductive wat on drugs & the undesirable (and inhuman) effects it produces all on its own. They might as well place an add pull those idiots that are prone to believing this kind of nonsense into that gang - a gang that nobody had ever heard of till the first publication mentioning it just a few weeks ago.., so they can fight some more, so some more injustice, lock some more people up in no - daylight-concrete'cells worn no input, no communication, just a few square feet, a thing they - even those inhuman cops - wouldn't do to a dog (now would they). Multi billions no less.. like Chapo's billion I guess that never materialized!

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  46. Real talk that was some digging u had to do!

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  47. Now who is glorifying the drug trade of which they say they are so stone dead against it and boasting about all that - supposedly - immeasurable, and -in their eyes- also easy profits? Now who is making them look like celebrities? It is as if that is the only thing they try to do here: putting them in the spotlight, making sure they are getting all that attention - they again are painting 'em off as if they are bleeping celebrities (and all they do that for is in the hope it will help them pull any further those multi-billion budgets of theirs for their ultra violent, unproductive war on drugs & the totally undesirable (and inhuman) effects it produces all on its own. (Drugs still flood the market, but now there is no control over its purity either toxicity, the proceeds, which now all flow onto the black market, not even universities can do the so desperately needed studying of those substances that rather than kill act as a god-sent medicine to quite a few who can but self-medicate, it is the hardships of what the illegality brings forth that actually DOES the killing, and partly we are talking substances that in exactly the same active, molecular form are at the same time also prescribes legally, as painkiller for instance, a billion doses a year roughly, making illegality totally arbitrary these are NOT the REAL dangerous, nor the really deadly materials, it seems the controlled substances list is made up by throwing the dice, by sheer coincidence, composed by drawing straws by sadists with eyes closed. And the true deadly aide is the frustration causes by all those confiscations, by all that unfair punishment, by the losses generated, all this frustration mixed with some competitors always ready to take over the place, and it gets dealt out by dudes that're fuelled by doses of meth and coke, them being forced their hands, under constant stress, with little sleep and no catering to speak of, besides the true violence only becomes a factor possible for them by the machine guns and ammunition that -among others- also the good ol' USA produced before, and produces now.) They might as well place an add pull those idiots that are prone to believing this kind of nonsense into that gang - a gang that nobody had ever heard of till the first publication mentioning it just a few weeks ago.., so they can fight some more, do some more injustice, lock some more people up in no-daylight concrete cells with no input, no communication, dead silence and unpleasant personnel and all that on just a few square feet. It for sure is a feat, a thing they, indeed, even those inhuman cops- wouldn't do to a dog, now would they! Multi billions no less.. like Chapo's billion I guess that never materialized!

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  48. That's a great sell by the US DEA... Now its even more obvious who's on the CDS payroll!

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  49. Who thinks they wear ralph lauren purple label and Stetson triple diamond hats

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    1. I belive the RLPL but no stetson hat's that cowboy shit played out now it's 2015 we ysl Alexander Wang loui v. High end shit :)

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  50. I say bullshit. The government is just coming up with any excuse to bring down cjng. They don't want another cds or z cartel in terms of rapid expansion. They rather stop them right now.

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  51. You guys think cjng will operate in the states of sonora and chihuahua in the future?

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  52. Question? Where does all this wealth go if Mencho n all these high profile Druglords are being wanted by the Mex n American Gov.

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  53. En michoacan se dan los hombres!!!!!!!' Con otros

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  54. Michoacan will always be second to SINALOA in the trade culture music women
    Etc

    Trust me they envy Sin.

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    1. Calmados paisas que uds tanto los sinaloenses como los michoacanos no mas el orgullo tienen ninguno de ustedes los que opinan aqui handan en el negocio ahy no mas alavan a sus picadores por ser de los estados donde uds nacieron , ya dejen de chuparle los huevos a esos gueyes que ni una tortilla les van a dar.

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    2. You still have sonoroa , baja cali , chiuahua, tamaulipas before them when it comes to drug trade cartels

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    3. Sinaloa will always be the drug capital of Mexico it always has and always will

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  55. Qué tal las mantas que dejaron ahora en Guadalajara van contra el gobierno

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  56. Hahahahaha CJNG put up some mantas in Jalisco allready saying there sorry and that they only have beef with Zetas and Caballeros Templarios lol why dint they say anything about the Sinaloenses i though there were bad asses hahahahaha they know better hahahahaha

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    1. They mentioned[in the Manta] they are going after Gov. official who are corrupt or in other words those who don't hold up their mutual agreement.

      I wonder if they did the 15 death ambush because the capture of CJNG capo El Cuini or if he himself is giving up info on key locations of the cartel leaders.

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    2. the cuinis are cool dudes but they aint billionares,they got millions and hve cars that are worth $250,000 dlls

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  57. Who are the Rs ? Pockerch1p? They working in Europe.... Been !!!

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  58. Los Rs own Europe. . . SeNor pockerch1p y los Rs have it on lock

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  59. Again the U.S sticking there nose , shouldn't it be Europe and Asia confiscating property since that's where they get there profits from but like always U.S wants piece of the action

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  60. You never retire if you do you retire poor meaning what you made in exchange for your life.

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