Monday, July 2, 2018

Mexico's New President's agenda includes amnesty for drug growers, kingpins

op-ed by Chivis Martinez for Borderland Beat



Trump speaks with AMLO:


Trump reveals this morning he spoke to AMLO saying "we had a good conversation about a half hour long”.  They spoke about border security, NAFTA, trade and the possibility of a separate trade treaty between Mexico and United States.  Trump said he had a conversation with AMLO during one of his previous campaigns, at which time Trump told him, “someday you will be the president of Mexico”. . Something that AMLO remembers.  Trump thinks they will have a good relationship but says “we will see.” 

Mexico’s new president "AMLO" views that are radically different that the past:
*It is not the problem or responsibility of Mexico to help the United States fight its “Drug War” 
*Amnesty for drug kingpins and growers of marijuana and opium poppy plants 
*Greatly reduce Mexico’s military in the fight against cartels 
 *AMLO’s suggestion regarding the U.S. border; he  says the United States should send its military to guard its borders.
*Open Borders:   He is in support of “Open Borders” and has no interest in helping the United States in its “illegal immigrant” problem
Mexico has a new president, at the end of its bloodiest campaign in history with over 130 murdered candidates. [22 of Mexico's 31 states have seen a political assassination since campaigning began in September. According to according to Etellekt, a crisis management group]

The newly elected leader, a leftist populist whose long political marathon,  has finally crossed the victory marker, in impressive fashion.  He had stated, this was his last presidential campaign.

For Andrés Manuel López Obrador, 64, of the more commonly known as “AMLO”, third time was the charm.  In his previous presidential attempts, [2006, 2012, 2018] AMLO failed to win the hearts and minds of the wealthy.  In this go around, the Morena political party candidatewas able to connect a broad group of supporters, even wealthy voters. Citizens who perhaps, are exasperated at the failed policies of the past, and the inability of previous administrations to curb deepened violence and corruption in Mexico.


In 2006, he refused to accept his narrow presidential election defeat, calling the election as fraud.  This triggered mass protests in the Zocalo in Mexico City that lasted a month. 

The new president whose agenda has always had its focus on poverty, and corruption, which he feels are tormentors that are joined at the hip.  However, how he will be able to amend those issues remains  unclear. 

As the former head of Mexico City, he was unable to achieve those goals.

As for drugs and kingpins, AMLO is thinking maybe a deal with the devil is the path to stride.  Saying perhaps that is the way to peace in a country that has lost 100’s of thousands of lives in its war against cartels. He must have forgotten that types of deals were what got Mexico to place it now finds itself in. 

He wants to sit down and negotiate.  Even release the kingpins from prison.  A caveat being, saying, “If it is necessary … we will talk about granting amnesty so long as the victims and their families are willing,” he said.

And immigration?  Let’s look at the hypocrisy of Mexico.  Mexico has some of the toughest immigration laws on the planet.  Some align with what President Trump is hoping for.  It has a point system, stringent requirements, such as a personal connection to Mexico, and over a certain age, financial proof requirement, or a large business investment.

And let’s not forget the harsh treatment of immigrants while travelling in Mexico from its southern border.  According to Amnesty International some 12k economic migrants “disappear” each year, thousands of others are forcibly taken into servitude by the cartels.  Few care about migrants in Mexico, clearly not Mexican citizens, or its government.  There is little protection for migrants in Mexico other than religious based shelters like “Casa Migrante”.  And the government has deemed it illegal for migrants housed in shelter to stay for more than two days or be arrested. 

So, the government “dismay” and those wealthy kids protesting at Zocalo against the U.S. and its immigration policies, should not fool anyone.

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It’s difficult to determine what this new presidency will affect the United States.  On its face an AMLO presidency appears the antithesis of President Donald Trump. 

But if one takes AMLO at his word, AMLO realizes, although there are major ideological differences, it is imperative that he works with the U.S., especially because of its geographical connection. 

And there are alike comparatives between the two neighboring leaders.   They both have hair trigger reactions to criticisms, and are skillful at name calling and retaliatory hit-backs.

AMLO says he thinks he will get along with Trump, viewing Trumps rhetoric as political bombast targeting his base.  He says treaties with the U.S. such as NAFTA are of the utmost importance.

To the NYT; “I mean, the Brazilians, the French can fight with the U.S., but Mexico, for geopolitical reasons, we simply cannot,” he added. “We have to come to an agreement.”

Time will tell what will happen between these two presidents.  Who knows, maybe they will discover a brother from another mother…….but with such huge differences in desired policies, it would be wise to secure your seat belt, the ride looks bumpy ahead.

199 comments:

  1. Sitting down with the Drug Cartels? He’s old enough to remember when Columbia tired this approach. Even Mexico has taken this ridiculous path before. The blood will flow and the blood will be on his hands this time.

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    1. Agreed, this radical approach is just asinine.

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    2. Props to AMLO, he just joined the most inner circle of thieves.

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    3. @9:00 dude if ya hadnt noticed blood IS flowing in rivers!
      The current 'king pin strategy' and a repressive approach is REALLY working well in enriching thecriminals and corrupt!

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    4. The amnesty is not aimed for drug lords, did you think that the 53% of mexicans are dumb enough to buy that?. It's aimed for farmers that their only way to survive in the worst living conditions is to grow poppy or maijuana, to sell to drug cartels, not because they want but 'cause theres no other thing to do. Check the PIB of San Pedro Garza García, for example, and any town in Chiapas or Oaxaca. The tittle is totally wrong, really thought that there was objective investigators in here, at least the one who wrote this.

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    5. Thats the way you control organized crime. You give them strict limits. If you do this we will come after you. The Mafia is good at following rules. What is asinine is continuing the militarized approach. Lets look back 10 years and see how that has worked out.

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    6. at 2:23...in more than one interview he says..and this is also on radio, that it is for farmers AND has said amnesty for kingpins. BUT he says if affected families agree.

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    7. 99.9% of the Mexicans murdered during EPN and FECAL wars on drugs were innocent the Mexicans murdered by the Mexican armies, marinas, polesias of any and many corporations exactly replicating the murdering in Colombia during the Falsos Positivos era, about 5000 military in Colombia are being investigated, has been srrested, the former president Uribe at the top and ordering the murdering still denies it ever happened, his minister of defense Juan Ramon Santos now still president supports the uribista point of view, Ivan Duque supports it, but human rights organizations and Human Rights Watch support the accusations, include there honest colombian armed forces army corporals sentenced to death for "snitching"
      --Mexico still has to wait 6 more months and the judases are already accusing the supposed redeemer before he whips any of the money changers or the pharisees or the philistines...
      Very edificant, BB

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    8. If this guy lets out z40 then he should be removed from power asap. Could you imagine?

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    9. 7:39 99.9% ? Lost all credibility as soon as you typed .

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    10. 10:13 I hope you are chewing your panties while they are on fire from the fear, wuuuh, Z40 released?
      I am sure AMLO is "weighing the reward"
      Pinche bato pendejo.

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    11. If AMLO does start releasing mass mudering drug Lord's, one by one, they'll be picked off by CIA, or a host of mercs. This would most likely include the new president. No way the US will let that go. The guys that are locked up are used up. That's why they're locked up. z40 wouldn't make it 50 yds from the gate. Drone Strike. The gloves would be off at that point. Any resistance from Mex gov would be laughable. Farmers, non sicario type workers family, and white collars would be fine. But mass mudering sicarios, shot callers, kidnappers, rapists etc...they will be eliminated.

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    12. you play too much COD read Clancy´s fiction

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    13. What's COD?? Tom Clancy sucks....never read fiction.

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    14. 8:50 get of z40s nuts cheerleader

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  2. He is not going to do jack.

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  3. A fresh look from someone who wants to represent the underserved is a good idea. AMLO is more Bernie Sanders than Trump though.

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    1. He ain't going to do a thing. It will all be the same.

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    2. 9:00 am the blood has been flowing for 29 years, since 2012 it has only grown worse. So what are you talking about? Those 4 points Chivis wrote will decrees the violence in Mexico, let the drugs and the migrants flow north unimpeded. AMLO should also just legalize the commercialization of Cannabis since the US and Canada have already done this or are taking steps on doing it.

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    3. 11:18 Obamanos chose to not to "enforce the law" against gruff growers or small businessmen but still allowed some inter-state trafficking by leaving it up to the states, he muy malo, --but after 1.5 years the trompeta and his trompitos have not done crap to get rid of the lack of enforcement of "THE LAW", there must be a Lotta money there...only for the US...
      --all others must beg on their knees for their medicine like doggie treats, but AMLO does not qualify for anything because he is a communista, unless he pays for the 25 to 30 billion dollar wall, people are getting mad because they can't get to THEIR COMMISSIONS, ALL THAT CONCRETE AND STEEL.
      --FAT TONY SALERNO WOULD BE PROUD IF HE SAW HIS HEIR/DISCIPLE associate doin' sooo well with his Old Outfit.

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  4. Mexican trump lol what is the world coming to I wonder...

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  5. Good he shows how racist and corrupt Mexicans really are.
    US will put a real hurt on that sheethole he now runs!
    Up goes the wall!
    Bye Bye NAFTA!
    Hello drone attacks on TERRORIST drug cartels!
    Fact!

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    1. Good riddance. Mexico's supposed benefit from NAFTA is that there would be more middle classjobs -- instead, Mexico's labor has been priced so low that Chinese investors have been lobbying to outsource some of their work to Mexico.

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    2. 9:40 even Mike Tyson recognizes AMLO POWER and says so on videos, soo, are you somehow intellectually challenged?
      I know it is not mental, in spite of the appearances...

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    3. 9:40 At least somebody with some insight . This shit is going down hill now . I fear revolution in mexico . Unless this guy can figure out how to direct the peoples anger at the USA . The anger is will be coming when the people figure out what the final results of his policies will be . Trump is just the president at the wheel now . Cant see any president of our past (except maybe Obama) that would have a good reaction to this . Mexico could get weaned off the tit and its always true , the longer one sucks the tit , them more pissed they are at weaning time.

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    4. 8:59 LOL . Im not 9:40 but am about to bust a gut about you using MIKE TYSON as a reference for somebody in the know . If I ever wanted to try and prove a point from now on I will look to Mike Tyson for his intellectual opinion . LOL LOL LOL

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    5. 10:41 most voters are not distinguished because of their intellect,
      Morena's closest rival "recky Anaya "El huichol canaya" 20% of the votes, pepetoño el rey de las torta"

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    6. ...pepe toño 15% AMLO 53% Of the vote, a popular vote not seen in many decades, even former presidents are recognizing AMLO's victory and supporting him "for mexico".
      AMLO ALSO CUT HIS PAY AS PRESIDENT TO HALF WHAT EPN MAKES and promises to end corruption and robberies some people want to recover the goodies stolen through SEDESOL and la estafa maestra by the top ratas, rosario Robles and EPN.
      CARL ROMERO DESCHAMPS the charro leader of PEMEX workers also supports AMLO, "wholly"

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  6. It's going to get interesting with trump, can't wait. A hole lot of tweets about him coming up in a few weeks if abrador really does what he claims he will. Mexico needs a president like that, they ALL sell out and that's vwhy Mexico is in bad shape. Mexico has many riches but unfortunately only the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

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    1. Wrong, the RICH flee and the POOR too!

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    2. The rich do not flee, the poor flee if tgey have a chance

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    3. I guess you haven't geard what happened in Cuba in 1958. Cuban elites fled in droves in fear of Castro's regime.

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    4. 5:03 many elites died, but nothing like in china, vietnam, laos, cambodia, or russia to whose plutocratic satrapy even the US delivered its share of war prisoners to be murdered by the Little Priest, El Padrecito, Joseph Stalin...
      --Never mind the victims of Bangladesh or East Timor yesterday or today's Rohingya, their lands are needed for casinos and hotels and tourist centers...
      --The millions killed to impose salvation of christian values and democracy on the middle east, on iraq, iran, syria, Mexico or the rest of Latin America are on the US too.
      --please name or count the victims of AMLO's Mass murdering...

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    5. AMLO murdered the career of that Mexico City popular up and cumer politician who would dress up in costumes a few years ago. It shows how corrupt AMLO is.

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  7. And yet there have been drug trafficking plazas and drug money laundering all over the US for more than a hundred years, some institutions have been confiscated by the US government itself like Prescott's Bank Carlos Hank Gonzalez bank or carlos azcarraga arrest in tejas where he escaped at gunpoint.
    All we want is to stop the murdering of Mexicans all over the country by Mexican armed forces that rely on body counts and disappearances of including students hijacking passenger buses "loaded with drugs and billions of dollars" armed with empty cans disguised to collect spare change from the public on the street...
    The past has not worked, but AMLO was not in charge, and the future may not work either, but I blame the mediatic war that the extreme rights have ready started, which brings to mind the assassination of Jorge Eliécer Gaytan president elect of Colombia one day before he took power, or Jaime Roldós or Salvador Allende...

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  8. Russia got what it wanted, Venezuela 2.0! Bold prediction, as AMLO weakens the peso, the migrant crisis at the US border will reach a point of massive impact turning Mexico to a place where tourism numbers are impacted.

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    1. migrant crisis? Illegal immigration has been on the decline for years now.

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    2. The coyotes specially selected young mothers and parents with very young kids this time, special selected to split to jails and prison and dog cages that pay private corrections and ICE, BP, homeland security and other private contractors 400 to 700 hundred dollars a day PER BED, WHETHER USED OR NOT...
      AND SOME SELECT CONTRACTORS MAKE 2 000.00 DOLLARS PER NIGHT per prisoner to make congress cry uncle and deliver those lousy 25 to 30 billion dollars for the wall...commissions are expected of course, mafioso style, 10% just to get on the stalls, and 90% after we lose the races and the horses to the russians...all the safe gambling revenue go to them Red Mafiya gumbas and their loaded dice...

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  9. Nicely done, thank you

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  10. Sounds like a big WIN for the Cartels!

    Grow some balls Mexico!

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    1. Lets look in the mirror first.

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    2. where is the evidence of AMLO sided with cartels?...none? ok.

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    3. 10:11 they did, thats why they are trying something different and they saved the Chorizo for you.

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  11. AMLO will turn communist, then USA will invade Mexico and stop the nonsense once and for all.

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    1. 'communist'..oh god, the amount of ignorance is cringe worthy.

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    2. So basically the drug problem doesn't go away... We just take the production over???

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    3. American public education.

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    4. 5:37 like everything else, including making POÓP,
      World profiteers demand the BUSINESS AND THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION be farmed out to the best,
      they themselves, GOD'S OWN SELECT...
      education like the military, corrections, health care and making POP must be privatized for the most expensive premium price, the government's problem is to find the pendejos to pay for all of it, and if they have to get their nalgas to the pawn shop so be it...
      American education has produced some smartest, intelligent, cultured and educated men in history, many of them self taught, no private education enterprise had anything to do with them...
      --Education privatizers like public education sabotagers need some good old ass whipping ASAP, not talking and getting along to conspire against the American public education ...

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  12. The PRI House of Cards began to fall with the Iguala Massacre.

    In Spring of 2014, Time Magazine had a cover showing EPN as "Saving Mexico." It was the "Mexican Moment," when Mexico was to join the First World, with a booming economy brought about by the "reforms."

    By the end of the year after the Iguala Massacre, EPN's approval began to decline. The Casa Blanca scandal then hit. New independent media, such as SinEmbargo and Animal Politico, wouldn't let the corruption slide this time.

    The "investigation" into the Iguala Massacre revealed hopeless incompetence and obstruction of justice, torture and planting evidence. This led the stubborn PRI team to begin losing fights with international and non-governmental groups around the world.

    By Summer of 2015, PRI lost big time as the mid-terms. Since then it's been a non-stop string of corrupt Governors, Estafa Maestras, spying scandals and poor economic growth and inequality.

    All of this led to the AMLO wave, but it began with the Iguala Massacre, covered expertly by Chivis right here.

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    1. Bingo! It absolutely began with the Iguala massacre and the "investigation"

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    2. I found it funny all the politicians getting killed... And EPN says nothing about it on Twitter...

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    3. It began when FECAL started the war ON drugs, but some say he is only a pinch borracho, and the worst drug addicts are the armed forces, genarco Garcia luna and osorio chong helped, to let EPN get BLO's business since he was governor of Mexico city on his way to the presidency that had been denied to his uncle Alfredo del mazo the self made billionaire who got his french wife's young lover murdered, he also got his billions by stealing all of them from his government position, he wished he had killed his wife, EPN really killed his...
      But all this Mexican show happened before in Colombia, where the government still defends the armed forces because it believes their armed forces would never murder without their generals being aware, but they did, with help of generals, ministers and presidents...

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    4. Thx for the timeline. It marks the point.

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    5. FECAL? Who or what is that?

      What about el Cabeza de Cagadas de Vaca?

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    6. FECAL...Felipe Calderon jaja

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    7. 6:34 Panista like El Huichol Ricardo aka "El canalla" Anaya Francisco Javier Garcia cabeza de cagadas de vacas will keep on truckin' as tamaulipas narco-governor...
      Tejas, his birthplace will cooperate with the drug traffickin' to make him the next president of the Mexican Republic and to make a few pesos for themselves...
      Because sin chichis there is no paradise,
      I mean without drug traffickin' there is no paradise.

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  13. The approach is sound. Fuck the US and the bullshit drug war. Mexico gets fucked at every turn by the US. Mexici should have been producing Marijuana legally 5 years ago. Now they are behind once again in a legal billion dollar business. We need to remove the IV of venom the US is pumping Mexico with! Cartels have to be violent, but amnesty of OGs can reduce the innocent .blood shed. If you work and you steal or rob or kidnap, cartel justice will happen. You don't get the opportunity to pay your way out like you do with the current corrupt government. Legalise marijuana,do not allow us companies to invade. In 20 years it will be a different Mexico.

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    1. Someone sounds bitter! Who pi$$ed on your burrito???

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    2. 10:31 you're an idiot. The US is like a sheepdog and Mexico is like a garapata stuck to the back its neck. Nothing the US does can get rid of the tick (garapata) It just continues to suck the blood out of its neck.

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    3. Just like the last 10. 20 . 40 years it was nicer iin the 60s to 95. They gone backwards since then

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    4. Not bitter just tired of Americans!

      Only a American idiot would believe that Mexico need America. America is the tick, Sucking the blood out of every country it gets it greedy hands on. Ive seen it first hand, Iraq, Afghanistan, Mexico. All they have to do is create a terror threat and countries fall. But greedy pigs only see one side, come spend a day in Mexico, Life is not as easy as Starbucks and BMW's.

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    5. I agree with 10:31 your very smart guy. Its true the US doesnt care about the bloodshed in Mexico, thats fueled by dumb american addicts.so now that mexicos realizing that mericans love there drugs it time to think about mexico. let them continue to drown in drugs since they arent interested in stopping. And mexico should focus in reducing its bloodshed.

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    6. at 10:14....there's a reason American's are not running to Mexico in the same manner as Mexicans and Central Americans are running north! What does Mexico have to offer?? Why would America worry about the bloodshed in Mexico? Mexico is not concerned with the problems that drugs bring into America....it works both ways. Yes there are lots of addicts in America and so far, the Mexicans that supply the drugs to America are too stupid to understand the gold mine they are next to. Instead of working together, establishing boundaries, communicating weak points or partnering....the cartels are just greedy and fight among each other, not to mention....taking advantage of the innocent people of Mexico. When they started killing each other and killing innocent people in record numbers....that is when it became a problem!! Call Americans greedy all you want...but that greed has also affected the cartels that so many Mexicans cheer for.

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    7. Anyone heard of La Reconquista ?
      Every indigenous person on this earth has. Most of all of our ancestors started this with Imperialism and Colonilization for craps sakes. Greedy bastards one and all, could not and will not ever quit. Whoever said anyone had the right to own Mother Earth and ALL of its resources ?

      I just saw a documentary about how Rhinos actually regrow their horns really quite quickly if cut off ! Now , that’s what we , humans , are doing to try to save the remaining Rhinos. I know , sounds way off topic , but it’s NOT. Imagine all those poached dead rhinos who would be alive if greedy idiots wouldn’t kill them for wtf they use them for, it all comes down to $$$$$.
      We and everything ARE connected.
      Can’t we at least look at AMLO and Moreno’s big win with some shred of hope ? Must we dismiss an attempt at a different approach? Why WISH failure on someone who might not live to take office.

      PS: He will NOT let Z40 outta anything / anywhere. No one would.

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    8. No, 10:31, there can be no compromise whatsoever with the cartels, i’m sorry. They are animals.

      El Marino Loco

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    9. Hey 10:14 I am an American but have lived in Mexico for about 12 years. Tijuana, Mazatlan, and rural Chiapas. I've seen it. Most Mexicans just want to use the US. They cross the border illegally and get all the benefits they can get without even making the effort to learn the language. I've seen Mexicans turn whole neighborhoods into barrios selling everything Mexican on the corners including their drugs. I'm married to a Mexican national who became a citizen and learned the language. She assimilated into the culture here instead of trying to bring her old culture and change the US. You're still an idiot.

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    10. @10:14 “The United States directs an average of $320 million worth of aid a year to Mexico for various programs...” USA Today 01/2017
      If Mexico doesn’t ‘need it’ tell them to say no thanks we’ll fight cartels, starvation, corruption, education & health issues on our own.

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    11. But that would mean we battle on U.S. land. Not a good prospect. The two border countries must work togethermajd share intel.

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    12. 5:13 the fix has been in and going on for more than a hundred years, the mafia may have started it but I don't think so...
      The US government and businessmen farmers subcontracting with Mexicans to sidetrack their free black laborers included drugs in the package until they made it illegal to work it in the shadows and TAX FREE until these days some smart ares decided to legalize to tax and spend without prison risk.
      The cartels are US governmen rogue agents owned...

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    13. The worst fucking tick (garrapata) in the world is the US, that is why the US outspends by 90% every other country in the world put together, in defense.
      That is why on the US Americans can make in one hour of light work what other world citizens make in one year of hard labor, but the main reason refugees come here is that the US is not going to bomb themselves to get rid of illegal aliens any time soon...

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    14. no nameJuly 4, 2018 at 10:23 AM

      What benefits do illegal try to take advantage of kiddo? Other than education there is nothing else. You cannot get food stamps, wick, et cetera. I think your information is a little off. It sucks that you so happened to have to see a nice prominent neighborhood turned into a "barrio ese". Not all "hispanics" are like that (remember not all illegals are mexican.) - kao

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  14. Someone asked for my sources. I wrote this article. I quoted, once, NYT and said as much. The remainder is mine opinion from working in Mexico and researching the drug war history and up close and personal with migrants and casa migrantes for over 10 years. I formed a "72" project working closely with migrants after the san fernando massacre.

    Also....AMLO is using rhetoric, IMO, in his words about amnesty...he has a caveat about having families blessings, indicating it is hype. But I would not be surprised if he did in fact meet for discussions with narcos.

    and remember AMLO is no Trump politically, but similar in some personality traits.... Paz

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    1. Chivis can you break down the states that voted for AMLO and the states that didn't ect. I want to see some stats.

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    2. Trump and AMLO comparison is unfair, both have different upbringing and different ideologies. Trump is pragmatic in essence, aligning with democrats as well as republicans, his actions favors the rich while AMLO made some changes in DF to help poor people.
      What we see now is that AMLO changed strategy and sided with many elite rich people, he was more pragmatic this time in order to secure presidency (as anyone would see, government is not a one-man job.
      its too early to say he will be Latin-american Trump or Maduro/Chavez 2.0, time will tell and by now he is the better choice than PAN/PRI had to offer.
      There is hope, and I really hope to see justice come to Iguala, San Fernando, Michoacán, Guerrero, Tamaulipas and countless more cases of violence and corruption.
      Peace.

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    3. NYT lies lol

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    4. 3:41 I think the NYT is talking baby version of what they really think, I couldn't say they are naive about US business where they go hard against the BS or that they have something to win from being malicious against AMLO.
      Of course some pens have sold out and they pounce when ordered burning their credibility, ethics, morals and honor, may be some good money there, now we know "tony" kennedy's son who is an executive in Deutsche Bank Cyprus lent a billion dollars in secret to some American loser and now his SCOUTS daddy resigns to make room for an extreme right appointee that will kill presidential investigations at will and without checks and balances...if a US supreme court justice can be bought like that, WHO CAN'T BE BOUGHT?

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    5. 1:32 she was talking about temperment

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  15. Excellent writeup, looking forward to your coverage of things going forward.

    It says in this Vice article that Fox sponsored legislation to decriminalize marijuana, but then squashed it when the US put pressure on him.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kzkmnw/the-us-stopped-other-countries-from-legalizing-weed-for-generations

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    1. Fox is going to lose his penion

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    2. 8:48 no more silk bloomers for "La Chachalaca" fox, but what i'd really like to see is the stepsons alias Bribiesca Brothers processed for corruption, tbeir contracts annulled and made to pay restitution before they get sent to prison, mommy Martha Sahagun DE fox may deserve everything of all the best for forking as to fox, but she does not deserve to have Mexico to kick around at will...and that is for starters...

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  16. Nothing will change, except the pockets of the government will get deeper, and the battle for turf will get stronger. How about this president doing something to entice the people of Mexico to not flee to another country? The border problem would be solved, if people had a reason to stay. Everyone blames Trump, but everyone needs to look at what their leaders are doing; nothing to improve life in their own country.

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  17. Nothing is gonna change, we’ll see what cartel was the highest bidder for this one. Ponresito mi Mexico lindo.

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  18. Glad to see this report of AMLOs prospective / agenda for Mexico BB.
    Not many here are aware of the political situation facing its citizens nor the worrisome uncertainty for other countries.
    Points of view are clearly different depending on which side one sits on.
    Mexicos citizens do benefit from his agenda to a certain degree. While a controversial and skeptical view is taken contrary by others (morally speaking).
    Added with Business investments and trade agreements.
    Question is? Will Mexico continue to uphold it's own immigration policies from those entities entering from its south. After all it's been U.S. financial services and support protecting its borders?
    Geographically speaking; Mexico and U.S. are intertwined not only economically but culturally. It makes sense for both nations to come to agreements and solutions.
    Nice job Chivis.
    Let's hope for the best.
    The damage has been done depending upon who one speaks to.

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  19. This guy is financed by narco families. How in the hell is he going to increase the minimum wage without raising taxes? Also,immunity to narcos would create more of them because they would not be scared to be in prison in the U.S. This guy is Chavez 2.0,how can you legalized Opium Production? Look what China went through back in the day.The people in Congress should check ALL his friends and family members for increased wealth!

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    1. Rather extradition treaties would be voided! Harboring criminals while possibly aiding and abetting a crime?

      E42

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    2. I like how you see into the future without a single proof and not even 24 hours AMLO got elected.
      Time will tell my friend.

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    3. 11:35 I can assure you no russian banker son of no SCOUTS JUDGE has ever lent AMLO a billion dollars...
      --AMLO is also NOT electing supreme court judges that will give him a break when his case comes up for impeachment

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    4. Supreme court has nothing to do with impeachment...

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  20. Good news that https://mexicovoices.blogspot.com/ is now back publishing again after an extended break.

    It's a great source for English language translations of Mexico news and analysis.

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  21. This is one of the most absurd ridiculous modern political policies I’ve heard of house he possibly going to fairly release all drug traffickers?! It’s not possible he’ll have to give some a free pass while others will sit and rot and it will cause complete chaos. It boggles my mind how this man hasn’t learned from many other countries mistakes. If this is implemented it will be a disaster!

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    1. Sometimes it is better not to pay too much attention to what you "hear", specially from "brainwashed matracas" that will talk for years about nothing.
      It is like yearning for a past that never was.

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  22. AMLO aight gona fix shit because The PRI are still in the chamber of deputies LoL ..
    Remember the president is just the face of a nation the decisions of a country are manage by elites. There are some things that the own president won’t know and eventually will find out but won’t do nothing because it will favor his own interests even after he steps down.

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    1. AMLO starts being president Dec 1st 2018, he will have majorities in the Senate and in Congress, he will name some supreme court justices and ready has named some people to his cabinet, has declared he owes nobody anything exceptfor his debt to the people that elected him 3 TIMES to the presidency already

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  23. For the cynical Americans posting negativity against AMLO, is your own sour grapes about your world. I was in CDMX pre and post AMLO, and he did do very good. Any step in the right direction is better than PRI and PAN. Instead of just flaming, say something constructive to get the other readers to reflect, support, and debate in real life.

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    1. USA needs to legalize drugs and all will be over. Prohibition anyone? -kao

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    2. Legalizing only to tax someone else for benefit of tax and spend politicians of all colors is not good for anyone.
      Decriminalizing small pushers, farmers, and addicts would help some, but genuine medical pursuits should be left alone.
      Stop claiming recreative addiction requires Medicinal Yerbas and that "Medicinals" require addictive Yerba or substances be mandatorily legalized just to grab some taxes.

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  24. amnesty for drug kingpins, no more drug war, and no more border? looks like the cartels are openly running the MEXican government now.. at least they're being honest.

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    1. 2:22 AMLO does not start being El Presidente until December 1st 5 months from now...
      --some people can still enjoy the progress, democracy, and all the blessings exclusively owned by their favorite brand of "capitalism" that expresses it's lovely ways through mass murdering innocents, police, paramilitary and military massacres, government corruption and drug trafficking typical of their hypocrisy and their share of the pie.
      They may listen now to senator Sansores when she tells them to go and "vayan y privatizen a su puta madre que Los parió"

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  25. I guess they will not need those billions dollars given to them to fight the drug wars in Mexico. I guess if they did not give them money what Trump said is true. That Mexico would pay for the wall. In a round about way. But who knows if Amlo will really do as he says.

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  26. Fuck yeah let the dope flow north fuck the dope fiends. I would tell the cartel kingpins to send it uncut and let the dumb motherfuckers that wanna get high just die.

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    1. Dam sounds lile you already got
      your pipe full

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    2. Candace - You do realize how ridiculous that sounds, right?

      What happens when your kid puts down the chicken and picks up the needle? You know who said "my kid is going to be an addict when they grow up"? Nobody!

      I guess your kids could go the down the kingpin route. But they'd likely end up on an execution video posted right here on BB for us all to see.

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  27. This will not end well for Mexico.....I guess you guys never heard of Hugo Chavez before?

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    1. 4:29 yeah, colombian citizen maduro poisoned Chavéz with Russian poisons, that cost Chavéz all his boxing championships and the presidency of Vergazuela.

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  28. Communist dictorship. Free free everything. Until money runs out and the peso goes to 50 to 1. Its economics 101. Wake up Mexico

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    1. Amlo is a socialist Mexico will become the new venesuela

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    2. Vietnam has been communist since the 70s, Nicaragua still has Daniel Ortega for Presidente, Cuba has been communist since the 50s, CHINA HAS BEEN COMMUNIST (or socialista) since the end of WW II and the bottom did not fall off the world...
      --Could you take it easy with your dumbass "preemptive strike propaganda"?

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    3. AnonymousJuly 2, 2018 at 6:05 PM
      Amlo is a socialist Mexico will become the new venesuela


      I'm not sure where you live brah but Mexico is on par if not worse than Venezuela. -kao

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  29. Cant believe the readers of BB who are aware of just how bad the violence is dont see the connection between prohibition and cartels. the only "logical" solution in your minds to a government created problem is..
    more government intervention, more power to the state. in fact? Why are drugs illegal? Nobody owns my body except myself, i get to decide what i put in it. Not some beaurocrats who pretend to do it for our own good when it clearly only benefits those in power (both governmemts

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    1. ZZzzz ZZZzzzz
      Not the “everything would be perfect if all drugs are legal” guy.

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    2. You're right lets fix a government created mess by giving more power to the government and hey while were at it lets make booze and alcohol illegal too! Why buy booze from a store when i can go downtown to some sketchy dealer plus with marijuana legalization cartels need more profits so lets just give it to them

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    3. Zzzzz zzzz

      Not the "everything would be perfect if we give more power to the people that created this mess" guy

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    4. Making drugs legal would not solve the problem, the cartels animals would just continue with the kidnapping, human trafficking, extortion ecc ecc. What do you think people like these http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2018/01/graphic-video-viagras-behead-father-and.html would do if drugs were legalized?

      They just have to be exterminated, period.

      El Marino Loco

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    5. 1:23 the viagras criminal organization is a government organized and grown property that has nothing to do with AMLO or other cartels, except their links to government, starting wit IN michoacan, all EPN's puppets.

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    6. UnknownJuly 2, 2018 at 4:36 PM

      I'm with you. -kao

      AnonymousJuly 4, 2018 at 1:23 PM

      You can only kidnap and or extort peeps for so long not enough money to go around to live the narcos lifestyle. Not enough money pay off the goverment officials/military/law enforcement et cetera. -kao

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  30. There's an interview of Popeye from Colombia talking about Mexican cartels where he speaks about amlo it's on YouTube

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    1. There is another video where Popeye talks about "he can't talk about Alvaro Uribe Velez, El Ubérrimo de caquetá about to be tried for his crimes and cover-ups, conspiracy, collusion and obstructions on the Urabá...
      --There go the rights of colombian senators Not to be Tried anywhere in the world...

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  31. Raise the minimum wage and retirement for the people of Mexico sounds good I will buy stocks in Ford Chevy and dodge also Buchanan and now ace of spades because you know what us Mexicans like to do with our money

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  32. Looks like the cartels and Russia got the candidate they wanted elected.

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    1. Now they just need Canada and it’s a wrap

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    2. Go ahead and be naive if you want.. That's what they want you to do...

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    3. 6:25 according to the INE, no Russians voted for AMLO,
      no cartel card carrying members either...
      --It was all straight Mexican people rejecting PRI, EPN, FECAL, PAN, PVEM narco-politicians, their "wars ON drugs", and Colombia styled 12 YEARS OF "FALSOS POSITIVOS..."

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  33. If AMLO is legit and true to what he espouses, there is a chance with a bad break here and there, Mexico goes they way of Venezuela on a hopefully smaller scale. Mass nationalization of assets with ancintire of corruption means the people keep getting screwed and it could all actually explode into a narco state, rather than a thinly veiled narco state. I hope he does well and it improves the lives of the average Mexican citizen. I’ve never understood the trump derangement in the US, in that I don’t like most of what AMLO represents, but I would never wish him to fail. Failure means negative effects on human beings lives, and just as I wasn’t an Obama supporter, I didn’t want him to fail. I fear for Mexico under AMLO, and the reverberations for the next presidential term or more, but I would hope that most sane people can disagree and still wish good things for the people of Mexico and the families of my friends in the states. Good luck and god speed, even though you are a half assed socialist. Maybe he will bring Bernie in as an advisor and keep him away from his American hypocrisy. Time to see how bad socialism is, and yet all the red hearted, trash can burning whilst on strike shills in the word media, can always claim the same old excuse if it fails, that it didn’t go far enough and wasn’t real socialism. Thanks for the info BB!

    Finesse in Texass

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    1. Your exactly right... those voting for socialism are truly blind.

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    2. Branding somebody a socialist for wanting to provide more better affordable education and health care, for wanting to stop "wars ON drugs" by greedy money addicts and wars for profit for chicken hawk war profiteers, is not very nice, specially after the lousy results our capitalist giants have delivered to the US over the last 39 years plus 8 of the Nixon/ford presidency...

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    3. he openly embraces socialism

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  34. Does anyone have any info on AMLO's position on gun rights?

    If he will open up gun ownership to the general public?

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    1. Promise u he won't. He is not for gun right either is Bernie

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    2. 7:45 NO GUNS, but I bet AMLO has a secret plan to invade the US with Mó Bigger Better Taco Trucks, And then the world...
      It will be the tastiest brand of communism, but a danger to life on the planet, because methane may endanger every species

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  35. Nestora Salgado in Guerrero appears to be in. Unfortunately Dr. Mireles, who would have easily won with Morena given the AMLO wave, was kicked off the ballot just a few weeks ago.

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    1. 8:00 Dr Mireles DECLINED a safe federal senatorship, 2 times, he does not want to be a window dressing pushover in the federal senate, he chose to run for Michoacan State Congress and stay local, he does not like fancy federal politics.

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  36. Fuck it! ima run for president! and I will round up all the addicted people and have special boot camps for For them in every state!
    Then I will legalize all drugs and the money that we have to spend for the drug on wars I will use it to Rehabilitate all this people because the problem is not the cartels it’s the consumers!

    This been said, my war on drugs will start by helping with the Rehabilitation of the addicted and not waste funds capturing capos that will be replaced ones Caught this will be a never ending story. This is how I will fight the cartels not by taking them to prison taking there drugs or taking there assets but by taking away there consumers! Period.

    Gracias,

    Sincerely,
    -El Gallo

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    1. You are talking about thousands of employees loosing their jobs. Law enforcement, attorneys, penitentiary officials, vendors who supply incarceration facilities, ect.
      Added with those who invest their illegal money in many of our economy sectors. Whether by taxes in purchases or by investment practices.

      Expect the unemployment rate to rise!

      Education is key for drug prevention along with treatment. Not many will be happy with this solution. Especially with big government contracts.
      Expect a lobbying campaign by those affected to fight it rigorously.

      E42

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    2. Exactly 42, this why hard drugs will never be legalized because countries specially the U.S depends from this. Illegal drugs play a huge part in the economy. I totally agree with you. But I was just saying how Easy it is to solve the problem right? Sad to say that this will never stop because of personal interest Of some evil people..

      El dinero es el mismo diablo!

      -El Gallo


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    3. Rigorous re-education camps will show criminals the way.
      They will be free or self sustaining, work does wonders when it comes to re-educating the innocent, imagine the miracles real work will do with the bunches of greedy bastards?

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  37. AMLO DID SAY AMNESTY FOR NARCOS..MANY TIMES
    http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/elecciones-2018/amlo-plantea-analizar-amnistia-lideres-del-narco-para-garantizar-la-paz

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com.mx/2017/12/03/amnistia-para-narcos-la-idea-de-amlo_a_23295640/

    https://www.animalpolitico.com/2017/12/amlo-obrador-amnistia-carteles-narco/

    and dozens more, and you are correct on his radio interviews

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  38. Why isnt anyone talking about Lebron going to Lakers lol!!!

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    1. Nobody cares. Tells us more about mencho. Is 85 cool with the Osegueras?

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    1. Unknown - No doubt.

      Better convert your Peso's to some Fiat and/or Cryto Currencies. Cryto is super low/cheap right now so that might be a good bet. But those markets are extremely volatile so who knows. Really just depends on your belief in the various real world case uses for Blockchain.

      Phelpso

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    2. Real fools and their money are soon parted.
      But crypto-fools are the more real of fools, Garrarnteed to lose their ass way before shit hits the fan

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  40. AMLO is not a socialist. CDMX has thousands of condos built because he relaxed zoning laws, and he assigned thousands of contracts to construction firms to redo traffic lights and build freeways to relive traffic congestion in the metropolis. He beefed up the police force (yeah yeah yeah, you say they are corrupt and criminals, but so are USA's "finest" -- and you know it) to make CDMX the hottest American tourist destination. CDMX's economy is booming thanks to AMLO, so he is not a socialist.

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    1. 9:39 building condos by government orders to empty Mexican multifamily rooms from the center of Mexico city IS communist socialism at work for the new owners of the historic center of the Capital city.
      --It is not the capitalist way to get financed by the government to build apartment for the broke assed, even if that is how daddy made his millions of dollars, helped by being a Slum Lord on the side, thereby holding hostage the future occupants of said government financed constrictions...
      --even giving them bus fare to come to the city, an enterprise now being emulated by the pogrom of Guatemalan and Honduran young parents with children to the US to be split...
      Those who say the tree doesn't fall far from the seed don't lie

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  41. I love the blame on the US... Pretty sure it wasn’t Americans who killed 250,000+ persons below the border....

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    1. Mexico will never take responsibly for its own action. Just blame the US. And Mr. amlo look like real cry baby.

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    2. It was chinese weapons.

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    3. Americans get blamed for throwing rocks at mules on the border!!! But Mexicans beheading INNOCENT Mexicans and allowing other Mexicans to cheer for their favorite cartel..... that gets blamed on the Americans too.

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    4. Because the dope feinds fuel violence.

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    5. 1102: so that’s like saying because people do drugs I have the right to be violent. Sounds like placing blame on someone else.

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    6. 10:27 you are confusing baseless blame and conspiracy theories with fact based truths and facking conspiracy...
      --The Mexican military and polesias murdered more of those hundreds of thousands of innocent victims, the case against "Capitan Tormenta" alias arturo bermudez zurita his police and military and the "fieles" proves it.
      --Then you have the governors heading crime to make more money, like moreira, yarrington, the Duarte "Capulinas", borges, graco ramirez,
      --the US paid for the mexican military to get involved in their wars ON drugs. They earned it like Colombians polesias and melitary, murdering false guerrillas and narcos, giving them their military discharge and "legalization by assassination"
      20 Colombian generals are being investigated...they are the criminals at the cupola.

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  42. If amlo would do all that expect no partnerships with the USA and also expect declarations from the U.S. stating mexico is now a threat and now an ememy

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    1. Big deal.... Mexico doesnt need the US its the other way around mexico has allies left to right.

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    2. lots of countries with allies get invaded.

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  43. Tengan fe mis paisanos todo saldra bien con el favor de dios.
    Have faith my patriots, all will end well with God's blessings.

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  44. Cyclones y escorpiones tamalipas..Tijuana y baja CAF y la rana Aquilles pacifico MZ Los Chapitos Nogales sonora Los Salazar

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  45. Jaurez la liena paz con los de GN .artistas asesinos...con este numero no se ...que 666 paz

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  46. Very well written interesting article Chivis.I like the part of how you say that that's what got the violence to the level it is now because of the cartel pacts.I thought that too that hey it's already been done in secret but AMLO is just being honest about it.Maybe human rights reputations will improve usually that happens with socialist governments as opposed to communist governments and also the NAFTA may be better as Trudeaus socialist government is on the same page 2 left governments can maybe take on Trump or at the very least the 2 left governments would agree on a lot of things concerning NAFTA.

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  47. El Chapito viene de regreso a Mexico en un año, van a meter una denuncia en la corte del mundo contra el abuso de ley y reglas. Van a ver como lo van a regresar.

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  48. Excellent post. and a good discussion starter

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  49. How much bribe money do you think he has taken already?!. I hope for good citizens sake it be different this time but doubt it.

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  50. Free all criminals. Make Mexico really dangerous. Amlo please don't.

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  51. You are probably not going to post this because your own agenda, but you are forgetting something HE GOT ELECTED BY THE MEXICAN PEOPLE... so maybe that hints you that his politics that is what the MEXICAN people want

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  52. All u Progressive Democrats that love Bernie, u really like Amlo. He really a Lefty

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    1. I’m a Lefty. I bat and golf better righty tho. Weird

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    2. My apologizes didn't mean u. Left wingers

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  53. In the article it states AMLO " It is not the responsibility of Mexico to help the USA, to fight it's drug war." Wait a second..US has been sending millions per year(just like.Columbia) to Mexico to help fight the war on drugs. AMLO has to watch out what he is saying.

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    1. It’s politics. Smoke and mirrors, rinse and repeat.

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  54. What about cutting out the big corporation "farmers" like Monsanto? They are taking over all the small farmers by "legal" means, and then paying less than minimum wage to imported laborers from the poorest states. US and multinational corporations lining their pockets and those of their political allies in Mexico. A lot deeper than just cartels.

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    1. Right on, fuck Monsanto AND their complicit cohorts.

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  55. This is a smart president. He is going to be the BOSS of all cartels!

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    1. 5:42 all presidents are the boss of all cartels.
      And that includes the American president, no matter who it is, but Obama has never been accused other than when he was young and a student, he has said it himself, he used and sold,
      and he inhaled because that was the idea...

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  56. I feel so sorry for the good people of mexico. Tomorrow i celebrate independence day, I am so Blessed I live in the USA.God Bless America

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  57. AMLO has come to Michoacán many times over last year and said many times amnesty to narcos. People trying to lie are uninformed or liars or trolling. google in Spanish every big media has articles about it mostly in 2017

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  58. The States:

    In six states and this capital, Andrés Manuel López Obrador concentrated just over 50 percent of the votes that gave him the victory in the presidential election last Sunday.

    Those seven key entities for the triumph of the candidate who competed under an alliance of the parties Morena, PT and PES, were:

    State of Mexico, Mexico City, Veracruz, Puebla, Jalisco, Chiapas and Oaxaca.

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    1. These are simply large states. His victory was nation wide. He won every state except Guanajuato. He even won Anaya, Meade and Bronco's home polling stations!

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  59. @ July 3 7:33 PM
    “I am so blessed I live in the USA, god bless America”..... LOL! You have a lot of waking up to do! Your country is the cancer of the world.

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    1. Ever heard anyone say I’m so blessed to be a Central American???

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    2. 9:29 American people are also some of the most generous people in the world, it is a pity the US government is owned by the big money with very different priorities, they are the parasites of the whole world and certainly not Citizens, no matter how much they claim to be United

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    3. When you're the biggest dog on the porch, everyone hates you....Why, because you're the biggest baddest dog on the porch. When I served I saw the world. There's no other place anyone in their right mind would wanna live than in the US. This country ain't perfect, but it's still the best most powerful nation in the world.

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  60. so does that mean mencho outlasted pena nieto and is gonna get amnesty now ohh sorry buy amnesty now

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  61. dales la concesion al grupo sinaloa,AMLO rcq/mayo y las cosas van a marchar bien puro trabajo. JAGL.

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  62. The cartels do not want the US Military at the border. That would be a very bad thing for them. They think Border Patrol has all the high tech stuff? They haven't seen anything once the US Military puts troops down there, and Trump will if he has to.

    The "drug war" is stupid and people in America think so as well. It isn't Mexico's responsibility to fight the drug war with/for us, but as a friendly government it's in their best interest to help us catch the suppliers. However, as I said, it won't do anything to end the war. Just make the bosses younger. I am a libertarian and think drugs should be legal. Putting the military on the border is something Mexico would regret.

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    1. I am an American and do not think the drug war is stupid. But you're new President does not want to assist fine.Aid money given every year will stop, and the greedy bas#@&D's in Mexico government, want the money to put into thier pockets.

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    2. What is a libertarian?
      A person dependent on the authority of their dear leader whims and gut feelings?
      Then remember this: the guts are full of shit and bacteria, some more than others, made worse by your special bankrupt brand of ugly cooked steaks...

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    3. 2:23 I also don't think the drug war is stupid . I think more often we should hit harder and stop tip toeing around that border . When we are fired on at the border we should fire back with overwhelming fire power . As a libertarian in the USA , so far your opinion has little influence because you lose almost all election .

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  63. Politicians make a lot of promises, but back off when reality sets in.
    But AMLO’s drug war policy will be interesting indeed.
    If he is sincere, then fighting corruption should be the priority.
    The drug war is not just DTOs vs the state, it is a proxy war between corrupt elements in the government fighting each other like PRI/PAN using organized crime for some of this.
    Some politicians and business elites really need to be prosecuted and their assets frozen/siezed.

    But there has yet to be Mex president since Fox to tackle this.
    Will AMLO have the power and support to fo this?


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    1. Well if he was to attempt to clean corruption in the government, he would not last long alive. Simply they would get assassin's to finish him off.

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  64. You can almost see the Cartel hand up this puppets rear directing him and having him pretend to be anything but corrupt.

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    1. Yes you hit it on the nail, the only way, Pres.. O will survive is to be the puppet for the Cartels.

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  65. Does Mexico want to be invaded again? cause that's how they will get invaded.

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  66. Well we can see that Mexico is off to a great start ! Why not just turn the entire nation over to the Drug Cartels and MS-13 gangs and have done with it ? This is what happens when you elect Leftists to high offices !

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    1. @9:51 You can seek help. There are programs that can reverse brainwashing.

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  67. It seems these people are playing americans against americans. That's the way it has been since the civil rights act; the blacks are doing the same to us and reaping the rewards with the mexicans joining in. Stick together americans (real americans) like the above mentioned people are doing and watch the different outcome. You can tell from our politicians how fighting each other is working out. When this country is finished we are all finished.

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