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Wednesday, April 4, 2018

English Translation of New Rafael Caro Quintero Interview 2018

Chivis Martinez for Borderland Beat Translation by Un Vato


Interview of Rafael Caro Quintero (CQ) by Anabel Hernandez (AH)/div>

Exclusive Borderland Beat Translation

AH:    In October of 2017, the DEA issued a report titled “National Drug Threat Assessment” that states that after the arrest and extradition of Joaquin “Chapo” Guzman and the arrest of Damaso Lopez Nunez, Ismael “Mayo” Zambada and you, Rafael Caro Quintero,  are now the leaders of the Sinaloa Cartel, also known as the Pacific Cartel.



CQ:     I don’t belong to any cartel and, as I have previously told you, I am not going back into drug trafficking.

AH:     So, what have you been doing, Mr. Caro Quintero?

CQ:     What do you mean?

AH:     What are your current activities?

CQ:     Nothing. Just living right for something I already paid for.

AH:     What do you do to survive?

CQ:    I’ll show up wherever they will feed me. I have no money, so I’m always struggling to survive.

AH:     I’ll ask you again: Are you now one of the leaders of the Pacific Cartel?

CQ:     Whoever is saying that is lying, and they need to prove it, and the Mexican government knows that I am speaking the truth.

AH:     Even of the DEA says that you now have equal authority as Mayo Zambada.

CQ:     The DEA is lying.

AH:     (The DEA) says that both of you are trafficking drugs through Phoenix and distributing them to other parts of the United States.

CQ:     Whoever says that is lying! Whoever says that is lying! I don’t care who is saying that, they’re lying. I don’t care who it is.

AH:     What would be the reason for these lies? Why would the DEA have published a report like this, putting your photograph there…

CQ:     I don’t know, I don’t know! I am not the leader of any cartel.

AH:     Here’s the report accusing you…

CQ:     Yes, yes…but I have not gone back into drug trafficking and I am never going back. And those things they are saying, whoever is saying that, they’re lying. Whether it’s Sajid (Quintero, RCQ's cousin use this link to read J's post about him  and this link), or whoever is telling the DEA  that, they are lying.

AH:     Why do you think they’re accusing you, what would be the reason for that?

CQ:     This is something I do not understand, I don’t understand.

AH:   There’s information that you are smuggling cocaine from Colombia to the U.S. through Guatemala, and that you smuggle it to the U.S. via Sonora and take it to Chicago.

CQ:     I would ask the DEA to be more careful. They are lies. The Mexican government, too. If they can show evidence of these things, I’ll turn myself in. But I’m not going to turn myself in as an informant. I’m going to surrender like a man, like what I am, to show my face for something I did But I’m never going to turn myself in because I haven’t done anything.

AH:     In August of 2016, in September, October, in different parts of Mexico, for example, in the State of Chihuahua, there were “mantas” and posters being put up that said that you and Chapo  were local (crime) bosses.

CQ:     Look, they say that I’m working in several states, a lot of people are using my name. I don’t know the majority of these people. Then, what do you want me to do? I am not working, I want to make that very clear. I was a drug trafficker 23 years ago, but I am no longer one, and I’ll never be one again. If other people use my name, what can I do to shut them up? I cannot go out here and tell them, “Shut up, don’t use my name.” Or should I start killing people to shut them up?

            (Screen script: How does the DEA’s most wanted fugitive live?)

AH:     After the DEA report in October, after this past November, the Director of the Federal Police, Manelich Castilla, said that the capture of Rafael Caro Quintero was a priority for the Mexican government. Are they looking for you, Rafael?

CQ:     Well, if you’re asking me whether they are pursuing me, yes they are.

AH:     Have there been operations organized against you?

CQ:     Yes, of course. And very heavy operations.

AH:     What do you mean? What has happened?

CQ:     Very heavy operations by all the governments. So I ask myself, when will it end? When? And why?

AH:     What has happened in these operations?

CQ:     Well, all sorts of atrocities, persecution, a lot of pain, many things. Now, I would tell that person who is saying those things about me to be more careful.

AH:     Are they wasting their time looking for the wrong man?

CQ:     Not the wrong man, because that is my name and I exist. But I am not a drug trafficker. How can I explain to them? How? I am not a drug trafficker. I was one and I paid for that. Leave me alone.

AH:     Rafael, what does it feel like to be the Number 1 fugitive of the DEA? How do you live when you’re the man most wanted by the DEA, the most important anti-drug agency…?

CQ:     I want them to leave me alone, I already paid,  that’s what I would tell them.

AH:     How do you live, Rafael?

CQ:   A very difficult situation, without a family, without anything. I have a hard time with everything.

AH:     For example, during these holidays, like Christmas, which just ended, how…?

CQ:     My mother is in the hospital with pneumonia, I’m not able to call her, to talk to her, to do anything. It’s sad. 

AH:     Your wife, Diana. Your son?

CQ:     I don’t know anything about them.

AH:     You can’t see them?

CQ:     No, I cannot see them.

AH:     Your other relatives, your other children?

CQ:     I can’t see them, either.

AH:     How did you get by during the holidays, Christmas and New Year’s?

CQ:     It was hard, very hard.

AH:     Alone?

CQ:     Alone, alone.

(Screen script: Amnesty for narcos in Mexico. Next July, if he’s elected president, the leftist candidate, AMLO, has proposed amnesty for drug traffickers to put an end to drug trafficking and violence.)

AH:     Do you think the leaders of the cartels would accept this? Do you think this would stop the violence here in Mexico?

CQ:     Well, I could not tell you to what extent this would work, but why don’t they try it?  Colombia did it. I don’t know of another country. But Colombia? Yes, they did it. I became aware of it because I was in prison and I watched it on TV. A lot of people turned themselves in. Why doesn’t Mexico try it? Not that I’m saying… I’m not anybody to give orders. I can’t say, “Do it.” Right now I’m a fugitive, unfortunately.

AH:     Do you think the people in Mexico believe in your innocence?

CQ:     Well, that’s their problem, not mine. I am telling the truth.

AH:     Why is it important for people to believe you? Since you were released from prison you have said repeatedly that you’re innocent, that you’re not a drug trafficker. Why is it important to you for the Mexican people to believe you? Why, Rafael?

CQ:     Look, what I really want is for them to leave me along. Then, if the public opinion wants to believe that I’m innocent, well, good. But if not, I respect that. They’ll believe what they want to believe. But I want them to talk to me, not to somebody else. And the Mexican government and the DEA should do a clean job.

AH:     What do you want, Rafael?

CQ:     For them to leave me alone and to tell the truth, don’t be lying about me. And if it’s Sajid or not, or somebody else, they are lying. I’ll say it again.

AH:     And you are not the new leader of the Pacific Cartel?

CQ:     No, man! I’ve never been the boss, not even in my own house! Look, it even hurts me when they say it.

AH:     Does it still hurt?

CQ:     Of course. I live with pain because of the injustices committed by the government, of one side or the other. But that’s the way it is, what are we going to do? ...BB2018



Note:  The video we used for the translation was taken down by Youtube, due to third party complaints infringement rights against the poster .  We substitute that video with this is the Proceso production which is the long version with info apart from the face to face interview.  

79 comments:

  1. Poor grampa says is not a leader of a Cartel.

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    1. Grampa or not. He was and is bigger, stronger more powerful and better respected than you’ll ever be. @9:37
      I don’t believe he is a capo anymore. Think they bosses have him a small cell so he can make a living. That’s all

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    2. That poor little old man! Life sounds really tough for him at every turn.

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    3. Stronger and more powerful? Not more than me. I don't have to hide.

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    4. 2:59 you posted as anonymous so yes you hide too .just like alot of us here

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    5. 5:42 I have the luxury not to if I wish something Quintero does not. Hence, why I wrote "*have* to hide". Quintero *has* to hide. I don't.

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    6. @10:58.
      Well I promise you one thing. That old man would never hide from you.
      And you would hide from him. So yea. He’s still more powerful. He would laugh at the fact that you hide behind a screen because you wanna add your two cents on a subject you have zero sense about. That’s unicorn and cupcake shit.

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    7. 9:44 Are you so sure? One on one I would never hide from him, he'll run from me. I promise you that. When you've lost the luxury of being free you're not powerful.

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  2. Soo.. This must be the "Pre-torture" video I guess ??

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  3. El Numero 1...So Rafa has the resources to evade major operations but is not working? That seems odd, Mayo probably put out the word to allow Rafa to be Numero 1 on the street to reduce pressure on the real bosses.

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    1. You sinaloenses are idiots biggest rats in the game no wonder the government tells you what to do

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    2. This is most likely true, everyone is focused on mencho and caro. Mayo is loving this.

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    3. @ 10:38 AM/ RCQ always had an organization and operations running throughout his whole prison tenure.. He got released either by mistake or through corruption(most likely corruption)..once out he had a few meetings with chapo and mayo about getting back into the game and wanted routes and protection which he felt he rightfully was owed..chapo and mayo both declined and suggested RCQ retire..well RCQ didnt want to hear that from chapo and mayo so he turned to El Mencho..The first meeting Mencho laughed at RCQ to his face and told him to "fuck off"..its not known exactly when but about 8 months after RQC release he and his organization went from a small,steady family organization that he had maintained all throughout his prison tenure to all of a sudden having an organization with a State wide presence in Jalisco retail sales with Guadalajara being his organizations main area of influence..like i said its not exactly known how RCQ was able to acquire a group big enough to have a presence throughout a State but it most likely happened with El Mencho's blessing..
      either way by 2016 RCQ was well entrenched in the business and on good terms with almost every major cartel figure in mexico.. when chapo was arrested for the 2nd time in jan of 2016 the sinaloa cartel slowly started to fragment and by early 2017 was in an all out war. The Chapitos & Mayo Factions were fighting with Damaso Lopez/Mini Lic Faction .. After a failed set up on Mayo and the Chapitos was when el mayo asked RCQ to join the Sinaloa Cartel..RCQs group played a big part in damaso lopez and mini lic's downfall which isnt talked about too much..but the work he put in once he teamed up with el mayo & the chapitos added with the new routes & protection that came along with joining the sinaloa cartel shot him right past el mayo to the Top spot..as of 2018 RCQ is the complete leader of the sinaloa cartel with el mayo in his usually number 2 spot..The Chapitos run their fathers faction..RCQ also played a big part in getting ivan and alfredo freed when they got kidnapped..el mencho was the one who gave the order to kidnap them and RCQ along with mayo had long talks to get them released..chapo(from prison in mexico) also gave the "okay" to give mencho a few tunnels and a submarine..once the chapitos and a few others were released everyone involved in the group of kidnappers was killed..

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    4. @12:07. You don’t know what the fuck your talking about. That information has so many holes and misleading information that it shouldnt be allowed on wiki. Just cause you read a lot of Cartel news doesn’t mean you have the slightest real intelligence on the subject.

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    5. "a few tunnels and a submarine." LOL where do these people get this nonsense? You should be a fiction writer with all that bs you made up.

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    6. Pretty well spot on...I believe Mayo has semi retired. I think it's all set.
      Mayo has billions. RCQ had stuff moving in jail, but he was a weed guy. He was locked up by the time yayo and chiva took over as their cash crops. RCQ needs to make money fast. And I think there was allot more going on in that meeting besides the Kids from both sides. I think it was all divided up right then. Notice it still isn't CJNG vs CDS head on??? There's always static among cells, even from same org. Those are the guys getting cut up, and guiso'd. But you can bet, if at true war one of those cats would've already been on YouTube. JMO

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    7. @12:09 please put the pipe down and get some sleep you are talking complete nonsense

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    8. 5:11 coke and chiva have been the cash crop for many generations for cds and even cartel de Guadalajara.. I thought you knew this Grande.. That's always been the cash crop, if anything he's new to the Crystal meth.. There is a cjng war against cds, don't believe it? just go to colima or Tijuana and even in Michoacan and veracruz the cds are funding cells to try and stop cjng rapid growth..

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    9. 12:09 That is the real deal, except cjng got cash money and plazas for those chapitos, Mencho has some big huevos to do that...

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    10. Chapo str8 up told mencho Al stylo sinaloa ojo por ojo mencho got slapped by mayo and el menchito spiit on by police under chapos pay roll like it or not mencho shit his pants and let the chapitos free (Saludos chivis) your #1 fan

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    11. 6:25 con mi vieja no te metas,
      La Chiva no es ninguna cash crop.

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    12. RCQ was a pot farmer..back in those days they moved coke and chiva for Colombians. But pot was the cash crops. The meth and heroin fentynal all got hotter after pot legalization. I don't think anyone e got slapped down at that meeting. I think the big cats all.divided up the big pie. And I believe there was gov involved from.both sides of border. Everyone knew where that meeting was, and who was there. Drone strike would've ended it all...But there wasn't one....Much like when El.Padrino went down....it all got divied up. Chapo went....same thing. The big cats know there's enough to go around...it's the street guys fighting.

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    13. Don't kid yourself Grande, you always claim you know alo t but if you did you would know cartels from Mex got big because of coke, marijuana doesn't make billions

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    14. Grande you don't know what you're talking about bro, you fooled us into thinking u did. You just lost all credidibililty

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    15. The billions came later....the Mexicans we're transporters. Then they started getting paid in coke..this was late 80's after the Colombians lost the Florida Carribean...but Caro made his nut in pot 1st..meth was hillbilly dope until 20 yrs ago...Chiva was a West coast thing. There was no Mexican Heroin in the east until the last ten to 15...Do your math...Caro was long gone by the time they made the switch. I'm not saying they didn't move coke. But it wasn't until early 90's when Mexicans made the coke their #1. Facts.

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    16. Don Neto and El Pablote Acosta loved their basuco, they were competiting heavily with the Colombia-Cuba-Florida cartel and the islands of Carlos Lehder already.
      --The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Epidemic was exposed on the west coast forareason.

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    17. 2:15 that is true, but the real money came a bit later when they no longer had to compete. They were it. Look at Sinaloa now....setting up for production...they are looking to be everyone's supplier.

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    18. Grande took all his info, almost word for word, from Wikipedia.

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    19. Funny...I've never read a single Wikipedia...jaja Just my opinions my friend. Agree or not, but when one resorts to ATTEMPTS at ridiculing, and or berating someone for stating an opinion is exactly what's wrong with this world. Peace to you and yours.

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  4. And old school capo el numero 1 this man is legend de la noria Sinaloa de Respeto y palabra leave him alone el ya pago doesn't owe anything to anybody

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    1. He's#4 Mencho#1 and mayo#2 things have changed play boy

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    2. Don Pedro Avilés knew how great and honest Felix gallardo, Don Neto and Caro quintero were, they murdered him to steal the business,
      Later Don 'chuyiro' Labra Avilés had a chance to work tijuas with the Arellano Felix, their mother was his wife's sister but don chuyito had nothing to do with El Gitano Pedro Avilés either,
      --like Amado carillo fuentes, Don Neto and Mexican Judicial Federal Police Commander Guillermo Gonzalez Calderoni had nothing to do with the FBI attack on Ojinaga and the murder of Pablo Acosta Villarreal that left DFS commander Rafael Aguilar guajardo as boss of the cartel de juarez until Amado lo mando a chingar a su madre.
      All a series of unfortunate coincidences.

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  5. I'm from Chicago born and raised to Haitian parents i understand the struggle of the streets Sinaloa man are some brave guys who don't fear anybody like the goons in my city we all just trying to survive

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    1. Lmao no you're not bro you're just a cheerleader. If anything you're the same guy that claims he's from Russia and that all sinaloa men are brave warriors lmao cayate

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  6. Imagine el mayo giving a video interview omg it will be scary seeing that Sinaloa gallo

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    1. He already gave an interview tonto, El mayo is not that ruthless and that's why he's still not captured. Chapo probably made him shit his pants a few times just like Mencho in la paz

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  7. than you chivis for the translation! i was wondering what he was saying in that video...

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    1. All words of gratitude goes to our former reporter "Un Vato" who says he burned the midnight oil for Chivis in translating. He is the best most meticulous translator I know.

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    2. " Un Vato "
      The translations are most appreciated dude,it all helps even with people who can speak and understand a little.
      Thanks for the time and work

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    3. big shoutout for "Un Vato"...you did a good job!

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    4. Gracias to "Un Vato" for another excellent translation!

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    5. Well, Chivis, good for you, I found strange that YOU would bother posting anything Anabel Hernandez, she is cute and smart but sometimes she gets the Olympic Oscar for her cagazones.

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  8. Annabel Hernandez, perpetual defender of the cartel de Sinaloa.

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    1. What? She wrote a whole book accusing them of much of the problems facing Mexico..stop spreading lies.

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  9. I bet he's still in the game but denying it like when he killed camarena, sounds like my girlfriend when I caught her cheating lol no no and no

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  10. He should turn himself in. Then he won't have to worry about evading the police.

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  11. I just heard a corrido from him in the radio saying he's as bad as before and still running s!t.. Does this idiot think DEA doesn't listen to corridos for information?

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  12. @10:38 it's not so hard to avoid capture from major operations... simply don't have a phone or other electronics,don't tell people where u live,no social media, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't have credit cards or bank account under his name...lol Simple as that especially for an old man like him

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    1. 2:27 Yeah, yeah, El pinchi rafagas, nomas trai una targeta pagada de OXXO pa Los frutsis y Los gansitos

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  13. Thanks for the tranlation, very interesting!

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  14. They need to get this old son of a bitch or kill him or something

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  15. Lágrimas de cocodrilo diría yo. This guy is a real killer and now he wants people to think otherwise.

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  16. How true is it that Rafael’s family has businesses all over MX?
    If true could he be trying to go legit or just a front for money laundering?

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    1. 8:03 billions of dollars in Swiss banks nobody ever touched,
      Because the ol' boy took it like a 'ma'm' on her feet, and didn't sing about the family business, CIA FAMIGLIA COSA NOSTRA.
      He did not get chicharra up the ass, nobody fought like a bitch for his extradition, and he got his first warden "mister Mean" at the Altiplano murdered in the cafeteria of the University of Pachuca, expert jurist and prison visionary, Dr. Pablo de Tavira
      Back when MAO osorio chin was just a university porro and de Tavira could not find useful employment because he was black balled everywhere...that how helpless poor rafita was in prison and is now as a free man.
      The US warrant is just a show for the deluded and the misled, his son was an equestrain competitor in the China Olympiad, imagine the connects?

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  17. Plausible deniability. No different than any politician. - Sol Prendido

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    1. Yay! My man Sol Prendido is back!

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    2. Welcome back sol missed you buddy

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    3. Saludos guys. El Bulldog I’m assuming you’ve been staying down range.- Sol Prendido

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    4. T:28 I think you guys should get a room, definiterly.

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  18. There's no way this guy didn't have millions put away, or had made members of his family very rich, who's currently taking care of him, that's why they cant even find him , if he was poor broke and struggling then he wouldn't have the cash or power to stay in hiding, he's probably living in a mansion.

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  19. That was an interesting interview. He is an old man, surely even if he is not involved so he says, he is being taken care of out of respect, and hidden.

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  20. Thank you un vato for the Translation. Great Job.
    I dont belive him. He is back in Business. Thats all he has learned and some in his live.

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  21. Interview is interesting but you have to go more by what isn't said rather than what is. Is this man still in the game? Probably. Is he as powerful as the other bosses? Probably not. Who knows for sure?

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    1. Exactly! As s wise person once said, if you speak less, you will hear more. It's what's in between the lines that needs to be broken down. His nervousness and early nod in agreement before she finishes the question is what makes me doubtful of him. He's a professional criminal. With that comes a skill in manipulation and toying with words. Skilled negotiator at its finest right here !!! I don't believe a word he's saying.

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  22. When he said he has no money lol must meant his balance is under a billion $$

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  23. I definitely lost a great deal of respect for AH after this "interview"...

    I thought she was smarter than this, but then again, what if she is part of the same corruption she is damning?

    RCQ: I have no money, so I’m always struggling to survive.

    LOL........

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    1. As if your respect was needed. Repoters report, stupid. They are not there to tow any kind of narrative or skew the facts to make you feel better. They are here to show you what is going on in the world. Warts and all.

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  24. If someone remembers the Iran contra controversy and all the things that was uncovered the CIA was doing in South America you know that Rafa was working for the CIA back then . They were using him as a middle man and using his ranch to train Contras . He will never be caught because he's still a CIA darling because he never spilled the beans . He is right about not killing Camarena . Camerana uncovered some things and couldn't stay quiet.

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  25. Funny he mentioned his nephew Sajid, whom just turned himself in recently. I wonder if Maybe he’s worried the nephew is spilling the beans for a lighter sentence, perhaps? Why the PR tour I wonder...

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  26. RCQ is living in a mud hut any fool who thinks he lives a luxurious lifestyle is on glue

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  27. So he is being fed by community lunch programs? With his fame and face familiar to thousands. Doubt that he can just walk up to any food charity without being noticed.
    Clearly he has money! Save the sympathy and pity for those who have truly lack marbles.
    I cannot give my assumption to his involvement of drug trafficking. But can give you odds as for his financial standpoint.

    Interesting piece of sympathy propaganda.
    Forgot to cry a river for your supporters!

    E42

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    1. "Clearly he has money!I cannot give my assumption to his involvement of drug trafficking"
      Genius absolute genius

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  28. “CQ: Look, they say that I’m working in several states, a lot of people are using my name. I don’t know the majority of these people. Then, what do you want me to do? I am not working, I want to make that very clear. I was a drug trafficker 23 years ago, but I am no longer one, and I’ll never be one again. If other people use my name, what can I do to shut them up? I cannot go out here and tell them, “Shut up, don’t use my name.” Or should I start killing people to shut them up?”

    Caro straight sending a message, couldn’t be more clear.

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  29. E42 - Totally agree!

    Phelpso

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  30. This idiot says hes not in the drug trade then why the hell would u have big bands playing ur corridos.. danm sinaloa and there vanity is what took em down.

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