Wednesday, February 20, 2019

El Chapo Trial: Juror claims during trial, 5 jurors followed Vice's Trial coverage

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat


Juror says he also checked press trial coverage



“A lot of people were having difficulty thinking about him being in solitary confinement, because, well, you know, we're all human beings, people make mistakes, et cetera,” the juror said. A handful “talked about whether or not he was going to be in solitary confinement for the rest of his life, because if he was, they wouldn't feel comfortable finding him guilty.”…Chapo Juror

A juror has spoken out to Keegan Hamilton of Vice news and has made the stunning claim that at least 5 jurors, during the trial, followed news coverage including Keegan’s coverage. 

The juror also defied court instructions and kept his/her notes taken during trial




From the vice article:

“The juror requested anonymity “for obvious reasons” and declined to provide a real name, noting that the jurors didn’t even share their identities with one another. They did form friendships, though, and referred to one another by their numbers or used nicknames based on tastes and personalities. The cast included Crash, Pookie, Doc, Mountain Dew, Hennessy, Starbucks, Aruba, TJ, 666, FeFe, and Loco. “We were saying how we should have our own reality TV show, like ‘The Jurors on MTV’ or something like that,” the juror said. The juror reached out to VICE News via email a day after the guilty verdict came down, and we spoke for nearly two hours on a video chat the following day. The 12 jurors and six alternates were anonymous under orders from the judge, and cameras were strictly forbidden inside the courtroom. But they sat in open court for all 44 days of the trial, their faces plainly visible to Chapo and anyone from the press or public who chose to attend.” 
Read the article in full by using this hyperlink

Statement from VICE 
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I received a statement from the defense, see below.

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from Lichtman below

78 comments:

  1. I'm not that familiar with the US judicial system, so could this lead to the trial being annulled and another trial carried on? It does indeed sound unfair for the accused, but at the same time the overwhelming proof and how publicly known Chapo is I don't think it made much of a difference.

    I don't know what to think of it, if the case had been less prominent and of a less known individual it would feel like a clear disservice to justice, right? So up to what point can that be applied to this particular case?

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    1. Short answer is yes, probably. FRE allows for juror testimony about jurors going on independent investigations outside of deliberations to be used to impeach a verdict. Jurors are instructed not to read anything outside deliberations about the trial or the defendant for this very reason. Normally FRE doesn’t allow juror testimony to impeach a verdict, but this is one of the exceptions.

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    2. @ 2.30 PM
      Thank you for clarifying things, waste of time and money but what is fair is fair

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    3. Some people specialize in arresting, jailing, extraditing their associates and keeping them in prison incommunicado, in solitaire, and their trials classified, ask Rudy Giuliani why, some of his victims like John Gotti and Fat Tony Salerno would never come back to collect from their debtors, they got eaten by the Bigger Fish like El Chapo, eaten alive by his Arizona parnas like former DEA agent Arpaio and Co.

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  2. Great! Retrial in 3...2...1...

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  3. This country is full of morons.

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  4. Típico de los Norteamericanos en no hacer le caso a las reglas de sus cortes. Pero esos si, vamos a darles falsas ilusiones a todos esos seguidores inútiles con sus patadas de ahogados. Me caí que brincos dieran si soltaran al enano violador. Aceptan lo cabrones. Su cartel de cagada ya quedó en la ruina.
    - Sol Prendido

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    1. ¿en que te basas para decir que es una cosa típica? Ni siquiera se sabe si esto es cierto. Muchos medios comunicativos sacan noticias falsas para vender. A ver porque no pone el audio ya que obvio la cara no puede salir.

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    2. Norteamericanos? Cartel en la ruina? El enano violador?
      De cual fumaste hora campeon?

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    3. Sol prendido si no the gusta bete para it pais y critica tus cortes y tu y todos Los cartels son cagadas mitotero

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    4. Your Spanish is so elegantly written, Sol.

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    5. @4:13 pos de la que tumbó a King Kong! Precisamente por eso ando bien pilas manita. Jajaja!!! - Sol Prendido

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    6. Ese sol ya no esta bien despues de la guerra de el golfo persico quedo tocado.

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    7. Well, thank you there 6:23. Give yourself a good name to send you them periodic shoutouts. 👌
      - Sol Prendido

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  5. Ay ay. Poor Chapo. If anything they're being too nice to him. I wish his only reading material for the rest of his days consisted of letters from his victim's families. The ones who lost someone to a stray bullet. The journalist's wives and kids. The people that have till this day never found their loved ones. Poor Chapo? WTF happened to this blog?

    This pig never did anything to stop the violence. He could have spoken up and said his beef was with a select few. The only time he showed his face was when he's trying to get laid. Rot in hell Chapo!

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    1. I guess the people that testified against Chapo are good to you. Me they should never get to be free and enjoy life when they were murderes rapist drug runners they should had had the same fate as Chapo. And the treatment that Chapo has received violates rights he a criminal but they went over board violating human rights. If they do that imagine what they can do to poor regular people like us.

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    2. What human violations did he go through?

      I started following the trial late January so I’m unaware of anything that happened prior to that here or in MX.

      If he’s rights were being violated why didn’t his lawyers do something about it???

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    3. Well the big one is telling the defense that certain things are off limits that there is not giving him a fair trial

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    4. They were violating his rights before the trail and during @5:31 pay better attention next time bud

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    5. 6:34 yes I realized the lawyers couldn’t ask about DEA agents or Mexican politicians.

      Were they limited on who they could bring as a defense witness??

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    6. @2:24: Well said....Thank you Chaputo & Miado for letting Mexico rot in violence for your ambition of trying to take control of all Mexico....

      Chaputo may you deteriorate in the Feds till your last breath, and your kids get raped and butchered as you did to, too many innocent souls.

      Para El Señor del Sombrero, mas mejor conocido como El Miado, tu sigues estupido anciano culito!

      Attentemente: El De La Tia...

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    7. 3:38 El de la Tia lo presta o lo fia.

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    8. 1:36 Chole, I admire your enthusiasm for attacking lesser men like el enano violador, really
      but can't you find bigger targets?
      El Chapo and El Miado never started any international wars, for example, or destroyed whole countries in their quest for money from their own country from doing it under false pretenses or lame excuses, add to it their puppeteers nobody can name in court...

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  6. I mentioned this during the jury selection. It's human nature to be curious. Nobody should be surprised that this happened.

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  7. Hennessy,FeFe,666 and loco.....and these are the code names the people on JURY called eachother??? Pure comedy. Thats insane.

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    1. I was thinking that Hennessy is probably a fun person 😂😂😂

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    2. 3:29 hen easy could also be a live gallina,
      you never know when it comes to americans

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  8. Another chance at trial and now you know exactly what will be used agaisnt now you can form a great defense against those snitches...

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  9. Yeah I'm not totally sold that the "juror" is real. Probably just some obsessed wacko pretending. I don't know though people can be pretty damn stupid!

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    1. Silly Keegan Hamilton Vice editor was in the courtroom everyday and immmediately recognized the juror...jvice is credible, however the credibility f the jjuror remains to be seen.

      He/She took the trial notes which in every trial you are told to leave them on your jury box seat. only time you can take them is to the jury deliberation room. so the juror broke two rules and should be prosecuted.

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    2. remember the juror is saying he also checked trial coverage...he is ratting on himself so there is no doubt

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    3. Until a juror is prosecuted, I won’t believe this. Idc who Keegan is, I don’t trust anyone in the media 100% I need evidence.

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    4. you don't know keegan? he is the editor of the prestigious VICE

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    5. I (at 3:33) do believe vice is a credible news source, I love their shit. I just can't believe someone would incriminate themselves RIGHT after the trial! I also can't believe someone that immature sat on the jury the entire time. If this is real this juror definitely gets the donkey of the day award.


      L54 (so we can tell who's who ;))

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    6. Perfect way to invalidate a case if someone got to the jury member. Killing them or their family would be too obvious, but have them go and impinge the validity of the jury members to invalidate the verdict would be a nice touch. Especially since it would require the other jury members to come forward, publicly revealing themselves, in order to refute the accusation.

      Not saying that is the case, I've met some really dumb people that would do exactly what these folks are being accused of, but it is a possibility.

      KB

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    7. Keegan is a well informed journalist with Vice.sat through the whole trial (2 a.m. and on every day) He would not have done this interview unless he was 100pct positive that this person was part of the jury (questioned him before interview). This is an easy case of the government settling for 25years and a negotiate of non-solitary. The plan all along! We all know El Senor was done... part of the circus. This is a power play so he can have a life in Max where he can live life behind bars and make moves. Anyone,such as myself know that cell phone access and CO payoffs are very easy. Especially if you are a king and not a fish. City behind bars amigo. The government is not going back to trial.

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    8. Keegan is a very reliable editor, so I have no problem believing this!

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  10. Not a doubt Chapo was judged by a jury of his peers, as dense as him...

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  11. Any dumb ass could have judged el chapo.

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  12. Man, I seriously hope I never find myself in a position where my fate is to be decided by a jury of my “peers.” Putting your life in the hands of random goofs off the street is a gamble at best.

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    1. Murican justice at its best. That cat lady next door or even worst some false valor bean might put u in for life.

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  13. Something is off about this ... I can’t put my finger on it but no se no lo creo

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  14. El Senor gets a retry.

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  15. Sicario 006 is the juror.

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    1. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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    2. Is the j in Jaja silent? Like in jalapeno. I Jaja at a Latino friend he haha at me. Weird

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    3. J sounds as h in english

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    4. The "h" is MUTE in English, but sounds like a soft "j".
      Chivis wrote jaja, can't you read?

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  16. This cocksucking jurors shld be locked up and a asswhopping. Especially if they need another trial cus of their fuck up. More tax paying dollars down the drain. Chapo another reason to think your nothing more than a mingy dogs turd. You became friends with trevino in prison whom is anotjrr bigger dog turd. They shld just put all this scum together and spray the room with a saw.

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    1. Mexico needs Duterte.

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    2. 7:19 murdering genocidal drug addicted autocrat Rodrigo Duterte is only needed by his peers, for 'moral and billion dollar' support for their so called enterprises that need the Philippines clean for their own benefit

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  17. Can Vice legally deny to cooperate with the police?

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    1. There is no federally recognized privilege that allows reporters to keep their sources confidential, but the Supreme Court has found that “news gathering is not without First Amendment protections.”

      And states have their own laws. In this case however it is federal. There may be incarceration consequences if Keegan does not reveal source.

      In 1972, William Farr, a reporter for the Los Angeles Times, was sent to jail for 46 days for refusing to identify his confidential sources for an article he wrote about the Charles Manson murder trial.
      New York Times reporter Judith Miller was ordered to jail by U.S. District Judge Thomas F. Hogan for refusing to reveal her source in connection with a government investigation. Federal prosecutors allege that members of the Bush administration leaked the name of a CIA operative as an act of retribution after the operative's husband wrote an article criticizing the Bush administration. Prosecutors believe Miller may know the identity of the person who leaked the information.

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    2. Lol the irony. The government mad cuz some one done snitching.

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  18. Hopefully the trial gets annulled.

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  19. Let me get this straight. The Jurors felt sorry for him because he wasn't going to have "young girl sex" anymore in solitary confinement?

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  20. Nice job.. misfit jurors... fefe lmfao

    breaking juror rules will set el Chapo free.

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  21. IMO if proven then there will never be another trial--government will be forced to do what they refrained from before

    "let's make a deal"

    part of the deal will be no solitary confinement unless punitive from specific actions after confinement, and maybe 25 years. which would still be life most likely

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    1. I don’t think it’s real. They “argued” whether to declare him guilty or not?? Nah bro then why did everyone declare him guilty on every count? This person is trying to cause controversy and he or she will be indicted soon! Btw his lawyers said he wasn’t gonna cooperate with the US though 🧐

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    2. There is always the release option, right after you make it known all the people he snitched on. Slightly less effective than the .25c solution, but not as personally messy.

      KB

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    3. 11:22 forget about the people he "snitched on", they are not the ones desperately trying to keep la Chapa in solitaire confinement and incommunicado, seek in the muck and you shall find the truth, it worked for Vicente Zambada Niebla, calling the CIA for witnessing was not exactly snitching

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    4. 5:11 stfu lol so pointing at chapo in trial saying he was the boss of cds is not snitching? I dont want to hear how mayo is the real boss because everyone knows that's a lie.. cds are full of snitches now get over it clown

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    5. Pointing fingers at anybody at trial is not snitching if, as everybody knows, the cooperation helps you get free sooner,
      Chentillo pointed fingers at The CIA for gosshakes,
      and it got him a reduced sentence of course,
      --this will make him an American Citizen, miss clown...

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  22. How true is it that his alleged daughter Rosa (who keeps doing interviews) will pay his lawyer fees and that the family isn’t happy with the defense?

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  23. So I guess sicario 006 got hold of one of the jurors. Good job.

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  24. https://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/Feds-El-Chapo-s-sons-indicted-on-drug-conspiracy-13635167.php

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  25. I heard chapos celly is tekashi 69- is there any truth to this?? They could crack jokes about all the people they snitched on...i could see 69 trying to tell chapo how hes "more gangsta" than senor....that could be a tv show

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    1. 4:33 R Kelly, arrested in Chicago for statutory rape of minor aged girls, with evidence that could pit him away for many years.

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  26. Chapo's defence trying hard but everybody knows chapo is toast

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    1. El Chapo is not toast,
      he's just got "Smaller Godfathers" for the time being...

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  27. Do you all think the jury still makes judge cogan feel proud to be American. Lol

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    1. You’re taking this as legit. We don’t even know if it’s true lol

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