Friday, April 24, 2020

La Familia Michoacana debates journalist - "We should be applauded" for Covid19 help "Ungrateful ones, will be killed"

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat
The narco set up a temporary twitter account to communicate with the journalist;   he wanted to "explain" .  Asked what happens if people denounce them?  "Then we will kill them for being ungrateful".

MVS Journalist Oscar Balderas spoke about the conversation he had with delivery of pantries (food boxes) of "La Familia Michoacana".

“A direct message came to my Twitter account last Saturday. It seemed to come from a false account: Because the profile was a jumble of letters and numbers with the image of a weapon. Many times they are bots that send false death threats. But this one… it seemed different”, he related.

"He spoke to me about himself and sent me the link to the Criminal Nation that three days before he had shared with listeners: the history of the world, and in Mexico, of the false aid of organized crime to the victims of the Covid-19, from loans to drug dealers. Then he presented himself as a dispenser of pantries for La Familia Michoacana and said he wanted to explain himself: he did not understand why people criticized him instead of applauding him, "he said.


What led up to this conversation (Reforma Portada):
Members of the Familia Michoacana (FM) - led by Jhonny Hurtado Olascoaga, el "Pez" and José Hurtado Olascoaga, "La Fresa" - distributed “pantries” to residents of communities in Tierra Caliente, Michoacán , which are located near Guerrero. 
In photos that were broadcast on social networks in the Tierra Caliente Region of  Guerrero, "Apoyo de la Familia Michoacana", "El Comando de la M", read in a message attached to the bag that contains various groceries such as oil, toilet paper, a box of cereal, bottled water, and soap.
The members of this organized crime organization that operates in municipalities of Tierra Caliente de Guerrero, Michoacán and the State of Mexico gave this help to the people from "El Pez" and "Fresa". 
This in the midst of the crisis they are experiencing due to Covid-19. 
The pantries were delivered to the inhabitants of San Lucas, Michoacán, and Villa de Guerrero in the State of Mexico. 
For almost a decade, this organization has maintained terror in municipalities of Tierra Caliente de Guerrero and neighboring communities in Michoacán and the State of Mexico.
 Pantry Boss "Daniel"

Then he introduced himself as a “pantry” boss for La Familia Michoacana and said he wanted to explain himself: he did not understand why people criticized him instead of applauding him.

I replied that I wanted to speak to him, but that I would need proof of his statements. Something to indicate that he belonged to a criminal group.

He promised that the evidence would come to me.

The evidence, “If you want more proof I will send a head”

The next day Sunday, another message arrived from that new account of just 22 tweets.

"What day of the month is today?" He asked. He immediately sent three images in which you can see a transparent plastic bag with cheap groceries and a flyer with the same type of narco-pantries that La Familia Michoacana had distributed last week in Edomex.

Another bag with oil, bleach, soap, and more was surrounded by vacuum-sealed marijuana packages, as packaged by drug traffickers who want to trick anti-drug dogs.

And everything had  a notebook sheet with the date of the day: April 19, 2020.

“I just took those photos, a  speck of what  I am going to move. And in my truck I bring 5 kilos more.

But if you want more proof, tomorrow I will send you a photo of a head”, he wrote me.

I felt a wrenching cramp in my gut, but agreed to speak to him.

He asked me to call him Daniel, like the prophet. He said he was 22 years old and his occupation is a thug in Tierra Caliente on the border of the State of Mexico and Michoacán.

According to him, the cartel is doing street work that the authorities do not do, that is, catch thieves and rapists and make sure people are fed.

In exchange, the FM charges a fee to patrol and monitor that "othro malos" (other bad guys) so they do not reach the town, like CJNG.

"We take care of people. Look at the pantries”, he writes to me.

"How much does each cost?" I ask him.

Daniel calculates the cost to be about 150 pesos. (apx 6 USD)

Last week, his group in the service of a capo nicknamed "El Pez" delivered 100 in one night, that is, they spent about 15 thousand pesos. (Apx 600USD)

I reply that the pantry is not a gift, but a very small return of everything they have collected, maliciously with extortion and kidnapping.

"Those people now owe their lives because of those groceries",  I insist.


Daniel fights back and clings to the fact that people love them, that he fills them with blessings and that they have already received invitations to go to Tecámac.

I reply that they do not want them: they fear them

"What if one of those who received the pantry, one day denounces them?" I insist.
After 10 minutes of inactivity, a cold message arrives:

"We kill them for being ungrateful." 

Daniel continues like this for 20 minutes: he vows that La Familia Michoacana does well, that they pay for school uniforms, paints churches and puts people into their homes to prevent the spread of COVID19.

"And what do they give you in exchange for so much loyalty? How much are you paid to deliver pantries? ”I ask.

Daniel says that they give him 200 pesos a night (8USD) and all the marijuana he can smoke; He does it not for money, but for "helping others".

"And could the people be helped without killing and without extortion?" I question him.

"No, because then where does the money come from to help?"

Yet, Daniel is convinced that the people to whom he gave cheap cookies that night went to bed grateful.


"A necessary evil?" I ask.


“If you want to see it that way, that's fine. I tell you that if the people are made to choose between the politicians and us ... the people go with us. "



50 comments:

  1. These narcos dont help the poor from the Heart. They want good reputation from the pueblo so they won't be viewed as bad guys. The same for Sinaloa Cartel atleast in other states. Lfm are bunch of low lives that are destined to be slaughter by cjng and vice versa

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    1. LFM minds thier own business where they are at. While Menchos CJNG is creating mayhem and trying to take over many states.cjng should be killed on the spot.

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    2. Don't call them Narco's, Michoacanos hardly traffic drugs, including Mencho's he's from Michoacan, all they do is rely on extortion.

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    3. 10:13 get ready to get slaughtered for ur comment by offended mencho lovers michoacanos....😂😂😂

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    4. @10:14 Mencho probably moving more work than any one else right now including mayo and los chapitos

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    5. 10:13 here in California most of the traffickers are from Cjng

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    6. That’s true they don’t really traffic drugs they don’t need to because Michoacanos call the shots they always did since ancient times. Traffickers are mostly from sinaloa Juarez and other border states that’s all them lames are known for “drugs” nothing more!

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    7. 11:58 u so wrong that it makes me think ur a nutthugger 😂...in so Cal most of the dope is being pushed by other cartels specially cds n lfm,cjng does move some weight but not like u dreaming...

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    8. Michoacanos are meth dealers and smokers have been for 15+ years even michoacanos know their reputation is they are tweakers Sinaloa has reputation for drugs michoacanos only got meth extortion and kidnapping

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    9. 12:06 yeah they call The shot thats why most of them are in The USA working in fields cleaning houses construcción You guys are at The Botton My dude You don't even call The shots at You Home buddy

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    10. Heres the regional hysteria coming out again?
      The regional arguing about bollocks

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    11. 12:06 sounds like a real cheerleader, dude selling drugs to willing participants is one thing but extortion is another. If u think only selling drugs is lame and are cool with the other forms of illegal money that’s common down there than it just an animal and I should be put down ol yeller style

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    12. These guys are mad that Michoacanos run the show whether they believe it or not!

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    13. 8:24 the CT stole the cake, extorting one tortilla per kilo de tortillas and pumpkin seed vendors was the pits, but trying to extort el Migueladas was their suicide, el kike plancarte solis got his ass pumped away from home, and his uncle el viejillo pedorro still is in prison, the new boys can't find the ollas del Chayo pa hacer el meth, el profe La Puta Tuta did not teach anybody anything, los Miagras can't get it up...
      orale a la verga güey...

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    14. Modesto is full of michoacanos wit the cjng flag lotta fish in dat grimy ass city

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  2. The devil isn't afraid of revealing oneself. The "Be grateful attitude" that your living is noted.
    Incredible story & ballsy.

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  3. These are terrorist orginizations... plain and simple. And they run free in Mexico!!! They are celebrated!!! Thats so twisted its scary. Mexico has lost its soul. Should be ashamed of what they've become.

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      They are celebrated and something to aspire to,to be a sicario is somehow glamorous.It should be shunned and condemned.The society is becoming more and more warped in the subject it is projecting,more normal for a young guy to become seriously criminal,there should be a concerted effort to arrest and somehow redirect young people away from this thought and lifestyle

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    2. 10:24 I doubt because some poor broke ass guys and old men and women accept one bag of many worth about 150 Peisos with beans and sugar or rice with soap, that makes every Mexican a terrorist...
      You want prolly they be given real russian caviar and bear and sturgeon and a few billions of dollars in loans and Kompromat, that would make them "not guilty".
      --You know what, you could stick your terrorist claims up the ass and torch 'em up with a few matches, nobody would miss your pinche jundillo.

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    3. 10:24 ay no mames mami, se te van a mojar las pantis.
      Mejor comete los frijolitos y no estes chingando...
      Public relations like these are also practiced by the high and the mighty and the powerful, there are a lot of pantries giving free food stuffs to the poor on the US, and on conquered countries and on targetted ones, later they pay with beating on the bare feet of the natives that refuse to dig for diamonds, and shit like in Africa, or get forced to accept chinese colonization, like in Africa. Or get forced to accept presidents indebted by the dozens of millions of dollars in loans from the chinese or billions of dollars to the russians...like the americans...
      --Let's stop getting frightened by a few bags of beans with bugs.

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    4. 6:57 you prolly right. Jajaja

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    5. 2:16 science proves right,
      Therefore: leave the motherfackers no room to roam

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  4. Whats his twitter accout I want to call him retarded personally.

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  5. “Daniel says that they give him 200 pesos a night (8USD) and all the marijuana he can smoke” that’s all the recruiting needed for many poor young people in Tierra Caliente—or much of the world for that matter.

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    1. I believe it’s come to the point where not even jobs will help the situation. Even if the gangs (hardly cartels anymore) were to pay less, kids like Daniel would STILL join them for “prestige” and a sense of identity.

      The whole situation is FUBAR and needs a complete reset.

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    2. 12:40 it is a lie, specially after getting recruited.
      By night 2 they only get grifa or meth or both to eat or to sell.
      Nobody is going to support lazy motherfackers, aaye?

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  6. No cartel does any of this because they are genuinely concerned about the well being of other people. It's all propaganda, everyone knows that. But at the end of the day beggars can't be choosers.

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    1. When you arrive in prison and you accept that little piece of candy or bread, or spare change or a cigarette, you have accepted a husband...
      Same thing with these offerings...
      --that is why the FBI tells political candidates for office to report it to them if anybody offers them money or gifts or promises or emoluments including "loans" worth billions and billions of dollars you don't have to pay back...ever...

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  7. Vacuum sealed packs damn shoot one of those over here

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  8. And they wonder why every state in mexico sees snitchoacanos like cowards because of things like these

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    1. This is LFM de Guerrero led by el "Pez" y "Fresa". They put out that video bludgeoning to death some men en el monte for whatever reason. They're allies of LNFM/Viagras and the SNITCHALOAS.

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    2. I am from CDMX and I respect Michoacán much more than Sinaloa. Sinaloas flaunt & envy too much. Just my 2 cents.

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    3. Your wrong snitchola is en costa grande they running like bitches sangre nueva got them running this ain’t sinaloa this is guerrilleros territory

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  9. They extort everyone in teloloapan and the surrounding ranchos, they rape and kill innocents and as for the free weed part it’s true, the guys over there brag about getting free drugs but no money whenever I run into one over there

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  10. He says they have to kill and extort so they can help the people they are killing and extorting ?

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    1. Yes that's exactly what he said

      If you check for 'idiot' in an encyclopedia you will find his picture printed next to

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  11. That daniel sounds petty i havent heard of a sicario who makrs more than 3 mil pesos a week to me they just lazy f%$^

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  12. That pretty much sums it up in one sentence.

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  13. To take the pantry bag shows a desperation that is endemic and widespread amongst the lower socio-economic class, of which a majority of population belongs to. Those who don't need the help are those being extorted by the cartels to run their businesses and keep some of their wealth from those who want something for nothing and off the industry and backs of others.

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  14. What does the coloring on the map mean?

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  15. We should be commending them! Even though they are barbarians they're doing more for their communities than AMLO the idiot! _______.(insert sarcasm here)🙄🤦🏽‍♂️😂😂😂

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  16. Be happy or Die!

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    1. The beatings will continue until morale improves ?

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  17. but some of these people didnt beg for it It was handed to them I kinda beleive they have no recourse refuse,,off goes their head . Hardly begging.

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  18. Is Nueva F. M. same thing as F.M.? Or are they in war?

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  19. If they were not extorting, robbing, raping and killing these poor people. Maybe they could become more successful, even if a little bit so they would not need that pity bag. I was talking to a person the other day and he said it is good that he is poor. He said no one will kill him for his money he does not have. He said he had a friend that had money, and he was extorted and when he did not pay. He was killed when he told them no. I knew the man that got killed, that he was talking about. He sold some property that he had just inherited, and they wanted the proceeds. They took everything they could after killing him. These thugs, gangs or should I just say leaches on society are what is holding people back. If people succeed in anything it can lead to extortion and maybe even death. I know of many instances that people are killed for almost nothing and they were not rich business owners, but they did not need a $7 bag to get by. One young man I knew of had a small shop and he was able to take care of his pregnant wife, and two children modestly. He did not make enough sales one week to pay the gangs the extortion. He said he would pay the 200 pesos he owed them the next week. Later that night they shot him in the head as he was bent over putting the lock on his cortina ay his businees. I guess he should have not tried to get ahead, and just accept a $7 bag. No one is immune from these thugs here in Mexico.

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    1. Damn. These POS that rob, extort, kidnap etcetera need to be killed. It's the only way I can think of until a better alternative is available to these and other individuals may need to work. Good thing I'm not the presidente, general, gobernador, fuerzas especiales...

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    2. See what happens when your late on paying the extortion bill.

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    3. 12:26 you'd be dead in a minute,
      those SOBS would not give you an even break.
      Worse, their bosses would not want you around threatening their people.

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  20. This is so sad, but I'm laughing at the "cheap cookies" dig.

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