Thursday, May 18, 2017

Soldiers ask to return to barracks, they are tired of capturing criminals that are later set free

Translated by Otis B Fly-Wheel for Borderland Beat from a Proceso article

Subject Matter: Impunity
Recommendation: No prior subject matter knowledge required


Reporter: Juan Alberto Cedillo
Soldiers deployed to Tamaulipas sent a letter that manifests their desire to return to barracks because "we are fed up of the fight against sicarios".

In the last few days has emerged a scandal that involves the armed forces in the field of human rights, signalled a missive that circulated in social networks, and detailed that the military are tired of this narco war in which they capture criminals, who are short time later set free, " because the authorities are not doing their job".

"We are tired of seeing our colleagues ambushed in a cowardly way and that no authority, organization or government department or human rights do anything about it".




Constantly, it said in the letter, we lose colleagues in this war, and although that should not be a cause for revenge, it always leaves us in pain, the pain of seeing brothers fall and that nobody does anything about it, because we are the ones who lose comrades to the hit men.

There are, he adds, those who are fighting against criminals to safeguard society, because the police are infiltrated by organized crime.

"We are the ones who fight, not the defenders of human rights, not the members of a government organization that accuses us of the worst things, and not you who complain about our work from the comfort of your own homes."

"Infantrymen say they have lost comrades who were kidnapped on their days off and tortured to death. They have killed the families of our comrades in retaliation, do you not think that hurts us?", he asked.

He alluded to the nine soldiers who were kidnapped in the metropolitan zone of the State capital and later appeared cut up.

The letter mentioned that a violation of human rights on the part of the military is well known and must not be covered up.

"However, this does not justify the actions of our brothers in arms, I will only say the following and it is at the discretion of society; We want the country to be better, and if to achieve this we must die or do something bad in life, we will accept the cost, but do not cheapen our sacrifice."

"We have taken drastic measures to combat evil, but if it hurts so much that we violate the human rights of the "innocent hit men", then do your job."

In their text, the military also condemned the double morals of society; "Let us return to the barracks, so that they may have the confidence that no one will touch a hair on the hit men's heads, if they love their criminals that much, stay with them and don't come begging on your knees for something to be done".

"We want to see how long the country lasts without a soldier leaving his mother in the mountains and containing this evil."

"But if our actions are indignant, do not forget that when the operation was difficult and dangerous, we never said no and we never took a step backwards, because many of us believe in that, and we are here only to have a chance to change the country for the better".

Original article in Spanish at Proceso

94 comments:

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    1. Mexicans more welcome in U.S. then the likes of @9:53 all day son.

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    2. Liberals love to act as everything is fine and dandy here.

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    3. BB why did you let this comment slip thru?

      @ 953

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    4. Excuseme, Mexican patriotism is a farce? How dare you? What was the good old U.S of A fought in the last 50 years that meant something for it's people? That actually fought for a legitimate reason? That actually protected something meaning full? Oil? Opium? I'm sorry sir, with all due respect, you are very ignorant. And yes illegals have rights in the good old U.S of A, the constitution of the good old U.S of A l, reads.. WE THE PEOPLE, not WE THE CITIZENS. Mexico definitely needs a wall, but why isn't Trump building it? We need a wall to keep all of you white racist drug addicts, child abusers, from poisening our land. With your high demand for drugs, because guess what? It's called supply and demand, no demand no supply. Again get your facts straight sir.. lastly think of all the sanctuary city's.. there is no peace in stolen land.. remember that!

      U.T.B

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    5. BB- it is disappointing that you let a comment through, then erase it and leave all of the other comments in response. This discussion makes no sense now....

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    6. Why is it that the media does not say the truth on how many Mexicans soldiers are really killed.

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    7. 9:53 I remember your brain dead comment very well. Net migration of Mexicans to the u.s is 0. More are leaving then staying. In fact Mexicans were in the SW United States before it was even a country. Can you please remind me what the government did to the natives here? Latinos bring alot to this country. Lil Village in Chicago brings the 2nd highest tax revenue to the city other then the magnificent mile. Which is downtown and full of high end stores. You go to mx neighborhoods, and you see alot of stores. No matter how run down the area is. Ive been to cities in TX,NV,CA,IN,MI and you see small/big hispanic stores and alot. You really won't see us begging for money on corners. I'm sure there's some, but were here to work not handouts. We're pumping billions into the economy that we wont see back. Its helping support the 800bases worldwide the U.S has around the world. MX national debt is under 500billion, the U.S is what 17trillion? Might want to rethink which nation is poorer. You called MX soldiers cowards, but there fighting to make MX a better place and arnt halfway across the world pissing people off. My respect to our troops and vets.The best thing about the U.S is everyone IS welcome and can prosper with hard work. Contrary to the joke of a president we have. I know plenty of Americans and I guarantee they were embarrassed by your stupidity and you definitely dont represent them. You're ideas are outdated and stupid. Have a good life now that I treated your ass.

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    8. 4:57 the mexican government can't let people know they are geting black eyes and getting beat up black and blue, they want it known they will avenge their stupid loses on anybody whenever they want to.

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    9. The mexican army works for the politicos and keep them in power, they dnvt have any right to cry wolf or claim to be anybody's victim, they have the means to take action against their government oppressors, don't bother writing to the mexican pekple, we are too busy suffering your governing elders' missteps, mamadas, abuses of power and pendejadas.

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  2. This is the best news I've read here in a long long time, no doubt about it! Who ever these soldiers are my heart and love goes out to them big time. Mexico needs a civil war and in this civil war a lot lot of people will and should be placed in prison for many many years and a lot of people will and probably should die for their crimes against humanity. Starting from the very top! This is real news!!! This is MEXICO!!!

    What is amazing and NUTS to me is how I read a lot of the comments here and its like this is some sort of joke a game of gangs and criminals and drugs..

    If you're Mexican YOU OUTTA BE A FUCKING SHAMED OF YOU'RE COUNTRY!!!!!!!! Don't even point you're fingers up NORTH because its a lot bigger and worse than only selling drugs to the gringos.

    The Military outta take complete control of the government and be at the head for as long as it takes to turn this country on its fucking head and re-write every fucking law and policy civil, social, economic, the justice system etc etc.

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    1. A soldier stays put until ordered to go anywhere. Sad to say it but the general and joint chief of staff are in control. So if they want to let drugs or money go by they'll just order the soldiers to stay put like a dog.

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    2. Mister prieto, for the last 200 years most LatinAmerican countries have enjoyed the glorious and delightful feeling of being ruled by MANY MANY MANY MILITARY JUNTAS, made of gorillas to the point of being called "banana republics".
      It all just led to thus and and thousands of reports of hman rights abuses massacres and genocide against the humblest of tamerican continent indians and poorest farmers, old people, women boys and girls victims of rape, murder and famine...
      You want more military only because you ignore the historical facts, probably because.you just don't know, but try and educate yourself, there are thousands of reports and testimonies in the world wide web.
      And stop opening your yapper to bite yourself on the ass.

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  3. Military coup in the works?

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    1. Revamp the whole Military in Mexico!

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  4. A nice article. Words are the hero for this. When a criminal forgets himself being a human, why the hell army should consider a criminal as human and defend his stupid rights. What does the human rights he should have when it's not available to a common man. Its not that difficult to wear army dress and torture civilians so as to bring bad reputation to army and portray that cartels are lesser evils than army, in the minds of citizen. Inhuman acts by army maybe there, but we shouldn't undermine their sacrificing will for the sake of country. Mexico needs total restructuring right from the top till to bottom.

    Thamizhan

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    1. The problem is not that the aguacates of the marinelas kill bad guys, the problem is that they kidnap, extort, torture, murder INNOCENT PEOPLE, and that too many times the bad guys they murder did not commit crimes punishable with death penalty and that they were their partners too, like Comandante Toro, murdered after he paid millions of dollars, and the obvious aversion and contempt of the melitary for due process.
      If extra-judiciary murdering is so necessary, put it on the mexican constitution, they have the votes, instead of on the hands of illiterate soldiers that barely finished grade school.

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  5. Can anyone comment on the reasons why so many arrested narcos are set free? I understand that Mexico has a very low conviction rate and impunity is rampant. But why would judges all over the country set sicarios and other dangerous people free so often, is it primarily corruption, or poor case work?

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    1. The answer is GREED. In Mexico money talks and bullshit walks. Money can buy you anything in Mexico...drugs, sex, liberty etc. A never ending list. I truly feel sorry for the soldiers who risk their lives to apprehend the criminals only to see them set free. Now, ask yourselves why many criminals are killed on the spot when apprehended?

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    2. For fear of their and their loved ones lives?

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    3. It's time Mexican military need take over the government

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    4. 10:14 OVERPOPULATED prisons that's why!

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    5. 10:14; antiquated legislative and judicial systems that are derived from classical law (Greek, Roman, and French). Unlike USA law there are almost non-existent checks and bounds that leads to impunity within the legislative and judicial when they set criminales go. As long as there is impunity from excessive use / improper interpretation of the law there will be a minority that will give in to corrupcion.
      With that said it is sadly overlooked how many heroes do not give in to corrupcion and have known they were choosing the bullet by saying no to the bribe.

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    6. How didn't chapo get caught so many times though? Obviously money talks but chapo had so much power and money, how did he not buy his way out of capture the last time?

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    7. 5:29 overpopulated prisons are full of people that can't pay their 1 000.00 peisos fines, for pissing on the sidewalk and shit like that, there is no bonding out in mexico, unless you have millions of pesos or wanna leave your Rolex until you come back and pay your fine, no need to see the judge.

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    8. In mexico it is everybody for himself, only the oligarcia can afford to pay their private security guards, if you wanna get ahead in poolitics you need to pay for your upgrade every step of the way.
      On the US millionaires and billionaires reserve the right to do the trickstering that made their fortunes for them in the first place, generals and politicians can access their funds only after they retire or change careers, and pray not to get caught in the process, that why they are "sooo religious".and careful not to disappoint their paymasters, of course, it is all painted with respectability, until the special prosecutors get on their ass...
      then they get outed for what they are: CROOKS.

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  6. Words if a brave soldier.
    Go ahead.shot First ask later and fuck up these bastards

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    1. Great letter unnamed soldier. So soldado aur la escribio se avento. Lests see if anyone ales a corridor out of it. Of course not. They only glorify the evil. Nothing fancy about leaving your family to protect the weak the corrupt the complacent ones without knowing when and if you will return. And guess what. Mexico doesn't pay their soldiers for PTSD. Real honorable men. Hombres reales!!!
      Esos son chingones Arriba Los soldados, y marinos Mexicanos!!

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  7. The problem with catching those "criminals" is that they where never captured during the act of committing a crime! More often than not these people captured be them cartel members or not are captured in stash houses and or just driving around with weapons in hand and nothing to actually prove that they commited any major crime other than safeguarding drugs and carrying illegal weapons respectively. Those people will eventually do very little time in already overcrowded prisons and will be released. I'm in no way intentionally diminishing the efforts put out by some members of these armed forces who wish to do good for their country but it is a bitch trying to do this noble service if you capture people in these situations.

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    1. Just kill the SOB. Their mother don't want

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    2. @2:36 that is not what you say or said while you where getting high on shit in the past. You probably still get high. Why does BB even allow stupid comments like this all because some idiot is just as bad as the cartel memebers and the only solution he has is to kill anyone???

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  8. This soilders also rape young girls and woman of course they try to act victim

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    1. Same old BS heard in nam

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    2. there are bad apples in every bunch but you'll find a lot/most just want to make Mexico safe.

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    3. Your probably the type who root for el chapo,imagine how much worse Mexico would be without these soldiers,marine.
      Root for law and order nor criminality

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    4. The bad apples have corrupted th whole barrel, don't complain about the mexican people, summariy try your mandos, or what, no hay huevos?

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    5. Soldiers don't rape women. men rape women. The soldiers don't rape because they are soldiers they rape because they are men and are weak. Im sure american soldiers rape women too. Hoeever in the USA they are covered by the PTSD blanket/ label. The soldiers do their best with what they have. And yes men that are soldiers rape women but had they not been soldiers those men would still be rapists. Don't bunch em all together. There are some bad apples in the bunch but overall the soldiers put it all on the line for very little. Think that is what the point of this article is.

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    6. "The point" misses the target, rapist soldiers do what they do because their weapons and uniforms help it, and their officers protect them. There are thousands of testimonies about soldiering, many of them from experts on the field, like Ronald L Haeberle, My Lai Photographer, or My Lai reporter Seymour "Sy" Myron Hersh that put the story on the news.
      Don't believe me or one disgruntled mexican soldier, research it yourself, google it, wiki, youtube, etc etc etc.

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  9. This is a good article I notice that this is happening in many parts of the U.S but its not the military but with the police. A lot of mayates, cholos, criminal paisas, white trash, etc infesting what use to be nice towns an cities only to turn them to shit. Crime is up and the police can only do so much before they are released back to the streets by the DA and bullshit laws that protect these scumbags. I read on here that they been killing a lot of journalists in Mexico. So do these pieces of shit want only fake news to be reported and the truth to remain untold? Sounds like the censorship part of the 1984 novel.

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    1. 11:00 Cholos, winos, garbage pickers, orange vendors, tamaleros or car washing "drug traffickers" do not kill reporters, simply because reporters rarely report on them...
      No sea pendejo mijo.

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    2. @4:14 PM. Ever wonder who killed the 106 journalist killed since 2000, and 1/2 that number "disappeared". Were they killed because they were reporting on the garden club meeting or reporting there was a sewer leak on Medero Ave?

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    3. Pendejo tu 414 u know what kind if people im talking about not the hard working people of course but animals who roam the streets commiting crimes idiota

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    4. O:10 one example of blacking out the news, the moreiros own all the media in coahuila, narcos news was suppressed since they took power there.
      Ankther, javier duarte de ochoa, enforced his demands to not to badmouth his beloved state by murdering all comers, and a few that were only suspect, among them my cousin, he had just graduated from University of Veracruz,
      I have cousins killed in cd juarez, zacatecas, veracruz, chicago, many friends with family disappeared or murdered, among them some women in cd juarez, news don't pursue cases if they report much that involves narcos even less if it involves aguacates or police or favorite government sicarios.

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  10. You have to admit they have some very valid points.I wasn't too aware that the narcos were kidnapping and killing these guys on their day off.You really can't blame them how dangerous it is for them (the narcos) to be let go.Sounds like the police or judicial are using the military to pick them up and then they can extort them with never a thought about the militarys safety.I wonder if the military are notified when 1 is released.I doubt it so the narco the guy arrested then kills the soldier that picked him upAlso when the narcos are released they put everybody else at risk.You can't blame them for killing them.Damned if they do damned if they don't.Aren't the military more trained to kill then do police duties anyway?

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  11. "If all the criminals in Mexico were to be killed or locked up who would the corrupt politicians blame their crimes and corruption on? The politicians would go broke."

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    1. 11:35 the crooks sentenced to death should have the option to take with them one guy, or ten...
      and those guys chosen should have the same option, there would be only saints left within a year.

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  12. Why are they arresting them? If this is a War they are enemy combatants

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    1. Fire squad, this scumbags are already a lost cause why waste time and risk being recognized(ratted out by superiors) and being kill or worst your family killed, these guys respect nothing why should they be respected. Mexico needs to get rid of its cancer, and the Marina its the last hope/remedy.

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  13. Yes there needs to be a civil war we need to stop sending $$$ to Mexico you can't trust no one in government office

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  14. There are some important points raised in this article which is why I chose to translate it. Among them are "are the army trained to carry out police work?" , no they are not, and so will on occasion infringe on peoples human rights, soldier work with rules of engagement and are not trained in human rights.

    Second is do sicarios and cartels deserve to be treated with the same human rights as everyone else. Since they do not conform to the rules of society, and will at any point contravene the two laws that are built into all humans, dont cause harm and dont cause a loss. Some coin the term narco terrorism and the dictionary definition of a terrorist is someone who interferes with the normal course of government. Narco's certainly do this, with blockades, quota taken from government institutions, widespread theft of state resources. This qualifies them as terrorists, and as such they are not subject, in some persons eyes to be treated fairly under the law or the geneva convention.

    The army are only there because of corruption in the police forces, not to say that there isnt corruption in the army at the higher officer level, because there is. While the government and high ranking officers of the police and armed forces and judiciary are taking bribes, Mexico cannot change the current state of affairs. Only the Mexican people can do this, but they are worn down from year after year of impunity, and lawlessness to the point of acceptance that this is the status quo that will never change.

    In some ways there is an analogy for this in that the country is being run by a corrupt corporation, and when voting, people only vote in a new board of directors to the company who have the same objectives. To enrich themselves. The system will have to change for anything meaningful to change in peoples life in Mexico.

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    1. Thanks OTIS for great article I am old guy. Always Positive on Mexico. Don't understand but it has gotten worse

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    2. 'In some ways there is an analogy for this in that the country is being run by a corrupt corporation, and when voting, people only vote in a new board of directors to the company who have the same objectives. To enrich themselves. The system will have to change for anything meaningful to change in peoples life in Mexico.'

      -- well said Otis
      The whole Mexican government from local, state, miltary, Federal and the corporate sector are integrated into a corrupt system that will not change unless there is some massive social upheavel.
      It's unfortunate that even the soldiers risking their lives in futility as part of a corrupt political chess game.

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    3. Beautifully put.
      You hit it on the nose with this!
      Military personnel are trained to combat and engage such as enemy of the state. Rules of engagement are not those which policing practices apply.
      Definitely one of the best articles and truest perspective of the issues military personnel
      have undertaken.
      Well done.

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    4. The cartels should be considered enemy combatants and treated with the same rules of engagement...no quarter.

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    5. The "cartels are created to be the first Shock Groups of politicians trained to do exactly that, then they move on to commanders in chief of police and military, armed forces members need to own their crap first of all, if criminals take revenge it is because they are owed...
      AL CAPONE did not go around complaining about the public, he was grown, and he took care of business, but he did not go around murdering innocent people like the mexican armed forces whose general cienpedos started his melitary career murdering students in Tlatelolco and came to School of the Americas for his title in murdering imaginary enemy guerrillas by stu dying "soy cultivation",..la Chapa is a bean farmer, must have stolen a page of giniral Cienpedos' war manual...

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    6. Young women are offered jobs, all they have to do is elope with their beloved.
      later they discover "el trabajo es de puta" y le chingan o se mueren, o se llevan una putiza.
      The mexican armed forces are full of aguacates y marinelas that discovered that "soldiering" in mexico is all about killing or murdering and persecuting the poorest of the poorest mexicans, some of them became fluent narcos, working for their politicians and military officers too.
      You can flush the toilet all you want, but the producers of the manure are harder to get rid of.
      THe thing is "DEPOPULATE" BY AND MEANS NECESSARY, and it helps if we demonize the biiig baaad narcos and get sympathy for the pobrisitos aguacatitos de plomo or the goose stepping gansitos marinelas...

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    7. You raise interesting points here. In terms of this: "Second is do sicarios and cartels deserve to be treated with the same human rights as everyone else." I want to comment that to make exceptions under the structure of a judicial system is exactly what weakens that system in the first place. To do so, to enact 'justice' without the due process provided for under the judicial structure in place, speaks more of the people who are carrying out their idea of justice outside of the accepted idea of it,
      than it does about the people who are the recipients of this form of justice. In all parts of the world, where money ,or lack of it ,creates separate forms of justice for different people, one finds a weaker, and therefore ineffectual justice system. This obviously occurs in Mexico, but also occurs on occasion in the US (The OJ Simpson case comes quickly to mind). The idea of vigilante justice, which again creates a separate idea of justice, merely creates a further weakened over-all judicial system which is in place to protect all citizens of that nation. If some people decide that other people do not deserve the protection of that country's judicial system, then it allows for political homicides (ex: Pinochet) as well as individual decisions about who does not deserve justice under the law. For a judicial system to succeed, it , and the entire nation, must agree that all are equally subject to the punishment and protection of the specific system in place, even if at times it doesn't seem "fair".
      If a particular country's judicial system is weakened by violence against the judiciary, bribes and extortion, freedom purchased with money and incarceration for the poor, then it should be one of the most important goals of that nation to strengthen and cleanse their system before all devolves into a meaningless and disrespected idea of law and consequences.

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  15. The corrupt army generals are making millions of dollars and the common soldier is dying fighting these scumbag narco gangsters. What a pity.

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  16. Great job Otis ,but with pain in my heart and even though I love corridos and the rest of the shit that comes with it deep down I know they are right. I thank god that I live in the greatest county in world U.S.A but I miss my motherland greatly.

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    1. Saludos hermano you have much sense.
      Love where you are,not some imaginary land

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    2. Well, in lala land our politicians are Persecuted Saints, some are of the orthodox church just because they love their rubles but they are persecuted all the same, just because they are too pretty.
      Love where you are, but don't get blind to what is going on somewhere else, because it is coming to you sooner or later.

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  17. We got some quitters, send the US troopers in there, (Navy Seal 6 death squad) they will clean house n show your salvation army how to do things.

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    1. Listen wuero. The army is not for catching criminals. There for something else. Thats the police job. Do you all readers know that the war on drugs is never going to end. If the gangs are dismantle its not going to stop there. Their always going to be gangs and drugs out there even if law enforcements dismantles that. Not even your navy seals is going to end that. The mexican army dont want to be out and catching narcos. For them and some of us is a waste of time. Besides the operations that the armed forces carry is a lot of money waste. Like I said that shit is just a waste of time and money. Not just mexico has drugs and gangs problem. All over the world has that problem even corruption

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    2. Like they did in the Middle East?

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    3. When osama bin laden was killed, al qaeda wasnt totally gone. Just cripple. They still active despite bin ladens death. Even in mexico when the jefes de jefes of any cartel organization was either capture or killed by the armed forces or drug rivals. Its cripple. La familia michoacan still operates. Los beltran leyva are still active and others. So yeah just a waste of time and dinero for military operations. In the middle east do they have a police force that can stopped terrorist instead using the armed forces?

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    4. Wars only make money for the moneyed, and their mouthpieces chew on their bridles and the soap up their butts thinking of their bounty of table scraps.
      All wars are wars for profit, let the war profiteers or their children fight their own wars in person, then there will be no more wars, specially not for profit for hundreds of years,
      In iraq, the US armed forces won in three months and president gw bush declared Mission Accomplished next week, then the private military and intelligence contractors took over, and it all went to hell for the next 13 years...
      Ask US soldiers about it, it is one of the causes of suicides of iraq war veterans.

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  18. switch sides then, homie?

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    1. 6:07 after retirement from the army,
      serving as aguacates or marinelas is like Narco Boot Camp.
      --Of course, many wash out boys fail it and complain to mama...

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  19. When the military is tired of the Mexican B S it's time to take it back. Military overthrow the government. And politicos. Start a new government. U got the fire power. Need help ask CIA.

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    1. SEDENA and SEMAR soldiers need to realize that, they need to take the country back from the thieves and Mexican enemies.

      Mexican State enemies: Narcos, sicarios, thieves, senate as a whole, diputados, governors, mayors, judges, SSPF, municipal police, state police, federal police, interior minister, castillo, and the very own Mexican president.

      Take over the country along and start a new government with elections after they have shot all public servants and all narcos and sicarios so they don't vote

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    2. Military men have never proved to be apt governors, sorry, not even Napoleón...

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  20. http://www.taringa.net/posts/offtopic/14495535/Carta-de-un-soldado-al-pueblo-mexicano.html
    BB translate this letter it's awesome

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  21. can't blame them. Must be nothing worse than fighting a war where the enemy is not just in front of you but often right with you and pulling the strings higher up.

    A lot of honest Mexican soldiers and cops truely want to do their job and put away/kill the badguys and protect the innocent but because of corruption so off the scale I think it would make anyone want to just throw in the towel.

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  22. The military personnel fighting this Narco war and its sicarios have endured ridicule from public outcry and sacrifice of life. I can understand the frustration towards a judiciary system whose efforts are merely a stunt and a mockery to laws. A slap in the face for those apprehending such parasites who only ravage the country and its citizens.
    Moreover a war which guidelines for human rights are asserted and monitored by critics.
    Such negative associations have not been kind to those fighting a corrupt municipal government.

    E42

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    1. 8:04 after El Negro Durazo "se paso por abajo" de los pantalones a los militares mexicanos por putos, the militares took revenge, and the civilian courts, in the person of rafael macedo de la concha for example, the civilian courts have been infiltrated by the mexican military lawyers, and they allow great impunity for military crimes, rape, kidnapping assassinations and "mistakes" sometimes even sacrifice honest military members to cover up more egregious.crimes, don't blame "the mexicans" if you chose to be a member of a corrupt military, get out and join a decent organization, unless you love your military pay too much.
      I am sure you can go to.military court.and demand an honorable discharge for personal reasons of for reasons of personal decency or for no reason, and I am sure the mexican military brass don't want your reasons known by anybody else.

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  23. They feel underappreciated and they are right. Truth is the Narcos can't get away with what they are doing without a lot of public support.

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    1. This is simply one of the smartest comments I have read. Who wants to risk there life everyday for nothing. An the public support comment is so true as it was the same in samarra Iraq. Turning a blind eye an not saying or doing anything is the same as supporting the shitbags

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    2. The mighty US military have felt "under apprecisted" a few times before, during and after the Vietnam War, that went on since the end of WWII until the Tonkin incident fabricated for the occasion unleashed more US advisors.
      Only because real americans protested so much the war in Vietnam was finally terminated. Vietnam War Veterans still feel underappreciated, mexican military like military all over the Latin American banana republics are hated or at least resented, because they earned nothing less that that. Their puppeteers earned tons of billions of dollars, but don't expect any of it for public relations experts to make you "loved by your countries peoples" regardless of your heroics.

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  24. I find it odd that the Mexican military don't like to film their operations, makes me think their're just as guilty as the cartels.

    I mean theirs more videos on the cartels fighting than the army.

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    1. Who would want to expose their tactics????

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    2. I:05 dirty deeds are not necessarily "tactics", they are usually crimes against humanity.
      If the melitary take news people along to reoort, they will have to be stealing tapes and recorders and typing machines and killing the reportes in "enemy attacks".

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  25. The public just looks the other way.Without a revolt nothing will happen.

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  26. People need to get behind law and order,these guys go all out its the only way they know and have been trained,they kill civilians with AKs and ARs as if in war footings.
    Sicarios with automatic weapons dont deserve rights

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  27. The soldiers that crashed and had to be med evacuated by heli in reynosa were being ridiculed on social media for being "indios from the sierra" and not knowing how to drive by the same ungrateful civilians posting crap about the narcos.

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  28. You knew what you were signing up for . If you scared go to church

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  29. You knew what you were signing up for . If you scared go to church

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    1. I doubt they thought they signed up for catch and release. Otherwise they would not be putting their lives in peril for no reason.

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    2. Don't every soldier in the US know they may have to fight another oil war??

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  30. Hope the soldiers don't form death squads to avenge fellow soldiers or family members, because the goverment is working with the narcos. That would be the begining of a civil war to rid mexico of its narco terrorists.

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    1. 11:39 expert military are death squads, they are also hawks in their free days and spare time, they are getting rotated in and out more often because the established corrupt turf owners don't want too much competition around, specially with the "new governor" taking over all the money making set ups...

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  31. My Cousin's husband is a Sergant in the Méxican Army in Colima, the few times I've visited Mexico ( because of the insecurity ) he always has very good stories. He says the same thing. He's tired of arresting the same criminals all the time. He has lost men because of fire fights and then will run onto the sicarios that were responsible for the death of some of his men months later. He said that after running into them a 2nd time, he never has to arrest them ever again, I'm pretty sure I know what he meant. He usually gets sent to Northern States.

    I'm not sure if he's corrupt but they live in a middle class neighborhood and drove a newer model compact car the last time I visited.

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    1. 3:44 if he makes sure he never has to arrest a crook a second time, I am sure the sarge is a death squad member, if he needs to do that, and be an iutlaw, he should do it like a man, say goodbye to his military paycheck, not taint the military with his cowardly extra-judiciary "activities" and see if he can drive a nice car around anymore.

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    2. I'm sure border patrol is tired of arresting the same criminals over and over again.
      Yet they don't form death squads!

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    3. @5:16PM Most of the people that the Border Patrol arrest are arrested for crossing the border are arrested for crossing the border illegally. Maybe the Border Patrol remembers a time not too long ago that crossing the border illegally was a civil offense and not a criminal offense, much like a traffic ticket is a civil offense, not a criminal offense. Kind of hard to form death squads that shoot someone for that kind of offense.

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