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Wednesday, March 19, 2014

After Losing in Court, Hipolito Mora's message from prison: "Don't lay down arms"

Chivís Martínez for Borderland Beat
 
Judge's Decision Goes Against Hipolito Mora
The fourth judge of Assize in Michoacán issued detention order against the leader and founder of the self-defense groups, Hipolito Mora Chavez, for his alleged involvement in the killing of two men.
The State public security secretariat reported that the judge found sufficient evidence of his  guilt in the crime of homicide, in degree of collusion.  The decision was made just under the deadline to either process the complaint or free Mora.
Mora is being held in a prison near the city of Morelia.

Because of  this decision, tomorrow, Mora will likely  be transferred to the Social Rehabilitation Center in Apatzingán.
His attorney, Eduardo Quintero Madrigal, said that until now, as part of the process, Hipolito Mora Chavez was in complete safety and protected from potential enemies, but with the determination of the judge, he will be transferred to Apatzingán where he will face  enemies who want him dead.  He told reporters it is his belief that from the moment of transfer the defendant has his physical integrity at risk.

From the gates of the fourth criminal court in Cereso Hipolito Mora Chavez came to speak to the media, saying he feels fundamentally betrayed, by the judge's decision.
He sent a message to  all autodefensas, not to be intimidated, and  not lose heart because of the  situation that has befallen him. 

He further stated, that because of all that has been achieved by the autodefensas so far, that people can work and live quietly,  he has "no regrets", although the judge made this decision, and although I rot in jail, do not regret what we are doing, likewise ask my partners not to lay down their arms and continue fighting,"

He stressed that he is concerned for his family, who he alleges  are being watched and have received threats. 

His attorney, Eduardo Quintana, became irate at the decision, saying it was the most vile  ruling he has ever seen in his 30 years of practicing.  He asserted that the judge made a ruling without a shred of evidence, and  prompted the judge to tell everyone  including the press,   what  evidence his decision was based on, he continued by saying "Mr. Judge, there is no doubt that we live in a state where the law is absolutely worthless, where a formal arrest order can be issued without evidence".

"The judge lacks balls,  because decisions like this are only made  based on cowardice, so I hold the judge responsible if something happens to Hipólito, since the case will be turned over to an appeals  court  in Apatzingán." The Apatzingán prison is filled with CT.
Further,  Hipolito Mora's attorney said, that they have another 72 hours to contest the fourth or criminal decision and file an  injunction, so once again within 72 hours Hipolito Chavez Mora could have news that can be released or continue with his trial from behind bars.

It is amazing how prosecutors managed to charge Mora with 35 charges, yet in the case of Caballeros Leader "El Tío", the same prosecutors could only squeeze out a single charge, that of being in possession of arms exclusive to the army. 
 
Source: Facebook, La Voz de Michoacán , Esquema

76 comments:

  1. Dios proteja a hipolito mora por que el juez en un pinche corructo DE mierda lo quieren mandar a el cereso de apazingan donde hai muchos enemigos de los lideres de las autodefesas pinche castillo trai plan con maña cuanto te pago la tuta y plancarte por dejarte tronar el ejote pinches traidores de mierda castillo osorio y pena..

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  2. There's no time to dwell on the past, whats done is done! With Moras statements it show he has not given up and is pushing forward continuing to lead his people! The Government is in disarray and has no clue in what to do! The AD's have gotten the attention of all the suppressed people all over Mexico! The corrupt government officials better be carefull. Their incompetent decicions may just backife into a civil war by chosing to prosecute the wrong man.

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  3. Its time the politicians in Michuacan get prosecuted for crimes against humanity. They sure have complicity just for allowing corruption and taking bribes by all the cartel criminals during their time in offfice!

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  4. Picnche gente culera..mis respetos a ese hombre.que siqan casando templarios a la v....gra con eso lacras.

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  5. and don't forget enrique francisco galindo ceballos zeta fron the start, commissioneer of the nazional police, disappearer of his own SSP del estado en san luis potosi, expert in extortion kidnappings and disappearances and money laundering, like genaro garcia luna...

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  6. Is there any honest person in Mexican government? Except for the Mexican Marines! The government pulled the oldest trick in the books on Mora by bringing him in close, pretending to be in alliance. Theh when he let his gaurd down and confided in them and they backstabbed him and are now are going to use that against him. Good luck current corrupt Government officials in future negotiations with AD. This just might be the best thing that happened to AD!!!!

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  7. The harder the government tries to push the AD The more they show their incompetence!

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  8. In a revolution those politicians would end up hanging from a tree of they don't have the best intentions for Mexico!

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    1. Start with the judges and work your way up!Probably 90% of the police,judges Generals and politicians need to feel the wrath.Your time is near

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  9. The problem lies with the Mexican public in general. The politicians are chosen by you , they represent you , they should be answerable to you. I find it hard to comprehend , that the Mexican people dont mobilise to have these people thrown out of office.

    We dont have this problem where I live because we will not stand to oppressed by anyone , least of all , public officials who are paid to look after out best interests. What is it , about the Mexican people that prevents them from standing together? Your law system is based on the French law system, take example from how the French stand together. When the French government do something against the people , the whole country goes on strike. So the government there dont try it.

    Mexico needs to do the same. If the whole country went on strike , even for a single day , the Mexican government would have to act. You need to organise! A few marches with a few thousand people will achieve nothing in the long run. It has to be a national campaign.

    Is it that the majority of Mexican people dont know what is going on ? it cant be that , then one can only think its apathy on their part.

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    1. Greetings educated comment by far. Here is the problem in mexico. Have you seen the movie apocalipto? Well mexico has good laws but people in general don't follow them. Mainly cause the government is corrupted. For instance have you ever analyzed why mexico is a 3 world country? Who does is benefit to be kept as a slave labor country? Personal take on this issue , Look as an American I don't really give a shit about mexico. Don't get me wrong. But the reality is that mexico itself needs to have a total transformation culturally !!! Culture is the problem, narco corridos? Stupid mariachi music, everyone is a Catholic having a million babies, cause they are not allowed to used birth control. Where is separation between church and state. Well here is the problem look at the history of mexico as a country, hacendados keept mexico on a leash for dedades (thanks pancho villa for freedom) , other nations have huge economic interest keeping mexico as a back yard for cheap ass labor. Is a Mexican china. And the sad reality is that most *mexi-cants * wants change but only a few are willing to fight for it.... so once again nothing worth while is free. Freedom isn't free.

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    2. And where do you live tough guy?

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    3. Then y don't u go to mexico and start a national march since u think its sooooo easy???

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    4. The Mexican people aren't doing anything? You know there is this little group that started in Tierra Caliente made up of peasants, that ome day decided to band together with their lives on the line to get rid of cartels and clean up corruption in their local government! The people can only get pushed so far!

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    5. Lots of babies is usually a product of povery. Usually the more industrialized societies have less and less babies. Don't blame Catholicism. If you don't want babies then close your legs. Alot of people in mexico have a lot of babies because siblings help support the family network. Busy industrialized people usually are to busy, don't have the time, and their living standards are more expensive to maintain!

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  10. I hate this life i really do , there is no justice corrupted people get away with murder , innocent people suffer and im not just talking on this particular case of mr mora , its life in general is not fair the meanest and cruelest basterds in this life are the ones that get to top the good and honest rearlly make it that far

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    1. Dont hate participate. Buy solid ak 47 shoot a bad guy today. have a nice day.

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  11. I pray to God that he frees Mora. Even if that means a outright civil war.

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  12. its fucked up how there so quick to catch and judge him when these thieves are getting a with murder

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  13. According to press accounts from Michoacan, the supposed regretful CTs are in the process of recuperating the Tierra Caliente plaza for Miguel Ángel Gallegos Godoy, who had a fallout with Kike Plancarte, Los Valencia, and El Chango Mendez. Yes, that Chango Mendez! The detained leader of LFM. The remorseful CTs include Sierra Santana brothers of the Viagras cell, Silvestre Fernandez Valencia, and G 1. The ADs running with Simon El Americano. If you look at the recent history of cartel presence in Michoacan, El Chango Mendez began with Los Valencia until him and El Tisico decided to take over all of the plaza for themselves; they then proceeded to enlist the help of Osiel Cardenas of CDG and his Zeta enforcers to accomplish this. Mendez eventually decided to kick-out the Zetas and with El Chayo
    started LFM. Unfortunately for the true ADs, all they did was help one group of organized criminals defeat another. Apparently, the war for Michoacan and for Mexico is not over! It is just beginning!

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    1. This movement has gotten more press than the criminlas would have liked. They want to suppress information. Well it's too late the AD's although in a virtual civil war for control will eventually get cleaned up, unfortunately things like this get messy before they get better. The level of corruption in Mexico is out of control and will eventually consume the whole country! Pick a side now people. JUST REMMEMBER CRIMINALS WILL NEVER BE TRUSTED BUT GOOD HONEST PEOPLE YOU CAN TRUST WITH YOUR LIFE!

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  14. I new the government would bring him down. Revoult Mexico

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  15. At some point, Mirelles and many of the honest and respected AD members must run for political office in Michoacán.
    Takeover by the ballot box is the only way to ensure that the AD movement stays true to its goals.

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  16. I am saying the AD need a strong, armed wing and a strong political wing to ensure the achievement of their goals!

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    1. This is a replay of Columbia history in slow motion

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    2. Yeah because setting up a strong, armed wing always works out. Just ask the Gulf Cartel.

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    3. Why does history always tend to repeat itself? Do we ever learn!

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  17. Something needs to be done about "El Americano".

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    1. Maybe a few bullets will pierce his skull in the near future.

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  18. This is now a Revolution starts. Mexico is way over due for one.

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  19. this whole arrest fiasco of Hipolito is a farce! everyone knows it's the CT flexing their political muscle of all the hired governors, mayors (El Chayo's nephew) police chiefs, and bought state judges. two men that are part of the cartel are killed and all of a sudden, someone must be arrested. What about when the citizens denounced mass killings, rapes, and kidknappings! where were these so called law people to arrest the perpetatros?? Hipolito should have never gaven himself up. I bet if you investigate who the accusers are, who the judges, mayors, and law inforcement are behing the arrest of HIpolito, you'll find that they are all on the CT payroll..

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    1. Investigate? Who's going to investigate? It is clear the future GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO is going to arise from the spark that the AD movement started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  20. WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF THE LAW OF MEXICO WORKED THIS DILIGENTLY WITH EVERY CRIME?Wouldn't it make people feel safer and more secure if they arrested notorious narcos and killers with the same dispatch that they used against Senor Mora.If this man is hurt or killed it will be a national disgrace and an indictment against the Mexican authorities.We can start to understand the frustration of decent Mexicans with this outrageous hypocrisy.When did Mr Mora become a notorious criminal and killer?Maybe they may let him escape with Zetas and CDS/CDG killers who seem to bounce anytime they feel like it?It may be better to do that than rely on Michoacano templarios in office who run it?

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  21. I hope to god all this talk of H3 cartel is wrong?Hear one thing then another,they are a part of Americanos group or(the worst scenario)is that they are a coalition of the power brokers behind the scenes ,Migueladas,Los Viagras,Los Méndez,Alfredo Castillo and Fausto Vallejo.These are touted as the ones who really killed El Pollo y Nino Torres?There is an endless amount of talk about EVERYONE and it is getting murkier and murkier.

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  22. Some of this is unbelievable if true?One cartel takes over from another?
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Michoac%C3%A1n-Sin-Censura-Sdr/605758569462111. This is telling who the Cartel H3 is.If this is true this will never end,the government couldn't care less as long as normality is returned and a semblance of peace is restored.This has to be cultural and generational,this is the way things are done in Mexico i guess.No wonder Tuta was crying about cartel infiltrators and Mencho etc,is Tuta and CT on the outs to be replaced by a re-branded group of players all with government assurances?Mora wouldn't play ball so he was bounced out?Who knows with all this nonsense of greed and power sharing going on?

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  23. I am sorry to say that Hipolito Mora is a dead man come on he's getting sent to prison in apatzingan the CT stronghold I'm pretty sure that the judge in charged of the case is working for the templarios. It's just sickening that Hipolito is being sent to prison for defending his land,his family his DIGNITY as a man while these fucken CT's kill at will. I just can't believe the AD left hipolito to his faith.where's DR. Mireles and the rest of autodefensas? Hipolito was there for you guys when he was needed now return the favor after all if it weren't for hipolito Mora the movement would have never started in la ruana you guys would still be leaving in hell.

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    1. What do you suggest the ad do? Also he wasn't the founder of the AD movement. It started simultaneously in tepalcatepec as well. He was indeed one of the first to get up and fight along with a few names that aren't given much credit. The movement got far because of mireles but non the less they both deserve respect. I hope all gets better

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  24. mora trying to flip the script...no one put mora in prison for being an auto defensa,you are in jail beacause you were part of killing 2 people....thats it! now he is trying to make it seem like he is in prison due to him being auto defensa!!!! pathetic fool! talking about dont lay arms dowm,keep the struggle,bla,bla,bla...just like auto defensa were ,supposedly, made to get justice,well,now then let there be justice,you are part of a murder,pay for it!!! or should justice look away becauyse you are auto defensa!? didnt like it when the ct would get away,huh....so take your own mediicine!!! and personally...hope you do get slaughtered as soon as you get to apatzingan!!!!!

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    1. In all honesty, i wish i could slaughter you :)

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    2. I only hope that you get your brains blown out only after your tortured. Piece of shit

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    3. You were there when he supposedly killed two people? So now you are telepathic. The main witness said she saw him about five football fields away in the middle of the night. There are alot of glaring holes in the prosecution. I smell a set-to me!

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    4. You must be posting for El Americano!

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  25. The AD desperate for good name are doing things correctly the proper way to do things. Unfortunately in a ugly world, that doesn't always help. I aree they must be killed. No chances, no mercy. Just remember though the AD's aren't dogs like the templarios are

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  26. Kill that fat Rat Bastard "El Americano" Now!

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  27. @ March 20, 2014 at 12:02 PM - You're a pathetic piece of shit CT loser aren't you?

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  28. ESTO ES GUERRA. LAS AUTODEFENSAS TIENEN QUE EMPESAR A ARRESTAR POLITICOS Y PONERLOS EN PRISION DONDE ELLOS CONTROLEN PARA QUE LOS POLITICOS VEAN QUE TAMBIEN PUEDEN SER ARRESTADOS Y SU GOBIERNO CORRUPTO NI LOS VA AYUDAR A LA HORA DE LOS VER GASOS.

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  29. March 20, 2014 at 12:02 PM
    Dude,tell us what makes you feel like that about Mora?If you support CT tell us about this h3 group,are they just another group taking over from CT?Why do you dislike Mora and do you think its all bullshit politics to take over Michoacan for new groups?Just asking dude?

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  30. Government is very afraid that if the AD movement spreads throughout Mexico and they become politicized that it will turn into a revolution and destroy the present System.
    Number commandment of a System is to keep that System alive and functioning!!!!
    Yes! The Government absolutely wants to destroy the AD movement if it cannot totally control it!
    And for AD to survive, they must at least expand throughout Michoacán and have a political wing!
    Then perhaps throughout Mexico!

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  31. and we're worried about Crimea????? What about the corrupt Government in Mexico????? How about some trade sanctions to protect our close neighbors? Me estas oyendo (Obama) inutil?

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  32. I just posted a video on Vato's post of Hipolito's ballsy attorney expressing how he feels with respect to the ruling.....

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    1. He has st least the balls to speak his mind. Thats what Mexico needs!

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  33. This "Arrest" of one of the founders of the ADs. The aircraft "Accident" of Dr Mireles. And the new "Born Again" CTs involving themselves with the ADs are all part of the Mexican government's plan to pacify Michoacan.

    Their plan might work...

    But there is one thing that cannot be stopped by arrests, accidents or even murder.

    They are free from fear.

    Tens of thousands of young people have experienced real control over their own lives for the first time. New leaders will always step forward where ever there is oppression. Mexicans have long memories. The ADs have already inspired people in other States.

    Peace, ESB

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  34. @ 1:31 AM

    Don't feed the CT troll/tool. He's been around a while in the BB comment section. He gets paid for his taunts. I also think he has a Narsassitic(?) Personality Disorder. You can always tell its him by his writing style. Taunts and CT cheer leading. No capitals and spacing. He should be treated as he really is. A nobody hiding in the nameless net.

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  35. @ 1;45 am

    You seem to have all the answers to Mexico.

    It must be empowering to lecture the Mexican people on their history and political direction in one short thesis.

    "The problem lies with the Mexican public". "I find hard to comprehend that the Mexican people don't moblise and have these people thrown out of office". "We don't have this problem where I live". ETC. ETC.

    How naive and stoopid are your comments.

    What do you think the ADs are doing? Organizing office pools on the upcoming March Madness tournament?

    They are an ARMED uprising against their oppressors. Get it? These "Apathetic" Mexicans have gathered pistols, rifles and even sticks to drive out their oppressors. That means they not only drove out cartel members, they drove out the local police, politicians and anybody that supports the CTs.

    I don't know what wonderful country you are from. I'm from the USA, currently living in deep Mexico. You know, the former "Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave". You really need to educate yourself before you go off on your ignorant and racist rant. Try reading, The Nation web page, The Huffington Post and many other free web pages that investigate American dirt. Have you forgotten the 2 illegal wars that we still have? The housing disaster that evicted millions out of their homes? The massive oil spill in the Gulf? Fracking anybody? Income inequality? Student loan debt and no jobs? ETC.

    Really? I think you should first listen and learn, before you lecture people behind your computer pulpit

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    1. Excellent reply.

      G(-)057

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    2. The illegal war of Iraq ended in 2011 with the pullout of the last U.S. non-combat trooos in Dec. of that yr. U.S. is supposed to pull-
      out of Afghanistan sometime this yr.

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  36. FRENCH LAW SUCKS, of course, it's french, (oh, i know, kisses, cooking and other things are ok, michelle, french songs and briggitte bardot, catherine deneuve, barbarella...), the celebrated napoleonic code never contemplated investigation or punishment for the little corporal's shenanigans, stealing the money for medical supplies for his own soldiers on the front line, was the pits, the duke of wellington and von blucher saved europe from napoleon, and left the napoleonic code there for others to stick it up the third world's ass, impunity for corruption from public officials is still our cross, ladden with opportunities for graft and supported by powerful friends like the UK/US=master/servant conglomerate.
    drugs weapons and oil are said to rule the world, and to be the best moneymakers, and it has been shown time and again that it is true, the rothschilds keep making all the money, the rockefellers keep trying to keep up with them while getting puppeteered around do this and do that style...
    @2:02 you are really some pendejo, estupido y culero, la puta tuta will use your ass lining to exorcise el chayo's ass back to life, and you may be the next martyr el americano kills to blame another auto defensa member!
    @3:02 so called cultural transformations do not work, mainly because they take too long, the red guards of china didn't need schooling, or learning, the intrigues of the english crown and the daring of scarlet pimpernel was all that was needed, the well regarded french always carry the day when assigned work, like when they lost their vietnam colony to the cook, uncle Ho and the US had to go and "try" to save the french, who by then were not even there, wuuuh, the communist!!! wuuuuh!!! the domino effect! i wholeheartedly think the spurious pizzas from domino's pizza are more dangerous than the viet-cong or the viet-minh ever where, and they needed no schooling or a lot of weapons bombs or training; the US for their troubles got imposed job offshoring and the fugue of divises also known as flight of capital, because taxes in the US are "bad". any other suggestions?
    @8:50 ESB, i feel like we seen before; i'd like to introduce you and all comers to one crazy jihadista fighting a losing war for AMERICA! on all fronts! ; of all the crazy escapees from all the asylums in the world, this sicko has to be one that steals cakes, he seems to want to behead arabs, americans, british, einstein, palestinians, jews, the rich, NWO, anybody, anytime! i respect his dedication like yours, and i wonder what is a whatsumara like you doing in mexico? are you mexican? we are not going to correspond privately anytime soon, but you may want to slam my posts, i'll know'em when i see'em; not homework, if you are trying to find the origin of all evil in the world it helps investigating the goings on of the international foundations that supossed to save the world and improve man's life with benevolent benevolence, but do nothing of the sort, and on the contrary spread war and misery on them inferior humanoids, with displacement and destabilization on the side...fuck them and their despair...
    MOSTAQUE ALI should keep you busy, never mind debunking, it is too much, and a speedy trip, just don't leave chivis alone with the wolf he/shes at BB...

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    1. There is an actual real life Goldfinger just like in the 007 movies trying to conquer the world!!!

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  37. ESB said..
    Really? I think you should first listen and learn, before you lecture people behind your computer pulpit.Right now i live deep inside Mexico and i can tell you i have seen or heard nothing that makes me realize how stupid i can sometimes be?Yes i know i am an old sodden lush talking out my ass because i am neurotic and touchy and now an expert on racial mores,i feel i am one of those people who are so phony it is hard to believe the shit i sometimes write. What do you think the ADs are doing? Organizing office pools on the upcoming March Madness tournament?No,we thought they were running away from the crazy gringo woman?But there is one thing that cannot be stopped by arrests, accidents or even murder.

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  38. 9:45
    Your thinking was true back a few decades, Mexico's birthrate is similar to that of the US. In fact it has become a developing problem.
    read

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  39. @ ESB , for your information Im from the UK. If you read what I wrote , you will see I am seeking information. I want to understand. You make assumptions , that doesnt suprise me if you are American.

    When I say the general mexican public I mean exactly that . The well paid people sitting in nice air conditioned offices in Mexico City. I certainly dont mean the AD. Whilst the city dwellers in mexico mostly have unaffected lives by the ongoing narco insurgency , the folk in the border areas and mountains live the kind of live that people of the Mich had before the AD

    My question was , do these people know what kind of hell its like to live in MICH or Tamps or Juarez ? if they do why dont they stand up for their fellow men and women?

    Perhaps you would enlighten me ? rather that just condeming me for asking questions? Im certainly not racist as I live in the most multicultural city in the world London!

    I have also read for many years about the narco insurgency, I have personal correspondance with Ioan Grillo , I have read many good books on the subject and have been contributing to BB forums for some time, I have tirelessly lobbied my government foregin office to do something to put pressure on mexican politicians, I have written on many occasions to the Mexican Ambassador to the UK to protest about the treatment the AD get at the hands of the Mexican Government. What have you done? I suspect Jack Shit , apart from coming on BB and trying to flame anyone who asks something you either dont know about or dont like.

    You are typically american , overly aggressive , lacking in any kind of subjectiveness , and your first response like you governments, is violence and aggression. Now I understand why a lot of the Mexican posters here intensely dislike Americans. In my country people from the USA have the same reputation of being rude , aggressive , and lacking in knowledge about the world in general. Not suprising from a country where 50% of the people who live there have never left their own state , let alone travelled to another country. 70% of USA resident dont even have a passport! Enough said

    On the qualification part , I have a Bachelors Degree from the university college of london in mechanical engineering. So I would suggest that my education is of a good standard. On USA I have visited on many occasions as I have relatives in Clearwater Fl. and Toronto, Canada. I know what the USA is , and what its people are about. The only thing that interests me about the USA is its relationship with Mexico. That will never change.

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  40. 11:47
    you had me at "hello"
    and lost me at "That doesnt suprise me if you are American."
    Generalizations are irrational and ignorant.

    I have found people "in your country" to be for the most part polite, oh sure there are more than a few assholes that I encountered" in my 3 trips to the UK, but to focus on them and generalizing in saying "People in the UK are rude" would be unfair, stupid, and wrong. as would saying the half dozen cities I visited, resulted in a great knowledge of an entire country.

    TROLL ALERT BB

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  41. @ 9:15 AM

    Huh? You don't make any sense. Are you high on cheap tequila? Please stop posting while drunk.

    What are you trying to say? Help me out here!

    Peace,

    ESB

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  42. great comeback 12:58 and didn't need to write a book with blank pages to convey it.

    to 11:47 Grillo is overrated and little depth to the overall issue in Mexico. I saw him in Austin and in the Q&A portion of his appearance, it is pretty sad, just a step up from Longmire

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  43. Wow, that was fast, is this how things are done down there, you wouldnt think someone who was charged with a capitol offence would get more time to argue the evidence and have his lawyer some time to file an appeal or two and basically have a chance to draw up a defence

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  44. Please sign this petition to help Hipolito Mora!!!!!!
    por favor firmen!!!!!!!!
    http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Hipolito_Mora_wanted_his_country_to_be_free_Now_he_is_not_free_he_is_on_prision_because_was_brave_to_fight_corruption_in/?csGxhhb

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  45. can you check the link for the petition? It doesn't take me to Hipolito petition

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  46. at 1:07 PM
    Go figure it out sodden ass.I married a Mexican now im an expert and can call people racist.You silly lame bitch,fuckin stay there.

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  47. What are you trying to say? Help me out here!
    Peace,Fuck off you moose headed harpie.Any help at all there?ESB comes across as somewhat racist,but,she drinks a lot what can we do?

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  48. --america has great technology, and transplanting hability to offshore it on command, its culture leaves a lot to be desired, not for nothing it's the land of the bullett stoppers also nown as leathernecks, and it is also the home of the greatest military in the world; US cooking, heavily influenced by that of england can't be saved, no matter how many chihuahuas burritos the mexicans cook for them.
    --the french, famous only for their great cooking, women and song, wines and champaign, is paradise, except for their alowing camel riders to crash brand new planes without even taking flight, if it was't for the rothschilds' spirits, france would be lying in the crapper a while ago.
    --england, the cultured land of the ugly cooking, of the military uniforms with capri pants and the light brigades that go and get victimized, sometimes by their own allies, sicarios cofradies, comrades and henchmen and who then come crying to the US for help, but they don't give a damn, as long as their mercenary US army always gets them out of trouble, and pays for the wars they fight with their own damn money or credit.
    --i believe england hosts many foreigners, ever since ben franklin conquered the french ladies by prying open their legs to pry open the french king's doors, an heroic feat for such an old man, americans have never been much very special don juans, and have fame like their british military brethren of being rather boy attracted.
    --ever since losing their North American colony, England has dedicated itself to the nurturing of revolutions and revolutionaries all over the world, being the craddle of marxism leninism, egging one faction against the other all over the world, being friends with both, in india, africa, south america, russia, china, the arab world, financing both sides of any war, and lately leading the globalization efforts of the NWO, even inviting HUGO CHAVEZ to their bilderberg recruiting conferences.
    --yeeep! there are a lot of foreigners in england, i bet all of them are there working against the best interests of their countrymen, and even england is not the biggest profiteer, all it gets from it is being the water surrounded island castle of the rothschilds global empire and ever newly discovered philosophies of world dominance, exploitation and globalization.
    --the english are cultured, and they know at heart the highest lesson:
    MONEY TALKS, AND BULLSHIT WALKS!
    God save the queen and the world from the rothschilds and zionism...

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  49. @??:??! are you talkin' to meee? how sad that you and you and you can't even properly aim your stunted barbs, you are worse than "doesn't live here anymore" or "wrong address"; being drunk, hyper-active or having any other diseases or mental disorders doesn't count for excuses you know?

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  50. WARNING: to all of el americano's bodyguards, friends, and accomplices in the murder and cover-up of el pollo deshorneado and his buddy, your life may be in danger, el americano doesn't like to leave witnesses behind' not for long. BEWARE OF DOG!
    ADVERTENCIA: a todos los amigos, guardaespaldas y complices del americano en el asesinato y encubrimiento del pollo frito y desfundillado, y su amigo, a el americano no le gusta dejar testigos vivos, no por mucho tiempo...
    CUIDADO CON EL PERRO!

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  51. ESB
    "being drunk, hyper-active or having any other diseases or mental disorders doesn't count for excuses you know?"
    Yeah,you would know about being drunk..

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  52. March 24, 2014 at 3:41 AM
    "MONEY TALKS, AND BULLSHIT WALKS!"

    Huh what? If you not living on the edge,your taking up to much space,,and a bird in the hand is worth a swan neck up your ass,,,ask ESB...

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  53. @ 11:47 AM

    I wrote 2 long responses to your latest post. It wasn't published for whatever reason. So here is my short version.

    I don't know who is "Jack shit", but I do know "Bull shit when I read it. Yours sir, is fresh and smells to high hell.

    "On the qualification part".

    As the great American, Will Rodgers, once said: "Who gives a shit?".

    Peace,

    ESB

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