Thursday, March 7, 2019

Michoacán/Apatzingán: Alleged CJNG Convoy Through City Causes Shootings

Oaxaqueño for Borderland Beat




Late on Sunday at around 23:00 hrs, presumed shootings between members of CJNG and Los Viagras broke out in the city of Apatzingán. Reportedly, they lasted over two hours up until 01:30 hrs and were spread across various of Apatzingán’s colonias. Local inhabitants reporting the alleged skirmishes distributed self-made videos on WhatsApp in which the bursts of gunfire can be heard. According to a local news outlet, there was a convoy consisting of several cars with the abbreviation “CJNG” on their side and armed men aboard circulating in the city. Despite these reports, authorities, who failed to intervene, have stated that they could neither find evidence of clashes nor potential victims. As a result of that, no number of casualties has officially been reported.


Oaxaqueño Analysis:

What exactly happened in Apatzingán on Sunday night currently remains unclear. The local news outlet which informed about the alleged CJNG convoy also reported that purportedly, the “parading” CJNG sicarios were only shooting in the air. However, this version seems highly unlikely given the length of the shooting and the sequences and high frequency of the bursts of gunfire heard. Furthermore, it is inconceivable that a CJNG convoy could circulate in Apatzingán for such a long time without encountering any form of resistance at the hands of their rivals, Los Viagras. Apatzingán is considered the criminal epicenter of the so-called Tierra Caliente. The most credible version, which is also reported by most Mexican news outlets, is that harsh clashes really took place. Consequently, casualties on both sides are likely. So why there is no number on casualties? Two possible explanations: First, the battling sicarios might have taken their wounded or fallen comrades with them (a known pattern). Or secondly, the casualties are simply not reported given that this would obviously contradict the authorities’ official version, namely, there were no clashes.

In general, Sunday night’s violent encounters are just the latest in a series of clashes in the region between CJNG and Los Viagras. Most prominently, the areas of Apatzingán and Buenavista, which are the strongholds of Los Viagras, have increasingly been the scene of such violent incidents in recent months. It is very hard to determine which of the rivaling criminal groups is gaining the upper hand in this conflict. Nevertheless, CJNG seem to have ramped up their struggle for control over the region in recent time. Consequently, Los Viagras appear to have lost their strong grip over the region they once have had following the demise of the Knights Templar Cartel some years ago.


90 comments:

  1. Do gangs ever actually make progress in taking over territories? More often than not it just seems like they end up in an eternal stalemate.

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    1. The Zetas took over a lot of territories very fast, back in their hay days. CDS, too, managed to take Tijuana from the Arellanos and keep it for many years.

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    2. Tijuana has never been fully controlled by CDS there was a point when they controlled many sections of the big city but those days are long gone and will eventually be history like the AFO

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    3. Zetas did it by sending men to the frontlines. CDS did it by SNITCHING and paying the government.

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    4. No, not eventually. Unfortunately for you. No other cartel will ever invade or fight in Sinaloa, other than sinaloenses. Unlike Tijuana CAFMX has lost control since Ingeniero/Tigrillo days. Ever since Teo/3Letras flipped CDS infiltrated, I know one has been able 2 get rid of them.

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    5. So true...... Not cheering for the Arellanos, but Tijuas was nice place to get away to, NOT ANY MORE....... Stupid CHAPO, started a war not just in Tijuas but the whole country..... BLAME DUMB ASS CHAPO FOR THAT...

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    6. That’s somewhat true. In the Viagars case it’s just a matter of time before they irradicate them from those areas. Just like they did with the Templar Knights, as a matter a fact some of the Viagras are former Knight or FM that happened to sneak in the Rural Forces that eventually the Viagars came out of. In TJ CDS has always had a presence but it was never their Plaza. I even recall at one point they were paying plaza to get their work in. That has since died out and well now they Akiles bros are getting ran out. By the joint forces of CTNG and what’s left of CAF. Which by the way CTNG are basically former CAF members. I believed it used to be a cell that Teo had, once he got busted they were orphaned ja ja ja.

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    7. Nice Sinaloa hate thread

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    8. @6:22 A Mexican standoff? I hope that's not offensive or stereotyping.

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    9. Its very funny how everyone blames Chapo. All of the big capos were trying to rob and steal from eachother 24-7..they all are just crazy and cant hold pacts or agreements. Theres alot more blame to go around then just Chapo.

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    10. 5:35 blaming El Chapo for everything is, like, you know?
      Retarded, specially when there is so much evidence that some Americans and a lot of Mexican puppets have been involved in all the shit since the 60's, and if you look deeper, since the Chinese arrived in Sinaloa and California, probably to get the ball rolling, the American and the German and the British quarters used to be very famous for their profitable opium dens right in China, and there were other specialties...
      --The Opium Wars accuses the British of being the biggest narcos since the 1700's from India to China to the UK and Europe way before El Chapo and El Mayo were born.
      --read history, not communist propaganda, or porn

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    11. 7:43 not fully controlled but if you went to la tia five years ago it sure looked like they did. And they wasn’t paying piso no more. Ctng now has more of the tia para el que no sepa.

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    12. 1:56 how would you know that was there signs on the streets that said we do not pay piso

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    13. 10:56 Not true years ago some Zetas did get in Sinaloa if I recall correctly there was like 4 or 5 Zetas holed up in a house shooting it out with the military.. none died I think and they were caught.Question is where were the CDS at?

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    14. There are always cells of opposing cartels in other cartels’ plazas. For example, Los Viagras have people in TJ. Nobody talks about it, but it’s true. They just captured a Viagras cell leader named Jaime Macias (El Aleluyo/Pescador) in Baja California. El Aleluyo was in charge of crossing Viagras’ crystal into the US and procuring weapons and tactical equipment from the US.
      Source: https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2418807311486292&id=859381277428911&set=a.859384777428561&refid=13&__tn__=%2B%3D

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    15. Sinaloa is not an important plaza like Tijuana or michoacan with the biggest port in western hemisphere. If Sinaloa was worth taking , mencho would already be there. The truth is EVERY cartel works in all states depending on the need.

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  2. Video translation is as follows:
    Man : That’s how the firepower sounds. They’ve been at it awhile. Son of a bitch! This fucking war isn’t going to end.
    Woman : Luis!
    Man : What?...
    Everything pauses. Look at this, this shit just doesn’t end.
    - Sol Prendido

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  3. Cuando los michoacanos se enfrentan asta el govierno les teme.. banda machos

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    1. Este wey salio con la banda mochos lol. Que sigue lo que diga cristian castro?

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    2. lmao no mames

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    3. 4:11 Christian Castro diria "conmigo no se metan perras,
      porque les enseno las nachas"

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    4. Buen corrido, nada false como los de chapo y sus sicarios jaja

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  4. About time. Viagras gonna END up like CT , they're done for and the michiacanos are fed up with them.

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  5. The Zetas had michoacan under their teeth back in 2000-2006
    even original Z10 Pitalua was arrested in Michoacan back in 2004, when practicing in operation to kick CDS/Milenio/BLO and save LFM ass, before LFM back stabbed Zetas in 2006
    also in 2004, los Zetas freed 25 inmates from Apatzingan prison

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    1. Cds groupies always with these nonsense.. is that you Micheal miller AKA sicario 006? 9:39

      If you don't know the history STFU..
      Here's the deal, el mas loco, el chango were Zetas for the michoacan area (michoacanos) when Zetas were getting strong they were taxing and taking loads from independent drug sellers in michoacan and trying to take their lands for cultivation. El mas loco and el chango got furious and got all the michoacanos together and formed LFM to fight the Zetas. they announced their fight with a couple Decapitated heads in a night club with a Cartulina (message) against Zetas and they got rid of them quick. That was the first if not 9ne of the first narco messages in Mexico next to decapitated bodies. The familia michoacana was what cjng is today but never reached 5hat point because of Calderon who made the michoacanazo to get rid of LFM. LFM had plans like mencho to make la familia guanajuato, familia jalisco and so on... mencho got that idea from them.. just saying..

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    2. This is so true but its funny how they seem to forget los zetas had los Michoacános de los valencias and ther mencho scared for ther lives hidding in jalisco.that's when CDS helped los Valencia /form mata zetas

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    3. Cds did not make mata Zetas pendejo

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    4. Omar Lormendez Pitalua (comandante pita, Z10) active military from 7/21/1991 to 11/26/1999, captured in Michoacán on 9/21/2005. Released in 2016 and currently one of the leaders of ZVE.

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    5. 12:28 dont waste your time, the sinaloas already know the history pero se asen pendejos... No outside cartel has EVER taken michoacan. The Zetas that were there were golfos/Zetas michoacan. Got taken out when they tried to run shit. Facts.

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    6. Familia michoacana was hard core, big threat to chapo so he snitched on them. Got Calderon to take them out, wonder if mayo will do the same to mencho... mayo has NO CHANCE sicario wise, mencho's crew makes them look like school girls

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  6. Viagras falling apart their lieutenant flippin, splinters cells forming CJNG invading. About time, someone gets those tecatos out. - Zamora, Michoacan .

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    1. It’s the Michoacanos own fault, they would tolerate and accept all that shit and only cuz biagras will blame cjng for all the bullshit viagras will do and the people will eat all that up just cuz cjng comes from Jalisco. Ignorance hate selfishness

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    2. Cjng are michoacanos too tonto, mencho just wanted that plaza and been trying most of his life and finally got in

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  7. When will these greedy fucks understand that all this fighting doesn't make no $$$$ ??? Smh I miss the old Mexico in the late 90s when all you had to worry about was a de caminos trying to hustle you out of 20 pesos..

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    1. too much poverty. They will never organize as there are too many egos that simply are not smart enough. Looks like felix gallardo did it and other people tried with no success

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    2. 5:19 Policia Federal de Caminos, they got greedy with tow trucks and stolen cars thanks to Mexican policia judicial federal and DFS that trafficked them into Mexico and marihuana to the US with the Guadalajara cartel, some lebanese were heavy into it, like Miguel Nazar Haro and commander Julian slim helu and millionaire US Congressman Darrell Issa

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  8. Zetas have always been the best at taking over territory’s they done it very quickly in the past and that’s why cdn expanding again they’re isint gonna be much to stop them as 40 calling shots with el tori and el cadete and government backing there very wealthy cdn and have the most lucrative plaza with no one competing with them in Nuevo Laredo where as every other crossing is competed over there growing richer and there numbers are going up all the time making a lot of noise

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    1. Tijuana is a thousand times more lucrative then Nuevo Laredo.

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  9. Tangible evidence of a failed state. AMLO has failed before he ever got started. This is activity that requires a national address by the government. Absent that it is business as usual except the violence is escalating, not diminishing. Mexico is at an historic low point.

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    1. 6:02 AMLO has been in power for 3 months, not enough to even get anything started, but I guess you can tell us how many times you criticized EPN or his congenerates for 100 years of PRIISMO or panismo... With the most despicable results, no mames!

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    2. I agree. Mexico is a hopeless failed State and AMLO never had a chance... in part because way too many Mexican people are compromised by fear and symbiotic (parasitic) self interests with criminal organizations. To me, what happened to La Nena de Nuevo Laredo is graphically symbolic of the situation today. I still think of her patriotic heroism and the way she died... her head on a computer keyboard on top of a major street monument.

      BTW, has anyone polled the "Indios" (indigenous people) about what they think? Basically, they are oppressed invisible victims who have no power or voice in Mexico's situation. Who cares? No mas son indios ignorantes.

      IMO: AMLO has never ever had a chance to correct the status quo...nor will he ever despite good intentions. Those who have hope for Mexico will be disappointed yet again. BTW, what ever happened to Dr. Mireles?
      Mexico-Watcher

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    3. AMLO failed before he ever started THATS fucken impossible ? Rephrase yourself please , you might've meant PEÑA NIETO and everyone else before him fucked it up for AMLO.

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    4. 6:27 Salinas and Zedillo stole their elections from Cuauhtemoc Cardenas who "failed" both times...
      --AMLO "failed" to get the presidency because FECAL and epn stole their elections from him, but on the third time the people was not going to stand still, and if AMLO doesn't watch it the motherfackers will get his ass like they did with Madero, Villa, Zapata, Guerrero, Sandino, Goroztieta, Allende, Torrijos and even Manuel Noriega... Madero disbanded the revolutionary armies and kept the corrupt porfirista military in place seeking their approval and their kisses, Vitoriano Huerta promptly conspired with the US ambassador Henry Lane Wilson over alcohol and grifa to end the maderismo and the hijack the revolution, the US had financed it anyways...

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    5. AMLO has good intentions to reverse a status quo that has deepened inequality among its citizens.
      Like many countries whose citizens far outweigh those elite. Where the basic necessities for living are being monopolized by greed.
      American citizens are ot much better shape.
      With inflation rates rising and pay increases at a bare minimum expect challenges in Americas upcoming elections. New demographics of voters who are not pleased with government policies. Favoring big companies and corporations for money.

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  10. Tf is this? do this clowns think they are at mardi grass or tge west holliwood lgbt parade? Which some of them clowns try that here in any american city. Am pretty sure mencho was riding in one of them trucks with a stipper pole all oiled up with his cocks or roosters dancing to deep house music or what ever these tweekers listen to over there.

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    1. In dieing man

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    2. That was deep.

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    3. 6:34 holy shit that wins comment of the article hands down lMaO its a wrap gentlemen on to the next battlr in the comment section.

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    4. @6:34 learn how to spell PENDEJO, and I
      Dare you to come
      To “MICHIGAN” and say that sheeit.. all y’all no action. Michoacános like to keep low profiles, not show off and bark all loud like other people. We just here to work. Ahora entrale al topon pinche tacuache jediondo.

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    5. 1:34 most michoachangos i know are sinaloa wannabes. They try to dress like them, listen to their music, try to talk like them, try to wear jewelry till a tinto jacks their shit. U niggahs are all bark till u get checked. Btw who the fuck wants to go to michoacan? What for?
      Puro Oblatos Guanatos Jalisco y Tepa

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  11. Police department telling the civilian, pheasants...no shooting, no cartel convoy, yet the video proves more. Police are with side by side with the cartel.

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    1. Pheasants rearing their ugly heads. Such a dirty bird.

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    2. Pheasants lol

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    3. Peacocks are cool doe

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  12. Gangs ups and downs seem to be related to the governments in charge of different turfs, they do not subsist without each other support and are even political party related, with a flange to each.
    The last clear example were Javier Duarte de Ochoa, his SSP del Estado, Arturo Bermudez zurita, their police arresting the victims and delivering them to "Los Fieles" death squads extorting and murdering and chopping up people by the dozens, with maybe no investigations, but surely with NO RESULTS this FAR, TWO YEARS AFTER THE FALL of la marrana duarte...
    --Animal Politico, "Scretario de Seguridad de Duarte sale de prision..." apparently forced disappearances is not a crime that requires preventive prison, according to a judge,
    --they documented the disappearances like nazis for gosshakes! Duarte loves clear accounting and to micromanage to make sure nobody steals from him, but we lack smart people to follow up big things like this.

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  13. Cjng dropped many viagras/anthrax that day, mayo thinking of retreating like when cds sicarios went to tamaulipas

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    1. What does el mayo have to do with this?

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    2. Wasnt that a convoy group called los 500 or los 300?

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    3. Mayo been supplying el Gordo with cash to get cjng out and still getting beat. That's old news but theirs no stopping mencho in michoacan!

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    4. 300 or 500 these nacos be watching too many movies.

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    5. yes i was there

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    6. Jalsica fangirls are so funny y’all cant be took seriously anymore

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    7. 10:52 you mean Sinaloa fan girls? I see more fake information from Sinaloa cheerleaders than a other getting posted lol

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    1. 11:21 PRESIDENT AMLO, to you, little pos, don't get confused.

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    2. 8:02 defends that dumb ass elmo amlo as if his "president" will defend him lol u fkn millenials are pathetic

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  15. Good afternoon BB I was just visiting in Coahuayana Michocan last week I heard around that there was going to be a meeting with the plaza crew who operates there with the plaza crew from Tecoman Colima I was told they are rivals does anyone know who they are affiliated with

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    1. Colima CJNG / coahuayana viagras splitter group

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  16. Good afternoon BB I was just visiting in Coahuayana Michocan last week I heard around that there was going to be a meeting with the plaza crew who operates there with the plaza crew from Tecoman Colima I was told they are rivals does anyone know who they are affiliated with

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  17. Mad shit happening. Friday morning in miguel aleman it was the turn of cdn getting their asses kicked by cdg

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  18. The perros of CJNG are just trying to find a new home since they are getting run out of Jalisco, Colima,and the whole Pacific region. If you ever notice, they start a fight in a plaza but can never keep it. They make an alliance with local cartulinas and eventually they lose the relationship bc the groups are starting to realize that CJNG just uses them and trys to make a power grab but it never happens. Even dumb as CTNG are getting whiped clean by senor Rena and Akiles. Just a matter of time before the CTNG are called GNTC/CDS to the 💯. Unfortunately, all of you still think CJNG have a strong home base.. these fools can't even hold down a plaza for themselves. The whole border is covered by CDS/CDP, CDN and Matamoros gulf, the latter (soon to be led by senor Mayo) since we took out the fools leader in a spectacular bait and switch. Muahh

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    1. Cartels vs. Cartulinas...
      Thanks Mike.

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    2. Michelle miller with his nonsense again? Lol

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  19. Just came from Morelia this morning. About 10 zancudos were at the airport ready to fly out.

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  20. CJNG is taking over

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  21. It is very true that if these cartels would work together, they would all be very rich . BUT, when you have leaders and they are also using drugs, and have a warped sense of things and how they are playing out. Paranoia or ego sets in. And BOOM....... they want to be the only ones on top .

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  22. Cjng still conquering

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  23. What became of El Americano??

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    1. 12:38 I hope el americano got kidnapped and is getting nailed somewhere by someone with viagra up his ass.

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    2. He got shot and killed outside a nightclub BB posted a story about it.

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  24. Chivis Marquitos who helped kidnap mayo's nieces just turnes himself in and is going to cooperate with american authorities. He used to work with CAF but later aligned with aquiles and rana. He started having beef with the chompas crew and eventually retired to sell bootleg in Mexico

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  25. Huge shoot out on main highway in Nuevo Lerado. I can not post vidio.

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  26. Is any of these shootings happening in Tepalcatepec, Michoacan? Just asking cuz I have family in that town.

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    1. Tepalcatepec o ly problem is they ran out of Beano,
      Send some beano carnal!

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  27. What happen to making money stop the fighting

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  28. Michoacanos are tooo hardcore for sinaloas. Sicario wise they will NEVER beat mencho, Sinaloa are not about that life, they rather party instead of training like soldiers and that's why they always get caught with their pants down lol

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