Saturday, September 7, 2019

Video: CJNG forcibly recruits the young and sends them to "war" without training or pay

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat TY Gabacho from VXT

–What cartel do you work for?
–For the Cartel Jalisco.
- And why did you surrender--- because you guys are not so brave?
-Because ...
-Why did you give up?
-Why? Because  I don't know how to fight.
–Don't you know how to fight?
-No.
- Do they forcibly recruit?
-Yes sir.


Then talking to the second kid:
- You, wey, why did you give up?
"Because I had never used a gun and I'm a coward."
–What cartel do you work for?
–For the Cartel Jalisco
–Who do you work for?
- "Panter", "Comandante Raya", "Sontes" and "Perro".
- I think he was just killed.
-They killed him?
- Ah good….What message do you send to people who are from Jalisco, what do you say to those from Jalisco?
- Let them get fucked because ...
- To stay out of the way, because they are no match with community police?!


Towards the end of the interrogation, they are asked how long they have been recruited,  the young man in a red shirt responds "about a week ago, sir and I have not been paid"

The interrogator is surprised and says “they don't get paid!” And that's where the recording ends.

According to unofficial information, the young people (one of them with a head injury) are linked to the clashes in the municipality of Los Reyes, in the state of Michoacán, in the region known as Zacán.

Since Friday, August 30, members of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel have violently ventured into Michoacán municipalities such as Tepalcatepc, where cartel hitmen commanded by Nemesio Oseguera “El Mencho” allegedly were looking for Juan José Farías Álvarez, aka “El Abuelo”. they were repelled by members of the self-defense groups, confrontation that left 9 dead and 11 wounded.

80 comments:

  1. The guy in red shirt is full of shit. If you check his FB you can see that he started being a sicario a few years ago. No way he has been recruited a week ago. His name is Gerardo Banuelos Arana.

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    1. Yes, his Facebook goes back to 2013. This guy has been chopping and bagging people for years.

      https://www.facebook.com/victormanuel.molinares

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    2. Wow. Very true. Looks like he used to be a Templario years ago then became Jalisco. How did you come up on the profile? Good catch.. Looks like he joined when he was young. Most definitely has seen and had his share of bodies. Hes a flipper and he quits when he is out gunned. Does what he has to to survive I guess

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    3. Looks like he used to be or support Templarios in 2014

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    4. Like cjng are going to send newbies to fight in michoacan lol


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    5. Good catch! Dr K

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    6. Interesting. Maybe this video is staged after all!

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  2. Maybe they are afraid of what happened with the federal government and the military in Juarez to happen in Michoacan.

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  3. Viagras are allies with el abuelo now.
    Reports indicate, the sicarios weren’t just gente
    Del abuelo but viagras aswell.


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    1. Viagra is a big hit with the abuelos everywhere. Ha ha. Sorry, couldn't resist. These names crack me up

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    2. 10:01 te mamaste puñetas jajajaja ese abuelo si necesita viagras pa funcionar jajajaja

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    3. Si, 154. Tiene razon. :D

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  4. I don’t believe that the cartel will force people to join. Those kids were defeated and they are just telling the enemy whatever they want to hear.

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    1. They absolutely do! I don't know about cjng and this video is scripted imo---but tuta and zetas was notorious for going into impoverished areas bursting into homes and taken young kids as foot soldiers and ct took girls to rape. even little girls.

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    2. CHIVIS I REMEMBER AN ARTICLE WHERE CJNG PUT ADS ON THE NEWSPAPER FACEBOOK AND WHATSAPP TO HIRE PEOPLE WITH A GOOD PAYING JOB BUT GOT KIDNAP TO BECOME SICARIOS. https://lasillarota.com/nacion/asi-es-como-el-cjng-usa-facebook-para-reclutar-sicarios-recluta-sicarios-secuestra-testimonios/270447

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  5. Nothing but propaganda lol.

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    1. 3:31 YEP, why would CJNG contract elite nobodys from the bottom of the barrel? Then to unleash them where they will be found and made to sing is not worth the price of their weapons, unless it was done for propaganda, and to attract federal help to line up against El Mencho and CJNG, because the miagras need all the help they can get.

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    2. 7:27 You are not very bright. They get those kids because they dont have to pay them barely anything. You are definetely new here..

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  6. I hope they didn't kill them

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  7. Sorry guys but it is getting hard for me to feel bad for the Mexican people at this point. They don't have the guts for what needs to be done.

    Trust me...if this were happening in the US politicians would be on crosses being flayed to death as I write.

    What Mexico needs is a REVOLUTION. Things will have to get worse before they get better. And I assure you it will get worse regardless.

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    1. Because 90% of the population have to work to feed their families. I call bullshit if this were USA...Sandy Hook happened and not a damn thing was done. Every year kids in usa are gunned down, innocent at that and no one bats an eye.

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    2. IT IS HAPPENING IN THE USA...THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THEY MOSTLY CALL IT GANG RELATED AN EXAMPLE CHICAGO L.A. AND SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE USA.

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    3. Jaja offcourse you guys would be you guys in the good ole U. S of A dont stand for this sort of stuff. I mean look at all the action you guys are taking over all the kids and women been kilked in the almost daily mass shootings. I could only imagine what you ballsy people would be doing if these things happened up there.....

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    4. "If" 30 plus people shot and several murdered in Chicago alone every single weekend, please man don't talk about what if this would happen in the US because it does. Not to mention the al paso and Odessa mass shootings to name a few . Wake up fool. - An Old School Latin King -

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    5. The weekend shootings in Chicago are gang related, nobody cares not even the mothers and fathers burying their sons....they would rather visit them in a cemetery rather than in a prison.

      The other mass shooting are by individuals with mental conditions and most of the time their are killed.

      If gangs were targeting innocent people week in and week out outside of inner cities you would have thousands of people taking the law into their own hands with legal weapons mind you and making it right....there is just not need for that right now like it is happening on a massive scale in Mexico.

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  8. The picture at top . . . bravado, machismo . . . the video at bottom . . . . I feel sorry for this dude

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  9. Staged by abuelas

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    1. 4:29 doesn't look stage, unlike those cjng videos...

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    2. 4:29 Chivis, some people call you abuela...
      Time to come clean and confess.

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  10. False that kid had been involved with organized crime since 2013 he started with the templarios. CJNG took Huetamo everyone it the area became CJNG. Type his name on facebook and you can even find a picture of him when he was just a kid 12 or 13 that top pic came from his facebook.

    He was captured east of Tancitaro most likly killed. The reason the war between CJNG and El Abuelo and Poncho el de los Reyes started was because Poncho betrayed El Morisceto they nicknamed him la Mackina the Machine. El Abuelo sided with him while Poncho went and accepted the Viagras offer. All the military and government that is currently in Tepaltepec was sent in by the Viagras.

    Now that Tepeke and Los Reyes sided with the Viagras they are attacking Los 5 del Pueblo who at one time Tepeke was supporting. While the Military and police that Silvano sent the Viagras to reinforce Tepeke watch their back while they attack Buenavista. Viagras only Control La Ruana.

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    1. 4:33 for what I know El morisqueto was with the viagras

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    2. Castillo, Silvano Aurioles and EPN gave in to the viagras.

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    3. El morisqueto was killed by viagras.

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    4. The guy was captured in the tepeque clash.

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  11. Most likely they had to say that but then again I have heard that cjng has done this before but feel sorry for those kids .What's funny to me is that not to long ago alot of michocanos y jaliscos would be talking so much shit about todos LPLV and know its los michocanos are like f@*k los jalisco they can't see us look what happens to them in michoacan and I don't understand then if mencho is from michoacan why did they name ther group cjng and he seends jaliscos to fight with his people so were is menchos real alliance at if not with his own piasanos de Michoacan that should really make them worry cause if cjng wins full control of thst state i fill sorry for the people its going to get why worse then even when los zetas were in michoacan and even los templiaros.

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    1. Cuz his cartel is based in jalsico and profit is the objective not state pride

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    2. Chivis can u start asking people to write right! No periods,no exclamation marks,alot of run on sentences and shit load of paragraphs! My head hurts reading this shit!

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    3. People
      Don’t care about what state they come from.
      They just want to make money

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    4. LPLV what does that stand for?

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    5. @9:38 ... finally someone that’s right on the money ... don’t waste your time trying to enlighten the ignorant kids claiming that what state your from has anything to do with the cartel war .. when you have two cartels in states that are neighbors you have ppl jumping ship from one to the next regardless of where they’re from .. in Sinaloa for example you had ppl from Chihuahua and Durango claiming CDS and in Chihuahua you had sinaloenses claiming La Línea .. now if you bring a cartel from way on the other side of the country like Zetas or CJnG to Sinaloa or Chihuahua you won’t see that same scenario since those cartels are total strangers to the region and will probably not last anyway

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    6. You mean write correctly? :)
      I will not be the grammar police, some of our best comments come from ESL followers, if it is painful---don't read it.

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    7. 4:40 do you know what critical thinking is?

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  12. Id say anything to please them.... its like every ohter video

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    1. Honestly haha probably made a deal not to get his head cut off and take a bullet instead

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  13. Mencho not only orders the killing of innocent children and women, he forces slave kids to kill the innocents. What a POS!

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  14. These are Menchos grupo elite LOL bunch of rag tag kids who were kidnapped. Mencho doesnt stand a chance against Abuelo.

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  15. These are the so called Grupo Elite from CJNG . They dress up in Camo and play soldiers. The only elite cartel operators are Gente Nueva Special Forces .

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    1. Bro stfu already

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    2. That’s why they’re (GNSF) never in the news...

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    3. And they didn’t help el señor chapo out when he got caught? R i assume this was the plan all along

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    4. No such thing as GNSF. This is 006's team name on Call of Duty.

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  16. AMLO is in tamaulipas talking with columna armada CDG and columna armada CJNG

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    1. 6:27 the presidente opposed making pacts with criminals, even Sanchez Cordero had to say that while announcing that she was being fired and renounced and oppressed at her position by all sides, both friends and foes.
      Meanwhile resigned traitor Carlos Urzua who went to the tech of Nuevo Lion to work his associates against AMLO wants to come back as director of INEGI.
      THERE ARE MEDICAL CRAP PILLS, they would do wonders for your ills, better than this Crocky Potty, as a matter of fack Tamaulipas governor cabeza de cagadas de vacas has requested his state be free of Guardia Nacional because in his view, his private state police "Fuerza Tamaulipas" he controls can do the job,
      and they do it by killing the designated criminals du jour,
      (then blaming the other cartels)

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    2. Amlo if talking to Cartel works do it

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    3. @7:23 talking to cartels does not work. Por eso esta mexico donde esta!

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  17. Piece of shit mencho recruiting kids hope they get him soon

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  18. Sicarios rarely get paid on purpose. Everyone know this, like Cholo Ivan begging Chapo for money over the phone. Nothing new. But this is obviously a setup by Menchos rivals.

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  19. The ones interrogating are viagras

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  20. Nobody forced him to do anything and he definitely didnt get hooked up w/ the cartel a week before the video. RIP

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  21. Well at least he is not recruiting mothers with children like el abuelo

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  22. Puras pendejadas. A soldado with no drive or pilas is useless for your cause.

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  23. I’m not familiar with el Abuelo, is he part of the viagras?

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    1. Independent of deep west michoacan

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    2. No HES a Viagras now.

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  24. elite commandos LOL can’t even spell their own names or tie their shoes....

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  25. El mencho mother fucker of we will found you I will cut in to pieces

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  26. That's got to be a lie, what about all the training camp they find in jalisco?

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  27. At least they dont use toddlers like cds lol

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  28. Looks like abuelo and viagras are scared

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    1. Abuelos citizens fought off CJNG last week and won. And here you go saying..Abuelo is scared, give me a break...are you from Russia creating fake news lol.

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    2. Abuelo WAS scared enough to pact with the people he was preventing/fighting from entering his town -Los viagras- .

      Sounds like “miedo” to me.

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  29. Abuelo, viagras, old CT remanentes, gente de los reyes and all other independent groups and everyone else and their grandparents united to
    Combat CJNG in Michoacán(lmao).



    And still greed will get the better of them with
    Viagras being involved in they’re truce(count down to the infighting).

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  30. Cjng a bunch of cowards who dress up like their call of duty characters. Bunch of clowns. Anyone caught a cjng member deserves immediate execution.

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  31. That kid is full of shit. He knows what to say to maybe stay alive. I was in Los Reyes this past April. My family is from there. It was tranquilo you can say. But my family grows raspberries and they were being taxed a lot. They had to sell their boxes of raspberries at $20.00 PESOS a box. The cartel was keeping most of the profit I assume. I would occasionally see a group of two trucks newer trucks. Sit at the plaza full of late teens early 20's they didn't bother anyone tho. Also one thing me and my girl noticed there was so many new cars and trucks there. 2019 gmc's Toyotas Chevy's all brand new models. Corvettes Cadillac BMW everything... Also a lot of cars had Texas plate. I didn't see a single California plate. You can order any kind of drug like it's pizza a guy in a little motorcycle/scooter will deliver to you in 15 minutes.

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  32. No pay? That's insane! I dont believe that. Everyone gets a piece. If you blow it on drugs and booze or give it to skanks that's on you!

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  33. What do you guys think about this video? Especially the stuff said after 8:30?

    https://www.facebook.com/326296894487740/posts/670389060078520?sfns=xmwa

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  34. Crazy to think his last post was July 19 and now this mf dead. It looked like only one person on his friends list was paying attention to recent events. He had a good run, being active since 2014 in that life. To anyone who thinks this is legit, just think would you say anything to avoid your head being sawed off and days of more torture? You know he’s dead because they ask what do you say to those in Jalisco, not what will you say when you’re back in Jalisco. Guy probably deserved it

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