Thursday, September 29, 2016

Chapo's sons: Newly released footage depicts Ivan Guzman being kicked while kidnapped

Both sons, Ivan Archivaldo and Jesus Alfredo were kidnapped from the La Leche restaurant in Puerto Vallarta on August 15th.  .... from Milenio


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  1. Sorry I'll make sure I kick him harder next time ...

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    1. Fucken cowards....on both sides

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    2. The guys who kidnapped Are dead and buried

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  2. I'm sure that hurt his pride more than anything else.

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  3. Then set free once the 5th month got involved

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  4. So what? Should have bitched slapped him also!
    Why doesn't he go out and grab a lawyer like his dad and claim he is being tortured also?
    Fuck Ivan. He got off easy is all we know and he is back to destroying - desmadrando - Mexico until he's dead or gets arrested!

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    1. Fuck you man you don't know Ivan to be talking about him like that

      What would you have done it you were in the same situation

      Ended up getting released shows you something

      Don't be biased people

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    2. Cjng is just waiting for his mother la chaputa to get sent to the usa and they catch him agin

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    3. @8:23 Fuck you! Ivan and CDS fucked up cd Juarez among many other towns and cities. Not to mention their business is selling illegal/harmful substances - drugs. You don't have to know a person personally to know they are pieces of shit!
      You need to grow up!

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    4. @6:39 Mr big balls go say that to him or his people. See how you make it out! He made out of his situation

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    5. "Don't be biased people"
      You sure you used the right terminology describing what they're doing?

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    6. @9:34 "Him and his people" are also only brave with guns and in groups. Tell them to drop their weapons and come one at a time and see if they also have the "BALLS" also to do that? Which they don't!

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    7. @9:34

      Mr. Lambehuevos, I probably won't say it to his face with his people around him, but I would definitely say it to his face if he didn't have his bodyguards around. See how tough he is by himself

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    8. Calmensen ya dejen de pegarsela de fieras puro chuck noris se la lleva aqui

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    9. No, yo soy Bruce Lee

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    10. Conocen a el Mar Muerto?
      Pues yo lo mate!
      Conocen a la Sierra Madre?
      Pues yo la conoci cuando era senorita!
      Cuando hago lagartijas no me empujo hacia arriba. Empujo la tierra hacia abajo!
      Chuck Norris? Si si conosco a esa morra!

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  5. E que ver que cuento se hechan los ilucionados del cds. Que la patada fue un acto y que es unas de las estrategias del chapo que le den un patadon a su mugros. No manchen lla se les acabo el corrido

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  6. Well, I guess know it's official that CDS and Jalisco are at war...

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    1. They have been at war theres a video where one of ivans sicarios was caught in jalisco and they ask him quistion while smacking him around look it up

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    2. everyone says theres a war yet the Guzman family insist it was the Beltranes who took them which makes sense with the GUZMAN BELTRAN WAR suddenly escalating again. and Alfredo has been tweeting that the kidnappings were not true that it wasnt him it was someone else and the media says it was him.

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    3. All those Twitter account are hilariously fake.

      If it was the BL I don't see why they wouldn't kill them, CDS has no leverage against them. Chapo did get titos dad arrested and essentially his uncle killed, he's probably seeking some sort of revenge.

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    4. @ll of those twitter accounts are fake? How would you know that, do all of them get 'investigated' to the point of no doubt. ? ?

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    5. FBI looked into the "Chapo" Twitter (which interacted often with the Alfredo and Ivan twitters) after trump was threatened. They confirmed they were fake accounts.

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  7. Where's the full, unedited video, and why release this now, I guess to make them look weak or something.

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    1. To make them look weak haha they are weak no need to make them look to what they really are

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    2. 7:27 Under our video there is a LINK, chingadamadreeee!

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  8. The crazy thing is that's the hardest he has probably ever been hit in his entire life. When he curled up in pain was the moment when he said "I want my papì".

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    1. Haha i wonder where were los 10000 sicarios del chapo

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    2. The kick didn't even look like it was that hard.

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    3. 7:31 he just said AAAAYYYY and wailed like a coyote to scare the kicker who kicks like a perra throwing dirt on her popó.
      You know, the kidnappers are all dead now, they didn't know that los señores del narco do not do things like that, but politicians will arrest your children and extradite them...

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  9. Well these guys fucked up hard... All that for nothing

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  10. No se preocupen parte de la liberacion estaba que el que lo patio tenia que morir y ya esta bajo tierra

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    1. Oye pero ese del video no se parece con ninguno de los dos, fué patadon de pony seco el que le dieron al del video, ya no hayan que inventar diciendo que son los chapo jrs, solo que sean los 'chapitos number 71,72', de esos que solo mueven griffa, caballos y vacas.

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  11. No respect, my only thing is if you're mencho why not kill him? You've already sparked the flame might as well save face. It's a power move and releasing him showed a lot of weakness in the world of the mafia and anybody who disagrees don't know shit about it.

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    1. Because Mencho'S son is in jail. Or else those bosos would be dead. He has something to lose.

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    2. Not exactly, your thinking small. What do you get from killing him ? Start a big ass war? Do you really want to just start a big ass war? No. You negotiate. You wait for other people to step in. Government. Chapo. Mayo. Mencho. Other big fish. And you negotiate. Now you have gained something. You avoid war at all costs. And the truce is backed up by everyone. With consequences if broken.
      That's probably why chapos people are attacking BLO, they know that CJNG can't get involved. Kinda smart if you ask me. But what would I know.

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    3. The reason he was released was because epn made a deal with chapo to protect his kids and when they where kid nappedepn sent menchito to also get kiddnapped and la familia is first i would say its pritty pussy like for cds to make a deal with feds

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    4. 9:13 is right. It's well known while in prison (his first stint) Chapo made government connections and in exchange for letting him escape he has snitched on dozens of people. Now his 2 kids are granted immunity to basically do whatever they want all over the country. What a circus, they should've been killed.

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    5. probably because if he kills chapo's children he's gonna get his own killed, are worthless guzmans so valuable? not saying that mencho's kids are more valuable than guzman's, they're worth the same: nothing.

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    6. 3 chapitos dead one menchito dead..? Mencho would have got the upper hand

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  12. Don't you just hate it when you're under the gun and a kick comes out of no where.

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    1. I'm sure Ivan thought he was untouchable but homeboy said I beg to differ. Ribs meet my Alligator boot.

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  13. That's why they are fighting BLO? To make sure they don't get stronger and complicate strategic points later on as they also prepare for war vs Cjng. Damn there's about to be a big ass war inside Sinaloa. This will weaken CDS. No matter what. All the attention and exposure.

    My question is this. Did they really let the kids go? And was it really CJNG? Cause right now it's looking like BLO did it. And I don't know if they let the kids really go. I would think they would be alive as a wild card for Mencho.

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    1. thats what im saying it was BLO who did it, recently the Guzman Beltran war got heated again now CDS is out there invading towns, taking them over going at it with BLO and yet they havent even set foot in Jalisco and fought CJNG, thats akward for a cartel that invaded many plazas out of greed and killed others out of retaliation when family was touched,even the family said it was the Beltranes who did it.

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  14. Which zeta leader did they arrest in Houston? Was it Kike Trevino?

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    1. Breitbart says so?
      Que clase de bestia would do that? He is wanted on the US for murdering that student from tejas, pa empezar. Ora siguen las hermanas.

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    2. Kiko Trevino boss CDN

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    3. Yeah! Guess Bravo 1 from Vieja Escuela was right. All CDN bosses be hiding like the narcomantas said... Wonder if zetas Vieja escuela and CDG might take over Nuevo Laredo

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  15. 8:17 smart thinking!!!

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  16. That's funny shit though him getting kicked and curling up like a female! K agan in corrido cuando al ivansito got kicked lol

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    1. Im sure you would do the same if you got kicked in the ribs

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    2. No he's a tough guy he would take it

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    3. Haha he hit his head harder on the counter

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  17. I don't believe they where ever released....
    They posted many pictures of wealth and things. Ivan posted a pic of his father RIGHT AFTER he escaped. You think for 1 minute that they wouldnt post pics of themselves after getting out of this????
    Im not a conspiracy theories guy, Im a Realist. These guys would be bragging if they got released. They would be letting people know if they where involved in the insurngency happening in the Mountains right now.
    All we have "heard" is that they where released because some guy who's own sons are in US Witness Location said turn them loose.
    Ill bet all the Meth in Manteca these two are are loooooonnnggg ago liquified.
    Im calling bullshit on that shit in the mountains to! Riodoce and them are getting payed "Propoganda" $$ to blow up that Story and feed us that they where released unharmed. All to give the facade that Guzman is running shit still. Guano is protecing whats left, that can get took at any moment. Guzman by all accounts is crawling on his cell ceilling.
    By the way, we havent been assured 100% that his mother made it out alive from when Isidro and Machomito lit up la Tuna either.

    ~Spectator

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  18. Haha he kicked the dog that never stops barking to show them they dont bark they bite

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  19. Anybody know who was the guy in the white shirt?

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    1. The guy in the white shirt is morroñis

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    2. El morroñis es un pinchi chapulin now?

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  20. Well now we know where chapos escape money went....

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  21. So thats why the 5 gun man got executed in jalisco , It was the body of those fools ,and everybody thougth it was the chapitos dead bodys

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  22. No mames ni se mira su cara no creo que ese sea el chapito puro cuento seguro un jalisquillo invento esa historia más falsa que nada

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    1. Its funny how people think that he looks the people in the fake twitter accounts and jalisco dont need to make it up when its on live video i guess some nuthugger just cant take it

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    2. 10:14 typical Sinaloa groupies lol they have answers to everything bad that happens to cds

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  23. Mencho got scared to kill them.what a coward, he Will never be on top to be on top you have to kill ur enemies not shit ur pants when you have them infront of you

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    1. And are you talking from experience?

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    2. hahahahahaahahaaaaaaaa

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    3. hahahahahaahahaaaaaaaa

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  24. Yet they were released "unharmed."

    Yeah, right.. Nice try with your propaganda CDS....

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    1. Haha they tried to make themself look good till the gov decided to burn the out haha

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    2. You are damn ignorant, yes "unharmed", get out of your damn cocoon, I'm in tj every month, been in Durango, Colima, Guadalajara, michoacan, anywhere and anyone, you get picked up. 99.9% you are waking up with you balls in your mouth, head inside a cooler, next to the road, the fact that they were released says it all, zetas are garbage but they would have carved these guys up, no way there are letting a CDS go. Arturo Beltran would have made them in to tacos and eaten them, (he supposedly did that), Juarez cartel from Sinaloa, CaF from Sinaloa, mencho, chichincle de Nacho coronel, keep on hating on Sinaloa, they all have pacts to fight CDS, what does that say, only cartel historically not from Sinaloa, gulf cartel Juan Garcia abrego,

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  25. El mencho might regret this big time. Los chapitos won't forget this and now that this video is out publicly. There pride might get in the way of whatever deal was agreed upon and will have to start knocking some of them over just to gain some respect.

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    1. Chapos r not going to do anything they are getting pounded from every where and losing terrortory fast they cant even control there land

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    2. Nobody is getting pounded don't believe everything you see on tv and read on articles I'll tell you this mencho ain't shit cjng is running because Sinaloa cartel is letting them run all this shit is a hoax it is what it is. Money talks bullshit walks and mencho doesn't have the funds like the Sinaloa cartel. Chale.

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  26. What I don't get is why they were released? if they were at war would it not had been more useful to have kept him for leverage or killed him to get Chapo mad? just seems strange. Please don't reply if you are one of these overly paranoid 'the government is behind everything' idiots.

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    1. probably there isnt a war, you know cells can fight but because they are backed by a bigger group tge media right away assumes the cartels are at war, like on tj aquiles and jp had been fighting waaaay before during teo/CAF times, but because jp got backed recently by cjng and aquiles is known to be friend with some people from Sinaloa the media right away say WAR between cjng and CDS even tho aquiles never claims cds he claims his own cartel el cartel de la rana. in COLIMA banners appeared threatening R5 to stop doing his bullshit killing addicts using CDS name and it was signed by the "REAL CDS" now CDS hasnt even attacked Jalisco, The Guzman family said it was the Beltranes that did the Kidnapping, while Alfredo is on Twitter saying he was never kidnapped

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    2. so why does it say the guy on the video is Ivan while it was supossely Edgar?
      if there is a war, why hasnt either side attacked?
      if its assumed that many groups operate in Jalisco (as in every state, not every state is 100% one cartel) its constantly being said CJNG did it, yet the Guzman family said it was Beltranes?
      makes sense with tge spike in violence between Guzman/Beltran
      if it was CJNG why is it the Beltranes and not CJNG who are feeling the wrath of CDS
      and at last, WHY is Alfredo on Twitter saying he and Ivan never got kidnapped that the media just assumes it was him yet the one in the video wasnt even him he has no idea who it is,

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    3. Even epn is saying "now" he does not respond for the crimes of his former friends and associated partners in crime, while he keeps sending them thousands of millions of pesos to pave their escapes.
      Even Ricardo Monrial whose Delegación on el DF has more pirujas than the US Senate per city block (and whose second on board has been caught with $600 000.00 pesos in "quotas voluntarias" from Morena members) says he has 14 brothers and he does not answer for any of them, much less for his second in command or anybody else, es que tá cabrón, chicken ass.
      Pero ahi andan de calientes

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  27. Gente Nueva is actively looking for all involved in el levanton de los Guzman brothers ..

    Gente Nueva el 007

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    1. Gente nueva ya no existe

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    2. Gente nueva ended eating pavement in nayarit and tubutama

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  28. every time a big event happens, singers are quick to sing about it, something big happens and they run to the pen and paper, chapo got arrested, nacho killed, chapo escaped and in less than 48 hours corridos appear on youtube in acapella and shit saying esperenlo muy pronto en studio version or en el nuevo cd, and not just any pdrson with a guitar, i mean highly recognized artist on the genre the ones that appear on the tweets and IG pics of private parties of these narcos, artist that have been there face to face singing. and till this day not one artist had made a corrido about it explaining what happened even if they exagerate not even that.... thats kinda interesting

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  29. chapos best friend el Rayo was killed by Arellano and CDS attacked CAF
    Chapos brother was killed by CDG and CDS attacked CDG
    chapos son was killed nothing big happened its rumored cds killed him by mistake
    chapo was arrested and Bravo was quickly killed for failing to protect him
    chapos moms house was shot up
    and CDS attacked BLO
    Chapos sons get kidnapped and now BLO strongholds get invaded and taken over
    the Guzmans say BLO did the kidnappings
    cds has sent sicarios to fight all over mexico from Tijuana all the way to Tamaulipas yet Jalisco a state that is close by hasnt even been invaded by sinaloa sicarios or attacked by the CDS cells that have always been there.
    and the media still wants to say CJNG did it and call it a war for ratings? get out of here with that bullshit

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    1. Its funny how they say chapos took over blo strong hold but blo took over it about a week before and without having to use the millitary haha

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    2. Cds is scared of cjng, that explains it lol

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  30. need chapo back, definitely!

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  31. Culiacan se calento 5 soldados muertos...

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    1. Thats what happens when you help los chaputos

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  32. Can we get a corrido about the kidnapping of the Guzman brothers and for the lyrics to include the kick given to ivan

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    1. Haha i would also love to see el komander sing it. Im not a fan of his but its funny how he makes so much stuff up to make chapos look good

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  33. Mexican narcos are weak babies once they are caught!
    Fact!

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    1. Danm i would pay to see ivan guzman vs el menchito fist fight i bet menchito would beat the living crap out of ivan and his brother at the same time haha

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    2. Yea menchito is mma trained blackbelt in jiujitsu ,taekwondo, major kickboxing skills and krav maga and he trained with spetnaz

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  34. Either all u guys r as strong as john rambo or u dont know what you're talkin about..

    He got kicked hard in the kidneys and fell down,he was at a party and sicarios ambushed him.I bet he was thinking he was gonna get popped right then and there.

    I think all cartels and bosses deserve to rot in hell but el chapitos getting released is a sign of power and the guys who kidnapped them fucked up.

    I think cds still has juice and will do so for quite a while.

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    1. Agreed. We are a major organization with tenticals all over the world. It's a horizontal organization that has been in business for years with family and blood ties on every branch of the "tenticals". You think that the capture of el Jefe is going to be the end of Sinaloa? Absolutely NOT. It will re-structure and re-take lost plazas in time. We have the money, people and political ties to go to war for years. The only competition in that respect is Jalisco. At the end of the day, Sinaloa will make an alliance with Jalisco knowing that war EQUALS loss of money and Peace EQAUALS money. Atte Miguel Miller 701

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    2. Ambushed he was not ambushed when you go to a diffrent cartel terrotory you are waiting for somthing to happen to u he got what he diserved

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    3. Some people here are either trolls, or they seriously believe things like BLO so strong they can overthrow government. The cycle will keep spinning like it has the past 40 years.
      La mafia acabara cuando llegue el fin del mundo senores

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    4. Who was that old mother fu--- who grabbed Ivan that way oh hell no!

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  35. He KICKED the fuck out of him. Too fucking funny

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  36. I got kicked in the kidneys by lapd and i pissed myself and the following day pissed blood.

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    1. 12:09 Did you sue?

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    2. Nope they didnt have cameras and all that technology back in the day i deserved that ass kicking

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  37. I would be so pissed if I was the guy who kicked him, all that for nothing, just to let them go.

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  38. The kidnappers look like feds or military, makes you wonder if the government was behind this to send a message to chapo not to talk after extradition.

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    1. Miguel angel osorio chong wants to be presidente, what are the chances he is the one heating up the plaza?
      He really need all the plazas he can align with his "plataforma"
      --The narcos are such pendejos and are bitch slapping each other instead of sticking it to their masters in power...

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  39. I bet they looked each other in the eyes and thought, holy fuck we are going to end you in a plastic bag cut up like fish food before they were taken out.

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  40. Chapos son kicked? He got off EASY...the son of a bitch should have been beheaded alive.

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  41. US Officials said Ivans kidnapping was a "unsanctioned event" by lower members of CJNG, the abducters were ordered to release them immediately by their bosses.

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    1. Its all fake .government plotted it . so they can make his capture more credible. Like th raid on th house of chapos mom . its all fake .

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  42. that was funny and no one cares he deserves far worse than just a kick if those men had made him suffer and disappear i would send them my life savings they would be heroes in my eyes

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