Monday, December 3, 2018

El Chapo Trial:coked out captain hallucinates ghosts and Coast Guard, sinks ship with 20 Tons of Cocaine

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat

Chupeta, leader Colombia's Norte del Valle cartel, was back on the stand today in the federal trial of El Chapo in New York City.

Chupeta recounts a story about a 20 Ton load of cocaine that seemed to have a curse on it.  

In the early 90s Chupeta testified that he would send cocaine laden fishing boats from the Colombian waters to a couple hundred miles off the coast of Mexico where they would be unloaded.  One specific load was a whopping 20 tons and  was to be received by Amado Carillo Fuentes aka "El Señor de Los Cielos" [Juárez Cartel]. 

To the point of reaching Mexico, everything went as expected...then it didn’t.  The captain of vessel began using the product, a lot of it, enough to begin hallucinating. He began seeing U.S. coast guard vessels….then ghosts.  Chupeta says it was then he sunk the boat “with 20k kilos of my cocaine". 

Estimated value: 400 million dollars of cocaine sank to the abyss with the boat.
Chupeta immediately caught a plane to Mexico to figure out what happened.  He traveled narco style, by using fake documents.  In Mexico the Federal Police, who were in the back pocket of the Sinaloa Cartel, greeted Chupeta at the airport.

Chupeta along with Amado traveled to Acapulco, close to where the cocaine went down with the boat.  [Still today Acapulco is used as a transport point for drugs off shore]

They decided to use a helicopter to search for the missing boat.  He has they found “nothing, nothing other than the sea.”

Chupeta describes this moment as “sad”, very sad”.  He says he became depressed knowing it was gone forever.  “I said I knew they were never going to find it.”

He also related a story about him falling asleep on the return trip back to Aca.  He fell asleep with his mouth open and Amado took a photograph of him, and later teased him about it.

Astonishing part of the story…For a year Amado was on the search of  the boat.  And amazingly, they located it!  He sent divers in to recover the drugs.

Only part of the cocaine was damaged by sea water.  Chupeta says “The Carrillo Fuentes asked me to send a chemist because some of the cocaine was damaged when getting wet.”

Chupeta says it was the last time he sent a Mexican captain on his shipments, from then on he only used Colombian captains.

Describing another shipping disaster at sea, he said a boat carrying a 15 ton load, headed to Chapo, was lost during a hurricane. 

The Hurricane: “The boat disappeared, the crew disappeared, everything disappeared."

Chupeta spoke to Chapo about the lost drugs due to the hurricane.  The drugs were on Chapo’s boat. The boat disappeared, and Chapo communicated with Chupeta’s lieutenants in Mexico so they could speak to Chupeta by phone to Colombia about this situation.

He said that Chapo told him there was a hurricane in the Pacific. “ The boat disappeared, the crew disappeared, everything disappeared." Chapo said, I am going to send one of your lieutenants with my people by plane and we are going to go out to search for it.  Nothing but pieces of wood was found.

Chupeta says he spoke to Chapo about how to resolve the situation of the 14 tons of lost cocaine.

He says Chapo said it was out of his control, it was a hurricane, but let’s agree on a price, “you should give it to me at cost.”  Cost being the price in Colombia plus delivery price to Mexico.

“I said yes, that the cost per kilo of cocaine was approximately $2,000, plus a thousand dollars for transportation by ship, so the cost per kilo of cocaine would be $3,000.”  $42 million.

Chapo agreed to the price but said since it has been an accident [natural disaster] he should be able to pay in installments. 

But Chapo didn’t pay him, it was in 1993 the witness said, and Chapo was arrested in Guatemala. 

He spoke to Arturo Guzman and Arturo Beltran Leyva about the debt. "They told me we are going to take over the debt, Arturo said, you know, my brother's debt, and we need you to send cocaine from Colombia so that we can pay you back in installments, everything continues the same way."

Arturo Guzman said; we need to work hard [meaning sell cocaine] because my brother is now in prison, and we are working to see how we can get him out of there. 


Chupeta says he was paid and that it took more than a year.

An interesting story of negotiation that averted a conflict, when Amado accepted a boat drug shipment.  Amado said he would “settle up with Chapo later.”

Arturo Guzman
Gordo, a Chapo lieutenant was furious that Chupeta had delivered a shipment  to Amado.  Apparently there had been no one to pick up the shipment.  Amado offered to unload it and “settle with Chapo later.”  Chupeta  said he didn’t anticipate a problem.

And Amado’s boat did go out to accept and unload the shipment, and later it was transported to Los Angeles  successfully by Carrillo Fuentes.   He said he paid Amado for the transport and paid Chapo nothing.

Next, all hell broke loose.  And Chapo’s lieutenant Gordo, who Chupeta said was a coke addict, became furious, gave the two Chupeta guys an assignment.  He then met them there and abducted them, taking them to a safe house.

Chupeta says he was in Juarez with Amado when the kidnapping occurred and was told about by Amado.

Chupeta was asked what he did after being informed.  He said “I told Amado Carrillo to please talk to Mr. Guzmán Loera to resolve the situation, since he [Amado] had told me that when he received the boat from me that he would speak to him and there was going to be no problem.

Chupeta says his men were released and when he spoke to the two men… “Well, they were angry at me because they hadn't wanted to go to that meeting with El Gordo, and they said Gordo was furious because I delivered my boat with the cocaine to Carrillo-Fuentes, and then Gordo was pointing a gun at their head and saying “I'm going to kill you”.

He later spoke to Chapo about the situation, he says Chapo told him that “ It had been a problem with El Gordo, that we should leave that behind, that not to lose faith, and that and keep going forward.
He said he never had a problem with Gordo again.

He spoke about Gordo’s addiction. "Well, he generally had a little container, a vial that was gold-plated, with diamonds, with a little spoon which was gold-plated, also with diamonds.  And many times, when I was speaking to him, he would take his little vial out and use cocaine.    He would constantly do this."

Chupeta said at times Sinaloa cartel would have to get the blessing from El Azul for certain things.  Asked why, Chupeta says “Because he was the Godfather” the godfather of drug traffickers.  The upmost respected, revered, person.  Asked where they would meet with El Azul, he answered “in prison”.  He was shown a photo and asked if he knew who it was.  He said “Azul”  [Juan José Esparragoza Moreno]


BLO
Chupeta says on a trip to Mexico to meet Chapo, that Chapo introduced him to the Beltran Levya Brothers. Chapo said they were his “primos” and “his people”.  He said he understood that to mean they were people who belonged to the Sinaloa Cartel.

He was asked if Chapo say what he wanted Chupeta to do with the BLO brothers.

He answered “to send them airplanes with cocaine, to help the out.” He met with Hector, Arturo and Alfredo Beltran Leyva.

He next said Chapo arranged a meeting between him, El Mayo Zambada in  a Mexico City hotel.  He said he already knew Mayo.  Mayo tells Chupeta “Well, I already separated from the Arrellano-Felix and now I'm with my compadre, Mr. Guzmán Loera. We have problems with the Arrellano-Felixes and we wanted to let you know that.”

Chupeta said at the same meeting Mayo said “you're sending airplanes to Guero Palma. He said, You can continue doing that, that's my people. And he was saying all these nice things about Guero Palma, saying that he was a very courageous man and that he was at the war with the Arrellano-Felix.  He took that to mean that Guero Palma belonged to The Sinaloa Cartel, that they worked together.

He was asked what he thought all this meant.  He said nothing really, it wasn’t like they were saying not to work with AFO Mayo just wanted Chupeta to know what is going on.


But his intuition was that there was going to be issues affecting his business so he decided to stop doing business with AFO.

Chupeta's Drug Business

In the afternoon Chupeta’s testimony was a looooong drawn out and apparently boring explanation of his evolving business of the late 90’s and into 2000s.  This line of testimony took over 2 ½ hours.  Explaining his ditching U.S. retail sales and solely sold wholesale to Mexicans. Some jurors appeared to be sleeping.

Which is a problem I had anticipated.  Whereas someone like me would be fascinated.  But most Americans would be confused, bored and tune it out,  too much info, endless testimony, and too many witnesses. Even with Chupeta,  fascinating for many reasons.  If they are nodding off with him….and he is only the third CW to testify, it's going to get worse. . [2006 chart click image to enlarge]


He spoke of the ledgers next. And although he kept accounting himself for all transactions, when he fled Colombia, it was done by others.  He said his lieutenants.  I assert it was his parents who took over the duty.  They were the money people.

Cross begins tomorrow.

Below is Agreement by Chupeta to forfeit 10B

67 comments:

  1. This is some great shit, man!

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  2. Chapo betrayed everyone.

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    1. Persons El Chapo is known to steal from or betray:

      Pedro Aviles
      Miguel Felix Gallardo
      Arellano Felix
      Carrillo Fuentes
      Beltran Leyva
      Damaso Lopez

      Hes the only one to have problems with all of these people yet the rest somehow never had wars with each other. Explain that to me.

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    2. Damaso was a power hungry traitor..Arturo was coked out of his mind..Ramon and Benjamin were out of control and started beef with Chapo first..Not sure how he betrayed Miguel and Pedro but thats not true either. Chapo did what he had to survive the brutal disgusting world of Mexican drug traffickers.

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    3. Damaso betrayed Chapo pedro aviles was betrayed by the Guadalajara cartel

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    4. Your a straight retard he never had problems with Pedro Avilés which btw say was his uncle or something like that and also no beef with Felix Gallardo beef started when Amado passed away Gallardo Caro got caught and they split the plazas beef started between Chapo and The Carillos due to Vicente carillo not accepting the fact that chapo was the chosen one to lead the federation the beef with the AFO started when they killed el Lobo and El Rayo de Sinaloa close operaters and close friends of el chapo with the Beltran Leyva’s things went down hill when Arturo started dealing with the Zetas and when mochomo got caught which led to Arturo blaming chapo even thou Alfredo told his brother That wasn’t the case and the idea that he turned him in exchange for Ivan’s Release is bs he was on his 3rd year of a 5 year sentence and lost it not least if you read Damasos testimony he says that he has great respect for chapo and admiration the problem was when chapo got caught and they had the fallout with los menores for the leadership...10

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    5. Take some hatorade already loosers. Nobody cares. Straight sound like vecinas chismosas y encidiosas.

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    6. True Chapo betrayed osama bin laden too and many more like 2pac,biggie and tekashi69 that is why he got arrested.

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    7. Pedro Aviles was a veteran trafficker by the time Chapo began his career. Pedro Aviles and Chapo had no connection besides knowing Don Rafa, Where do you get your info from

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    8. Scratch pedro aviles and Gallardo off that list dummy.

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    9. Mayo was at war guero Palma etc did you even read the article dummy

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    10. For he who said they had no connection .. Pedro Aviles Perez was cousin of Consuelo Loera Perez ... can you connect the dots from here or do I have to break it down further

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    11. El Chapo had no connection with Pedro Aviles? If by "no connection" you actually meant to say "Pedro Aviles was El Chapo's uncle" then yes, they had "no connection".

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    12. I have 2nd cousins I haven't met. Doesn't mean he sold him out. Mr. Burgos is Genesis chapter, Chapo was barely a grunt during this time.

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    13. El chapo stole money from Pedrito after he died. Money that belonged to pedritos family, according to his relatives

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    14. Are you seriously calling people a retard 145… Are you in touch with reality… Felix Gollard and RCQ, one Juan Matta Ballasteros and Don Fonseca were arrested for DEA Enrique Camarenos murder in 1985. Gallardo who was El Padrino at that time...He knew he was going down so they all sit down and meet...Gallardo, RCQ, Chapo, Amado etc. this meeting has been documented in numerous books and by numerous journalist. During the meeting he gave all of the principles in attendance a territory.

      amado died in the late 1990s… Camarena was murdered in 1985 and everybody was in jail that was associated with it by the late 80s… So check your timeline and read a Charles Bowden book or a Terrence Poppa book or something with actual facts—Retard.

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  3. Damn, couldn't trust Mexicans with his loads. Racist!

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    1. Look how much money was lost those 2 trips. I wouldn't put it past chapo or amado to make that whole story up and stealing the coke

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  4. Amado was sucio too
    And what if he used that wet cocaine in one of his deals and put the dedo on his buyers
    Asi el gobierno se cuelga una medalla
    Amado les entrega jale y la mata sige dando
    Me imagino que asi la aplico carrillo
    Todos son cagada en su propia forma

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  5. 10B? Forfeit 10 billion??? Dollars? I can't even picture myself even having 10 thousand dollars cash in hand...this is the stuff movies are made of. I would love to hear these stories how can jurors be nodding off??

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    1. I could barely picture myself with 10 dollars lol.

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    2. Get out and work tontos

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  6. The title says two tons I think it was 20 tons.just saying!!! great job keeping updates you are much appreciated
    -3030

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    1. Thank you kindly...long day

      Good night world...I am out of here, Good night world...I'm out of here, hasta manana .. 💤

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  7. Thanks Chivis. Took 1 year to repay 43 million seems slow considering how much they make.

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    1. yes. I went back and added many details, you may want to read again. there is so much it takes me forever. but the installment were part of the deal to benefit chapo because the hurricane and not something he had done neglectfully so he wanted installment as to not go into his regular cash flow.

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  8. Hijole! $10 Billion, I get all emo just having $100 in my wallet.
    Very interesting story, especially about confiscating criminals' assets.
    O.K. Sleep well Chivis. You are one tireless angel! Thanks for all you do.
    Mexico-Watcher

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  9. This is INCREDIBLE. I would love to be in the courtroom. I wonder what happened to the captain who sunk the boat??

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  10. Arellano Felix didnt need Norte Del Valle as supplier , AFO was already in cahoots with el Cartel de Cali then FARC

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    1. Plus afo was pushing heavy H from Thailand at the time.

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  11. Putting jurors to sleep?

    Looks like La Chupeta Fea seems to have accomplished yet another win in this case...

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  12. The days of million dollar comedy error are over. No more cantinflas. Like the ambiente general en el EUA it has gotten totally mean and ugly. So sad.

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  13. Wonder what happened to the Captain of the Vessel? Can anyone please clarify.

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    1. Well, like divers who are always down for the sea so was the captain on that fateful day. - Sol Prendido

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    2. He blew up his water wings and swam ashore.

      Canadian girl

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    3. He got a raise and got promoted. What do you think happens yo people who fk up in this business there is hardly second chances to mend your mistakes.

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  14. Chapo betrayed everyone. Now everyone ratting him out . Karma

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  15. 5 star coverage, excellent work. we need a good book and movie on this guy alone

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  16. Chapo lost tons, when addicts of Mexico handled the boats. That's why he only wanted Colombian captains.

    El Perin de Tampal.

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    1. Alright comandante perro

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    2. The sinaloas would sniff half the load before getting to the destination

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  17. what happened to the captain? lol

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    1. I'm sure that he found himself the victim of a most gruesome violation before he died...

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  18. I bet Chupeta regrets having plastic surgery to alter his appearance , he looked good before .
    Yet he’s spending life in prison so it doesn’t matter.

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    1. Life in that horrible looking face IS life in a entirely different prison anyway..The same way you and i see how ugly he has made himself,he himself knows it as well.
      And all for NOTHING because he still got caught..But at least his ugliness might scare away those thinking about making him their girlfriend.

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    2. No I think he is getting 25years

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  19. Hi Chivis and thanks again for the detailed coverage of one of the most important trials in US History. And thank you Eastern District of NY for having the guts to go to trial. The trial, as well as your coverage, is bringing out the inner workings of the international drug trafficking. It’s a free class on Narco-trafficking with historical accounts from a cast of players who devoted their lives to it. I have been monitoring daily since your inception and have watched you guys and gals become the best source of information for cartel nerds like us and cops from around the world. Thanks you so much!

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    1. Thank you so much Steve! BTW I just sent you an email. let me know. as for the trial. I think this chupeta is at least one movie and half dozen books! I ran out of energy yesterday so I am going to have to include some other tidbits today with the report on his cross.

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  20. This is amazing material. Thank you. More, please.

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  21. This is a really well done article.. is anyone keeping track of how these fines are paid??? And i know 42 million seems like not a huge amount to these guys- its surprising they couldnt pay that in full- maybe they could, they just chose to do it that way- and like someone else already said, im sure they pushed that contaminated coke off on someone

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    1. are you asking about the narco to narco money owed? I would think cash. depending on the currency...one million one hundred dollar bills can easily fit into a regular sized suitcase

      as for forfeiture or fine, those are paid in installments. but in the billions not sure. the installment are a trip. a fine is late or funny money like a bounced check

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    2. These guys are filthy rich no doubt about it. However the government exaggerates their wealth a bit. Remember they place a kilo of coke at 100,000 street value lmao that's nonsense so yeah it makes sense they wont/can't pay the debt in full. They still have to pay to keep the wheels greased otherwise they get busted. The public romanticizes this lifestyle but in reality if you lose a load you're most likely finished in the game. Unless you're a heavy trafficker like chapo or amado that have the credit to ask for a front to work off the debt. The colombians oblige because they want their money but they also know the Mexican capos have resources to keep working with them without skipping a beat. Mistakes/accidents happen in any business but in the drug game it can cost you you're career/life.

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  22. Also, im jealous of anyone who gets to witness this trial first hand- i cant believe people are falling asleep to this!! This trial has been unreal so far

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    1. People watch bullshit narco episodes religiously but gawk at the real thing.

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  23. ABout chupeta being arrested with his male body builder BF. Both NYT and Vice say it is true. however I was sent the arrest video -thank you jason- and only his wife is shown. he did however have a bf and a long term one wrote a book. in the trial today he was slying smiling when asked about his nickname meaning 'suck'

    my downloader isn't allowing me to dl the arrest video. it is good one. i will see if someone can do it for me

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    1. I thaught his nickname meant lollipop. Btw he look like them old cartoons Toxic Crusaders.

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    2. @4:17 You're right. Chupeta is Colombian slang for lollipop.

      Chivista.

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  24. No one pays those dum ass fines,i have buddys who did time in feds nevrr ever paid so ridiculous fines

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  25. DisDrugs company? Wtf? Was that a legit registered trademark ?

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  26. Why give detail
    Of Chapo lifestyle

    You doing life without parole
    Well maybe great way
    To escape from
    Cell to view barely outside
    World..plus chapo never going home
    Why not get mini vacation
    From Colorado supamax

    Chapo will not speak to another human being once he leave N enter Colorado
    Far far away in the tundra
    Wife will visit once
    Tell her get along in life
    No sense.23 hours in cell
    Mosts go crazy
    From not talking to anyone
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  27. so Chupetas take all the money from Escobar gotch u

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  28. so the valle cartel have billions of dollars

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  29. This all started in the 90s...the Rodriguez orejuelas were still active who received there cocaine...

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    1. Rodriguez where still shipping straight to Miami vía Cuba and the shipments to the west coast was vía Mexico Through Felix gallardo

      M”

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  30. Fascinating and awesome Chivis!

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  31. So the guy admits to killing over 150 people, some of them it was their whole he had killed. Most of those killed were killed because he suspected them of ratting then he rats himself. What a scumbag!

    Hypocrisy at its best.

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