Tuesday, November 13, 2018

El Chapo's defense: "Mayo Zambada is the real leader of Sinaloa Cartel"

Chivis Martinez Borderland Beat

Emma enters Brooklyn Courthouse
After two jurors were dismissed today and their replacements selected, opening statements began in the afternoon in the trial of Joaquín El Chapo Guzmán.

The U.S. prosecutors went first with their opening statement.  They gave an overview of the charges that brought El Chapo to trial including his global drug trafficking operation, and multiple murder conspiracies. 

Missing were murder charges that the government quietly dropped over the summer.

When it was the turn of the defense, we were able to get a peek into the defense plan of El Chapo and their reply to the charges of the U.S. and it is one we’ve heard before…..that it is El Mayo Zambada that is the real leader of the Sinaloa Cartel, and El Chapo was a figurehead. 

A few months ago, in July, I wrote an article,  [link here for article]   About a document that was supposed to be redacted, but with a couple of moves one could see under the black out. 
The document, which is a letter of reply, essentially named 9 pieces of evidence of 41 in the hands of the government.  The government disclosed as having this evidence, without producing additional context, with respect to the potential exculpatory evidence, indicating El Chapo was not the top leader of the Sinaloa Cartel, and never had been. This is one of the charges against him.   Only a couple of months before trial, the defense were made aware that such evidence existed.

It appears this, at least in part, is what El Chapo is planning to use as a defense.

On a side note, not long after this happened, I was doing research on CJNG when I stumbled across a 2007 article in Proceso. The article was about Los Cuinis and CJNG, but within the article was this paragraph:

[It is about the Valencias and the Milenio cartel out of Michoacán. They had an alliance with the Sinaloa Cartel.]
Guzman Loera was only an emblematic figure whose function, aside from still taking part in drug trafficking, is the distraction of authorities. According to data from the PGR and some journalistic articles, El Chapo Guzman has decided to leave his hiding spots and has started to frequent restaurants and public places: a little over a year ago the Assistant Attorney General for Special Investigations and Organized Crime (SIEDO) detected him downtown in a city in the state of Durango.
It will be very interesting to see what information the government had regarding this.  Speculation is that it may have come from one or more cooperative witnesses.

The government added 4 cooperative witnesses a couple of weeks ago, which should be a total between 12 and 14. 

After cutting his deal with the government last week, El Mayo’s son is expected to be one of those witnesses, which could be confusing to the jury, after hearing it is Vincente Zambada, son of “the real leader” who is testifying against the man who is accused of being the leader.

The defense hit on the cooperative witnesses during opening statements.  They assured the jury that these witnesses could not be trusted, as they were all criminals who made deals in exchange for testimony.

That could work in the case of most witnesses; an exception may be the Flores twins, Margarito and Pedro.  The twins provided the government a mountain of evidence, videos, and documents, recorded phone conversations of them and four dozen narcos, with El Chapo taking center stage. 

And we can’t forget the Sean Penn El Chapo video.  In the video El Chapo discusses and admits his drug trafficking. However, previously, the prosecution said they had no plans of using it as evidence and no plans on calling Penn as a witness.


If convicted on most any of the 17 charges, the sentence would amount to a life sentence.  For example, the Kingpin Statute, which means operating a continuing organized criminal enterprise, would be a mandatory life sentence. 

111 comments:

  1. Ya empezaron a echar se la bolita entre ellos. Y según estos narcotraficantes Sinaloenses son hombres bravos. - Sol Prendido

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    1. Tu cállate sol pinche envidioso

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    2. Dios me quite la vida si miento. Pero a nadie le e tenido envidia en este mundo. Tampoco e tenido que bajar me al nivel de mamadas que anduvo haciendo este pobre ignorante. Ya que se la dan de muy chiles pos donde está el pinche rescate cabrones? - Sol Prendido

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  2. Mayo is a smart mofo. High power with little announcement. Has evaded . Outlasted others of his caliber.

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    1. He will be caught after all this drama unfolds trust me

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    2. He has evaded apprehension only by means of support from government officials.

      Money is king!

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    3. 7:54,6:45, i also have noticed and i think im correct, that Mayos people are at war with others in different plazas but they dont announce much.Chapo was at war with Z and would sign cartulinas with beheaded "enemies". Too much attention drawn to oneself.

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    4. Mayo will never be caught, trust me!! He a smart guy and who’s more into the business than killing ppl. If mayo is captured, there will be massive killings in Mexico cuz eveyone would wanna make a statement to be the next leader. Plus, he keeps low profile and actually I’ve never seen a resent pic of him

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  3. Chivis have you seen this? Interesting interview with ex DEA agent where speaks about El Chapo involvement in Kiki Camarena death.
    https://m.aristeguinoticias.com/1304/mexico/el-chapo-tiene-que-ver-con-la-muerte-de-kiki-camarena-hector-berrellez/

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    1. yes. crazy! i heard he killed Tupac and Biggie Smalls as well

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    2. Wait.. What? Chivis are you saying that chapo killed Tupac and Biggie?

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    3. Here we go again , sinaloas pointing fingers, but frankly it’s a good move on behalf of El Chapo, MZ is probably sick and maybe even dying, and good luck catching him. Only thing is , those ray bastards Flores twins, if true that they have all that info, then maybe Chapo is done . I have a gut feeling that their testimonies will change or something will happen to those ratas. Either way, ARRIBA MICHOACÁN VALES! Where we lie low, stay humble and do work.
      -McPickle

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    4. What will be the response from the chapitos once V.Z.N testifies against el chapo???or will mayo strike first

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    5. I demand and article posted here on bb. Am too lazy to look for it on the interwebs

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    6. Chivita you need a like button really bad

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    7. Hey chivis heres a link if you might be interested.
      https://www.laprensa.hn/sucesos/1233227-410/cae-narcoavioneta-en-choloma-policía-dice-que-se-accidentó

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    8. I was being facetious 11:44

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    9. I heard he killed the pink panther too.

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    10. @6:46 for what? This is a comment section for an established independent news source. Not social media. Having likes is irrelevant...
      Go stroke your ego elsewhere!

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    11. 6:53 i finally got the link to work. it would take me to the post but layered i with ads that could not be removed. who did the plane/coke belong to? sinaloa? or cjng?

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    12. Lol the Pink Panther is right here carnal Atte: The BadaBing. Chivis that might have been the most humor I have ever seen from you. since 2010. good one

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  4. CDS fanboys there you have it. Chapo snitched!!!
    Fanboys will still be in denial.

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  5. Free El Chapito but why were there so many people trying to get into the Court house House @chivis are you going to the big apple

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    1. I would love to! One of us may be going, i will know more in a a week...

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  6. Chapo always was a nobody, Mencho slaped him by kidnapping his son

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    1. Always? He was top of the game for over 10 years and if Mencho did kidnapped his kids why did he wait until Chapo was caged up and released them as well. Not a fan

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    2. Mencho is stronger than snitchola

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    3. Lol this guys, why did the kids got released then? Sit yo ass in a corner for the rest of the day.

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    4. 8:56 if chapo was a nobody why didnt mencho do anything when chapo was out....???pussie cat menso

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    5. Ok cheerleader

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    6. Mencho got lots of $$$$$for their ramson. Mencho and chapo were working together, they had their own people. If chapo was mencho's boss he wouldn't have any plazas. Chapo and mencho had a disagreement in colima before chapo got arrested. Chapo tried to muscle in cjng territory and mencho wasn't having it. Colima is still cjng even though cds sends their sicarios on a suicide mission every couple months.

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  7. Wonder what Vincent has to say about his father?

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    1. He gave up information to try and have him arrested

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  8. Something tells me Chivis works for the government. How could she get info that is “sealed” and in a case that no one really has access to? I bet she’s an informant

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    1. Oh pleeeeeze Willie, too dangerous and not enough pay

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  9. If that's the case, than why would the Sinaloa Cartel invest its resources to pull off a James Bond type movie stunt to spring him out of max security...Chapo is a the logistics and innovative genius AKA El Rapido behind CDS when it comes to moving dope. His organization's business model of efficiency and effectiveness when moving product has been copied by other criminal organizations. No other organization in the world can duplicate its global reach and sphere of influence. Its charismatic leaders were and are living legends in a global stage of criminality.

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    1. Cjng already surpassed them. Sorry to bust your bubble and make you bring down your pompoms

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    2. You heard El rapido in a song and thing it’s for Chapo lol.
      El rapido is el nini/chicken little or 09

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    3. 100% facts dont usually comment but u got it right there wouldent be no sinaloa cartel the way we see it today without chapo most of the guys in comments no absolutely nothing

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    4. Their would be no Federation without either Chapo or Mayo o amigos que andan por ay como Nachito y Juanito y sus primitos..

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    5. @1:09
      actually the real "Rapido" is joaquin guzman. he was given the name back in the 90's when he first came up with the idea of trafficking thru tunnels. he had the ability to cross multi tons thru his tunnels in no time. hence his nickname "el rapido". el nini also goes by el rapido but hes not.the original
      -M21

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  10. So this Confirms that Chapo is in Fact snitching?

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    1. snitch or be snitched on

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    2. @9:42 Are you the "Chapo snitched" guy? We've missed you

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    3. I guess I am! Nevertheless He's Defense is pointing the Finger at Mayo. Let me ask You a question now? How do you think this will sit with Mayo and Chapos Sons now???


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  11. El Mayo Zambada #1

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  12. So does the defense even remotely suggest that Chapo should be released simply because of this???
    Being number 1 or number 2 still does not make him less of a drug dealer.
    Quite frankly I, think he was always number 2 - shit. Not number one

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    1. If Chapo was smart, all bribes and payoffs were recorded. Evidence of all government officials for his continuation of his criminal empire.

      We all know one cannot run a criminal organization without the knowledge and kickbacks to government agencies from all sides.
      Despite Mexico's law of apprehension and extradition of its own government officials. The truth is there for all to see how its run.

      Note; Doubt that any such evidence /aggreements pertaining US officials would be admitted as evidence by US government. Deniability by all governments is a standard protocol.

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    2. Yeah I think him and el Mayo always ran it together. Alot of my friends from mexico keep saying El Mayo was the leader and this was back in 2013

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    3. I agree E42....the gov would never let that in to evidence. We all know Shorty had high level help in several countries . No way they would let "proof" in.

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  13. El Mayo is much older than Chapo - he would never listen or take orders to a younger fella.

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  14. Aqui el que Manda es el del sombrero! El 5to mes.

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  15. Crybaby till the end. What an embarassment to sinaloa. Their destiny is to die before walking on US soil.

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    1. Those narcos are long gone my friend. Arturo Beltrán and Alfredo Beltrán are the last ones that held that title down.

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  16. Did Serafin Zambada go back to Mexico or stay in the U.S.?

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  17. I taught the public wasnt gonna be able to know what was going on in the court.

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  18. Regardless of this scumbags defense the mass murdering cockroach has a dog cage waiting for him at ADX where he will rot and die alone and insane. Once there we will no longer hear of this POS until his death.

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    1. You’re government has done more damage then Chapo ever has.

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  19. Lol this is so stupid. People who have follow drug cartel news since the 90s know that the Sinaloa or Pacific Cartel was an alliance of several leaders. Chapo Guzman. Mayo Zambada. Beltran Leyva Bros and Nacho Coronel and many other smaller leaders. Chapo was a leader of his own group and did what he wanted. He was also the face of the Sinaloa Cartel. No more no less.

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    1. @2:28 Finally an actual intellectual comment

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  20. Emma should forget about Chapo. She should find a new husband and have lots of babies. Don't feel sorry for Chapo, he HAD a good life.

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    1. @ 4:03
      If true what people are saying about her “running things” for him she will be the next one in jail or dead. Remember her dad was also in the business and some of her family members are in prison too. I don’t remember if her dad was extradited to the U.S or if he’s still In Mexico but if he’s In the U.S and gets put on the stand then that’s some shit.

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  21. Chapo was the head of the cartel and Mayo didn't mind it because he knows with the title comes unwanted attention. Chapo claiming Mayo was top is just him trying to take some heat off him

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  22. The best that the defense can hope for is to try to keep chapo from going to a supermax prison. But regarding his past prison escapes, he doesn't stand a chance. He will be surrounded by majestic mountains, but he will never see them.

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  23. My respect to los patrones El Sr Mayo ,El Sr Chapo y El Sr Azul.
    Animo Patron! Remember your training the documentary "Escape from Alcatraz" we taught during week 6 of Gente Nueva Special Forces training .

    SICARIO 006

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  24. Sean penn and Kate get a pass and don’t have to testify, dam all this circus needs to out do the OJ trial would be those two... penn must be cia to get out of testifying...
    GC

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    1. They get a pass because they were never privy to any inner workings of CDS.

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    2. Tru but Sean penn has no reason to lie, everyone else will get less jail time if they give up info on El Chapo.

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  25. boss is RCQ
    mayo 2nd

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    1. Week six...never forget!!...😂

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  27. Lame defense, for under the law, all parties to an offense(s) are equally guilty. If I get you to agree to be a getaway driver in a bank robbery, then you are just as guilty of bank robbery as the one who entered the bank with the gun. All things being equal, the gunman did the more aggravating act by doing the stickup, and thus should get more punishment than say the getaway driver or lookout, but it doesn't make the other parties to the offense any less guilty. This is a damage control defense with a challenge to convince the jury that what offenses Mayo actually ordered, controlled, or committed were not reasonably foreseeable by Chapo, and so, he can't be guilty of the more serious allegations.

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  28. We all know hes getting life in prison so i was chapo i would tell the DA to go 🖕 urself, theyll also try to squeeze money out of him...only thing chapo has to lose is his kids if he snitches mayo most likely will try to get at them....

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    1. He needs to worry about his kids on both fronts. The gringos are more of a threat to his family than el mayo...way more of a threat. So he needs to play both bagpipes on both sides. He will lose i predict one of his sons getting merked by this years end.

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  29. Haha.... Meanwhile, the flow of contraband doesn't stop and the violence is worse than ever. Long live the Drug War !! Everyone BSing about this trial, yet we are still getting high and the mexicans are still killing their own people. What is it all for??

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    1. Agree the chapo trial is nothing but a show, like the war on drugs.

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  30. Is mayo the one who slapped mencho and spit on all michoacanos ? And after chapos son got set free , the same guy who is funding El cholo in cjng home turf and mencho fears to do anything even tho he knows mayo is the mastermind or is that other mayo can some one explain?

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    1. No vice versa mencho is the one spiting in mayos and all he chinloas faces by taking his plzas and making them switch teams lol i love the hate chinolas and their crash dummies have for mencho and other mexican states lol para todos sale el sol bola de alucins envidiosos por eso sinaloa esta como esta porque ni entre familia se saben respetar ayi estan los jijos del chapo matandose con el tio pura corientadas teneran dinero pero no los ase finos lo que teien de feria lo tiene de conriente amas no poder.

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    2. I will be happy to explain young grasshopper. Mencho kidnapped the little chapo brats and got lots of $$ and plazas. Mencho punked mayo and it's confirmed in la paz baja California, when he was asking mencho for a truce but mencho kept on killing his crew. Half of mayo's crew saw the weak capo reaction that they jumped ship to work for mencho. Mayo is so scared of cjng that he funds millions to marro, el cholo and even tried in michoacan but failed with the autodefenza. Mencho just goes around taking CDS plazas with little trouble. All 3 stories are here in Borderland beat and are all FACTS, not speculation like the cds groupies tall tales. Just saying..

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    3. 9:17 y 11:18 le ponen machin a la merca de el mencho. Para muestra lean sus comentarios se escuchan como cristaleros que tienen dias sin dormir ni comer maruchan y nomas estan disvariando. Niños alejense de este tipo de gentes y cuentenselo a quien mas confiansa le tengan.

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    4. 6:11 guele a kemado compa no se awuite pk ya nadie quiere krer en sus fanatisas de los alucinolas jaja jente coriente y cobarde matanose entre familia no tienen morales y mas los de culiacan son capas de matar asu prpoia madre por un cinto feragamo chafa

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    5. 9:13 you sound so jealous of Sinaloa and everything is good between Guano and Los menores you don’t know what really goes on you just here in B.B. worrying about Sinaloa you must be a michoacano

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    6. A de ser el focaso 9:13 que te pones para medio funcionar bien. Puro alucin barato que te quema el cerebro, ya portese bien compa que le cuesta estar de envidioso nunca trai nada bueno.

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    7. I Como esta michoacan no los templarios mataban y extorcionaban a su propia gente michoacana por eso se alsaron las autodefensas bola de traidores y envidiosos hypocritas tan peor y quieren hablar de Sinaloa que no al último entre las autodefensas se estaban matan y como esta michioacan orita echo un desmade las autodefensas resultaron ser del cjng ay esto chilangos de que honor van a poder hablar michoacanos jajaja y puro borderland beat

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    8. Michoacano = chilango barato, arriba monterrey i señor

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  31. Theres no deal good enough for a 60+ year old man,a 15-20 sentence is likely a life sentence,if we know so do they..chapos a smart guy hes not leaving his kids unprotected ..

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    1. Not very smart. Unless he would have kept his mouth shut. Hell get life either way.

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  32. This is weird, I don’t trust chapo and I don’t trust the U.S

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    1. But you sure trust the currupted police of Mexico.

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  33. Hi Chivis. Thanks for the “Blow by blow” coverage. I remember preparing for trial in cases like this where all your witnesses are crooks. The defense will always attack their credibility and accuse the witness of making a deal with the gov’t in exchange for their testimony.

    As a part of the prosecution team, each witness has to debrief fully, leaving nothing out, as the defense may bring something out that the witness never told the prosecution and damage credibility.

    It will be very interesting to hear the prosecution describe their witnesses and even more so when each witness takes the stand.

    “There are no swans in the cesspool.”

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    1. Hey Steve! Thanks for weighing in. In this case most of the 14 or so should be discounted. and a few are much more vile than chapo. BUT at least four have solid supporting evidence that will be impossible for the defense to circumvent...

      300k documents alone...

      I always have been under the belief that prosecutors know and rely on an ignorant public when presenting these CW at trial.
      Paz
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    2. Hola Steve D!
      The Defense mentioned something like "Who decided to make Chapo the scapegoat for the murder, the government or the AFO".

      Also bringing up the Cardinal assassination.

      Do you think one of the brothers will show up on the list of witnesses?

      Thanks
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    3. @4:55 nope. The AF brothers just want to finish their time in the Feds and be back with the family. Benjamin proved to have strict codes of silence and only talked about what the government already knew.

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  34. @ 8:03 Lol true that, like locking up a king is gonna do anything for the border, or Mexico. As we speak there are metric ton shipments being unloaded. Man we love our trials lol but we love our drugs more. We can all argue about chapo or stupid mencho or anyone else. The point is, it will never stop

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  35. I've been saying Mayo is the real boss amd Chapo is more of a figurehead for about 5yrs now...

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    1. Turk...why didnt you warm us??? The rest of us idiots had no idea!

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  36. What nobody knows is dat it ain't Emma but actually chivis going in to the courthouse to investigate for B.B.

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  37. CDS has been filled with US govt assets (snitches). Vicentillo is on paper as a snitch, now Chapo.

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  38. Hi Mica. The Arellano’s murdered the Cardinal in their fervor to kill Chapo. Chapo was the target, but I truly believe it was that event that brought Chapo into the limelight. It’s got to be a huge challenge to keep all of the witnesses away from each other as some are enemies. This is gonna be an entertaining trial.

    Chapo is a POS and anyone (Emma) associated with him too. He killed thousands of people. I know our case and cast of cooperators had lots to say about Chapo but I really don’t think the prosecution needs them. Everybody captured or turning themselves in in the last 10 years should be sufficient. Have fun and have a slice of that NY pizza for me.

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  39. its a different ball game in the big leagues

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  40. So this will be the end of CDS? Chapos kids will have to go to war with Mayo after his family of snitches help to put away Chapo. Then mayo will in the end kill chapos kids and chapos moronic brother will cause even more problems. At some point the government will get mayo since he will be forced to move around more during a "war" with people who knows him and his regular hiding places. Mencho will for sure be killed with the help of America. Then what? No other major cartel left. BLO are nobodies. zetas and cdg are not what they used to be.

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    1. I wouldn’t say the “End” for CDS. Lots of families are involved in the organization that no one knows about and keep to them selfs they also have a massive amount of influence and are very well structured internationally & I do see a blood bath between los chapos and los mayos if they don’t come to an understanding quickly of some sort about what’s going on in court but only time will tell. In every organization someone or a group of people become a “Dropout,” “Snitch” & “Rat” etc. look at one of the oldest syndicates, Sicilian Mafia aka Cosa Nostra, a criminal syndicate filled with countless government informants and the organization is still working and operating tel this very day. Am not comparing CDS to the Cosa Nostra but CDS is a well structured international organization. Like in the California prison system the two main organizations are the eMe and NF they too have “Dropouts” and informants. It’s a sad reality.

      -the guy who knows nothing

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    2. I wouldn’t say BLO is finished they have a strong influence as well, and operate in countless parts of the world, Tito Beltran is still in school, I’m pretty sure when he gets out he’ll run things smoother. Not to mention Alfredo and Hector are still alive.

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    3. 8:54 uou are so right, there is will be snitches all the time.

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