Tuesday, November 6, 2018

Los Zetas Likely Behind Kidnapping of 100 Migrants

Translated by Yaqui for Borderland Beat from: HuffPostMx


Extra Material from Various Sources, incl: ElRazon

About 100 members of the migrant caravan were kidnapped and handed over to a cartel: Says Oaxaca State Ombudsman, Arturo Peimbart.

The delivery of about 100 undocumented persons should have been made near a Federal Police station in Puebla, according to the activist's story.

The migrant caravan fled the violence of gangs in Central America only to learn about the brutality of organized crime in Mexico . According to Arturo Peimbert , Oaxaca's ombudsman, about 100 undocumented immigrants - children included - did not arrive in Mexico City from Veracruz on Monday, because they were kidnapped by transporters and handed over to organized crime groups , presumably to Los Zetas group.

"We already have testimonies that several people escaped, and they declared that the drug traffickers handed them over to another group near the base of the Federal Police in Puebla," he said.



Peimbert, who accompanies the migrant caravan, assured that there are enough testimonies of how the disappeared migrants boarded fruit trucks, "of the big ones", that "strangely" were taken to Veracruz. "The migrants saw it with their own eyes. We had already seen fruit trucks approaching us, from "the big ones", and we warned them that no one should get on, but the fatigue and the despair of the people led many to climb on board".

The Oaxacan Ombudsman accused the Federal and Veracruz governments of the alleged disappearances.

In an interview with HuffPost Mexico , Arturo Peimbert, head of the Ombudsman for Human Rights of the People of Oaxaca, and who accompanies the migrant caravan since he crossed the border and went into Mexico, said that - according to testimonies gathered by him and members of the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights in Mexico - the kidnapping occurred in the state of Puebla.

According to his account, sources close to him confided that the transport companies of states that are on the route of the migrant caravan have received "strong pressure" from the federal government so that they do not serve the undocumented.

They are even forced to refuse to give the service, even if they want to pay for it, putting at risk the lives of more than 2,000 minors. And that could have originated the massive kidnapping.

"This has forced us to walk and cross through Veracruz, from Sayula to Tierra Blanca and from Tierra Blanca to Córdoba, it is an absolute irresponsibility of the government, that area that is "known the largest grave in the country" , where hundreds of people have disappeared for the crime. The prohibition to use trucks, endorsed by the Governor of Veracruz, Miguel Ángel Yunes Linares , forces us to cross through this violent triangle.

"There we began to see that fruit trucks were coming to us , of those that carry 16 to 23 tons of food, they offered us transport, charging up to 150 pesos per person, we started to document plates to images of the drivers, alert the migrants that they did not do it , but in despair people took it. All I could do was try to open the boxes of the trucks, which were locked with padlocks. "


"The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights in Mexico has received testimonies that several of these people escaped from the city of Puebla and the testimonies they have shared with me are that several were handed over to organized crime near the city base of the Federal Police in Puebla, " said the human rights defender.

For the two suspicious trucks that took the migrants, and for the number of people who are asking for their absent relatives, is that the ombudsman Arturo Peimbert estimates that the victims of kidnapping would be about 100.

Arturo Peimbert, former general coordinator Mediation and Agreement for Development in the state government, intuited that behind this crime would be the Los Zetas cartel, whose presence in the area is notorious, even during the migrant caravan: "there are people in the villages who have informed Los Zetas how the caravan is moving, and they watch their movements. "

The "violent triangle" that the activist is talking about is a territory in dispute between the Los Zetas cartels and the Jalisco Nueva Generacion cartel , which in addition to fighting control of drug sales, extortion, fuel theft and trafficking in persons, they also fight for the million dollar industry of kidnapping migrants who travel to the United States.

"This could be a crime for the governor of Veracruz, it is an eventual fraud, a criminal omission, and when you know that a group of vulnerable people are at risk of disappearing, your obligation is to create an efficient mechanism to prevent that from happening. a crime ... ", lamented the ombudsman Arturo Peimbert. "Everything is wrong, everything is very bad ..."

The migrant caravan fled the violence of gangs in Central America only to learn about the brutality of organized crime in Mexico . According to Arturo Peimbert , Oaxaca's ombudsman, about 100 undocumented immigrants - children included - did not arrive in Mexico City from Veracruz on Monday, because they were kidnapped by transporters and handed over to organized crime groups , presumably to Los Zetas group. .

In an interview with HuffPost Mexico , Arturo Peimbert, head of the Ombudsman for Human Rights of the People of Oaxaca, and who accompanies the migrant caravan since he crossed the border and went into Mexico, said that - according to testimonies gathered by him and members of the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights in Mexico - the kidnapping occurred in the state of Puebla.

According to his account, sources close to him confided that the transport companies of states that are on the route of the migrant caravan have received "strong pressure" from the federal government so that they do not serve the undocumented.

They are even forced to refuse to give the service, even if they want to pay for it, putting at risk the lives of more than 2 thousand minors. And that would have originated the massive kidnapping.

"This has forced us to walk and cross through Veracruz, from Sayula to Tierra Blanca and from Tierra Blanca to Córdoba, it is an absolute irresponsibility of the government, that area is the largest grave in the country , where hundreds of people have disappeared for the crime. The prohibition to use trucks, endorsed by the governor of Veracruz, Miguel Ángel Yunes Linares , forces us to cross through this violent triangle.

"There we began to see that fruit trucks were coming to us , of those that carry 16 to 23 tons of food, they offered us transport, charging up to 150 pesos per person, we started to document plates to images of the drivers, alert the migrants that they did not do it , but in despair people took it in. All I could do was try to open the boxes of the trucks, which were locked with padlocks. "

"The Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights in Mexico has received testimonies that several of these people escaped from the city of Puebla and the testimonies they have shared with me are that several were handed over to organized crime near the city. base of the Federal Police in Puebla, "said the human rights defender.

For the two suspicious trucks that took the migrants, and for the number of people who are asking for their absent relatives, is that the ombudsman Arturo Peimbert estimates that the victims of kidnapping would be about 100.

Arturo Peimbert, former general coordinator Mediation and Agreement for Development in the state government, intuited that behind this crime would be the Los Zetas cartel, whose presence in the area is notorious, even during the migrant caravan: "there are people in the villages who  have informed the Zetas how the caravan is moving, that they watch their steps. "

The "violent triangle" that the activist is talking about is a territory in dispute between the Los Zetas cartels and the Jalisco Nueva Generacion cartel , which in addition to fighting control of drug sales, extortion, fuel theft and trafficking in persons, they also fight for the million dollar industry of kidnapping migrants who travel to the United States.

"This could be a crime for the governor of Veracruz, it is an eventual fraud, a criminal omission, and when you know that a group of vulnerable people are at risk of disappearing, your obligation is to create an efficient mechanism to prevent that from happening. a crime ... ", lamented the ombudsman Arturo Peimbert. "Everything is wrong, everything is confused, everything is very bad ........"

The history of multi-kidnapping, up to the time of publication of this text, has not been confirmed officially by the authorities of Puebla or Veracruz. Likewise, defenders of migrants and caravan monitors, like Brother Filiberto Velázquez , assured that they have not heard, so far, of a massive kidnapping of migrants that coincide with the hours and places of the Oaxaca ombudsman's story.


In his desire to continue with his the journey that aims to reach the United States,   at least 100 migrants, climbed to a unit that seemed "unreliable",  because according to witnesses,  they would travel in an inhuman way since they would have them under lock with little or no ventilation.

The "trip" started from Ciudad La Isla in Veracruz and since they addressed this unit, nothing is known about them. 

Arturo Peimbert Calvo, head of the National Human Rights Commission of Oaxaca, denounced the disappearance of the 100 people who belong to the migrant caravan. Since last Saturday, nothing is known of their whereabouts.

"Until we know of their whereabouts they continue as missing persons.  We were insisting that they not go up and denouncing it, but the absence of the State,  of the surveillance,  of security ,  of everything, is what has made them disappear today, " he said.

It is known that the migrants traveled in two trucks with plates 183-EC-3, and another one with plates KY-88-765 of the State of Mexico . Peimbert Calvo said that they had accompanied the migrant caravan since they arrived in Oaxaca through Chiapas and upon leaving Veracruz. 

Everything became more chaotic, when the governor of Veracruz , Migule Ángel Yunes, offered free transportation to move the migrants to  Mexico City,  the same weekend that the 100 people disappeared. 

Minutes after making his offer to transport the migrants, he said that it was not the time to take them to Mexico City due to the suspension of the water service that was affecting more than 7 million people. The water cut was due to the pipes receiving maintenance and therefore, there was no water service.

After Gov Yunes canceled his proposal, there was a violent struggle between women and men to enter the trailer boxes. They fought their income, as if their lives depended on that. They settled themselves as best they could, there was no room for anything or anyone else. They were locked in a padlock, with extreme heat that soon began to have consequences.

140 comments:

  1. I knew this was going to go down 🤦‍♂️- LA Guy

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    1. They have to get their money some way somehow scumbags Los Zetas

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  2. Where’s that genius clown that was talking about the Zetas not being around anymore? Go on and and tell us all how this is even remotely possible. And for those of you that think these caravans aren’t getting through. Guess what, they’re not gonna stop marching forward. No more than those drugs all addicts wait for in feverish anticipation. - Sol Prendido

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    1. When people say that the Zetas don't exist, they mean the unified structure that existed in the past no longer exist. The Zetas have fractured into Cartel del Noreste, Zetas Vieja Escuela, CDZ, etc. Similar to how the Beltran Leyva Organization doesn't really exist as a national unified structure but the components (Los Rojos in Guerrero, Cartel de Guasave in Sinaloa, Beltranes in Monterey, etc) still exist.

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    2. The Zetas broke into different factions but they all still put up the Z. They have been intercepting immigrants from caravans for a long time and play a huge role in human smuggling. People have down played the Zetas because there super stars Z40, Omar, and el lazca fell off but an organization bringing in billions a year won't fall. Menchos group has stole the headlines because his group has grown into a bigger threat but the Z's are still there.

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  3. Dang if these people think maras are bad well they will find out that they aint got crap on the mexican cartels,that mexico is not any better than central america,cartels make maras look like crawling babies.Many of those inmigrants will end up dead in pieces,working for a cartel...

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  4. Too bad all 7000 of them weren't kidnapped. I'm so sick of people crossing our borders illegally. My mother waited years to came to Canada from another country BUT did it legally. What the f*** do you people bring to the United States or Canada? I get it your country is horrificly filled with crime but I don't hear any of you people standing up saying hey I'm a seamstress, or hey I'm a mechanic from Guatemala and I can contribute to Canada or I can contribute to the USA. No all you f****** people want to do is free load and jump in front of people who also come from countries of War and waited years but did it legally and civilly.

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    1. Two days ago my assistant told me she was very angry seeing the caravans. She explained three of her siblings and herself waited years to come legally. they are naturalized and their last sib applied for visa with their sponsorship. he was waiting 7 years and plenty of money paid out, when he died in an accident. he died waiting for that visa. so i understand the anger. But i can't wish them the fate of being taken by the Zetas.

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    2. @ 6:11 Please educate yourself before you open your mouth again.Very evil thing for you to say.
      -CDS nutthugger

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    3. They're coming to apply for Asylum which is legal

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    4. I just want to know why they come in like that and then wave their country of origin’s flag when they flee the place they have so much pride for without standing up to the corruption but over here they act all hard

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    5. 6:11 I agree with you 100℅. People from the same central American countries have been illegally immigrating to the states since before I was born for the same problems they claim today. They and there countries need to focus their energy on ending those problems and making their countries suitable. The US doesn't even have enough money to take care of their own citizens. US is going to go bankrupt if we keep being Latin America's babysitter and mom. Just being real.

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    6. I think no one wishes the abduction of anyone. Much less the suffering of anyone whether in this country or any other.
      However, despite the sensitivity of immigration policies. All countries have their immigration laws which must be respected. Moreover, handled with human dignity.
      This caravan should not be considered as an invasion as stated by some. Rather, a political movement for awareness of the turmoil and uncertainty for many in other countries. Countries that have been neglected by allies (nations) to combat violence and corruption.

      I would like to look at this moment as a potential political stepping stone to what truly needs to be done. Reffernce to all (migrants and nations)to stand up to those oppressions and inequality of the world many live in.

      Nevertheless, the ingenuity of criminal organizations to make money shouldn't be surprising to anyone.
      You have many who prefer illicit behavior rather respectful behavior to sustain oneself.

      Picking up a book and embracing education for some is not in their ability to do so.


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    7. In Canada or the US, if you don't work you don't eat.

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    8. 11:42 I agree. People have been fleeing those countries to come to the states for more than a decade claiming the same problems. It's time that there countries get there act together and take action instead of the US having to raise every family in the world. US is going bankrupt and cannot even take care of its own citizens. Politicians are too scared to say this because they want the latino vote and dont want to be labeled a racist.

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    9. Chivis, I can't even under why you bothered to respond to this imbecile. But maybe you were responding to us your readers, and that I'm ok with. :)

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    10. These people found a loophole in a flawed system. This is like showing up to someone's multi-million dollar home, claiming insanity and sitting back and enjoying the wealthy lifestyle while a psychologist proves your insanity claim.

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    11. If you've ever spent time in Southern California or Southern Texas or Arizona, the idea that Latino immigrants are coming to free load is patently ridiculous. Do you ever look at actual statistics? Middle-aged White Americans are the ones who consume the most welfare benefits, health benefits, unemployment benefits, etc. and who also cost the country immensely (and destabilize Latin American countries) with their massive opioid crisis. This isn't an indictment of all White people -- the same isn't true of Whites in the Northeast or the West, for example, but Whites in states like West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Ohio are the biggest welfare consumers in America, by far. Most Latinos are working 2 or 3 jobs, not freeloading.

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    12. @813 you are cluless and stupid.In canada
      Borderjumpers are housed in 4 star hotels with everything paid, $$$allownace, clothing, free phones, free medical and dental.
      Most folks are disgusted with the dysfunction of the gvt! Many of the border jumpers are from Muslim countries and SA. They fly into america and jump the border into Canada. They heard trump is tough while canada is weak!
      Fact!

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    13. The wind blows where it wills. - Sol Prendido

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    14. What people fail to understand is that the USA was founded by immigrants and to not allow other immigrants into the country based off of false facts, greed, racism, or irrational fear of someone of color is just plain stupid.

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    15. 6:11 PM What you have to realize is that these mighrants from El Salvador, Gautemala, Honduras, are coming from really violent areas and time IS NOT on their side.

      Their relatives are getting killed everyday, do you think that they have 5 years to wait to go to a safer location???

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    16. @11:58.
      You as smart as a pretzel 🥨. Since you wanna talk facts. If trump is harder on immigration and Canada is weak like you say. How could they be able to fly into USA( flying in would be legally) and then sneak into Canada? How stupid are you? No, Mr. Facts. Since it’s so easy to fly into Canada they fly straight to Canada legally for 400$. Then some sneak into America from the north. You must be Canadian girls baby brother. Facts

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    17. @11:29
      Interesting comment.
      However, despite America's immigrant population and its origins. A country was born and therefore like many who set foot establish laws to keep it in check.
      Rome and other great civilizations also have their policies in place.

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  5. ↑↑ The rant about too bad all 7000 migrants not getting kidnapped is from yours truly,

    Canadian girl

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    1. You're a mechanic Canadian girl?

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    2. Maybe 7000 of them should stand up to the criminals in their country, like they stood up against the Mexican border police when they crossed in Chiapas. In our world today, you do not just get up and go into another country and say "i wanna live here". If that is allowed, then I want to move to the Maldives and set up in an island home and say "i wanna live here". Its unfortunate they have to live in a country with poverty, but that shouldn't be a problem that other countries have to solve.

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    3. So your mom waited 7 years huh? Is that what she told you? She ove stayed her visa like thousands of ilegals do. Never thought you was a racist canadien girl. Next time i see any of your posts thats how you be judged as.

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    4. What country your mother came from ?

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    5. Glad to see y’alls real colors. Even you chivis. You allow certain post to make it through even though they are filled with racism and disrespect for some more activity for your blog. Stupid ass shit. Canadian girl can suck it too. Arriba Mexico y la gente. ALV con sus mapas

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    6. canadian girl has never posted anything racist. How short sighted you are not to realize hers is a hurtful personal story. Racism? how quickly people pull the race card instead of having conversation. I hate the comment about all of them should be kidnapped. But the story of cutting into line is one I heard many times. remember I am Mexican.

      I have great compassion for the migrants. Since the 72 were slaughtered in Tamps I created a second foundation that works with Casa Migrantes throughout Mexico. I provide transportation, clothing, medical, supplies, phone cards etc. and offer train and bus tickets home. for the shelters i provide beds, heaters, washer/dryers, freezers roofs etc. I began in Piedras Negras, then saltillo with Bishop José Raúl Vera, then Acuna and so forth.

      I am doing something. What are you doing except pulling the race card? That gets us nowhere.

      Immigration is an emotional, complicated issue. put your big boy/girl pants on.

      I believe we need to double the amount we allow in legally each year. I believe we need a temporary work visa, like the bracero program of yesterday. We need immigrants. especially now with the economy and employment so good.

      When i spoke about my girl marie, she is costa rican. she and her sisters cleaned houses and worked fields in CR since they were 10-11 to pay for their education. that private education gave them a step up to a great higher education. and then a transfer to UT. They went home and applied for U.S. visa. it wasn't easy. and yes they are not happy that their brother died before getting his waiting 7 years. the legal route.

      What i see with the caravans is very different. The organizers have crated this issue. many of the migrants are unruly, look at the violence to tear down barriers and attacks on mexican police. and the filth they are leaving behind. as for asylum. they are supposed to go to the first country and apply. that would be Mexico or south. but let's be clear. these are economic migrants. not true asylum candidates. I don't blame them. Perhaps I would do the same. for my family. But i sure would not bring my small child. there are disappearances, rapes and robberies.

      It is a mess. Immigration legislation must be created. Helping these countries must be done at greater level and more structured. they will stay home if they have possibilities.

      It is truly a sad and never ending issue.

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    7. Chivis, i agree with you but I feel the honest truth that people don't want to accept is that people have been coming illegally to the US for an extremely long time from Central and South America claiming the same problems they do today. I feel the energy, resources and political attention should go towards confronting the governments of these countries and forcing them to get their act together. The US has always been a very accepting country but it's going to be bankrupt very soon if this pattern continues. Politicians in the US are too scared to touch the issue because they don't want to be seen as racist or cold hearted.

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    8. Chivis, I respectfully disagree with you and Canadian girl about your view of line jumping. There's a difference. If you want to come legally then wait and don't complain. Others come illegally and are *illegal* still once they get here. Yea, life is not easy. Take your pick.

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    9. Chivis: "When you speak, people listen." As always, you are an authoritative educator of confused situations. I , for one, appreciate your efforts to enlighten us (as objectively as possible) very much.

      Mi dos centavos: I am currently reading Oscar Martinez' book "A History of Violence: Living and dying in Central America" (Versa, NY, 2016).

      Given the "CA caravan" situation,this is book is helpful in understanding "part" of what motivates these Central Americans to emigrate to the USA. I say "part" because I recognize that there are actually complexes of motives involved when it comes to human behavior. It is simplistic to think otherwise.

      That said, let me add some things I learned from Martinez' book:
      1. Vast areas of Central America ((Guatemala (Peten near Beliz included), El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicaragua.)) have been terribly transformed and destabilized over the last 40 years by powerful families linked to corrupt political, judicial, military, and criminal entities. With respect to Mexico, does this sound familiar? The ordinary citizens of all these regions have been variously victimized and rendered virtually powerless to protect themselves against these combined powerful entities.
      2. African Palm Oil and drug, people smuggling routs. Chapter 4 covers how vast areas of Guatemala especially El Peten are rife with abuses of the people by multinational corporations involved in African palm oil production and criminal entities such as Los ZETAS in people and narco enterprises smuggling. Combined, all this greed and exploitation people are forced out of their native lands into cities already rife with problems caused by multinational corporations, powerful families, gangs MS-13 and Barrio 18, , narco-cartels, and (of course) corrupt governmental entities including judges and cops.

      3. From Martinez's book , I now see the so-called Central American Caravan as just the outwardly visible symptom of various concurrent painful diseases. Kind of like if you have asthma, migraines, ulcers, arthritis, cataracts, and tapeworms combined at the same time. What do you do?

      4. Where are the medicines for cures and relief?
      For what ails Central America, of course, there is
      (A) Religion, GOD and prayers. This works for some and I don't knock it at all. The problem is, as history amply shows, not everyone agrees on matters of religion and GOD and problems of different natures follow theocracies.

      (B) Political Revolution with major reforms with honest governmental and social entities free of criminal influences? No, I don't give this a snowball's chance in Hell mostly because too many powerful people "profit" from things as they are.

      (C) Let the CA emigrants into the USA to relieve symptoms? This won't work because the original diseases that cause the symptoms remain.... making more patients. Also, the new immigrants will cause new problems in the USA and serve a magnets for more "caravans."

      (D) Education? Not likely to help because "education" easily becomes indoctrination according to the needs of powerful entities that benefit from this. Also, "true" education take time and may actually produce unforeseen consequences worse than the original problems.

      (E) Send economic aid and political resources to CA? This will NOT work because the "official" recipients will deviously work to swallow the aid and subvert the purposes of the "help." The intended recipients will likely get scraps as has happened so many time before.

      (F). Don't Mess with it take care of yourself? Yes. I strongly feel that the people of all nations must solve their own problems without outside interventions if at all possible and then only if stringent humanitarian criteria are met to avoid corruption and misuse are met and verified.

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    10. I was born a brat! Surely naive to believe I LITERALLY want the Zs kidnapping all 7k so to those who lamely call me racist learn some reading comprehension. And, Chivis need not defend herself to anyone as her reputation speaks for itself. Now run along you crybabies...

      Canadian girl

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    11. Canadian girl your a tough cookie. I really like your post and input.

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    12. Nicely done Mexico-watcher....I was hoping we would get a good exchange of thoughts.

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    13. Chivas I agree with most of what you say. Except for the bracero program. Remember Ceasar Chavez, Huerta?, And the famous doctor from Texas they We're all against the program on the grounds that it was unfair competition for low wage earners, especially field workers. For a long time I was for the bracero program untill I watched the PBS special on Mexican Americans.

      Also I would like to add, I see a lot of racism coming from Mexicans It ok for Mexicans to cross illigaly into the U.S. but not Central Americans?

      Here in Silicon Valley I have lost so much work in construction to undocumented immigrants. We have guys here driving 26 GVW trucks owning bobcat tractors not paying taxes, no contractors licence. This is the reality of giving 1,000,000 undocumented immigrants drivers licences in California.

      Remember I do not get to work in Mexico, with out an FM3. Mexican immagration is very tough.

      Most these folks want to get California because if it Sanctuary status.

      Before I get called s racist by some of the other bloggers. I met my wife in Mexico in 1995. It took six years to get her in the U.S. Remember I have niece's and Nephews that call me Tio.

      The immigration issue is very complicated. Let's face it the rich use it to suppress wages for the working poor.

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    14. Of course i remember Cesar. And my father worked the field of central valley from the age of 10 to 17.

      The Bracero program stopped in 1962 or so. I have read the entire thick Bracero Program government data and tons of info. I ill-spoke by saying 'like the bracero program.' Although it wasn't horrible ..if you read it in its entirety and proven to have many excellent structure elements most of which would be illogical to us today.

      what I meant was the temp visa portion of the program. Would you agee a temp visa would be a helpful pragmatic element of an immigration overhaul? I would go further and have an umbrella program "Temporary Work Visa" that would categorize jobs and have caps on most. with rigid restrictions including no path to citizenship under these programs. or it will self destruct and abused like amnesty.

      I am against sanctuary anything.

      Mexico has some of the most stringent immigration laws in the world. They do use a point system that is difficult to work within. My husband is not U.S. citizen or Mexican or N america. We are looking at ocean front property in Mexico. for residential visa. we had to prove WE had money, and health insurance etc etc. even with linage

      mexico is def hypocritical on immigration. and very racist against dark skin.

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    15. If you are AMERICAN and are losing your job to any non english speaKing ilegal immigrant , well i got news for you. which bring me to another subject, which is it ? ilegals are lazy and are here to free load , OR ARE THEY HARD WORKERS and are taking dumb lazy "americans" jobs? make up your mind. before they take more than your job, read somewhere they are marrying with anglos more than ever. btw Canadá take a seat please nobody cares what u lames think u are non existant.

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    16. TO THE CANADIAN GIRL IMPERSONATOR:
      try all you want i have a way of knowing if you are CG or not. Of course she knows I am Mexican. She is a long time follower.

      How stupid are you not to realize her comments not about race. it is about fairness. it would not matter if the migrant came from any country, and they do BTW get in from Mexico. it is about law abiders and law breakers with the latter waiting years legally and spend thousands of dollars to see others breaking the law to enter.

      And lets not forget those who enter illegally pay thousands to get it illegally. because they do not want to wait years.

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  6. All this for the american dream sad we cant even buy a house in caligornia anymore its nutts not even with 2 incomes sad really how yall feel ? Chime in

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  7. Glad this got published in English!

    Thanks Yaqui

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    1. De Nada, you are welcome. I hope we get some news soon as to what really has happened to them. Army turning them over to Zetas is not confirmed yet.
      There will be plenty more that don’t make it too. Do not forget this terrible situation is also going on in many parts of the world.

      big Muchas Gracias to Chivis for her thoughtful and enlightening comment and all her generous and hard work.

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    2. thanks Yaqui!!!!! this subject is so difficult to approach, I was happy you posted this story....

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  8. Looks like Zetas are back to their old tactics of forcing people to join their ranks. Zetas are the Nazis of the cartels. Ruthless, heartless and just plain unwanted by society. They are scum worse than the infamous MS13.
    When will the people within Zetas territory that feed their ranks understand that this cartel really really bites to say the least???

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    1. 7:13 bud could off been cjng that are more dirty violent pigs than Zs...remember theres a carrel war going on in those states between Zs vs cjng as the main players so lets not assume it was 1 or the other but thing for sure many of these people will end up dead or in their ranks

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  9. Sad they most likely are dead if the mugrozoz got them. They are hated by everyone. Can not understand why they arent labeled as human rights violators and dealt with.

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    1. 7:21 don't forget that many Zs were/are from guatemala that came to mexico n killed lots if innocent people...

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  10. Thx for this report to yaqui ans sorry for beeing OT but i thought water cut was due to a lack of water and not due to pipe maintenance?
    Keep on your great Work on BB.

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  11. Since there's nothing the local police can do, they called in the Cartels, Hopefully this sends a message to the others to go home, or end up working on a cartel farm, or being a mule or a Sicario sent on death missions

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    1. As a Canadian I say the same back to you, you sound American obviously.

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    2. Easy to do with our Prime Minister

      Canadian girl

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    3. Your prime minister is cool as shit. I see not everyone in Canada is worth the life.

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    4. Canadian girl -your comments are the best. I love it. I wish I had a friend like you here in Seattle. Most people here are very judgmental of your not a bleeding heart liberal.

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    5. @12:53.
      With two words that you read. “Fuck Canada” that sounds American does it? Was it the accent? Wow Canadian Hurl you brought your whole IQ forbidden family with you.

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  13. maybe was members of mara salvatrucha ms13 they are enemies

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  14. I think we are an accepting nation, but imagine how many more caravans will come if we let them in. Usually I am ok with someone risking thier lives to get here...... Someone willing to die just to do manual hard labor is worth having (most of the time). But we can't be taking thousands at a time.

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    1. We take that and more every month; they come in in smaller groups and not with the lame stream media making a political issue out of it(which backfired btw).

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    2. People need to respect laws, bottom line.
      Or fix their country!

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  15. Can someone give me a serious answer on who’s sending these people to Mexico? Are they trying to destabilize Mexico? Remember when a bunch of Haitians somehow ended up in Mexico? Now these people? Also I was watching Univision and saw how Cubans and some Africans are also joining the caravan. I knew the cartels were going to get involved because sending u.s soldiers to the border impacts their money and drugs.

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    1. I agree with you so much 9:49. I live in Tijuana and remember when the Hatians arrived. They clogged up the border and made it hassle. Even the ones that stayed in Tijuana are using resources and shelters geared towards Mexican nationals who have been deported and need assistance to re adjust.

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    2. What better way to join a movement where the world is watching. In the end, it will be a tireless and an effortless journey especially for their feet.
      Curious to see if Mexico will be willing to accept their stay knowing America will not budge?
      I'm sure the cartels will find work for them.

      Laws need to be respected!

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    3. Bingo! Border closing/stricter security. Now you're fucking with the chakas money. You knowntheybdont like that. However the 100 kidnapped by Zetas either gonna be used as canning fodder frontline sicario dummies or sex trade for the women unfortunately.

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    4. Hunger is one

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    5. Hunger, you say? Naw, I don't think so. Hungry people do NOT look healthy, vigorous and even obese.
      Many are driven north to the great Disneyland, USA, from the the magnetic stories they hear from their kin and friends in the USA. Many may also be driven to the USA from fears of violence.
      But hunger and deprivation does NOT seem to be a driving factor to my mind.
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  16. These 'rights groups' are beyond delusional, did they expect Mexico to have the Federal Police accompany them throughout the trip? After they broke down the gate, and entered the Mexican state with violence.

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  17. To all folks who are pro-caravan...
    Would you be ok with people who are poorer the you, go into your homes without your permission, take your possesions, live rent free, make home for themselves in your home without asking your permission, live on your dime and ask you to give them money once a month etc. Would you be ok with that or would you call the police if you came home one day and found sqatters inside your home, your castle?

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    1. Out of the south comes the storm. And the wind blows where it wishes...
      - Sol Prendido

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    2. Jorge Ramos reporter for Univision, who is pro caravan, he was asked by a reporter, if he would sponsor 7 migrants from the caravan, and live with him in his mansion in Miami. He dodged the same question twice, acting like he did not understand.

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    3. You’re a MF moron. Whose house are they invading? They are coming to America seeking asylum. Which is perfectly legal. You racist have a problem with people doing it the illegal way and apparently, the legal way. Clown.

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    4. In my home? No. But I'd be fine with them being in my community, and would be fine with my tax dollars going to help them support themselves. I wouldn't support anyone being in my home, even my fellow, law-abiding, legalized citizens, so that seems like a stupid question to me. No one is putting them up in anyone's home, the question is whether they can enter the country.

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    5. That's the hypocrisy of the bleeding hearts.

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    6. These guys are invading demanding insulting disrespecting destroying etc which is NOT the way to ask for help....

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    7. I hate that lloron cabron de jorge ramos

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  18. Elections are over they don't need it no more

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  19. It’s easy to wish bad things like death on these people but most of you wouldn’t know what it feels like to go through what they go through. I don’t support the “invading USA” but shiiit I’m pretty sure they have nothing to lose. We take the little things for granted everyday here in America and on day they might get taken away from us.

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  20. Los Zetas still exist? CDN or Old School? Btw maybe it was CJNG

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    1. Who you think controls Monterrey, Coahuila?
      Cjng are done without nanny pri.

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  21. I was under the impression that the drug cartels wouldn't want anything to do with these migrants moving through the country considering its become worldwide news. I assumed it would bring too much attention and they would lay low. But it doesn't sound like all the facts are in yet.

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    1. Attention to who? USA? They don't care if those poor migrants get massacred. Mexico been kiiling each other since Calderon era. Where you been?

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    2. Zetas isnt a drug cartel..stealing and kidnapping as you can see is their amin source of income.

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    3. Hell no! These migrants disrupt the drugs moving north. Look at Trump's reaction- troops on the border. Bad for business.

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    4. exactly 8:41! to the tune of 800 per month go "missing" and never seen again.

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  22. Old school zetas or CDN? Which one?

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    1. Old School controls those areas.

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    2. who is top guy in each of the zeta factions ?

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  23. Glad to see the goverment still having use for los zetas lol

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    1. Going into mexico the way they did is not called inmigrant is called invading...knocking down fences insulting people attacking agents, demanding for stuff n i hope they get treated as how they behave...dont they know that their gangs aint got crap on cartels

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  24. I hope the caravans stop. It is not fair for all the people waiting in line trying to get there citizenship

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  25. How many more caravans are the US supposed to take before they go bankrupt. They have been showing up in droves since I was a child. Isn't it time the governments of Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras etc get their act together and own their own problems.

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    1. As many as it takes. When the u.s stops getting into shit that aint their problem. You know what it is dont be acting naive.

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    2. 3:59 the only naive one is you. All experts on drug trafficking in these countries have stated that the governments of these central American countries move the drugs themselves and blame it on gangs and poverty. You would have to be a complete moron to think that if the US gives asylum to every person from central America things will just magically work out. You remind me of those chicanos from California and Texas that no matter how whitewashed they are or how much they conform to the US they walk around with a chip on their shoulder towards anyone thats not like them. Educate yourself and grow up.

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    3. 10:13 your so right man. These people should be entitled to live a normal life in their countries. If they don't get rid of there corrupt governments then what's gonna change

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    4. 10:13 it's been happening for too long. Even Colombia used to be a disaster back in the day and now it is very affluent and attracting a lot of investors. These Central American countries need to step up and hold their leaders responsible

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  26. I mentioned this in another post when they first crossed over! It was inevitable this was gonna happen! Whatever cartel controls the city that they are passing through will get his hands on some of them, offering a better life to join them or I’m sure if they refuse then hold them for randsom! As they keep making there way up it will almost certain happen again and again to who ever controls that region!! It’s sad but a reality!

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  27. LOL a few thousand and yall going apesheet!
    How about the millions of muslims that flooded into europe after America ripped the middle east apart!
    Any apologies for that sheet-show?? Ir was demos and repub that did it so yall to blame!

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    1. Hellllllllooooooo ! What we have done to these countries is downright insanely hideous, using them for our Banana Republics.

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    2. Truuuuueeeeee

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    3. 12:02, Everyone with intelligence is going 'apesheet' as you stated because we don't understand why people have been illegally immigrating here for decades it seems like claiming the same problems they do today. If you really care or anyone cares about immigration and asylum problems you would be confronting the leaders and governments of the countries they have been fleeing from, to get there act together. By US citizens accepting these people we are not addressing the problems, we are just enabling. This trend is has been going on so long it's disturbing. Anytime someone puts their foot down on this they are called racist or cold hearted. US can't raise every family in central and south america.

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  28. For decades the USA has meddled in the affairs of Central America, arming and training regimes that brutalized the population. Now people are fleeing from the mess that the USA helped to create. Aid money to those countries should be funneled to improve the economy and not to the military or police for a war on drugs that is unwinnable. I would sponsor some one to live in my home, and the only people I know that take government aid are US citizens by birthright, whom are too lazy to work hard like their immigrant parents did, and now feel entitled. We are all human beings and helping one another is a divine mandate. Stop the hate!!!

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    1. Thank you and Amen to that ! Doesn’t anyone know or read history. Iran- Contra, only 35 yrs ago. US has messed around in all these countries forever, adding to the destabilization for the almighty corporate dollar, using that old evil “commie” threat , not to mention South America and blowing the Middle East to smitherenes........here is your BLOWBACK.

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    2. 12:13 It's not about hate. If you believe what you just said then isn't it common sense that We should be putting the spotlight and concern on the governments of these countries they are fleeing from?? If the US just granted everyone asylum do you think that all of central americas problems would disappear??

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  29. Once they cross onto American soil the going rate for new identity’s is currently at $120. You might be able to haggle the price down to $80 if you come in groups of 2 or more. These are black market prices as of November 2018. Once they start working they will eventually all get their ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) in order to properly assimilate into society. Every forger along the border awaits their arrival. - Sol Prendido

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  30. Racist canadians who would of thought.

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    1. If your referring to Canadian girl
      You are ignorant!@ 4:23

      I bet you think CNN is the god box that tells the all knowing truth. Learn to think for yourself

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  31. Wish the z kidnap any canuck on sight.

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  32. I paid $7000 for my wife get neutralize and dont find it fair that these people charging in here but at the same time I also dont want them in the hands of zetas, just want them to go back.

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    1. Hey Big Nose...you did mean naturalized...right? 👀

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    2. $7000? Oh boy!!! Any junkie would do it for a dime bag...just sayin’ lol

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    3. Big nose George meant nueralize the lady, she was coming home late.

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  33. I travel to this area all the time. Never had any problems. The locals are very nice.

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  34. Us Americans owe it to the zetas. Filthy disrespectful group of people who expect the United States to bend over backwards for them because of the conditions of their excuse of a country. Come here legally and come here with anticipation of becoming an American not waving your useless flag. Donald Trump is correct when he calls it an invasion. These people have no respect at all and I've witnessed it with Honduras immigrants in my hometown which is located very close to border that touches mexicali.

    ~F3

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  35. Back pedaling chivis, once u xpose your true colors. Evil comments get posted and you allow them wishing dead of central americans who would of thought.

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    1. Go post on CNN you bleeding heart liberal. The word racist no longer holds weight. It is so over used that now when I hear the word racist I just think bleeding heart whinny millennial liberal.

      Grow the fuck up and quit listening
      to your delusional professor that lives in a Antifa bubble.

      If she is so racist why does she donate her time to share news that can change lives?

      Your comment is so brainwashed. Why troll someone that is making a difference when you ate just a keyboard warrior?



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    2. Lol nerves struck, now the Word racist holds no weight. Wish any of you say that racist shit here in compton, you will find out real quick otherwise.

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  36. Wish they post the videos of those kidnapped. Especially of those innocent minors while being executed.

    Canadian Girl

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    1. Canadian Girl are you being trolled?
      I have a feeling that this is an imposter Canadian Girl stirring up the pot.

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    2. @3:49 ...u silly plonker...if pretending to be me at least spell properly THEY'D not they.

      Canadian girl

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    3. @ 11:05 Canadian Girl- I knew it was not you. I find it odd that you are being trolled for just expressing an opinion. Are you in Vancouver? If so how it is possible for the illegal immigrants to afford housing there? Seattle is very expensive but I have heard that Vancouver cost even more. If that is true does that mean your government is just hanging out funds to those that broke the law and refused to follow immigration protocol?

      I'm jealous lol
      Seattle Amigo

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  37. Los zetas were probably paid off to perform this kidnapping by the higher ups---politicians. All of these caravans are going to be marked now if they keep spouting off they are heading to the US. They all got bills hidden in there duffel bags

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  38. If it wasnt for the US, the whole world would be in anarchy. They send the troops to quell violence. Its the safest place to live. Everyone want to come here. The US will one day rule the entire world.

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    1. 8:05 bud its a give n take situation for the US..ur all brain washed, they send troops to die n kill for the benefits of a few...tell us which one of those countries US has deployed armed forces is the safest place to live....Maybe USA should focus first n more in within its borders where crazy americans are shooting up schools churches bars etc taking innocents lifes so please get ur head out ur ass...

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    2. The whole world is anarchy u.s included asmart ass.

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    3. Hahaha the USA is not even 300 years old. You americans are so deluded.

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  39. I'm a California resident with knowledge of the ins and outs of this big immigration issue. I feel for these folks in the caravan and to a certain extent I agree that we as a nation (USA) are complicit in creating the "issues" in their respective countries, causing them to flee. However, when will these central América countries step up to the plate and start taking care of their own? We (USA) and Mexico need to start putting pressure on these countries to help the people, North America has funnelled millions of dollars to help the economies of those countries but the people still suffer

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    1. You are correct on USA funneling money to Central America, unfortunately the currupted staffers of the Latin government steal the money, thereby leaving little for the public.

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  40. To the reader wondering why his/her comment is not posted and then goes on a trump rant. we refrain from comments about politics. we have rec a number of schumer pelosi and trump comments. pro and con. that will most likely get you off board. unless the post is directly about them they are off limits. religious comments about a specific religion will do the same

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    1. Chivis- I am more of a right leaning guy but respectful of all cultures. I'm the American in Obregon that has wrote in a few times. I think you do a great job trying to keep the comments neutral, but the longer I follow this blog all the people that troll you really annoy me.

      You deserve a 6 figure salary for your journalism but if I understand correctly you and the BB team do this for free. PLEASE Stop trolling Chivis. She is donating her time. if you don't like what she writes step up and submit an article. If you trolls continue to do this what if she decided to stop writing? And stop trolling Canadian Girl she has a right to express her views.

      She is risking not just time and money to report to use but also safety. I know immigration is a hot topic but

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    2. Thank you so very much for the kind words. The willies and trollies i post are for a conversation starter or a "Have at it". Discussion is good and i understand it can get heated because of emotions, but id we can have it stay mostly respectful maybe it can be teaching. Worse thing in the world is to have talking heads be our teachers. We all need to take responsibility and research on our own.

      Canadian Girl does have a right and she was not being racist. I know that is it were truck loads of white central europeans she would feel the same. It was about having lawful order and no rewarding those deciding to ignoring our laws.

      BTW how is Obregon? I asked my prima how Guaymas is and she says "BAD!! but it is just the narcos fighting each other"
      Paz....

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    3. They have been heating things up here and its just not as safe to go out at night anymore.
      Keep up the good work

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  41. Whats funny is some ignorant broad trying to get some atention tried to make it like they going going to canada. Ask anybody out of the 7000 about Canadá and they will say what the f*** . So all u cat lady canadians get a life and stay out of AMERICAN problems. While all this caravan stuff is posted americans are getting killed left and right. Just yestarday 12 got kill here in L.A. When BB posts ANYTHING concernido can'tnada feel free to speak your mind, mean while sit yo insignificant ass down and just read. *spelling check*

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