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Saturday, September 24, 2011

The Execution of Two Chapos

A video of the execution of two alleged members of the Cartel de Sinaloa was brought to my attention a couple of days ago, but I chose not to show it. Two grim looking men, whose luck ran out, are butchered still alive in the most brutal way imaginable, "chainsaw massacre" style. Other narcoblogs have uploaded the video and is now making its round around the internet.

One of the men is identified as Felix Gamez Garcia, who admits to trafficking drugs to the United States and the other man is identified as Barnabas Gamez Castro, who is the uncle of the first man. Despite their bad decision to become halcones and collaborate with one of the most powerful drug cartel in Mexico, the Sinaloa Cartel or CDS, they are foremost human beings and no human being deserves to die in this manner.

Both men are sitting against an adobe wall, they have no shirt on, and seem renounced to their fate. They answer the questions posed to them by sicarios dressed in military uniforms, and they talk, but deep inside, they must know that no matter what they say, they will not make it out alive this time. You can hear it in their voices, worn, beaten, tired and left without hope. The hope not just to live a wealthy life as they must thought when they joined the cartel, but now just a basic right to just live.

The men admit to working for Joaquin El Chapo Guzman himself. They describe their duties as halcones or at one time riding in the convoys when they were asked to do so. The sicarios who are holding them for nearly six minutes in the video, are the typical sicarios that have been seen in previous videos of this kind. No remorse, with a full intent of doing a job that is beyond imaginable, that when seen if you dare, it truly shocks the conscious. No one can truly say who they are, or what criminal organization they belong to, perhaps we may never know.

The uncle has a message for those who might decide to enter the dark side of the drug cartels, "Think next time you decide to give the "finger" (being a rat), think about it very carefully, because it's not easy being here, and you never return back. With these people you don't play around, the people of El Chapo are not how they say they are," he says with a broken voice.

When both men are finished talking, it’s time to pay the piper. Both men then appeared frozen in time, staring in to the distance, as if in a trance, living but already dead. Perhaps they were heavily drugged so they didn't kick and scream during the brutal nightmare. Fear itself will not numb anyone enough to face this level of evil directly in the eye. Even the sound of the chainsaw does not break their trance.

The uncle is first; he grimaces as the chainsaw spews blood, flesh and bone, as it tears through his throat, separating his head from his body. The chainsaw accidentally cuts the arm of the nephew sitting right next to the uncle during the violent massacre, but he doesn’t flinch.

The second man, the young nephew, is decapitated with a knife, and while the knife is cutting through his throat, he makes a last attempt to scream out, but his vocal chords have been severed, and all one can hear is a faint whimpering sound, the last breath of a man that was way too young to die. The ghastly chilling gurgling sounds coming out of his perforated wind pipe, followed by the grinding sounds as the knife breaks through the spinal cord, finally frees his head from his body, ending the most repulsive, heinous and gruesome act witness on video. In a normal world one would say, wake up it’s only a dream, but this tangible, repeating itself every day somewhere in old Mexico. 

The uncle, Don Gamez Castro, had said that the drug cartels did not pay much, in fact he mentioned that the last work he did for them, they paid him 300 pesos ($21 USD), not nearly enough to die for.

This is the LINK for those who have the stomach to watch it, please be forewarned, the video is extremely graphic!

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Update: By the way, a BB reader posted information about the younger man, that had been arrested in Phoenix Arizona for the distributing and transporting of illicit drugs on June 17, 2011 and gave his name as Paulino Gomez-Garcia. There is a huge resemblance of the mug shot to the pictures of them in the video.


Bail was set at $20,000 and he was able to bond out. Guys on the forum give a good hypothesis that perhaps he lost a load, perhaps he used some of the drug money to bond out, and even perhaps he gave information to authorities when caught in the US, all good points and nice research to the BB peeps.

264 comments:

  1. the guy on the left had a pokerface

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  2. I don't know if I can stomach watching their last moments on earth, when will people learn ots better to die broke with honor and dignity than die as a subhuman monster....money no matter how much isn't worth it!

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  3. What the hell is wrong with people down there? These are HUMAN beings no matter what they've done. It's bad enough you all choose to kill each other over drugs, but in such horrible horrible ways. A bunch of animals.

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  4. btw who was the drug gang who killed them? zetas or juarez

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  5. Poor Narcos? What a joke! You want to play, you have to pay.

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  6. I can't tell from the quote, and it may be a language issue, but is it inferred that these men were killed by their own men for some infraction? 'The people of El Chapo are not why they say they are'. I don't know how to interpret that, they aren't like what? Nice guys? Or was this rivals of Sinaloa?

    That aside, I am not watching the video. That's my little moral soapbox.

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  7. I wonder if this happened to the President's brother or relative... Would he actually do something? Mexico is a fucking joke. I'm glad I'm American. The USA needs to send some of their Seals and kill all these motherfuckers. Sign me up. I bet I can kill 2 Of these so called sicarios at the same time. You ain't shit without a chainsaw, buddy.

    Pancho Villa and Emiliano Zapata died for this kind of shit? They're probably rolling in their graves.

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  8. I've seen a lot of things on various blogs, but this may be the worst. The individuals working for the cartels are heartless serial killers. These individuals need to be hunted down and executed on site! Forget giving a trial to people like this, as it would be a waste of time to allow them to breathe another moment on earth. You wouldn't slaughter an animal in this fashion, let alone a human being.

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  9. "Con esa gente no se juega, que la gente del Chapo no es como la platican”

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  10. Mexico needs to enact the death penalty. Right now if these murderers are actually caught they will at most face a prison term if they even attempt to prosecute. I think I read somewhere that Mexico has less than a 10% conviction rate. Sad

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  11. First time i've ever seen a man's head get taken off by a chainsaw other than the horror movies. But the worst videos to see have got to be the beheadings by knife. That is one of the most painful ways to go out. It is demonic to the extreme.

    These guys went out brave. I would of been shaking, knowing what's about to come and you can't even defend yourself cuz you're tied up. The psychological torture that combines with the physical pain is overwhelming. Even watching it, is tough.

    Why are mexicans so hateful towards each other? This is'nt about money. This is about pure hate.

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  12. Well if some one was fucking with me being a two face MF calling the cops on me or getting me arrested for no reason I will rat them out.
    I have been around gang members and I can tell you they are all rats, they talk about courage but they will only attack on a group and they do things behind your back.
    Most I remained you what a real bitch act like, they act like they have your back to infiltrate your rest. If they have what it takes to fuck with others they should know that sooner or latter it will be their turn.

    Fuck all the cartels and the gang members.

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  13. @ J, at first I thought it was the Beltran Leyvas or one of Chapo enemies doing the execution but at the end of the video it says "This will happen to all snitches 'torretas'" in big red letters. I don't know what 'torretas' means, it may be some cartel lingo or slang. I'm not sure if they are being killed by their own people or if it's a rival doing it.

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  14. Ok, the younger looking gentleman(bald guy) said that he trafficked drugs in Phoenix AZ, and was arrested for that crime. In the video he says his name is Felix Gamez Garcia. But i did some research on the Phoenix AZ subject and found a PAULINO GAMEZ GARCIA, and the mugshot looks very similar to the guy in the video. Check it out please and i want you feedback. http://www.bustedmugshots.com/arizona/phoenix/paulino-gamez-garcia/10994202

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  15. All I have to say is that if Mexico wants to destroy a highly competitive and violent industry that is fueled by the sales of drugs, you need an equally competitive and violent industry that profits from their destruction. If you are a citizen of Mexico, write your lawmakers and request that the letter of marque and reprisal be installed into your constitution. Then issue a Letter of Marque to private companies and authorize them to kill or capture cartel members.

    Give them the license to exterminate this vermin. Allow a 'thousand flowers of death'to bloom in your country, and fire up an offense industry that will profit off the destruction of this enemy.

    Under the terms of the LoM, I would put bounties on every cartel member captures, and bounties would be set by a committee. I would also allow companies to seize the assets of cartels, and ten percent of those assets would go to the government, and the rest would go to that company. Place extremely high bounties on cartel bosses and management, and allow companies to capture and interrogate so they can keep that valuable intel for future operations. Mexico can interrogate and detain after the company has finished.

    Finally, the terms of a LoM and all litigation should be done via a prize court. All companies would also post a surety bond to make sure they do exactly what is required of the LoM.

    There is nothing new here, and if you want to study how this offense industry works, just look up privateering. And what worked on water, can certainly work on land.

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  16. I think it was another cartel/rivals, the whole 'they only paid me xx amount' thing seems to be consistent with the executions of rivals we have seen in other videos, mainly CDG/Zetas. I could be wrong though, and it was internal. But, the money thing, in addition to the 'Chapo's people are not what they say they are' makes sense to me.

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  17. Yeah, that looks like him. Wonder why he gave the wrong name.

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  18. I wonder if this will even be mentioned on Univision or Telemundo. I like how they have about a 2-3 minute daily recap about the war in Mexico. Then they go right back to the how bad whitey is bullshit, E-verify god forbid the people we hired are actually the people we hire.

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  19. I dont think a cartel would put out a video of its own guys being killed for snitching. doesnt make much sense. makes the cartel look weak for even having snitches. no one wants to draw attention to that. had to be rivals, not in house

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  20. He didn't give the wrong name, they arrested him in Phoenix with the wrong name.

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  21. "Matt said...

    All I have to say is that if Mexico wants to destroy a highly competitive and violent industry that is fueled by the sales of drugs, you need an equally competitive and violent industry that profits from their destruction. If you are a citizen of Mexico, write your lawmakers and request that the letter of marque and reprisal be installed into your constitution. Then issue a Letter of Marque to private companies and authorize them to kill or capture cartel members.

    Give them the license to exterminate this vermin. Allow a 'thousand flowers of death'to bloom in your country, and fire up an offense industry that will profit off the destruction of this enemy.

    Under the terms of the LoM, I would put bounties on every cartel member captures, and bounties would be set by a committee. I would also allow companies to seize the assets of cartels, and ten percent of those assets would go to the government, and the rest would go to that company. Place extremely high bounties on cartel bosses and management, and allow companies to capture and interrogate so they can keep that valuable intel for future operations. Mexico can interrogate and detain after the company has finished.

    Finally, the terms of a LoM and all litigation should be done via a prize court. All companies would also post a surety bond to make sure they do exactly what is required of the LoM.

    There is nothing new here, and if you want to study how this offense industry works, just look up privateering. And what worked on water, can certainly work on land.
    September 25, 2011 1:30 AM "
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    The problem with this or ANY solution is the government that would have to OK it and write it into the Mexican constitution is as criminal and corrupt as ANY of the cartels so the LAST think that they want to have implemented is ANY real solutions. That is why ALL we see is more young canon fodder slaughtered for something they do not even understand, they have been made into worthless pawns that shield the top tiers of the psychopathic narcos.

    Things in Mexico are only going to get worse until the world steps in and intervenes...

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  22. I saw this video a few days ago on the other narco websites and it was one of the worst ive seen.Americans need to see stuff like this. Thats what the demand for drugs is doing and also to see how lucky we are to live in comfort and security.
    This is no different from terrorism and we are funding it,

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  23. What a lovely video to be watching at 0630... Why the intense need to Torture ?? Wouldnt a bullet do the same freaking job ? I wish someone could enlighten us as to why.

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  24. what is sad is that they get paid like 28 dollars a month look all stressed and burnt

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  25. I think that this was done by the Sinaloa Cartel because these two guys opened their mouths and said bad things about El Chapo and the Sinaloa Cartel.

    The first guy said that he'd been (here) in Cubiri de la Loma in Sinaloa (Chapo's territory) for 2 and a half months.

    The uncle admitted to being a rat. He says that the people he's working for, you don't want to mess with. Then it ends with: This will happen to all snitches.

    This was a message to anyone who dares to talk bad about El Chapo or snitch and turn their backs on The Sinaloa Cartel.

    These two guys were probably pissed that they were'nt getting paid well by El Chapo and were probably rambling at the mouth and underestimated El Chapo's power in a small town. They probably had no money to get back and were stuck. So they should of kept their mouths shut.

    In the video, you can tell that they were both really pissed at the people who were about to kill them and were ready to die and went out with balls. But it was a huge mistake to talk bad about El Chapo in his territory.

    The chainsaw part is Crazy. When the guy's head comes off, his eyeballs pop out of their sockets. you can see these white balls jump out from both directions.

    They had to have been drugged out cuz when the chainsaw hits the nephew, he does'nt even budge. They probably told the hard-headed guys that if they were to confess that they would allow them to go out as painless as possible. But these guys knew that they were already in the history books.

    The mexican narco lifestyle is a sick lifestyle full of snitches, traitors, liars, hypocrites. The creme de la creme of scumbags.

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  26. The guys doing the killing are beltranes.

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  27. They weren't on drugs, they were in shock.

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  28. I watched this last night. It's a sick, sick world we live in. You really have to feel for these guys when you see the uncle look at the chain saw knowing what's coming and when the other guy looked down at the headless body after it was done.

    Something seriously wrong with humanity.

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  29. That video has to be probably the worst Narco execution video! or just worst execution video for that matter. Its insanely cruel! damn the sick bastards who do this kind of stuff to send their poxy messages. The older guy died much quicker than the younger guy and its very disturbing hearing the young guy squeal in sheer panic as his head was severed, man it sounds like some kind of demon or something. I hope at least they are at peace and are just hugging each other saying its all over but anyway that's just how I think.

    I hope also that a narco but someone not deeply involved in a cartel just see's this vid and says f**k this i'm gone! and quits messin with drugs and criminals.

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  30. Why did we let this happen to our country what are we going to tell our childern that we let these guys take over just because they're brutal, use terrorist tactics, psychological warfare and have money? Lets steal from them fight them with thier own resocres start a organized Guerrilla unit and i am down with it... Cartels are not Cartels they are terrorist a insurgency and have broken the codes of honor and have steped on our mother land time to wake up! The Government ain't doing shit all they do is lock them up they pay and get out and fuck with the people so yes lets rebel. Remeber they have a weak side they use drugs, drink a lot, shity diets, look like they don't sleep a lot, are fat and don't excersie. all of this counts i combat trust me :).

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  31. I bey they thought they were bad asses before they got caught now they fertilizer

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  32. beltranes killed then. Those uniforms are just like the ones the beltranes wear and they also called a cell of chapo "torretas" (torres)

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  33. The Beltran leyvas are the ones who finished these guys people.if chap was so powerful he would of contrpled all Sinaloa but the Beltran leyvas are no joke people even el mayo zambadas son who is busted in Chicago told the federal court in trial that the Beltran leyvas are powerful! And they are they have half of sinaloas plazas!! But anyway fuck the Beltran leyvas Zetas and Juarez..

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  34. @ buggs
    Where did you see the video a few days ago? BDN just posted it yesterday

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  35. I can only hope Napolitano see's this and realizes we had a drug runner in custody and he went back to Mexico and pissed somebody off again.... God Help Mexico.... legal or not, you all need to arm yourselves.

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  36. @September 25, 2011 9:30 AM

    What makes you think BDN holds the market for these videos? BDN go it from another blog, even Mundo Narco posted way before BDN;
    http://www.mundonarco.com/2011/09/video-en-donde-decapitan-con-una-sierra.html

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  37. Come on people did you guys even watch the video? The guy clearly mentions that he worked as a sicario for el cholo a high ranking sicario for el chapo guzman in Guamuchil sinaloa also he mentioned he was asked to ride in a convoy with the millitary to Los Mochis Sinaloa to heat up the plaza,Beltran Leyva turf.This guy was killed most likely by Beltran Leyvas.

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  38. i have a feeling it was the beltranes, the guy that explained how it was El chapo, I like his reasoning but there is no point of making this video viral... But who knows, maybe they were snitches.. But I have a feeling they were spying on the Beltranes, or just fighting them in Sinaloa, and they wanted to make a statement.. The old man talks about the CDS and how they are not how people think they are. He probably meant that being with the CDS is not as luxurious as people think, you dont get to drive nice cars, they kill innocents, etc... I think that is what he tried to say, think about it, everyone praises the CDS. Its a video that is trying to stop CDS recruitment efforts in Sinaloa.. I honestly believe everything the old man said, he said sincerely. Dont get in this business, even as a snitch...
    My 2 cents..

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  39. here is the response to the death of Vicente Carillo's nephew..
    http://www.blogdelnarco.com/2011/09/aparecen-narcomantas-en-chihuahua.html
    are they calling themselves the new juarez cartel?

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  40. Maybe we never know. its said than beltranes killed them. But why they say you have to think twice before poner el dedo? beltranes killed them because they were snitched on CDS? thats not make sense to me.

    Also we dont have to belive everything they say, those guys are in contrarios hands and if they dont say wath they want they will be tortured before get kill. 300 pesos come one, but for a halcon thats the regular pay.

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  41. "Perhaps we may never know", come on borderlandbeat who else could it be,theres only one cartel that has turf in Sinaloa other then the Sinaloa Cartel,and thats the Beltran Leyva, this was obviously done by either los mazatlecos or gatilleros del chapo isidro.The fact that this guy was operating in Guamuchil and Los Mochis proves it.This people were most likely caught in Los mochis by the rival BL because he mentioned that he was sent in a military convoy to that city,and that city is heavily guarded by los Mazatlecos and chapo isidro.He mentions that that was one of the last things he did for el chapo guzmans top sicario el cholo,who is having a fierce war against el chapo isidro in Guamuchil and Los Mochis.

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  42. This goes to show the situation in mx thats why I dont even go over there for anything. Calderon should have a response to this instead of crying about stopping the flow guns every chance he gets when hes over here. Just to think these same people are already here and have been here the only difference is here they dont get as messy.

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  43. @10:17 am What he meant by is not worth to point the finger or snitch is that is not worth it,he was an halcon (lookout)/sicario and he was doing this against the beltran leyvas,not the sinaloa cartel.Why would he snitch on its own?its obvious he meant dont snitch on anyone period

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  44. I did see the video, and yes I am not limited to BDN, I saw it before it was posted there a couple of days ago. The sicarios actually put their signature at the end of the video; “Esto les va pasar a todos los DEDOS, TORRETAS”.

    Torretas = The Torres group of El Chapo who control most of the area in Sinaloa. It appears they were killed for "talking" or "dedos" and now that we find out they lost a "load" and possibly some "money" in the US, the whole thing makes more sense.

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  45. At first, I thought that they were killed by the Beltran Leyva Cartel too. But the truth is, they were killed by the Sinaloa Cartel for showing disrespect to El Chapo.

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  46. both of these scumbags went out the way they deserved to and very soon down the line the guys that did this will receive the same fate.

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  47. If these guys were causing trouble in the Sinaloa cartel they worked for then I don't get why they would video and broadcast executions for things which happened in their OWN cartel?! As we all know usually these things are done as intimidation and threats for rival cartels. Why would they film this and put it out if they are not aiming it at an enemy cartel?

    Someone must not have their facts straight about who and why these 2 were killed and who'm did it. Seems somethings obviously amiss. If anyone can understand Spanish then pls try translate some of this for us.

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  48. I'm 100% positive, that picture is of one of the victims. It makes sense that he did'nt lose, but stole a load of drugs from the CDS then went back to Mexico.

    But I ask the question, "why so stupid to go back to Mexico?".

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  49. You could be right ajulio, but why not sign it as ATTENTAMENTE:torretas, why not sign it by the sinaloa cartel or better yet if they disrespected chapo,why not sign it as chapo guzman?? These had to be rivals,BL.

    An execution of your own would cause controversy,also they would of never allowed him to say that he got paid 27$A Month.That makes chapo and his cartel look cheap,lame. I think what they meant was" ESTO LES VA A PASAR A TODOS LOS DEDOS TORRETAS" even if it did have a comma it still reffering to los Torrestas as snitches,its not signed by them.

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  50. @10:36

    So the msg is you dont have to snitch on your enemies wich you are at war to death?? so confuse man, that's supposed to be their job.

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  51. @ajulio, hard to believe it but its probably true. Expecially considering how he just stood there and took the chain. They probably told him that his family was going to get it next if he didn't comply.. BUt this video makes Chapo look bad, when you need to post videos of what is going to happen to the people that flip on you means that there are a lot of people flipping on them. It means one thing, they are losing control of their own... Bad sign..

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  52. Why so confused????? Don't limit yourself with just reading the trash at BDN!

    He was killed for snitching to authorities, not for doing his job. They taped it so other halcones working for them saw it and it sends a clear message, snitch and this will happen to you too. It was not meant to scare the rival gangs, comprehende?

    And it ws not signed by El Chapo because they were not killed by El Chapo, they were killed by his cartel.

    He went back to Mexico, because he did not want to do time, that is why he paid bail in the first place. I am sure there is an active warrant for his arrest, if you think about it, where does a Mexican national caught with a load of drugs get $20,000?

    It is easy to think the killers are BL without any evidence other than the BL are rivals of CDS or the BL controls the area (which I dispute), but read the writing inside the box!

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  53. Every beheading is just as gruesome as this one. Just as these guys feared their fate, so does everyone that faces it. These were 2 very poor men that were doing whatever they could to survive in a tough place in very tough times. Theses aren't "criminal cockroaches", they are common men that can't find jobs and the cartels have consumed all the land to grow marijuana. From what i gather, like several of y'all, they worked for CDS and passed information about the Beltrans' and were discovered. It really disturbs me that this type of serial killing has become so sensationalized and growing so fast. Killing like this is little more than watching a rooster kill another. There is no value on human life. And to see the females head on the statue and body lying next to it in the previous article really gets me (an innocent victim). I am very glad that wasn't filmed.

    Mexico must find a leader that has the ability to demand cartels draw territorial lines, commit to a truce, and stop the organized crimes against the public. Calderon doesn't care enough about the common people to do this. Peace may not come until the cartels knock the problematic CDS leaders off their pedestals.

    I followed the serial killings of women in Juarez for years always expecting sooner or later their would be a break in the case. In my heart, I always knew justice would prevail. It never did and all the women killed prior to September 2001, have passed the 10 year statute of limitation in Mexico. I wonder if we are witnessing a similar failure due to completely corrupt federal, state and local governments.

    I wonder what the chances of getting busted for murder in Mexico are?
    Is it 1 % or less? That is some government, huh?

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  54. @11:39 am

    I agree. These things never make a cartel look good but i'm sure they happen all the time. Some shmuck thinks that he can pinch from a load of drugs and get away with it. Or some pendejo starts talking to the wrong people and underestimates a cartels' network. But the whole point of this message is to warn anyone else who dares to steal or snitch on the CDS. That this will happen to you.....Speaking of snitches, El Chapo is the biggest "Snitch" of them all. How fucken ironic is that?


    @ 11:36 am

    You got a point but seems like they were killed in Cubiri de la loma (El chapo's territory) in Sinaloa. I don't think that another cartel would do this in this region of mexico. The guy even told the truth about who he was and where he was from (Phoenix) so when he says he's in Sinaloa and that he was working for El Chapo, I believe that he's speaking the truth. These videos are also like confessions for the victims.

    The video speaks for itself. There's really no reason for El Chapo to put his name in big letters. That's not his style. This is not a CDS torture video. It's a warning video to those who steal or snitch.

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  55. @12:11 PM...He would only need to put 10% of the $20,000 down to post bail. He said derogatory things about CDS not paying people well and not being all they claim to be. I don't think it was directed at their own and done by CDS because of this, unless CDS is trying to make it low end people understand they are working for almost nothing and better like it. And it has the feel that the perps are saying this will happen to all the fingers that pass information on to the other side. It is way to stout a message to be directed at internal snitching. They all know what will happen if you snitch on your own.

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  56. You people are ignorant to think that the sinaloa wouldnt do this to their own, it makes an example out of them and a warning to other low level halcones etc to shut up about their low pay and take what crumbs daddy chapo says you should have. They were probably promised higher pay after they proved themselves and after being around a while they realized they were doing more and more "WORK" without getting a raise so they started complaining and made their leaders mad who were probably pocketing the pay that was suppose to go to them...when it became an issue the higher level sicarios framed them as traitors and snitches and killed them to keep chapo from knowing the real reason why.

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  57. @12:11

    Most likely killed by Beltranes, no matter what these guys have said, at the end of the video. I can reed a warning to los Torres, why CDS will threaten their own people, i mean, one thing is to warn snitches, but other is to mention a well know name in the cartel, its like say ''this will hapen to the Zambadas, o Esparragozas''. Also los Torres have personal problems with los Beltran, remember Tachio.

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  58. You guys are dumb,TORRETAS is how beltran leyvas call Manuel Torres group of sicarios which el cholo is a mid level leader which commands his own groups which these guys were a part of.Torretas is the derogatory way of reffering to them.They wouldnt refer to themselves that way.

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  59. @11:39 The message is clear this is whats gonna happen to all the Torretas who are snitching or working as halcones.Torretas are part of the sinaloa cartel,so the rival had to be the one behind this, not to mention their trying to scare away new recruits for the sinaloa cartel.

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  60. To all those people that dont speak spanish,and cant understand the part where hes being interrogated everything was pretty much well interpreted in the article,borderlandbeat did a great job,but everyone seem to missing a very key part of what he mentioned,he also said throught his time working for el cholo,a top sicario for el chapo guzman,he was also ordered to go up to coronel of the military or police and that thats were he gave radios of communication that supposibly belonged to los "contras",or the rivals.Most likey that communication equipment belonging to the faction loyal fo alfredo beltran leyva,and led by el chapo isidro,there that being one of the reason why they were killed.

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  61. I think the chainswaw is actually more humane than the knife. The guy died pretty quick, whereas the other man suffered much more.

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  62. 12:37 Ajulio they werent killed in cubiri de la loma.That were he said he arrived when he came down from phoenix and if you know where thats at you would know that its in Sinaloa de Leyva,Sinaloa where beltran leyvas also have people working for them en la sierra growing weed but also chapos has people working.Sinaloa de Leyva is in dispute,by chuy y nacho gonzalez these last two the armed wings of chapo isidro,who remains loyal to BL and el cholo,Manuel Torres on chapos side.

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  63. If these guys were killed by their own people/CDS then why would the killers make the victims confess that they were working with a military colonel and his troops, the victims also name several high ranking CDS members and general info about them. Why would CDS shoot themselves in the foot by making their own people confess about CDS and military corruption backing CDS, it just doesn't make any sense. It's probably Beltran Leyvas, I don't think Sinaloa Cartel will shoot itself in the foot by making their own people confess about military and Sinaloa Cartel ties before they kill their supposed "snitches". Also why would the killers let the victims talk bad about their own boss on video and 21 dollars a month just adds more evidence that these guys were not killed by Cartel de Sinaloa?

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  64. Al llegar al patíbulo cuando los soldados se disponían a fusilarla alzó su voz y gritó: "¡PUEBLO INDOLENTE! ¡Cuán distinta sería hoy vuestra suerte si conocierais el precio de la libertad! Pero no es tarde. Ved que, mujer y joven, me sobra valor para sufrir la muerte y mil muertes más. ¡No olvidéis este ejemplo!" Policarpa Savalarrieta

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  65. Horrible acts of violence. What else can you do though? Thanks for the entertainment Mexico.

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  66. This is the first video of its kind done in Sinaloa, thanks to the Beltran - Zeta cartels.

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  67. This is just another example of "mans inhumanity to man". It has not reached the level of the Japanese or Germans or Bosnians but it will. Until the people rise up against the corruption in government it will not end. The u.s. is the model for how to develop corruption at all levels of government. Homeland Security (300,000 employees and $60billion/year, the ATF, DEA, DOJ, etc. and things are not improving but is getting worse. From previous articles the u.s. has picked Enrique Pena Nieto for Mexico's next president so don't expect change. It is not about the drugs, extortions, etc. --it is all about the money and power of the political elite on both sides of the border. Soon alcohol and tobacco will be more profitable than the harder drugs.

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  68. Why not just shoot with a bullet in the head, now they have to clean the place or clean their clothes?

    But this is fucking inhuman, the whole drugs war is inhuman. Why not legalize the shit, so war stops and all the people can make money.

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  69. Legalising drugs is the only way to stop this inhumanity.

    The scum responsible for this have no morales, money is all they care about.
    The drugs cartel would be extinct if drugs were legalised, money from production could be distributed to the innocent who have to live along side these sub human life forms.

    Of course there'd still be criminals but a more prosperous general population and the lack of 'easy' money would cut off their life supply

    Do the scum who do this have families of their own, friends and loved ones? Do they care they are killing their own?

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  70. The manuel mendez video was done in mochis. thats were they found his body. and cubiri de la loma is not chapos territory. its close to sinaloa de leyva and guasave donde el chapito isidro se la lleva escondido en la sierra.
    and of course this video was done by the beltran leyva. cds wouldnt want ppl to know they pay only 300 pesos for jobs but im sure they told him to say that.
    & the older guys name is Bernabe Gamez Castro. goggle it and see he got arrested 2 yrs ago.

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  71. @September 25, 2011 3:22 PM

    Stihl and Husqvarna are not American products... But point was good! :)

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  72. @September 25, 2011 9:30 AM<<<<idiot.....why would you think that blog del narco is first at every thing...

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  73. Well, that surely is the the nephew. no doubt about that mugshot. Good investigating! Seems likely he leaked too much info., lost the load, and probably used money for the 10% needed to bond. Don't know how quickly he was able to bond out and what happened, to him this summer, between then and now to be used as an example of what not to do if you work for Chapo. Maybe there was even another snitching episode more recently? Just don't work for Chapo. There be no future in it.

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  74. so fucked up, nothing else to say about this.

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  75. Could this happen to a tourist? Have they gone that far yet? Anyone know? They say it's all drug related but I find it hard to believe that 12 women and 2 minors are involve in this kind of shit. (From the other day under the bridge.)

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  76. @September 25, 2011 4:41 PM

    It can happen to anyone who's not aware. Wrong word wrong place, wrong place wrong time. If you got kidnapped, you actually are dead already no matter if they got money from you or not.

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  77. Wow...I understand why they do this, it sends a pretty strong message to anyone thinking of informing. Say what you want, but I could care less if this happened to a snitch. They know the consequences of such action, especially when dealing with a VIOLENT MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL. Hell, even here in America people get killed for informing. The cartels just do it in extreme ways because it is a strong deterrent.

    With that said, it's still disturbing; but when I think about how some of these guys grew up and the things they have seen being "enforcers" for a cartel, I can see how they could be so ruthless. Some people are just straight killers. And for people acting like this doesn't happen in America -- read up on Tommy "Karate" Pitera, former hitman for the Bonanno family. He personally dismembered at least 5 people with a knife while himself butt naked in a bathtub with water running; then put the bodies in suitcases and buried them near the William T. Davis Wildlife Refuge in New York. He buried them so deep and so well that police cadaver dogs couldn't locate the scent. He's suspected of over 60 murders -- and if the police can "get information on" that many, there are probably many more they have no clue about.

    This stuff happens in America, but Mafia and other criminal organizations know to do things like this then get rid of the bodies and not say a word about it. They know better than to make a video about it.

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  78. I was watching a show where Calderon takes a white dude, a European reporter I believe, on a 'Royal Tour' around Mexico. Never, not once, did I hear the reporter ask him anything about the drug wars. The reporter does narrate his research into the subject of the cartel wars but he never directly confronts the president about it. It was Calderon's way of showing, or more likely a vain attempt to prove to the outside world that Mexico is not as fucked up as the media makes it out to be. I just kept shaking my head at the missed opportunities to get him to explain just what the hell is his plan to get rid of the cartels, because up to now I have not seen any real offensive strategy. All we see is reactionary forces arriving and leaving when they've calmed things or believe they've calm things down, but never securing any vast areas or removing any one cartel per se. If the Russians could've defeated the Nazis single handedly then these cartel idiots can be rounded up, shot, and dumped into a pit as well.

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  79. @September 25, 2011 5:22 PM:

    I just saw that show the other day -- I immediately thought the same thing. He did not mention a SINGLE WORD about the drug war or deaths. They went "zip-lining" in some forest with Calderon's kids, and went to see butterflies in some other forest. I also noticed they made sure not to show ANY security/bodyguards in the episode; if Calderon really goes around like they portrayed in the show, he would have been assassinated years ago. It didn't show a single bodyguard.

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  80. It does also make sense that it's the Beltran Leyva's who did this. These two guys were probably placed in a bad situation and maybe abandoned by the Sinaloa cartel and were pissed because they were not protected by the cartel that they worked for and to top it off, they were under-paid to sacrifice their lives. Maybe they were used as stool-pigeons.

    Maybe the cartel that did this did'nt put their name because they did'nt want to place direct heat on themselves by the CDS and the government.

    First they explain who they are; then they explain their affiliation to El Chapo's gang; then they say how bad El Chapo's organization treats it's people; finally they say goodbye.......But what they were really thinking was, Fuck All of these Piece of Shit Cartels! They are all Scum and now we're about to get our heads cut off! We should of Never joined these Fucken Mexican cartels! I should of kept my fat ass in Phoenix, ARIZONA!!!

    Crime does not pay for the lil' guys.

    Rest in piece Pendejos.

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  81. sept 25 @ 5:22PM
    with respect to Calderon and drug Questions. he was in the bay area cali couple mos back, had a town meeting invited questions, the first was a drug question, he was so pissed he left the stage. end of town meeting.....move ahead to last week in LA, they "invited"100 supporters and the press. had Qs but the media was not allowed to aks any and the audience was warned no drug questions.

    that is how mx is, under the cloak of secrets.



    Kudos to Chivo for the excellent investigative work he posted on forum, criminal record and mug shot.

    and Buggs excellent post..thanks

    this is different and disturbling on so many levels..

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  82. Maybe they should show this video to all the highschools in mexico to scare away the teenagers who are considering joining a cartel after they graduate. Kinda like the movies with all the car accidents, that they showed us in driver's ed. that were used to scare us from driving irresponsibly.

    These videos could be used to show the evil side of the drug business and the consequenses because this business is one sick and demented way of life. Only considered normal by the devil's standards.

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  83. @September 25, 2011 5:22 PM

    Here you are: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/110825/mexican-resorts-calderon-the-royal-tour-drug-violence

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  84. If Dalai Lama says it's safe, IT IS!

    http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/news/regions/americas/mexico/dalai-lama-mexico-not-so-violent

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  85. I can't believe what I just watched. After seeing this, I will never set one foot in mexico for as long as I live. Mexico is satin's new home.

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  86. did you guys notice at the 3:19 mark, his eyes pop out when being hit with the chainsaw

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  87. Ferra ya estubo Ferra!!!...bien puto

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  88. The problem is that kids teenagers or adults join the Sinaloa Cartel thinking that they will automatically be protected,and respected and thats bullshit.What they dont know is that just how they have groups of killers dedicated to hunt the enemy, so do the Beltran leyvas ,not to mention los zetas or Juarez Cartel.So for anyone thinking of joining the Sinaloa Cartel,you should maybe first investigate who the Beltran Leyvas,Zetas,Juarez really are,and how they treat their enemies.And that goes for anyone who wants to join any cartel,look at what your facing,and then decide if its worth it.

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  89. Ajulio what makes you think it was his own cartel?He said he healt directly with el cholo,he was a trusted member of the Sinaloa Cartel,nowhere in the video did he ever mentioned he was being punished by his own,even at the end he says that everything he did was not worth it,and was most likely told to say he gets paid miserably,to make chapo look bad.Theres is no evidence that supports what youre saying.The fact that he mentioned that he turned in radios of communication that belonged to the rival cartel proves it,this guy was snitching on his rival,the beltran leyvas,and they were both caught and decapitated for it.

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  90. THIS IS HOW COWARDS KILL…A BULLET TO THE HEAD WOULD HAVE DONE IT!

    IF YOU WANT TO PROVE YOUR MAN HOOD…GET THE TOP HEADS LIKE EL CHAPO, LAZCANO, EL H OR MAYO AND CUT THEIR HEADS OFF. THAT WOULD BE IMPRESSING, NOT KILLING THESE GUYS WHICH DON’T EVEN HAVE ANYONE TO GUARD THEM. PINCHES MAMADAS DE JOTOS!

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  91. @ 6:57 pm

    Yeah, i see how it was most likely done by a rival. A lot of great comments. I read every single one of them and see how it was most likely not done by the CDS.

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  92. yet guys like chapo sit back in a mansion somewhere enjoying the worlds best champagne and caviar. I bet you $1000 they sit back and jerk off to these videos regardless of who is getting snuffed. They probably laugh their assess off.

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  93. FYI that picture above is not the guy getting a moon roof on his neck. I would suggest you pull it down....

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  94. MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THEIR SOULS, MAY HE COMFORT THE FAMILIES DURING THEIR GRIEVING, THESE MEN WERE NO SAINTS BUT THEY DESERVED BETTER THAN THEY GOT.

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  95. How do you find mug shots and arrests for misdemeanors? In the US of course.

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  96. Leave it to George fucking W Bush to waste our tax monies on a fruitless war in Iran and Afghanistan when we should be kicking these cartel asses. Saw that Border Wars show and the Texas police and helicopter were following an SUV loaded with Marijuana for 20 miles from Texas to the Rio Grande river. Mother fuckers drove into the Rio Grande and their cartel buddies were in boats waiting for them. Helicopter and ground border patrol agents should have opened up on them. But no, they got away. So, tell me why we are wasting our fucking time in these Middle Eastern countries when our own country is being fucked. Fuck you mother fucking Republicans and Obama for not having the balls to put our troops on the border.

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  97. @7:59 PM
    It's probably his brother in that mugshot?

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  98. It certainly does look like the guy in the mugshot. Either that or he has an identical twin

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  99. How many Americans have gotten caught up in this? Innocent ones? I have to say as a guy that has been there alot... I'm actually scared. They have zero respect for life. Has the US made any travel advisories? And if so... To where? It seems as though it's every where! How bout our great nation... When will they try these tactics on our soil? Or have they already....

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  100. im planning 2 travel 2 Mexico (Poza Rica) but now after this video i dont know! do things like this happen 2 tourist too? NEED SOME FEEDBACK alias-EL BARBAS

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  101. 9:19 PMA hit costs less than $50 in Juarez. There is no regard for human life. If they thought you had $50 in your pocket, you would be open game. And the US doesn't intervene. I use to go all the time and I have many friends there. I haven't been there since 2007. I won't go back until there is a truce and plaza bosses stop extortion and kidnapping. Just don't go. What would be the purpose?

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  102. Los torres is a low level traffic fam that work with cds in san Luis ran by señor de la silla

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  103. I viewing the video I was surprised to see the rather blase attitude of the victims...especially when their own butchering commenced. Here were an uncle and nephew naked shoulder to shoulder against an old adobe wall "knowing" the bloody fate was imminent.

    Then, the chainsaw is turned on and the victims hardly looked concerned. They both passively allowed themselves to be killed without any sign of last moment resistance.

    At one point the nephew looks askance at his beheaded uncle with a "no big deal" kind of look.

    Then, he allows the knife wielding butcher to take his throat and start his clumsy beheading.

    This video will be a classic in many psychiatry/psychology classes. There is much in the social and behavioral sciences to learn here.

    Mexico Watcher

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  104. *10;22pm, thanx 4 you feedback, and my purpose of going would be 2 visit my family, so even thou im not involve in with any cartels, its still not a good idea 2 go 2 Mexico (Poza Rica)? alias- EL BARBAS

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  105. I pray these men were not “sicarios” themselves as they will truly be in a world of hurt when they stand before our FATHER in Heaven. But still, my condolences go out to their family...

    It appears that the nephew’s misery was designed to last longer than the uncle. The uncle’s decapitation lasted 30 seconds while the nephew’s lasted a whole lot longer.

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  106. i personally like the massive brain trauma that el tio had to go through to cause such immediate massive swelling and pressure to cause his eyes to jump out of his head like fish headed upstream. Also the neck cavity pumping out blood with every heartbeat after the head was sawed off was nice. The younger scumbag no doubt had a load of shit on those size 40 pants.

    See kids this is what happens when you join a cartel. i hope they all do each other like this.

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  107. I saw it o mundonarco.com on tuesday or wednesday night.it was just released.

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  108. I don't think this was CDS doing this to their own. It's not CDS style, they don't publicize these videos. Chapo and his crew have no interest in video taping the execution of two of their own even if they lose a load in the states. In the drug business there are losses and that was most likely a petty loss and chump change to the cartel. This was Beltran Leyva who video taped this to try and intimidate all Sinaloa supporters and workers I analyze no other way but them doing this in Sinaloa where they hold a good pressence with loyal followers. These guys were probably not at the higharchy of the cartel because this only seems to happen to the guys who don't have protection or arms to defend themselves. All the rest are well guarded and protected, they can't easily be picked up and executed like this. These guys went out in a rough way but as soon as they were picked up they knew their fate, they assumed the worst. If you get picked up by the opposing cartel, your most likely not going to get the best treatment. Torture to spill the beans and executred in a horrible way seem to be the way the cartel hit squads go about. No justification to these actions but the civil drug war in Mexico between " Mexicans against Mexicans " is on a different level. The CDS hate Beltran and the Beltran hate CDS but with a passion, a very evil passion. This is what is happening on a daily basis in Mexico and the end seems no where in sight.

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  109. 8:37

    the CDS had already a few execution videos so dont talk shit before you do research The beltrans are getting their ass kicked in sinaloa jajajajaja

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  110. Whoever made this video - why make it so unclear who the hell you are?

    If you are going to videotape a brutal chainsaw murder, you'd think you'd want to make it ultra clear who you are and what its for. Now everyone is speculating, we dont even know if its chapo or BL. Mission not accomplished

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  111. 10:20 AM
    I think he meant there have been no videos of Sinaloa taping executions of there own employees. They have released videos before of executions but not near as many as la linea, Beltran-Zetas, GN has video taped them in Chihuahua but against la line. I also believe he meant in Sinaloa there have been no known videos there between two fractions.

    Just saying,,,,

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  112. this is calderon psy-ops.

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  113. People still don't get it.
    It is the massive economic drive force of selling drugs that is behind all this. Make it legal, or stop the consumptions, and the rest is gone.

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  114. In Mexico they will kill you for petty shit. You don't have to be a murderous cartel hitman to get offfed. For the sake of money sicarios will kill for a measily $500 pesos which is less than $50 USDLLS. These guys cea lo que cea went out with balls, they knew they were going to get killed and they didn't break down crying nevered pleaded and took it as it came. In Sinaloa and elsewhere ay much gente que train la camisa bien puesta. Which means they will die for their cause, may it be right, wrong or indifferent. It's the mentality they have and you nor anybody else will tell them elswise. Yes it's ignorant on their part but to them they have nothing else, have no other opportunities. The rich and wealthy in Mexico see no wrong to this because they feel untouchable until it directly affects them. But this shit happens daily in Mexico it's just not video taped all the time. If it was we would have 40K+ executions on BB, BDN etc...It is hard to see these type of executions because we are no one to judge these two guys, did they deserve to go out like this? These guys had families and it's has to be the hardest thing to see this online knowing you know that person.

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  115. It's called greed between too many drug cartels. Drugs will never cease to exist but it's called not allowing someone else prosper within your own business and this is cut throat to the T. It's not just a narco war between the goverment and drug cartels. It's a war between Zetas-Leyvas-Linea against CDG-CJNG-CDS-GN this a pure hate-greed driven war that is destroying Mexico and generations to come. If your Mexican and proud like myself you should be saddened to see how the country is dividing itself all for the root of all evils " el billete "

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  116. Wedding in cabo.... How are thing looking down there? Thanx

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  117. Bones,it doesnt take a genious to figure out that the ones recording this video are Beltran.The uniforms the sicarios are wearing,the fact these two work for CDS,the fact they admitted to being snitches,also the clear warning to los Torres,in a derogatory way,and to top it off they say they got paid miserably by the CDS.They fact they didnt sign as Beltran Leyva is because im pretty sure the message was still clearly understood by los torres,im pretty sure they know who it was.

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  118. Every country should issue a warning to not even think about visiting Mexico.

    Corruption from all systems: the wealthy, military, courts, hospitals, legislative bodies...and now the men are forcing their women and children to become killers...SINFUL BEYOND MEASURE!!

    Mexico is in deep deep trouble and is degenerating into something unrelentingly savage.

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  119. WTF SOME THING NEEDS TO BE DONE ALREADY

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  120. I cry for humanity. No one deserves this. I cannot begin to relate to the people who are capable of these kinds of horrors. Is there nothing more atrocious than what evil humans are capable of?

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  121. This is by far the craziest thing ive ever seen.!!!!Mexicos crazy!!!!

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  122. I'm American and watched this execution. As a nation that has a disgusting drug habit that fuels this way of life, I am appalled that the moron currently running this country, Obama, much like the moron before him, bush, is not doing more to deal with this issue.

    e should be sending troops in to hunt this monsters down. I think deploying our military for this humane task is certainly much better than invading Iraq and Afghanistan.

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  123. You simply CANNOT send our troops,all these mother fucking bastards will simply run and hide ,maybe go home to mama.They dont and will never have the balls to stand up to our armed forces.no son pendejos.

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  124. Their you go again Americans. Deploying troops into Mexico is always your answer to stop whats happening there, what really makes you believe that their going to save the day in Mexico? Their invading Iraq and Afghanistan, and whats going on over there, nothing, they still haven't wiped out the taliban's or alqeada. They been their for over 10yrs! so what makes you believe it would be different invading Mexico?

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  125. They were kids at some point....sad

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  126. @September 26, 2011 6:10 PM

    Do you have no conception of the situation and politics? Obama did not start the War in Afghanistan or Iraq. Bush and the REPUBLICANS did that.

    Obama has ended the war in Iraq like he promised. He has hunted and killed bin Laden which Bush could not accomplish in 8 years (the decision, I must add, he made took a lot of BALLS. He had no verifiable proof OBL was there and if he hadn't been, the fact we invaded Pakistan airspace and led an assault without notifying them, there would be huge shitstorm if he hadn't been there.)

    Further, Mexico nor it's citizens would EVER, EVER, allow US troops on their soil. Period. At best, they would have to send SEALS or whatever in with Mexican special forces and keep it under the highest levels of secrecy so it was never known. I doubt the MX government would ever even allow that though. It's so ridiculous reading comments on this website so often of this macho bullshit from American's saying "Send 3 SEALS in and they would kill every drug trafficker in the country with 7 hands tied behind their back. GO USA MACHO RAHHHH!!!!!!

    What is Obama supposed to do? Invade Mexico and start another war on our huge southern border while fighting a stalemate war halfway across the world that has us overextended as is? The problem of drugs will not be solved by brute force alone, period. Even if you nuked Mexico off the face of the earth, a new country would emerge to take it's place, probably Canada. Nuke Canada? It will still continue.

    Obama has done more in 3 years than Bush did in 8 years. Bush got us where we are at, the economy, the war, everything. Look at the source and root cause of all these things, they all happened with Bush in office. Obama came into office and inherited the problems and was told fix it or be raked over the coals. I'd like to see how you would fix the country as president.

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  127. @5:57 PM: You are incorrect
    Calderon is a corrupt president and also a whiner. Since 2006 there have been over 40,000 deaths in various parts of Mexico that is attributed to the cartels alone. This is a staggering amount of citizens to lose in only a 5 year period. The citizens are now finding Calderon useless and is starting to say so. Calderon cannot handle this negative resentment from his own people, and is now starting to shift blame to anywhere outside his corrupt administration.

    I can only imagine the firestorm his whining would cause if U.S. were to send troops over there! "U.S. Gringos Killing Our Sicarios (Hitmen)." Talk about a mess the U.S. would never recover from...

    This action would also place U.S. troops in graver danger than Iraq or Afghan because many of the Mexican soldiers & police we think are our allies could and would be undercover cartel members/informers.

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  128. CORRECTION: Comment given to 5:57 PM Should be directed @ 6:10 PM

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  129. tHIS IS TRUELY EVIL,INHUMANE AND i HOPE ALL THESE KILLERS GO BURN WITH SATAN WHEN THEY DIE.SELLING DRUGS TO SUPPORT YOUR FAMILY IS ONE THING IN mEXICO, BUT THESE KILLERS ARE ANOTHER. MEXICAN OFFICIALS ARE SO CORRUPTED IT'S HARD TO CHARGE ANYONE WITH ANYTHING.THANK GOD THE PRESIDENT CRACKED DOWN AND GOT ALL THE CARTELS MEMBERS,DRUGS,WEAPONS, AMMO AND MONEY. IT'S A START. AMERICA HAS TO SPEND ALOT OF $ AND TIME TO SECURE OUR BORDERS SO THIS CRAP DON'T GET IN. IF WE WERE TO SEND IN SPECIAL OPS, MILITARY..IT WOULDN'T BE AS FAST N EASY AS PEOPLE THINK AND ALOT OF INNOCENTS WOULD BE KILLED.

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  130. PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE GAVE A FALSE NAME IN ARIZONA CUZ IT WASN'T HIS 1ST RODEO. IF UR CAUGHT 3 TIMES U DO TIME IN USA. THEY CAN'T CHECK MADE UP NAMES BUT PUT A FINGER PRINT TO THE NAME N GO FROM THERE. THEY ARE JUST DEPORTED AND HE PROBABLY WAS CAUGHT A COUPLE TIMES OR AT LEAST ONCE WITH AN ID HIS REAL NAME AND NEVER CARRIED IT AGAIN, SO FALSE NAMES KEEP YOU OUT OF JAIL AND OUT OF TROUBLE WITH WHATEVER CARTEL U WORK FOR. ZETA'S, SIMONIAN, GULF COAST WHATEVER. THEY ALL SHOULD BE BOUNTIED SO GOOD CITIZENS CAN GO ON HUNTS, BRING THE BODIES IN A GET AN AWARD. LIKE FOX OR PIG HUNTING.

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  131. I cant believe the guy with the knife,its like nothing to him.I've cut a chicken for dinner and was kinda grossed out.

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  132. Why the fu*k don't the victims ever resist in these kind of videos? They can spit, bite and tell the executioners to go fu*k themselves and say that they are the ones getting f*cked sooner or later anyways.

    On the other hand, the cartels taping this are only showing when they succeed in killing it's opponents.
    It's like the show "Cops" when they show the cops victorious in every episode.
    I guess many people have resisted and so on but the cartels won't show it, they wanna show when their victims are the most scared and don't resist.

    The only execution video that I would be glad to see would be of all the cartel leaders, when they have shitted themselves and have a machete against their throats. Now that's something...

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  133. To all those talking smack about visiting México, Im an American citizen living in Mexico, Ive lived here since the start of all this. Ive only been kidnaped once, beaten by soldiers once, seen or heard of only like 15 bodies dumped within a 2 mile radius of my house. nearly all of my friends have been mugged. I was tortured while kidnaped,electrocuted and beaten,choked and kicked, my friends where raped. and they threatened to behead us with the chainsaw. I was at a house party wrong place right time. even with all that. I love México, and its good people. theres's so may great people that are honest and hardworking. these thugs misrepresent the majority of the peaceful Méxican peoples. just like we know that not all Americans benefit from war mongering. Méxicans know that all Americans are not lazy, Ignorant, and violent. not all americans come to Mexico to drink margaritas(what is this the 80´s) and piss on the streets.in the end I think Méxicans have a better idea of what goes on in the US. than Americans in the US have about what really goes on in México or in the US for that matter.

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  134. @September 27, 2011 5:42 AM

    Sounds like heaven. C'ya!

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  135. I cannot sit still with this video, it has got to be such a shame for the people who are from Mexico to see such a once so very beautiful place pulled down and crumble. While we can sit here and say things like mexico is a joke clearly its not a JOKE. They are using its own people as pawns how is that good to anyone by instilling fear and poverty death and so on. This is such a terrible situation for those who have to endure this day to day in hopes your mother father sister brother isnt killed to hope you can make it to school alive to hope that when you come home your family hasnt fell victim to such violence death, Yes I am glad I live in america but damn to see all of this not just in Mexico , but all over central america? wow.. its has become so unbarable your businesses close down your teachers threatend its like turning the hands back in time to something mid evil, serioulsy! there is no care for human life. its screwed. However one person is right what does it take to end this what can we do for them but watch them kill themselves ?? over shit americans pay top dollar for seriously! so yeah it is terrible awful feeling of no end but there has to be a solution somehow and when it happends its going to be RAW a raw deal for those who get it I know that and asking for forgiveness or a deal forget about it !!!!!!!!!!!

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  136. Couldn't resist. Watched the vid. I think I'm gonna be sick.

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  137. Would the good citizens of Mexico allow/tolerate Predator drones over their country? The drones could eliminate the bosses one at a time.

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  138. Hey John the dumbass above, this is also a United States of American problem and I don't give a rat's ass about what the Mexicans think. There god damn problem is pouring over our borders and will only get worse. Why don't you get your stupid head out your ass or Obama's and actually think a little. Morons like you are a dime a dozen - hell - you probably are one of the dope heads these criminals supply to say such stupid things. Obama ending the war - yeah a hole that is what he did. Last time I checked Gitmo was still open. learn your facts idiot.

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  139. Thank all the idiot Americans for this(those who support the current drug war). This is what prohibition does. Its not saving the kids in Idaho, its beheading poor working class people in Mexico. Soon this will spill over the border.

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  140. I couldn't watch it. I am ok with pictures, but not moving images. I have no judgement on those who did. I was once a war photographer in the Balkans, and I get it. I say it was a job, but hey, so is working in Walmart. I wasn't given the job. I chose it. Curiosity and adrenalin are heady mixture. But I do want to ask some questions about this video. My question is not one of rubber necking curiosity, but one of concern for personal mental health. These are terrible times we are living in. People are not meant to see this. It is totally traumatic. If I had seen that as a young man, I am not too sure I would have coped well with it. I want to know how people have felt after seeing it. I personally have felt such revulsion that is has followed me around these past two days, and I just saw the image. It is not just the total violation of humanity, and the lives of the men in the video, but it is a violation of us, too. We are not supposed to see such images. Our brains never do to well with such images, and our enjoyment of life is diminished as a result. I do expect to get a few macho types, who act as if there are severed heads at all 4 corners of their bed, but to those who are a bit more forthcoming, I would like to know how people feel about seeing this, and to maybe have an article on the issue in general. Richard Ramirez first got exposed to numerous images of ripped up and raped Vietcong women. No, we won't all become serial killers, but hey, it's not a positive experience for the soul, at the very least. It must have an effect on society at large. That, combined with a new age media without regulatory controls.

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  141. @September 27, 2011 10:46 PM

    Oh ok, I forgot intelligent people like you have to insult the person their arguing with when they start losing because their "points" have no actual facts behind them.

    "Their god damn people," shows the type of person you are very clearly. And nice "facts" you have -- The War in Afghanistan IS ending. 32,000 US troops will be withdrawn by the summer of 2012. You don't just end the war and magically have all troops disappear in a day; at least not for what our stated "goals" are for over there, we are supposed to be preparing the Afghans to take control of their own country with much less US oversight.

    What Gitmo has to do with anything? Obama has done far more than Bush did to close Gitmo. It's just not that simple though and after he was further into his presidency I think he realizes this. Where do we put those inmates? Virtually no other country wants to take the majority of them and we can't exactly release them into the USA. I'd like to hear your plan for the closing of Gitmo and distribution of its inmates, some of which are in court proceedings.

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  142. The chainsaw victim got it easy. He was dead in less than 2 seconds. Horrible, but at least some mercy there. The second guy - OMG no words! I cannot believe that the human body can survive consciously for a minute with that kind of thing going on as he seemed to do. I truly feel bad for both of them regardless of their "crimes" against the cartel.

    I also feel bad for the people and country of Mexico. Their leadership is corrupt and ineffective. It's going to take the people to rise up against the cartels and finally say ENOUGH!! To all the people of Mexico, know that the world supports you in your campaign against this terror. And remember that these evildoers will make an accounting for their actions in this life after their time on earth ends.

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  143. I hate when in American movies stupid actors like Seth Rogen smoke weed like it is something cool or funny... Most of the drugs that are consumed in the U.S. come from Mexico, if you want to help STOP BUYING DRUGS

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  144. I watched this on a cell phone and felt like I was going to faint.

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  145. OMG,I didn't want to watch that...now I wish I didn't...how can anyone do such a thing to another human being...disgusting and sad,may the cartel killers rot in hell for what they did.

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  146. @September 29, 2011 1:09 AM

    Good point. I am from California. I smoke weed. I have a prescription, given to me from a doctor. I buy it from a dispensary. I can choose my medicine from hundreds of different types.

    It has worked very well here. Crime has not gone up, and people are not more stoned and high than before. They can just go about their day, doing their jobs, contributing to the economy, looking after their kids, and not being criminalized for getting a little high. They don't get criminalized for getting a little drunk.

    Why the other states don't do it, I don't know. Not only will it cut off a huge demand for Mexican imported marujana, but it will reduce the crime that comes with it. There is huge unemployment. We have amazing weed growing climates in the USA, and we can tax it. Anyone can grow, and there are no real barriers to entry, and so the economic model would not see a monopoly supplier, like there is now. Your local dispensary can sell weed grown in Nevada, Florida, Kansas or even New York. The industries which are viable with the bi-products of hemp is massive.

    Rather than milk this cash cow, we instead choose to pay vast amounts of tax money creating monopolies, gangsters and criminals, when there is no need for any of it.

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  147. This video should be shown on all american tv channels to let everyone here know what is coming there way if we dont do something about this. Maybe it will shock some people enough to start raising hell with our goverments to act. Over the years i have seen alot of horrible things on the internet, played many of violent video games and seen a ton of sick and demented movies. When i first saw this video i was not very shocked. I think being desentized over the years made it more of a curiosity to see a real chainsaw massacre than anything else. But now after sitting here reading all the comments and doing a little more research on whats going on in mexico and maybe " coming to a city near you " i find it very disturbing my first reaction to this , and the reaction of others comments here. This has now made me feel physically sick and has changed the way i feel about this drug war,and humanity.
    The reasons why these killers are doing this does not matter. There not killing for drugs or money or fame, there killing because they like to kill people. Drop those two off in any U.S. city and i bet you will have peoples heads all over the place. There insane, completly evil humans who get off on doing this. And there headed this way.

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  148. Funny how americans are apalled by the so called levels of violence. Yet America has bombed the hell ot of many countries and killed many innocent civilians. Yeah these guys are monsters. And so are your bombs.

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  149. @September 30, 2011 8:23 AM

    Nice perception of history. Sure we have bombed countries, so has EVERY OTHER MILITARIZED COUNTRY ON EARTH. We haven't done the large-scale slaughter other's have though; e.g. Japan against China (specifically Nanking during 1937). You think chainsaw to the head is sick? What about the troops of Japan being told by superiors that all Chinese women are to be gang raped? That all civilians are to be murdered. There are pictures of Japanese soldiers bayoneting a pregnant Chinese woman and pulling the almost full-term baby out of the stomach by the bayonet. They stuck knives and swords into the vagina's of still alive Chinese women. This is just a small amount of the horrors perpetrated by the Japanese onto the Chinese.

    What's more messed up? Think how many people who were involved in this mass murder and rape are still living in Japanese society...how many are in power seats of government. When you think about some of the hardcore, sicko film and literature that comes from Japan, when you think about this prior context it makes sense how they are desensitized to it (look up "Flower of Flesh and Blood").

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  150. Ive just been sick in my mouth

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  151. The guy in the mugshot

    is the guy on the nat/geo channel episode entitled "tiajauna drug lords, arellano-felix organization. He uses the name "Miguel Angel"on the show. See the mole under his left eye in the mugshot? Same guy on the episode. Says he worked for Arellano cartel on the show. Whether he's the guy on the left in the execution video? Don't know. Grainy vid. What's kinda creepy is that I tvod this program listed as a "new" episode ...yet saw this guy here on b.b. 3 days before the show even aired.

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  152. In order to think clearly about the drug war, people need to separate the evils resulting from drug abuse from the evils resulting from this foolish drug war. The drug war itself has given birth to incalculable violence for the past several decades. It seems proponents of the drug war simply ignore the root causes of the violence in question. In a free society, competent adults must be allowed to ingest any substance they choose into their body; even if it is bad for them. Such freedom would undoubtedly result in some people ruining their lives. However, all of the violence associated with the manufacture, transportation, sales and use of drugs would immediately end.

    Isn’t that by itself a sufficient reason to end the drug war; especially given that people who want to use drugs use them despite decades of failed efforts to convince them otherwise? There is no downside to ending the failed war on drugs and almost incalculable upside for everyone except the drug dealers and drug enforcement officers.

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  153. These guys were executed for betraying their cartel. Armies of all countries have been doing this for centuries. I don't see much difference here, of course, it's a perhaps more sadistic way, but esentially is the same...

    Perhaps is better being beheaded than diying slowly having three bullets in your chest...

    Sorry for my English, I'm much better with the chainsaw...

    Love

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  154. You fucking retards saying it was by their own cartel, shut the fuck up already...it wasn't their own cartel. Stop posting, you're a clueless fucking idiot.

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  155. Where else can I see tha video?.....not working here.

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  156. Good riddance.
    You americans have no right to judge. Do you even know what these guys are guilty of? How many of you bothered to do some research? "Poor Narcos"? My ass. You don't get into that line of business without being aware of the possible consequences.

    A lot of people over there are clamoring for legal marijuana. God, is that ever a stupid idea. A well meaning idea, but still stupid. The demand is going to go even higher if it's actually okay to consume, where do you think the supply is going to come from? Mexico, probably. Even more of an excuse for narcos to proliferate.

    Now, some of you have some great ideas. Death Penalty. Bounties. Are they inhumane? Of course they are. But you've got to wonder, just why are we even considering such brutal measures? Drugs have pushed Mexico's, the people's hand, gentlemen.

    So please, people. You guys don't have to worry about corrupt cops. When something bad happens, you just call the police and let them do their work. You don't have to worry about whether or not the cop you just called is on your side. Over here, calling the police may make your day so much worse. Most of you don't have to worry about your daughter, or your girlfriend, or anybody you love being a couple of minutes late.
    And that's fine. You've earned your sense of security. Just don't judge.

    Do not judge what some of us think are good ideas for ridding us of our problem. You cannot understand what it is to live in fear if you don't live in fear.

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  157. YEAH YEAH KEEP BELIEVING ALL THAT HAHA KEEP GOOGLING EVERYTHING GET A LIFE AND SOMETHING TO DO NERDS LOL DID YOU GUYS EVER HAD A LIFE GOSH THEY KNOW HOW TO RUN IT WITHOUT LOCKIN PEOPLE UP LIKE ANIMALS WHEN THE ANIMALS ARE THEMSELFES...
    THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ABOUT TO READ THIS OVER AND OVER AND YOU WILL STILL NOT GET IT AND YOU WILL TRY TO FORGET IT AND IGNORE IT OR TALK CRAP ABOUT IT AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TRUST ME WE DO NOT CARE... I FEEL SORRY FOR SOME ''AMERICANS'' KEEP BELIEVING WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE... PEACE IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT! IS THERE EVER GONNA BE ANY JUST KEEP WAITING BUT DONT MIND SIT DOWN AND KICK BACK ITS GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME BUDDY...

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  158. one more reason to keep shooting there drug smugglers as they cross the us border trust me the the river runs red

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  159. This is a result of our failed policies again. We just fucked up in Iraq and Afghanistan and know we are screwing up in Mexico. We don't even take the fast and furious fiasco as a serious matter. I wonder what we would do if some foreign government were smuggling arms to this country. It's time to analyze our role in this WAR and take action.

    aboyinazfromla

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  160. Next time you smoke a joint or do a line, remember the men responsible for helping bring it to you. The US has a biggest drug use problem in the world and then we want to ridicule the people who SUPPLY OUR NEEDS.

    Makes you wonder who is more screwed up.

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  161. Same story just different country. Our needs screw up another country. Proud to be an American, NOT.

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  162. i was in one of those stupid halloween store yesterday..and they were selling fake body parts and skinned torsos..it made me sick to see it ...

    we as Americans are so insulated from the real gruesome shit that we have to have a fake version...i sometimes wish we had to see the real thing like happens in Mexico, so we would lose the attraction to fake ass halloween bullshit plastic made in china gore

    and this stupid shit is displayed right next to the turkey day and christmas plastic made in china garbage

    if you want to see bloody body parts ..death and violence ..the most gory methods of death...go live in mexico ...don't patronize the plastic bullshit

    we have stupid zombie slasher movies inflicted on us by the controlled hollywood media..most Americans don't have a clue that right across the river there are guys who would cut freddy krugers,jason, micheal meyers..and all those zombies heads off for real..for 500 pesos

    we keep on ignoring what is happening in Mexico...and continue our stupid immigration policys..we are gonna have the real shit , that will make everybody forget all about movise and all that fake shit

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  163. Briiiiiiito...
    last Halloween I was in SoCal and walked out the market and there in the back windshield of a car sat a decapitated head all bloody and ugly, fake of course but when I saw it for a minute my heart stopped and I had to assure myself I was in the states and not in Mx. I took pics of it and sent to my friends in Mexico

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  164. whos the guy who said they could kill 20 Sicarios? Fuck i would like to see you barely entering mexico and get your fucken head shot off. if you think your all badass then go fo it. but fuck i bet if 4 or 5 trucks came loaded with men determined to die then shit the little police station here in the u.s. could be fucken blown up in a minute.

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  165. The brutality witnessed in this video is not secluded to Mexicans. If Mexico weren't south of the U.S., it doesn't matter what poor country or culture would be south of the richest country in the world, the results would be the same and cartels would be fiercely fighting for power.

    I greatly dislike the cartels, but I realize that they are killing each other in the most grotesque ways to try to strike fear in the hearts of enemy cartels. It's all a sad waste of life.

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  166. It's so stupid for people to denigrate the entire country of Mexico and to spew the BS rah-rah type of American patriotism I'm seeing from some of the commenters on this page. WE, as American citizens, are fueling this cartel war because of our insatiable appetite for drugs and our failed domestic drug policies. Mexico's economy is in shambles and people are desperate for work, some even mistakenly turning to the cartels and their false promises.

    If you want to see this drug war end before it substantially spills across our borders and deep into our heartland, legalize drugs and take away the main reason why the cartels are fighting.

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  167. hey B ...yeah..i am really tired of our violent movies and tv shows...the stupid "horror movies..the endless cop shows ..car chases and shootouts...

    we could live in a world without the gratuitous gore...but the hollywood tribe presents it and we consume it

    how would it be for us fortunate Americans if we had to endure what Mexicans endure , just to got to work, or to the store

    i am so mad at American pop/ violent/gang/ poser culture..MTV is a crime against humanity

    how many MTV type tough guys could sit and be beheaded with no pleading...how many could really wield the saw without puking and crying later..

    i am just rambling ..but this is really happening in Mexico while we celebrate fake versions of it here...sickening ..really sickening...and the profit being made from faking it makes it even worse

    i am sure these were bad guys ..but man what a way to go..all for a few pesos...whatever happened to just shooting your enemy..i guess i am old fashioned about murder

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  168. wake up and smell the coffee americans !!! this has to be work from the mexican military goons. Military dont take prisoners 90% of the time and use politics to get away from murders. . The same beheadings is happening everywhere like a freaking Mc Donald's burgers franchise. It all started to happen when the president wanted war for the people in mexico. They use the art of war by doing brutal killings to scare the people from farming drugs. Most violence is done by people thinking they are doing good. Killing is the ultimate sin and should not be allowed. If you kill, you also give the victims family hell on earth. Prison is the only way to keep family from seeing hell. This should not be the mid evil ways.

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  169. I didn't know this was still an ongoing topic. I think people are fascinated with violence.

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  170. i dont want to name names but the head guy for the cartel has the mexican gov under his belt and that includes there army..so who did it?i think there gov did this cuz why would the leader of this cartel vidio tape these guys giving up all the info on who they work for what they do and how much theyv made in the past..thats like him vidio tapeing himself saying i sell and export every kind of drug u want so heres my number..and as it scrolls at the bottom of the screen hes pointing at it with a big grin..iv been thinking about thinking about this shit for a day or so and the only thing i can come up with is..the gov bailed these guys out and took them out there and did this shit to make a point with the rest of the cartel workers saying this will hapn to you if u snitch on r boys....ok enough of my crazy yhoughts...then again crazy thoughts is what makes this world go round

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  171. As an American, I can only feel guilty. We are the characters in this horrible play, whom are responsible. Yet, we act mighty, when we are in fact the illicit problem. I am saddened.

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  172. MY COUNTRY IS A SHIT, AND UNFORTUNATELY WE AMERICAN CITIZENS AS MEXICAN CITIZENS CAN NOT DO NOTHING, NO SALE OF WEAPONS-FREE (which God forbid) AND SOME OF YOU AS A COMPULSIVE CONSUMERS NEED YOUR DRUG prevents this to stop, but THAT IS NOT MADE excuses for your fault, our savage goes up, JUST IN MY STATE WAS ALL "PEACE" (VERACRUZ) OF THE NIGHT TO MORNING In the afternoon, gunmen SOME BOARD OF SHOOTING IN A STREET CAR 35 bodies KNOWN, THE OTHER SHOOTING ANOTHER DAY 15, DAY IN THE FOLLOWING ARE BETWEEN 2 O 3 BODIES AND THE OTHERS ARE NEXT WEEK 36 (NOW BECOME lost count) calculated here that were about over 100 executives IN THE SPACE OF 2 WEEKS AND HAVE BEEN AWARE THAT MY STATE ALONE OR EVEN STOP THE SALE OF WEAPONS OR DRUG SALE, THIS IS NOT GOING TO STOP YOU GOING TO DO THAT DAY OR AT LEAST END THIS WAR DEATHS DECREASE WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE COME NOW DOING THIS KIND of aberrant MASSACRE, THE DAY TOMORROW engaged to kidnapping and Extortion AT YOUR OWN AND DO SOMETHING BUT WITH SOME LIMITS BY THE CARTEL UNFOUNDED, ESPECIALLY THE POSTER of the Zetas, collect fees FLOOR, carry out kidnappings, NO LONGER COMPLIES WITH THE SALE OF DRUGS, NO LOOK TO AMI would fail me to blow his head EGGSTo blow HEAD TO ONE OF THESE PIGS THAT OFTEN BECOME become our neighbors, is something outrageous LIVING WITH THIS KIND OF PEOPLE AND LET THE TRUTH BE HUMAN, CAN NOT CONVATIR AGAINST THEM, THE LOCAL POLICE AND PROTECT THE LOCAL AUTHORITY, JUST ME AND GIVEN THE ARMY ACCOUNT, THIS IS THE ONLY ON OUR SIDE, I HOPE A BETTER TOMORROW, BUT I SEE FAR, THE HEROES OF THE YOUTH OF THIS TYPE ARE NOW ALLOWED IN MEXICO OR WANT TO BE A FOOTBALL PLAYER OR WANT TO BE A GREAT drug lord, you think FUCK THE NEIGHBOR AND NOT HELP, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND HAD GRANCULPA IF NOT YOU ALL IN THIS HAPPENS, worry about having IGNORANT AND MAKE MONEY and sell their IMAGNA stupid and not to instill moral values, but AS I SAY THAT IF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND CRADLE OF LYING wHORE OF NATIONS.

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  173. Holy shit, thats fucked up but ive got a feeling these two guys witnessed this type of shit before, but to some other poor fucker.

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  174. CUANDO VUELVAS A FUMAR MOTA Y HACER LINEAS ACUERDATE DE ESTE VIDEO LA CONSUMCION ES PARTICIPACION. QUE SE PUDRAN EN EL INFIERNO ESE PAR DE COBARDES.

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  175. Esto le pasar a todos los que estan con El Chapo,pobres halucinados no pueden ni an podido con los Beltra.Y aki esta la prueba.

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  176. everything goes hand in hand in this world. its all connected in some way or another. i think whats going on is we've all lost GUIDANCE, from GOD up in Heaven. the US government fucks with the youths for "LOOKING" gang related. we get harrased n arrested for petty shit. then they give us "criminal records" which makes it DAM NEAR IMPOSSIBLE to get a job. so alot of american citizens and non-citizens with this problem, and who also face worse problems created by the U.S. government and those politicans in power, have very little options or coping mechanizisms and in turn, we/they, turn to drugs. Life is not life if its just existence living in poverty, with no income or assistance, just persecution and prosecution, probation violations for "drinking" when u have "alcohol terms" HELLO PEOPLE DIDNT WE ALREADY GO THROUGH PROHIBITION IN THIS COUNTRY? REMEMBER CHICAGO AND AL CAPONE? how could i get locked iup for drinking in the land of the free? just because of DUIs. why do you think so much people end up turning to crime? WHEN BAD THINGS HAPPEN, IT ALL COMES BACK. the united states of america will pay for all the wrong its done and is STILL DOING, and MAYBE WORST OF ALL, FOR REJECTING GOD! think about it. what goes around comes around. if u do things kindly , fairly, and justly, the way God would guide you, things would go much more smoothly. think about it people.

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  177. there has to be some code of honor in doing these things. do what is just and necessary but not what exceeds it!. dont overstep that boundary. cuz in the end u will lose more then you gain.

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  178. "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword"

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  179. You guys just don't understand. The whole reason these two organizations are at war is because they are fighting to get their drugs into the United States. If our country can find a man hiding in Caves and shit, Don't you think they can stop men from entering into America with 100's of kilos of Cocaine???? It's the United States Government that is supporting the Cartels. And to those who commented saying, "How could these men do this?" or "Then jesus said unto him... blah blah blah." Save it, these guys don't care at all. My brother lives in Tucson Arizona and he witnessed Cartel members being arrested outside of a mall, and he told me when the police arrested them he heard one just laugh really loud and say, "Sorryanotta!" Then as he was driving he was going down the road and seen at lease 8 cop cars, 3 ambulance, and a helicopter in the sky looking for people. On the news later that night he said it said "Local Cartel member of Sinala have escaped police custody killing 3 police officers. These men are Special Forces. Los Zetas to be exact. They are not the ones to be messed with. They have no heart, no passion, no consciuos, no 2nd thoughts about cutting your head off and handing it to your son/daughter. My advise. If you come anywhere near members of a Cartel, just WALK AWAY! Look at them wrong and they will kill you.

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  180. Okay.. this video was POWERFUL.. what i'm wondering is did this video on such a popular website like BDN ultimately lead to BDN's demise? it has been reduced to being a tab on another website... i think there must've been an enormous amount of pressure coming from high up to get that site down.. as a result of this video.. because i'm trying to find an answer as to how quickly this site had disappeared

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  181. legalizing drugs is the worst thing to do first we legalize marijuana then pretty soon druggies want crack legalized then pretty soon heroin then pretty soon meth its a viscious cycle and for all of you out there who are going to come at me with the alcohol kills more people than weed you need to stop being stupid. if its illegal its illegal figure out something else to destroy your body with which is legal. why are you going to try to push the envelope?

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  182. I have lost my faith in humanity.If I ever have a chance of putting an end to it, I will take it.

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  183. I think the poor guy on the left said " no mas " well into 20 seconds of the guy going crazy on his throat with that hunting knife.

    Can u imagine having someones boot pressing on ur heads temple not being able to do nothing but hear ur own flesh being ripped apart by a knife. That guy felt everything and he finally died when the guy snapped his neck with the knife. That's when u trully see his body go completely lifeless.

    Those guys who made this video will one day be bound and gagged too.

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  184. well,

    that was interesting, nice to have morning coffee to.

    And 90% of you seem so shocked, with IMHO ignorant comments like "this is un human" .
    We've all forgotten what a violent species we are . Violence and brutality are part of the human psyche ,in modern times though we choose not to embrace it ..The Romans did ( Hail Cesar) though and turned it into a fine art

    These two human pieces of trash lived in a world that for 24 dollars you could lose your head(no pun intended) , (keeping in mind that they are both high on something )and have probably been on the other end of the chainsaw at one time in their pathetic lives..

    The weak have to die ,ask Mother Nature and Charles Darwin

    If they didnt want to one day die a really crappy death like they did, they would have chose a different profession .

    If you live by it ,you almost certainlywill die by it .

    Ive read some interesting comments and the Best of the bunch was the "Letter of Mark"-give the poster a nice cigar!

    Look pieces of crap like this have to be dealt with in a more "Roman" or "Privateer" like fashion .Its gonna happen any way ,We might as well accept it like the times of old and let it help out economy ,or the economy of the countries that choose to participate.

    Many of you would say that you wouldn't watch a video like that ,of modern privateering or the State Sanctioned Hunting of this filth ,you fellow human are liars then.But when you look in the mirror alone you want to see those brutal images ,youre only lying to yourself .Ive figured out that ,
    "Life is a war against the malice of men"
    -B.Gracian


    ( I wont call them animals because animals don't behave like this ,only us-the human race),and we could .A.
    Lower Crime
    B.
    Help the Economy

    Those first 2 shots in the dark ,would make me sign any kind of legislature that Sanctioned modern Privateering .

    Look the human species is a cauldron of hate ,boiling over at the seams .Recognize it is for what it is and you wont be so shocked.

    Last Rant , the Brave Men and Women of the Military see things like this and far worse every day .So before you blast off at the mouth to my comments ,remember that they also have dealt with this issue you will not.Are they like me...hmmmm or am I like them ..?

    up,my toast is ready !
    Cheers-Lex Talionis

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  185. Snitches Get Stitches, Or In This Case Decapation:)

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  186. Hola, Rudolfo aqui.
    Hello.

    I grew up with the Sinaloa bunch, Los Mochis to be exact.
    Things have changed since I was involved in several very important points.
    First off, drug shipments are far more massive now.
    Second, and the reason for the first, is that the drug cartels now own the merchandise, no more scrounging up a few hundred $ to buy it.
    But, there is the root of it, you are not losing your shipment, you are losing cartel property.
    I did my one year in the Mexican army, who were "educated" by returning Vietnam vets who also set up distribution channels in the USA.
    I know, the old man was one of them.
    Philip True, a reporter for a local newspaper was killed when he refused to listen to the police.
    Yes, the cops are very much in on this.

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  187. Ok people its obvious it was not the sinaloa cartel...what cartel would let their preys talk bad about their organization before killing them????? Im pretty sure it was chapito isidro y sus mazatlecos.....but the truth we might never know...by the way its very common when you illegal in this country to give a phony name, thats why arizona had a diffetent match, at least both last names were the same

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  188. people of new world order and power $$$$$$ its time you step up and terminate cartels now not tomarow do good for humanity usa i wish you act help your neightbors if not your next generacion neighbors will be all psycos terrorist then it will be to late replace mexican goberment there all corrupt their working with cartels.

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  189. cartels wanted dead exterminaded.

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  190. where can i sign up for a guerrilla to fight cartels people wake up dont die on your knies step up die with honor and dignity love your country sociaty its time to act now.

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  191. Those of you who think that decriminalization of cannabis (nobody in their right mind wants "legalization" but you have to understand the difference between the two to understand why) would lead to more of this shit really need to stop pulling "facts" (anti-drugs propaganda) out of your ass. In the states where we have medical use laws (and I live in one and have a card) people grow their own (or buy from growers or dispensaries). I haven't seen Mexican cannabis here since the '90s (and even back then it was the worst I ever smoked).

    You "drug are bad" drones make me sad. It's obvious that you don't know the first thing about pharmacology/biology/science if you think that cannabis "destroys your body". CANNABIS CURES CANCER (and there are studies which prove this). It is also beneficial to many other diseases/disorders. Eating cannabis/hashish is less harmful to the body than taking an aspirin (there was a study for this, too). Smoking cannabis is less harmful than tobacco (and a study for this). People who have a legitimate medical need (and there are more of us than you'd expect) don't use cannabis to "get high". That's just more propaganda from corrupt/ignorant politicians. If you take a close look at the politicians who are most vocal against medical use and decriminalization, you'll find that they have a personal interest in keeping things just the way they are (connection to drug lords, stock in corporations that operate privatized prisons, etc.). A lot of those guys are just confused.

    They believe that "smaller government" means "less regulation" (no environmental or worker/consumer protections - say "welcome back" to the 80-hour week and toxic sludge where our lakes and rivers used to be) and "lower taxes" (and "bailouts" for the wealthy and corporations - but if you can't find a job, you can just starve in the street). But if two people of the same sex want to get married, or I want to smoke a joint, the government has to step in and "save" me from myself. What a bunch of moronic assclowns...

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  192. freeedommmm for people in mexico from the goberment and cartels .

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  193. mexicans must exept help from united nacions or other countrys to end killings.

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  194. its not even about drugs any more its about cartels terrorist group kidnaping,killing, rape extorcions to companys for proteccion all woman or teens cant go out any more because their afraid to be picked up rapedkilled by cartels men no one calls the police or state police federal because their afraid 2 reporters are told what they can report on news by cartels

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  195. politicians,president,secretery nacional defence in mexico are afraid of cartels 2 they only stay where its safe for them they have gated private streets where they live with lots of security guards the federales dont go out because their afraid to get picked up they will all stay in private street where they eat,cut their hair,shop,order everithing they need the security guards there are 24-7 if federales are afraid just imagine think about the normal people when they have to go to schools, work, stores, gas its tragic and i feel bad for them im so lucky to be an american and i love america.

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  196. Yeah they really wouldnt do crazy shit like that here in the heart of america even in the mountains this is where they make there money we are the money walking breathing money! these victim guy's are the low of the low in the drug enterprise... easy easy people to catch!! Rest in peaces.... and all to teens think this shit is cool the drug enterprise listen and read what the uncle said they dont fuck around! and they dont. believe me.

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  197. father forgive them for they know not what they do (?) LOL.

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