Wednesday, November 6, 2019

Video: Ministry of Defense reports La Linea are responsible of LeBarón massacre

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat TY Gus from Reforma

LeBarón massacre of 9 dual citizenship children and women

Those of us who religiously follow the Mexican narco war, had a question  after hearing about the LeBarón family massacre.  How or does the event link with the fierce confrontation in nearby Agua Prieta in the early hours of Monday?

In those initial hours of Monday, there were fierce clashes between La Línea and Los Salazars  in different parts of Agua Prieta. We now are told that La Línea [Chihuahua] did in fact enter Sonora subsequent to learning Los Salazar [Sonora] we planning to enter Chihuahua. 

The LeBarón family may have been at the wrong place with horrible timing.  Refer to my maps below. 


A suspect has been arrested, who when arrested had two hostages bound and gagged in his vehicle.
  


Reforma:

General Homero Mendoza, chief of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense, attributed to the criminal organization of La Línea, which operates in Chihuahua, as perpetrators of  the massacre of nine members of the LeBarón family .

The military command indicated that members of La Línea were deployed before the threat that the rival group of Los Salazar, which operates in Sonora, would try to enter Chihuahua.

"The criminal organization of La Línea, faced with this threat of the intention of the Salazars to enter Chihuahua decide send a cell between Janos and Bavispe to limit.

"As a result of that confrontation or that confrontation that is taking place within the limits of both states, they decide to send a cell and it is assumed that this cell they send to stop the incursion or penetration of some criminal cell of Los Salazars as they advanced towards Chihuahua.  It  is assumed it is the materialization of aggression that is  being attributed to the LeBarón family massacre, "said General Mendoza.

He indicated that previously there was a confrontation between members of La Línea and Los Salazar in Agua Prieta, Sonora, and derived from that was that the cell of the first organization was sent.

where La Linea sent gunmen

When presenting a timeline, Mendoza said that the three vehicles attacked left the ranch La Mora but at different times, so the attacks were separate.

The first aggression occurred at 9:40 am at a point near La Mora. The first vehicle attacked was a Tahoe truck that caught fire from the shots it received. There died a woman and four children.

The second vehicle attacked was a Suburban van in which a woman and 6 children were traveling. In this fact two children died and the woman he was driving. Four minors managed to escape.

The third fact was the attack on another Suburban in which a woman, who died, and four minors were traveling. It is presumed, the command said, that the criminals let the children go after the attack.



108 comments:

  1. La línea fucked up big time

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  2. Still could've been either group

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    1. Now US citizens have been killed, more specifically children. Whichever sorry ass un professional unit which did this who failed to positively ID their targets are going to face the raft of the US government. Someone will be made an example because of this.

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    2. You keep thinking that but soon no one will care.

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  3. AMLO had some coffee with chapos mom and decided to help her grandchildren chapito AGAIN... I wonder how much the Guzman paid THIS TIME?

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    1. AMLO is special!! chapos and zambadas payed 1billion dollars to have his ass in the pocket.

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  4. This is the government trying to cover it up as a mistaken identity thing. Doesn't want to accept its incompetence to protect its citizens or any others.

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    1. Wierd. Thing is how can they establish talks with the criminals that fast,? Now what, will that cartel b rounded up, or let go free to kill more, homicides occurred, they. Need to be held

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    2. I think its something we ha ve to except for 5 more years. Amlo sees the$$$$$$$

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  5. El tintin is part of los Salazar? I thought he was with los jaguares

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    1. El tin tin es El que se quedo a cargo de Los pistoleros en agua prieta o sea El r5. Los Salazar no tienen nada que ver en agua prieta El que Manda toda esa zona es una familia que ya tiene años en El negocio y estan bien pesados lo que Paso en galeana Los lineas quisierion entrar a agua prieta a pelear a gn y Los tin tin Saco a Los linieros corriendo Les mato Gente Los linieros pensaron que El convoy de Los innocentes Eran GN y poes Paso lo que Paso Des afortunademente

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    2. Los Salazares were going to send heavy reinforcements and equipment to the remains of Jaguares and Tigres. Maybe it’s Los Salazar that’s been personally aiding them for a while. And with Jaguar dead, naturally his associates in Sonora would take charge of his left over group and contacts. Salazares have been spending a lot of money for war and pushing up on new territory lately.

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  6. When Amlo pulled security from the Mormon enclaves it sent a signal they were open game. Little question in my mind the hardened Latin socialist resents the polygamists, their clean and well presented towns and the fact they are primarily gringos.
    Net result -- Mormons leave, Mexicans take back sovereign land situated in very nice irrigated river valleys.
    Warring cartels do his bidding without even having to be asked.

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    1. Thank you, Sol and Chivas for all you do to let know what is going on...
      Yes...the Mexican government is known for genocide in order to take the land from the owners. I am not a Mormon, but these people have been there since 1885 and have been working their farmlands for over 130 years... This is also happening in Southern Mexico, in Chiapas, except the native Mexican citizens there are poor. And when the 'paramilitary' forces (cartels in uniforms?) come in to shoot up their town they are forced out with the clothes on their backs. So, they become displaced - HOMELESS!! This genocide process by the Mexican government has been going on since the 1990's or before.I live in America and teach English as a Second Language to many Mexican immigrants. My heart is broken for them, because they would stay in Mexico if the Mexican govt. would just let them build their businesses without being taxed, run off their land (and murdered) by the cartels. I also believe that if the Mexican government would JUST LET MEXICANS BUILD THEIR BUSINESSES that Mexico would become one of the strongest economies in the world...

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    2. do you have sources or more information about AMLO pulling security from the mormons? What type of security was removed exactly and all the details

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    3. Why does BB even let these lying ass comments get by?
      Slandering AMLO only.



      AMLO removed security from mormon enclaves?
      They did not get attacked in their compound you do realize that right? @936

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    4. Normally i would scoff at something like this but the scenario does work out.

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    5. 10:10 what slander, the truth is being said about your president.

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    6. Hey at 10 00... you got it right. Problem is you keep voting for socialist minded government. Time to change that.

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  7. reader who did not like my title... [oh boy] it is reformas title

    Atribuyen a La Línea masacre a LeBarón

    i just added who this claim came from

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    1. Hey chivis it's all good pretty girl we all know it was not sinaloa but you bb followers who most of them support another narco can't stand that sinaloa ain't like them LMAO so of course they blood sugar levels go up everytime the truth comes out

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    2. I'm telling you! Cool avatar

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    3. he/she didn't like 2 titles

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    4. @9:51 we all know it was sonora that killed them. Los matorrales, gatunos, and arbustos were present... perhaps a coyote passed by and witnes the brutality

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    5. It looks like somebody in the higher ranks, like el pri or el pan are trying to make amlo look bad first the ovidio fiasco now this. Believe me this ain't stopping.

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  8. Cartel de juarez has a feud with lebronr family they have kidnapped and kill members befores sinaloa cartel doesn't bother them those Sinaloense have codes and respect

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    1. LeBaron family didn't want to pay piso to the______ they move work too

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    2. 9:46 those Sinaloas don't even respect their mom lol but keep lying to yourselves

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  9. Michoacanos se an de estar tragando toda la mxerda que tiraron jajaja Let the excuses drop cowards

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  10. CDS made that payment 💲💲💲💲 quick!!!!

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    1. Quicker then me paying the rent every 1st of the month

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  11. Tal vez pudo ser La Línea y se confundieron o tal vez los Jaguares pero también hay historia donde la gente nueva le echa la culpa ala linea por ejemplo, en urique el Chueco mató al turista gringo y quiso echarle el dedo ala linea igual con la periodista miroslava. La Línea y La Gente Nueva tienen códigos en sus terrenos de no meterse con gente inocentes pero en cualquier guerra gente inocentes siempre pierden vida

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  12. The Mexican police can get anyone to admit to something they know nothing about.. water boarding and group beatings really brings out the i just want to live another day mind state ..

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  13. Make up your mind yesterday it was Los jaguars.

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    1. I know.
      Makes one wonder how much of anything we read is actually True.
      It all begins with a whisper to run its course.

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    2. 1009 yep let's see which cartel they say it was today. Just get to the root of the problem, clean out the cartel hoodlums that have presence in that area finito. ALMO does not realize that every hour goes by after a cri
      me, it becomes harder to catch.El Perrin de Tamp.

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  14. Does the murder of el fox months ago have anything to do with the violence in agua prieta right now?

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  15. AMLO taking the heat off of CDS.

    good for them! must be cool having a president as your BFF!

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  16. La Linea thought they got a big target by looking at those cars. This had nothing to do with CDS, do the math. CDS have been there for years and never troubled anyone and as soon as the amateurs arrive, look what happens. The US needs to stay out of the mess that ‘they’ created in Mexico, “the war on drugs”.... what a waste of money and Mexican lives. Suddenly 9 US lives are lost now the world is supposed to care? What kind of BS is that. Why didn’t America stop with the BS when the war on drugs didn’t go according to their plans? prayers to the family and also all the people killed because of the US in Mexico. Final note, everyone knows that part of Mexico is a war zone. When entering a war zone you got to be hyper vigilant.

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    1. Nobody believes it was really La Linea behind this attack.
      If even sicario 006 is silent here he must wither know the truth that it was Sinaloans that killed this family or is scared shitless that La Linea is perhaps kicking Sinaloa ass in Sonora?

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    2. If no one is applying some kind of enforcement upon Mexico. Who will?
      These cartels butcher regardless. Along with embedding themselves into the corrupt practices of their environment (government).
      A point is evident here with the massacre of this US family. Given the hundreds of thousands killed in Mexico with no effort of assistance. Apparently certain lives's are worth noticing.

      Such a shame.

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  17. AMLO SHOULD LET THE U.S. COME IN THERE AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS. KILL EVERY FUCKING SCUMBAG

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  18. It wasn’t making sense as to why they would shoot up a vehicle filled with children. But if they were really waiting on another group to enter, maybe those big suburbans played a role in what happened. Especially if they weren’t far from each other. Esther way, México has turned in to a war zone. Very sad to see.

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  19. Not buying it. CDS terrorists/snitches were behind this

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    1. Fake news right. No matter what the outcome and if they find out who did it you will say it had to be cds no matter what right. These people amaze me they hate cartels and drug dealers killers but only if they are cds the other cartels are good people.

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  20. It’s been looking like a ‘mistake’ from the very beginning. Killing a bunch of US citizen Mormons, mostly kids, does not sound in any way shape or form like something a Cártel would want to get that sort of attention from the US Government.

    And after hearing this happened at night, and the families were traveling along a pretty much ‘abandoned’ road through the Sierra in a convoy of 3 recent model Chevrolet Suburbans....it makes total sense that they in-fact got mistaken as a rival cartel trying to enter another’s territory. Sad, but that pretty much seems like what happened.

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    1. This theory I can agree with.
      Definitely could have been mistaken for a DTO'S caravan in rival territory.

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  21. 2 Suburbans and a Tahoe, exactly what a cartel would be convoying in. Whatever the case, the adults of this group should have known better. Hate seeing kids get taken into these dumb A scenarios by ignorant adults. Wake up, and stop traveling through these areas!

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    1. what you expect them to be in? a vw bettle

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    2. Parents who drive around rural MX with children are either horribly ignorant of reality or religious fanatics - which is pretty much the same thing.

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    3. No maybe like a normal person in a mini van or van.

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    4. Read the two idiotic comments from the morons above. Let that sink in. There are people that dumb out there. Very scary. If this doesn’t spell it out >> #MexicoIsAFailedState

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  22. En este momento La pregunta de los familiares es si la CONFUSION fue del grupo Paredes o del grupo La Linea. El gobierno MEX ya sabe quien fue pero esta armando su estrategia (mas despues sobre esto). Pienso que los familiares apuntan a La Linea ya que todos los carros de La Mora (La Morita como todos le llaman) los tienen ubicados los diferentes puntos que tienen desde Agua Prieta a Huachineras y son considerados como civiles amistosos. Estos puntos son controlados por el grupo Paredes que sigue controlando toda esa region por medio de sus lugar tenientes y del apoyo de otros grupos que tambien estan dentro de la jerarquia del grupo Sinaloa. La balacera de ese mismo dia en Agua Prieta indirectament causo la confusion de Bavispe por este motivo. En junio de este año despues del fallido cambio de jefes en Agua Prieta se dio la orden de acabar con los traidores. Uno de ellos fue abatido hace menos de un mes (Misael Valencia de Bacadehuachi) en Hermosillo y solo queda el Tolteca. Por cuestion de sobrevivencia el Tolteca se unio a La Linea y ellos incursionaron a Agua Prieta el lunes ya que el Tolteca conocia los controles de respuesta y capacidad de fuego del grupo Paredes en Agua Prieta. El grupo Paredes resistio el ataque y alerto a los otros grupos de apoyo que incluyen a los de Chihuahua. De La Morita Sonora a Galeana Chihuahua (Colonia LeBaron) a paso tranquilo son aproximadamente 8 horas. Esta ruta empieza desde La Morita-Colonia Morelos-Agua Prieta-Janos-Casas Grandes para llegar a Galeana. Pero hay una via alterna que atraviesa la sierra compartida por Sonora y Chihuahua y el tiempo de La Morita a Galeana es de 4 horas. Este camino sale de La Morita-Las Virginias-Pancho Villa-Casas Grandes-Galeana y por eso estas mujeres tomaron ese camino que usalmente usan sin ningun problema por eso iban solas sin hombres. En ese punto de la sierra donde los estados se dividen tanto la Linea como el grupo Paredes tienen sus puntos para identificar quien pasa por ahi. La cuestion de la confusion es esta: se dice que hubo combate prolongado ese dia y si La Linea vencio la batalla pudo pensar que los tres carros eran refuerzos antagonicos del grupo Sinaloa. Por el otro lado si el grupo de apoyo a los Paredes que venia de otra parte de Chihuahua le gano la batalla a La Linea ellos pudieron pensar que los tres carros eran de apoyo a La Linea ya que ese grupo no viven en Sonora y no hay manera que ellos conozcan los carros de los de La Morita. El gobierno sabe bien quien fue pero esta de por medio quien finanzio las campañas de Corral y Pavlovich. Este hecho tan lamentable tendra repercucion como nunca antes visto. El gobierno americano con su politica de extrema derecha quiere sacar tajada de esto y va presionar al gobierno mexicano. Punto y aparte de la presion americana, el gobierno mexicano trae mucha presion interna por la falta de capacidad de manejar este tipo de asuntos. Por el lado civil la economia se va parar por el miedo infundido tanto por los grupos y el gobierno, ejemplo de esto es que cerraron la garita de ganado de exportacion de Agua Prieta. Por el lado del narco abra tambien cambios. Esa ruta de Huachinera a Agua Prieta es usada para transportar droga y con tanta fuerza federal que hay se va parar temporalmente ese negocio. Posiblemente los jefes de jefes re-acomoden a los lugartenientes de agua prieta y la region ya que no pudieron eliminar al Tolteca y indirectamente les calento TODO el terreno.

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    1. Como tu dices La Línea no conoce Sonora tonses no van a conocer las carreteras libres o cortos solamente el grupo que estableció ahí, el govierno no save quien fue porque si supieran ya tomarían cuentas por la presión del govierno Américano

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    2. @11:17 Tonses tu teoría es que fueron la gente nueva que atacó a esta familia?

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    3. ^^translation to English plz many valid points

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    4. Se ve que usted si sabe viejon. Su análisis profesional se escucha de maravilla.

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    5. Sierto viejo la linia se les esta metiendo a sonora ase una semana se metieron a 3 rios y se chingaron a un grupo del jaguar ahy murio un priomo mi del grupo lobos madera las cosas nomas se van a poner mas feas

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    6. chingon el analisis usted si sabe

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    7. Muy informativo compa, manténgase más activo porfavor, ^y si cállate sol lol jk

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    8. In other words he wrote about 5 different who did it and how and why. All speculation he has a great imagination.

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    9. Muy bien informacion gracias

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    10. Gracias por la información. Muy buen análisis, no como otros comentarios que ponen

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    11. Gran imaginacion? Quisiera que fuera parte de mi imaginacion para que esta tragedia no hubiera ocurrido. Por eso como cultura somos mediocres porque nosotros mismos nos atacamos. La mayoria de los sicarios no cursaron ninguna escuela formal asi que no esperes que un sicario tenga en su brazo izquierdo su parche de RANGER. Son carne de cañon, digamos que por causa de nuestra misma mediocridad y falta de humanidad que a cierta parte de la sociedad la hemos orillado a cambiar los juguetes por armas. Por lo tanto, en un momento de combate donde la experiencia en combate es nula y abunda el ruido de las balas, la falta de comunicacion, el miedo y la adiccion a las drogas se vuleve muy facil confundir una suburban llena de niños con una suburban llena de sicarios enemigos.

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  23. When I see people on here saying they should have known better, it really points out that Mexico is a failed state.. and to go further, things have gotten past the point of a failed state, only a military can correct what has been ignored

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    1. Everytime you step outside the usa and even in the usa big cities you can shot stabbed robbed etc. 20 yrs ago you were able to go to mexico and go eat go to club go shopping or go to the festivals in relative peace. Things got bad when the escalation of wars and violence. The current goverment has a dont arrest the cartel leaders even if theyre barbaric in their violence. And basically a dont intervine and go along with it attitude towards criminal groups. One the one side mexico does suffer a damn if you do and damn if you dont problen where the goverment will be criticized either way. I believe that is not in mexicos best interest to capture el mayo. It is not in americas best interest to prosecute and lock up drug lords from none American states or territories. To much money that cld go to other shit.I believe the oppsite of mencho. Due to his barbaric behavior he shld be arrested or killed. Mexico needs to arrest or kill the most violent cartel leaders and let be the ones that dont extort or kill innocent people if theres such bosses out there. Pay and protect better your military and prosecute the violent acts. Throw the book at them. But on the other hand. Pandoras box has been open may be theres no going back to the good old days. One thing is for sure. You cant just cross the border and expect safety. And if you go in a caravan of cars theres abig chance you will be thought of as a cartel convoy and the local criminal group will kill you. Shoot it cld of been mexican soldiers or police even that wld mistake a convoy of cars for a criminal group. Except in this case obviously was the local group. Linea or cds.

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    2. Take care of your Iraq/Afghanistan/Syria wars and your USA country first.... you guys have enough problems over there. Remember Las Vegas? El Paso? Sandy Hook? Yeah that’s what I thought
      This is Mexico’s problem

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    3. Exactly! 100% Agree. Anyone who thinks that hugs are going to solve this needs to get their head examined. What were people thinking when they voted for this payaso.

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    4. Military is ran by the currupted government, sorry wont happen.

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    5. Calderon tried that in 06 although they did snag a bunch of high profile targets the side effect was that it kicked up a lot of dust & set off major violence across the country when these groups split up. Which is inevitable in an all out war between Army & DTo's, forget about the US army coming in to "clean up" that would be a big PR nightmare if something went wrong. we have a major deal on the table between Canada/US/Mex. military action into another country especially one of our biggest trading partners is unthinkable at this point in time.

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  24. United States needs to determine what cartels operate on that area and do a mass arrest of criminals on the US side of the border. Stop the blame game and help Mexico with intelligence about criminal groups. Under the Mexican constitution Mexico can not allow other countries to battle the criminals on Mexico soil.

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    1. WTF are you talking about?? The U.S. intelligence community HAS tried to help Mexico - they’ve always tried to help Mexican authorities! How the fuck you think they found Ovidio? Eeny, Meanie, Miney, Moe? The Mexican authorities are so fucking corrupt that they usually take the info they receive from the U.S. Intelligence community and then turn around and tip off the cartels!! Wake up. Also - when push comes to shove, the U.S. doesn’t give a fuck about the Mexican constitution lol - trust me - they have no reason to - what is Mexico gonna do? Nothing. Mexico is a failed state.

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    2. But they sure cant handle thier problems, 30,000 will die this year/

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    3. 9:52 pm. Oh please is not like the United States can handle their shit really good. They haven’t been able to stop the flow of weapons and money down south. They haven’t been able to stop the flow of drugs up north or the sale of the same drugs. Don’t come around telling us that you guys are the shit in the entire world because on moments like this one you are just a big mouth. Your involvement in Iraq took that country down to shit and all the abuses were never prosecuted.

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    4. 11:25....your country ain't much better than Iraq at this point.

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    5. 7:17 am. Hell yeah we are. Iraq is not a walk in the park. They are still getting blasted every now and then. Their infrastructure has not recover 100% yet. Violence in Mexico with drug cartels is a threat and police are doing what they can. Obviously not as much as everyone will hope. 9 innocent people died on an act of violence by criminal groups. But United States has had incidents like this one where 10, 20, 30 or more people get killed at once. Is not like you are 100% safe in the USA.

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  25. The comments from THE MINISTRY of DEFENSE demonstrates the hopeless FACT that much of Mexico is a lawless mess where armed Criminal Narco Terrorist roam at will. Shootouts in towns murder on the highway Chapos Son dictating terms to Law Enforcement ?? The Tail waggs the dog in Mexico This is a ignorant insanity that has been tolerated forever ??

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    1. For 36yrs. This is nothing new.
      Amlo isn't to blame. Cedillo, Fox, calderon and nieto. Left mexico in ruins. The cartels gained strength in the past terms. And the US equipping them with guns didn't help much(fast & furious) .

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    2. Dude, the narcos control Mexico lock stock and barrel. They own the police, the military and the government. They are not the tail - they are the dog.

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    3. 3:17 - Yes! Finally someone speaking the truth!

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  26. They can't get the correct cartel that did this horrible act.

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    1. They should just exterminate all cartels that linger in that area, no questions asked, not necessary to detain, they are ruthless killers. Then again another new cartel will take over the area.

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  27. Cds has been extorting , killing and taking indigenous and local people's land In Chihuahua BUT PEOPLE DONT CARE ABOUT THAT and won't make world HEADLINES

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    1. Because cds is a cartel that pays or threatens media to silence their crimes. That is el mayos style, complete secrecy of everything.

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    2. Thats true CDS is only good to people in Sinaloa but they don't respect people in other states.

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    3. It wasn’t a sinaloense that took my uncles in Maderas house and cars it was people from chihuahua .. it wasn’t people from out of state that killed my grandmas neighbors for not paying cuota it was people from chihuahua, a friends ranch and cattle was taken by force in namiquipa and guess what .. it wasn’t a Sinaloenses either it was people from the same town .. so don’t come with these bullshit stories .. everyone is out to fuck each other in Mexico

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    4. Chihuahuenses del la gente nueva

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  28. people don't confuse these lebarons headed by Julian as the bad one of several years ago. he fights for the land rights of people with javier Sicilia. he does good work. his only trouble is he is accused of drilling irrigation wells on his pecan farms. they have been in mexico for more than 100 years. they are very hard workers. yes some of the family were bad guys but also these ones were hurt very much by narcos. kidnapping, rape extortion. Julian refused to pay. but before 15 years ago no problems for all those years. they are kind people who love mexico and mexico is their birthplace. ask us who know. don't read old stories that are not about them. like the devil Ervil LeBaron. the news media in eu is so mixed up and says inaccurate things. like mexico

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  29. Of course they would divert all negative attention from the cartel
    They are just drug dealers they dont hurt anyone
    Smh

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  30. Aquí la verdad de lo sucedido en Bavispe ,donde gente armada de la LINEA o NUEVO CARTEL DE JUAREZ ,liderada en esa zona por el mudo o el COMA 32,embosco a la familia LeBaron por equivocación o quizá por qué ya estaba planeada ,ya que los grupos barzonistas están siendo apoyados por LA LINEA y al tener conflictos con la Familia LeBaron ,los barzonistas le pidieron ayuda a la LINEA para que los asesinara , que aunque haya corrientes en Agua prieta como el TIN ,no fueron los responsables ,sino fue el GRUPO DE LA LINEA ,que ha estado entrando a los límites de Sonora ,como lo que pasó hace tiempo en Yecora y Tesopaco donde quemaron viviendas y levantaron a un gran número de ciudadanos inocentes,no crean lo que dicen esas personas por qué son puras mentiras ,aquí es todo la verdad que el gobierno jamás va aceptar ,dejen de culpar a la empresa

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  31. This theory is plausible.

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  32. Send in the Navy seals and get rid of CARTELS

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  33. AMLO vendió su alma por dollares. Que Trump mande a todo su ejército pa ponerles en la madre a esta bola de terroristas que tormentan al pueblo Mexicano. Listo y dispuesto pa liberar my gente de este desmadre.

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  34. So...when white people die the world cries. Sad, that no one took light of the thousands of others deaths at the hands of these sociopaths.

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  35. Doesn't make sense when it happened in GN territory.

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  36. Get ready papa. We’re gonna see who has the big balls. Trump is coming to Mexico and no cartel has enough money to bribe him. Mexico is a beautiful country, with great people. But their government Is not concerned about their interest. Get you country back, get it back from the thugs and the dirty politicians. Mexico should be greater than it is.

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  37. I Hope senor Ivan will dispatch some security support from gente nueva to handle those babykillers

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  38. we need your support für all the innocents!! puro gente Ivan

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  39. Nobody knows who did it...bunch of finger pointing. First off why did they take these dirt roads to get home? Why did they not use the regular highways? Those are always the reports to stay on the main highways when traveling in Mexico. Overall this is sad.

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  40. No way was this la linea. Look at the videos and see that its a back road with hills and alot of brush....GN runs this area.... i say it was the army or cops that did this...

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  41. what I’m trying to say is the whole thing that’s Been happening in Mexico is a DOUBlE EDGED sword I was born in the US. both my parents were born in Nayarit, Mexico both came to America through Tijuana on work visas in the early 90s
    Anyway I’ve herd story’s from my parents on how the government does nothing for its citizens
    And how corrupt Mexico is but also how it gave them a push to come to the US and to give better opportunities for their kids which I’m forever grateful for the rest of my life. The reason I say it’s a double edged sword is because I live in America I don’t see what’s going on in Mexico that’s why I go on bb (thank you for what you guys/girls do) most people in my family know familys that have family members in organized crime
    Including my family. All I’m saying is that the majority of Mexican citizens from what I know is that they also have family members in organized crime in Mexico making it hard for them to choose who to put their trust in whether it be the cartel or the government. The government hasn’t made it hard for the citizens to favour there family who’s Organization gives back to the community’s unlike the government in Mexico.
    I can see why people in Mexico don’t want help from the US because they just don’t trust there own government as it is and especially not a foreign one. Hate it or love it the people of Culiacán where relieved things went back to normal After October 17th.
    I wouldn’t get most of you people to understand unless you have family on both sides of the conflict.

    -SD

    I really hope this gets published if it does it does and if it doesn’t oh well because I really mean this with all my heart.

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  42. So.. violence was getting out of hand so let the women and children head out to a wedding on a Monday morning with no guard or chaperone? Does that even make sense? Do Mormon men skip weddings on Monday mornings?

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