Thursday, July 26, 2018

Gov claims conspiracy murder against Sinaloa Cartel "threats", in El Chapo case

Chivis Martinez for Borderland Beat

List lack details, among those identified include “JL”, Ramon Arellano Felix, Juancho, “Informants” and “Members of Law Enforcement” 

The government claims Chapo conspired in the murder of his cousin. Above El Juancho and Guero Bastidas

On July 20th, the United States prosecution team sent a letter to Eduardo Balarezo and William B. Purpura, the defense team for Joaquin El Chapo Guzmán. 

In the communication, the government provided a "bill of particulars" , supposedly specifying the murder victims and dates relating to count one, charging conspiracy to murder individuals whose posed a threat to the Sinaloa Cartel, although he is not charged with any violent acts himself.

The government goes on to state, “The government intends to prove the following murder conspiracies at trial.”

However, the government does not disclose the complete list of specific names of conspiracy victims, or any other information pertinent to the claims, citing “the disclosure would reveal the identity of cooperating witnesses”, which the government has yet to forward to the defense.
Obviously, a defense cannot be developed, or prepared for,  without information such as names, dates, what occurred, of the specific allegations.  

Says Balarezo:
“Under our Constitution, everyone has a right to due process and a fair trial — whether his name is John Smith or Joaquin Guzmán. The government’s actions in withholding evidence make a mockery of that right and deprive Joaquin of the ability to defend himself.”
On July 24th, El Chapo’s defense team filed a motion:

[defense on behalf of Chapo] “respectfully moves this Court for an Order precluding the government from introducing at trial any evidence relating to Violation 85 of Count 1, or alternatively, for a continuance of trial and directing the government to immediately produce evidence relating to Violation 85.”

The communication goes on to list facts in support of the request.  You can read the letter in full below.

In part:

Mr. Guzmán is before this Court on a fourth superseding indictment filed on May 11, 2016, which charges him and codefendant Ismael Zambada Garcia with a laundry list of offenses, including operating a continuing criminal enterprise (Count 1); participating in a wideranging narcotic trafficking conspiracy (Counts 2, 3 and 4); eleven counts of specific acts of distribution of cocaine (Counts 5 through 15); use of a firearm during a drug trafficking crime (Count 16); and conspiracy to launder narcotics proceeds (Count 17).

Although the government has not charged Mr. Guzmán with any violent offenses, it alleges in Count 1 (CCE) that:
The defendants JOAQUIN ARCHIVALDO GUZMAN LOERA and ISMAEL ZAMIBADA GARCIA and other leaders of the Sinaloa Cartel also employed“sicarios,” or hitmen, who carried out hundreds of acts of violence, including murders, assaults, kidnappings, assassinations and acts of torture at the direction of the defendants.Indictment at ¶ 5. 
Judge Cogan: 

It appears Judge Cogan has issue with the government’s bill of particulars, and  said this yesterday:

The following transaction was entered on 7/25/2018 at 11:35 AM EDT and filed on 7/25/2018
Case Name:     USA v. Beltran-Leyva et alCase Number: 1:09-cr-00466-BMC-RLM  Docket Text:
ORDER re: [274] Motion to Exclude as to Joaquin Archivaldo Guzman Loera. The Government should strongly consider revising its bill of particulars for Violation 85 so that it more closely reflects its order of proof at trial. Ordered by Judge Brian M. Cogan on 7/25/2018. (Clarke, Melonie)

The government wanted 5 days to respond, the judge gave them 5 days.

The following what was provided by the government is the following, click on image to enlarge:


Read about Juancho, Chapo's cousin with this link



84 comments:

  1. i can't understand one thing. can he be trialed for murder in US if the crime took place in Mexico?

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    1. I always thought no...but let me ask someone who will know...

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    2. The answer is Yes in some circumstances. BUT CHapo has not been charged with murder or any violent crime.

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    3. Chivis...can he only be charged with murder in a foreign country, if the victims are US citizens? Ie Gabriel Cardona

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    4. Look at the zeta trial in San Antonio last year . It has something to do with RICO and international organizations that stretch into the US . Yes they can be held accountable here in the US for murders they committed in Mexico

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    5. https://www.nytimes.com/1862/06/29/archives/extradition-treaty-with-mexico-by-the-president-of-the-united.html

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    6. Looked at Net Flix documentary series "Drug Lords" . Episode 5 is El Chapo . They don't paint a very flattering picture of him . Pretty much my opinion of them all no matter who they are with . Maybe that's why my comments are not taken well on here . I could execute him without a second thought and know the world is a little better for it . In some peoples eyes that makes me as bad as them . I am a gringo from the US . From here I believe the majority of the military in Mexico are doing a hard job and doing it the best they can . They are killing the holey hell out of these cartel fighters . From here it looks like a good thing . Of coarse if he was your son , it was unjust in your opinion . Teach your children well or they wont be with you long .

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    7. 10:21We have a much more modern agreement than this one . The new treaty came about while chapo was in prison the forst time . He had his run of the prison and continued to run his organization from inside . ANYTHING he wanted he had . The reason left was because of the extradition treaty .

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    8. No, that is not legal at all. USA aren't God. They think they are, but it's yet another illegal move they're making. Not surprising because they've been responsible for most of the bad stuff for the past half century, and are currently stealing oil from and committing a genocide on the people of the Middle East. Where are Reagan's, HW Bush's and Clinton's names on those drug trafficking indictments? They've been caught out 2 decades ago. Where's their big day in court?

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    9. 5:20 is RIGHT, again,
      love you buddy.

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  2. Holly s**t. Chapo wanted his nephew "Juancho" and "Guero Bastidas" dead? I remember that they found them together..."Bastidas" was part of "Los Anthrax" if i'm not wrong.

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    1. I added a link abut the murders of juancho and guero after the list of names.

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    2. Guero was collateral damage.. they gave him the option to walk away cause the beef wasn't with him but he was loyal to Virgo... Leopoldo and Hector Rios has been a secreto a voces but we all knew the order came from Chapo and Mayo.. they owed the two difuntos millions..

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    3. Chivis, the link doesn't work. It sends me to the Chicago Tribune website and look what it sais: "Unfortunately, our website is currently unavailable in most European countries. We are engaged on the issue and committed to looking at options that support our full range of digital offerings to the EU market. We continue to identify technical compliance solutions that will provide all readers with our award-winning journalism."

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    4. I am sorry. Try googling his name followed by Sinaloa. see what comes up.

      I have a feeling this was from Vicente Zambada after he struck a deal with the feds. I would not trust what he says without hard evidence. We will see what happens...

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    5. It was said juancho was working with DEA guero was along for the ride

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    6. I don't believe V Zambada or Chapo are co-operating with USA. The only confirmed ones are the cowardly Flores Sisters and possibly La Barbie.

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  3. You say "filed a motion" instead of "sent a letter."

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    1. you are half right. The gov was a letter, defense wrote both sent a reply and separately file the motion

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  4. SR Chapo we will continue to protect the plazas of CDS. We will support El SR Mayo and Ivan.I will continue to train and develop the best sicarios
    Sicario 006

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    1. You are so grounded,I'm gonna call your dad,and tell him,to ground you for a month!no xbox 1 for you😂

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    2. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂made my day this comment

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    3. 006 are you just messing around or
      Do you actually believe you are a Sicario?

      I’m serious you keep posting. Are you just messing around or do you believe what you write?

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    4. kid needs a new cod game to come out hes too bored on break! LoL

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    5. Hes obviously a troll you losers

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    6. Sicarlio 006, young lad I have some unfortunate news, Chapo was a bag man, he was heavy in drug trafficking, murders, he is in confinement, in a US prison, he has big time charges, up the washuzzie, they do not allow him to use the computer. The only thing he talkes to are, the oversize rats, that run around his cell. Sorry to tell you.

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  5. Who else but Chapo could/would order the murder of el 02 and his brother? El 02 killed by an armed group in La Tuna, his brother murdered in the state prison in Culiacan—both within 2-3 days of each other.

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    1. I heard el 02 fucked up by saying tito's beltran grandfather was gonna betray them and they killed the guy that's when tito got pissed and arrived to la tuna with his gunmen

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    2. Ernesto Guzman wasn't some chump... They are lucky Chapo didn't order the entire family wiped.. Guano is a fucking moron...

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    3. Yeah guano is like Fredo from The Godfather

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    4. A moron? He’s siding with chapito Isidro?

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  6. So they are confirming the death of JL? Of the Juarez Cartel. There was always rumors

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    1. I was wondering the same thing. I says from 2007-2009 instead of saying from 2007-2015 when the charges were filed. In my eyes, that’s a pretty good indication that JL is indeed dead.

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    2. He's been dead for yrs.

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  7. 3:49 El 02 was killed as part of guano killing one of his brothers which started the big showdown in badiraguato. Only one to die in prison was pollo long time ago.

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  8. El guero bastidas y el juancho Quisieron brincar a los a jefes por eso se dió la orden de ejecutarlos pero no fue el chapo si no gente a abajo de el pero con el permiso del chapo se logró la encomienda el Vicentillo quiso interferir ya que el guero era amigo y compadre pero la orden fue inrevesible esto lose porque trabaje conmo jefe de escoltas en Culiacán Sinaloa
    El Acá Cuarenta y Siete

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    1. Que mamada dices si vicente no podia interferir desde la prision americana. Y tanpoco le apodan vicentillo a el. No ande inventando cosas cabron.

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    2. Many wondered why these two were killed,well known in the game and close to capos,much appreciate the comments hermano

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  9. I guess i rather be quiet. I have alot of interesting knowledge from chihuas and sinaloa but i noticed these bb moderators dont like letting my comments through.
    -M.

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    1. Post your knowledge,is what BB is for,rather hear from people who know than the lying US gov

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    2. Go make your own website and have a cry over there while you're at it.

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    3. 0645 it's because you want rubbish posted. I am glad Chivis radar ,can spot unfit comments.

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    4. @7:44am indont post rubbish i dont bullshit and i dont disrespect. We are all adults here
      -M.

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  10. So they really killed Ramon Arrellano? Thought it was always just a random cop.

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    1. "Random" Cop under Mayo's Payroll. Ramon Arrellano was going the wrong way on a 1 way street in la zona dorada, in front of el hotel playa mazatlan. he gets pulled over and but he was already being followed. He himself set up a meeting with el M. Knowing Ramon, el M was already on his ass...

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  11. I wish they could do to him as many of his victims were done .

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  12. El guero andaba vendiendo jale a Los contras por eso lo chingaron...

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  13. It was always said JL was killed by his own people, but I am sure it is possible Chapo's or Mayo's people killed him in Navalato.

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    1. Jl was partying for his b day in sinaloa and his team had just blasted some contras. So jl was all cocked and drunk from partying and he wanted to hit the contras himself and showed up to where his team had them. Well a team of contras saw a bunch of ppl where they had just lost some of their fellow teammates so they sprayed that location with bullets and hit jl. Thats how i heard he died

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  14. Chapo isidro is working with el guano to fight Los chapitos. Getting interesting now

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    1. con el mayo. JAGL..

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    2. that would be crazy but interesting

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  15. JL was hunted down by a special team composed of Gente Nueva Special Forces and Antrax Black Ops.He was a formidable enemy.But my people are highly trained operatives in Krav Maga,and higly efficient assasination.They were trained by the highley Kidon elite assasins of the Mossad.
    Sicario 006

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    1. Lmao sicario 006. So who you got, Guano or chapitos?

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    2. Krav Maga is for self defense not killings formidable enemies. This is your best post yet 006. Keep them coming.

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  16. https://www.noroeste.com.mx/publicaciones/view/capta-video-la-fuga-completa-sin-que-nadie-los-detenga-1136760

    Chivis: Off topic but check out this link, may be you can give us the back story on who these guys are.

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  17. ... Chivis ... Here Is A YouTube Link To The Prison Escape In Sinaloa ... Interesting Insight To Their Escape And I'm Willing To Bet, That Is How Chapo Walked Out Of Prison The First Time ... Watch It Before It's Taken Down Like The Other Videos Today ...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W6XSONwW-qA

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    1. thank you! I would put it up but I am afraid it will got down! I went with denise's twitter. it expands pretty good.

      Very interesting....the bolsas had a little of everything...and some cocaine for the road

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  18. Hi Chivis. Hope you are well and Happy. Regarding the question of charging someone for murder in Mexico, I can explain it to some extent with my experience. In cartel cases, we usually charge RICO (Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) or CCE (Continuing Criminal Enterprise). Both are fedeal "Kingpin" statutes with the possible punishment of death or a life sentence. However, if our subject has been arrested in Mexico, we assure the GOM that we won't kill them or lock them up for life if we want them extradited because Mexico does not have those sentences yet.

    In both types of cases, we had to establish that there is a criminal organization, an identified leader and a group of subordinates that commit crimes in furtherance of the organization. Typical crimes are drug trafficking, murder and other violent acts, corruption, money laundering, extortion kidnapping and more. These are conspiracy cases and if you are a member of the organization you are responsible for all crimes they commit. Its "all for one and one for all." The other component of the prosecution are overt acts committed by the organization. These often include murders in Mexico. In all of our cases we included overt acts on both sides of the border for example The Murder of Cardinal Posadas-O'Campo in Guadalajara and The Murder of Luis Valero and Attempted Murder of Jesus Blancornelas. Both events occurred in Mexico but both events had strong ties to the US and Mexico and "affected interstate commerce," a phrase used in both kingpin statute verbiage.

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    1. Hey Steve! Thanks for the input!

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  19. Amadeo aka El Caiman was the one who killed M1 son...M1 killed em personally and put a sign on him...why is Chapo charged with that...El Caiman worked under Arturo Beltran...

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    1. At the time Arturo was CDS

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    2. Why is chapo taking the blame? The DEA falsely pinned it on him because someone snitched! Obviously someone from wants to deviate blame from the zambada side to guzman side. I wonder who?

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    3. Lololol at caimán killing M1 son

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    4. www.noroeste.com.mx/pub/141422%3famp Here's the link on that murder that M1 committed

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    5. Robert,thanks for the input on this story

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    6. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.noroeste.com.mx/publicaciones/view/dejan-2-ejecutados-frente-a-la-ss-38263%3famp might have posted wrong link earlier here's the original

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    7. Ah tá, cabrones,
      Special Counsel Roberto mueller now writing for BB,
      We are in the money now!

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    8. m1 son was killed by la empresa lady. he fucked up some of her people. they blamed it on blo to get m1 going in the war

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    9. 627
      Blow it out your ass,at least the guy has something interesting to read and puts links up.You cant do either

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  20. they saying he killed juan pablo el jl, manuel el bravo and mario nunez el m10...... woooooowwwwwwwwwwwww i didnt know that

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  21. The games the US gov is playing in this case is ridiculous,320,000 pages of documents,1000s of recordings etc,pure hearsay of murders,they take the word of real hands on killers and worse people than chapo and treat it like rock solid evidence.Using that silly video of Chapo(allegedly)interogating someone about Zetas as more evidence of his violence yet there is no violence in the video,its all hearsay treated as fact which will suffice after all the propaganda the US gov has used many times against many different targets.Chapo is no angel and he is likely sailing into the sunset but dont say the US gov upholds truth and justice,it does what it likes when it likes.Why dont they charge Chapo with the death of Tupac and Kennedy ?

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    1. I am sorry to inform you, but Chapo has overwhelming evidence, not only by paper, but video and audio, along with witnesses. I know what I tell you won't sink in to your head. You do the crime you pay the time.

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    2. Err thanks for enlightening me about evidence,i really thought Chapo was innocent of ALL crime,in fact,entirely innocent of anything(this is called sarcasm)just in case you take it literally(again)

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    3. 556 if you're hoping Chapo will be out, your dreaming, like the guy says, get it thru your head.

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      "if you're hoping Chapo will be out, your dreaming, like the guy says, get it thru your head"
      There really are some morons on here,sarcasm flies right over their heads.I dont know how Chivis and the rest put up with these fuckin balloon heads.Its unbelievable the shit they write and believe?

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  22. Chapo is doomed,evidence or no evidence,one thing for sure,he must be a hardcore little fucker,he is doing hard time,the US gov is making sure of it.Shady shit by the good ol US and its experts

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  23. En el negocio si tu propia gente te quiebra es por chapulin (brincarte gente de tu grupo o brincarte de equipo) traicionar tu gente entregar tu gente a la ley o enemigos,hablar de mas de asuntos que no debes, robar feria o merca, hacerte pendejo y no pagar mercanciameterte en broncas con familiares o viejas de otros vatos mafiosos o matarle gente estimada a algun pesado. A y tambien por envidias.

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    1. Se te olvidó decir lo más importante sobre todo eso. Cuando los patrones se les entra lo CULO y no quieren pagar lo que deben. De allí viene la mayoría de las broncas. Se les va a la cabeza sus ganancias y creen que todas se las saben. Por eso empiezan las traiciones. La gente no se voltea no más así de un día para otro sin razones. Todo tiene su porque. No más que muchos no cuentan lo que nos les conviene. - Sol Prendido

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  24. El Chapo is a dead man. The American's will never let him escape. If he does do time and is released back in Mexico he will be gunned down just like griselda blanco. The hit was carried out by the CIA because she was running her mouth about how much she hates America. If they don't do it publicly they will give el chapo cancer they have taken out many latin american leaders that opposed them with cancer causing agents.

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      Are they the ones who injected Easy E with AIDS?
      "kill chapo with cancer causing agents"
      I dont know i really dont,couldnt make this shit up

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  25. 2:49 . Doing time in the us don't make him a badass . The fact is he has no choice . During his incarceration this time he seems to be a whiney little fucker . Has been a cry baby all the way . Be glad when he is done and settle in for the rest of his short life . unintentional pun there . I liked it so I left it

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    1. Dont know how many here have even been in a cell,never mind prison,there are diferent ways they can make you do it,maybe if you knew you would understand

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