Thursday, August 18, 2016

PV; Mexico won't rule out Ivan was one of the kidnapped.

Posted by DD from El Universal
Translated by DD

Jalisco State Attorney General Eduardo Almaguer told El Universal that there is one person among the abductees who remains unidentified. Authorities have not ruled out it could be Iván Archivaldo Guzmán Salazar, Chapo Guzmán's 32-year-old son. Chapo is believed to have 18 children.

Among evidence that indicates Iván Archivaldo, whose birthday was Monday, may have been present are witnesses who say "Las Mañanitas," a traditional Mexican birthday song, was sung inside the restaurant before the abduction carried out by several gunmen carrying high-caliber weaponry.

Jesús Alfredo also made a social media post on Sunday in which he indicated that he was with his brothers -- specifically Iván Archivaldo who "has been like a father to me," he wrote in the post.   

"Good little Sunday with my brothers. Now hopefully there were moments like this every day. Although things are ugly, not all the money in the world could pay like family. Family, brothers are ground gold," Jesús Alfredo wrote, (translated from Spanish.)
 
When asked if Iván Archivaldo was among the kidnapped, Almaguer said "he could not affirm."
"Of the elements we have and images we reviewed and diligence carried out, so far we have no elements to confirm or presume the presence of this person," Almaguer said.

He also confirmed that there were two private flights out of Puerto Vallarta minutes after the fact. One of the log records showed that the plane would fly to  the city of Leon, Guanajuato (with passengers) ; and the other plane to San Luis Potosi with seven passengers, six women and one man, however, 'the governor of San Luis Potosi, following an investigation, tells us that they never got a flight from Vallarta' that night.


85 comments:

  1. Chapo will die this year along with his sons answer mom

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    1. Wow I belive this one, best comment ever and gona be true

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    2. 12:16 Wow, so many alucines...

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    3. No;
      Chapo and sons need to be extradited (after we get the data and money we can) so they are set as an example for the rest of the youngsters to see justice prevails.

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  2. chapo betrayed Mochomo so now his son got betrayed and will be executed soon and everything will be on video for chapo to see how it feels, pretty sure he's bald now

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    1. Mochomera and mencho are gona take out the guzmans including the mom

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    2. dude stop spamming chapo is a snitch hes bald now blah blah. we all know you are the same low life that has nothing else to do. Get a life moron, those comments are so stale and stupid at this point. You arnet fooling anyone, everyone knows you spam the same bs 20 times in every comment section.

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    3. They sending big message to snitchola stop snitch in or else

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    4. 12:32 I hope it happens

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  3. Tanto daño que an echo for there greed what would you expect was going to happen

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    1. Hawking Goose-Man Low EraAugust 21, 2016 at 2:27 PM

      Porfavor type en one idioma

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  4. Chapo betrayed so much of his own people and I'm talking about his family you think people are not going to get pay back he as so much enemies from other cartels what better way to get at him than what he loves more his kids CHAPO your not that smart!

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    1. Chapo is a sociopath. He only cares about his own needs.

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    2. 1:36-That describes a typical drug trafficker.

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  5. Mencho really flexed his muscle

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    1. Yes he did and is well respected and loved by cartels and people all over mexico not like chapo the traitor snitch

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    2. Mencho is in control all of baja and sinaloa is his

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    3. No one in Mexico loves mencho, what are you talking about? You're talking about a guy that is even worse then chapo and 90% of people don't even know exists vs a guy who has become a pop culture icon.

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    4. I love mencho

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    5. Hahaha mencho in SIN? Not anywhere in southern SIN Aqui en MAZA no hay lacras como esas

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    6. Vale verga es mechón, todo esto es puro cuento. Los chapitos son unos hijos del chingada pero no le pueden hacer nada a esos cabrones. El chapo va enseñar su poder y el respeto que le tienen los mechones y cuanto otro cartel. CDS. Puro Tamazula DGO

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    7. Le tiemblan al menchon los gallos bravos de sin, los menchones no juegan jueguitos

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    8. Mencho es bien gallo, es mi idolo.

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  6. Well their you have it: They are not in hidden mansions in Sayulita or scuttled off on a mega yacht.They were flown out on a private jet that was supposed to go to San Luis Potasi.

    On another note... I wonder how business is doing at Le Leche? And how renowned chef/owner Alphonso Cadena is doing? There are no winners in this situation.

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    1. Cadenas are supposed to be all from Durango, puros hijos del ojo de vidrio, Porfirio Cadena.

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  7. no puede ser! NO .El senor Ivan Y Alfredo

    Hermano que andas haciendo
    Para que rumbo te encuentras
    aquí anda el Jesús maría
    Visitando nuestra tierra
    Salúdeme mucho a todos
    Yo me encuentro aquí en la perla

    Arreglando los asuntos
    Importantes de la empresa
    Cuidese mucho mi brother
    Que aca con gusto lo espera

    El trabajo es lo primero
    Terminando aya nos vemos
    Todo un hombre de negocios
    Ese es mi carnal Alfredo
    Tu no te quedas abajo
    Ivan tiene su buen puesto
    Todo fuera mas alegre
    Si estuviera aqui el moreno
    Edgar como has echo falta
    Siempre te recordaremos

    Ya llegaron los weritos y entre
    Ellos viene jose angel
    Buen amigo de Archivaldo de esas
    Amistades grandes a su lado se ve
    El cielo en la perla y muchas partes

    Siempre al cien con los chapitos
    La amistad es lo que vale
    Tocan os nuevos rebeldes en
    Muchos de nuestros partys

    Esta por demas decirles que
    Somos hijos del chapo por
    Usted damos la vida
    Señor Joaquin archivaldo
    Estamos muy orgullosos
    Ser guzman es un alago

    Cuando lo vemos contento
    Nos damos por bien pagados
    Eres un hombre muy bueno
    Aunque te tachen de maloooo

    Las nuevas generaciones seguido
    Nos frecuentamos Zambada y esparragosa
    Los torres y los damazos ya cuando
    Se hace la bola exelente la pasamos
    Hacen falta los fernandez
    Al cachorro lo extrañamos
    Madre estamos contigo desde afuera
    te apoyamoooss

    Ivan y vienen las amas y van
    A pasar los años ivan a seguir guzmanes
    La nueva era mandando
    Alfredito y archivaldo herededos
    Del reynado mientras tanto
    Manda el jefe y al jefe ay
    Que respetarlo y una vez mas lo decimos
    Somos los hios del chapooo

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    1. Em, Chivis...why do you accept a comment like this? It's not even a damn comment.

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    2. em..reader...who says I did?

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    3. 6:36 why you mad leave chivis alone she doing too much already

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    4. One of los gueritos was kidnapped with el chapito.

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    5. Some idiot trying to write a corrido

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    6. Los hijos del Chapo by Nuevos Rebeldes

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  8. What the hell does all this mean? Did Ivan set up Alfredo to get killed so that he alone could inherent Chapo's portion of Sinaloa? Did both brothers get kidnapped by CJNG? What is even going on?

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    1. They're getting the Chapo influence out of the way. His time is over.

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  9. Forgets to say the troques used do not appear anywhere

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  10. The advantage for Chapo in all of this is that, with 18 children, he has a lot of spares left if a few of them get kidnapped or lost.

    The consensus among Mexican reporters-- Hector de Mauleon, El Universal, for example-- is that the reason the families have not filed official criminal complaints ("denuncias") is that there are ongoing negotiations for the release of the abductees. That seems reasonable, although the only real practical bargaining left is probably over money. There is no way the parties can trust each other if there is a truce negotiated, so an accord would be useless. And the kidnappers cannot kill the abductees because the resulting bloodbath would be bad for business. My guess is that the abductees will be quietly released and the details will never come out. I frankly believe that the government knows the identities of everybody involved in this incident but is keeping the identities confidential so that the negotiations for the release of the abductees will not be hampered.

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    1. More likely any negotiation with the gvt is private, as they don't want to look like weak rat goofs pleading for the gvts help!
      Fact!

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    2. What the hell could CJNG possibly want in exchange for those two Sinaloa brats? They have all the money, drugs, guns, and power in the world that they could possibly ever want.

      Let me tell you right now that this will not end peacefully. You can't just give back the two Sinaloa princes that you just abducted, because Sinaloa will hold that grudge against you forever and there will be war eventually over it.

      So since there is going to be war over this action eventually anyway, they might as well just kill the two little Sinaloa Princes they have in their pocket and start off winning position.

      Once again I ask, what could they ever possibly get in return for these two lives that they don't already have. And on top of that, do you think Sinaloa Cartel will just forgive and forget this kidnapping? War is the result of this no matter how you look at it.

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    3. chapo is bald and a rat guy is back...please ban this guy. He is ruining the comments posting the same thing about Chapo over and over and pretending to be different people.

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    4. Exactly. They're dead anyway.

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    5. 1:38 I don't think BB bans people just because they unnerve some disciples of epn, it happens when know-it-alls start demanding shit, to them.
      If comments get posted, and you don't agree with them, explain your poó and move on, you may get posted, or not, maybe...

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  11. Obviously, the Guzman's have immunity from capture from the Mexicans and American authorities.
    Most likely a $$$ and info deal.
    The authorities must leave the sons in business to keep the $$$$ flowing! When Chapo is extradicted the DEA will want in the hundreds of millions if not billions $$$ to mitigate his sentence.
    The DEA lets cartels grow in order to one day seize large sums of $$$$!
    One day the sons will be grabbed by the DEA and more $$$ extracted!
    Drug trafficking is all about the $$$, for the narcos and the corrupt politicians and police!
    The worst fear of the DEA is for drugs to become legal!

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    1. You are wrong you fool. Do you know how much money they spend fighting the war on drugs every single year? The federal government spends $15 BILLION, whereas the state and local governments spend $25 BILLION. EVERY YEAR.

      Do you seriously think they're getting a good return on that money by capturing a king-pin here or there and taking the few pennies they can find on them on top of a few properties and cars?

      This is not something that makes the government money you fool. This is very expensive for the government. Try again and think harder this time. Try to figure out why do you think the US government finds that it's worth spending all this damn money on the war on drugs. It's not to make money, you're absolutely wrong about that homie.

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    2. @12:56 You are such a dupe!
      The DEA only spends taxpayer $$$$ and narco $$$ they confiscate for their big pay cheques and multi-million $$$ guaranteed pensions!
      What other kind of work could a DEA agent do? Security guard or prison guard!
      It's a scam to ripoff taxpayer and live the good life!

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    3. Your the dummy! Where do you think the government gets that money to spend? From tax payers so they need to capture people and make it look good to keep getting the funding so they can keep paying all the law enforcement Etc etc not to mention that prisons are big business people own stocks in prisons so they need to keep the prisons filled to keep paying out returns to investors. So idiot just because money is being spent dosent mean they are really trying to solve the problem others wise there would be no money to spend if no drugs. What do you think all that money is spent on? Dea to aft to local police to judges to mandatory drug treatment facility to whatever and whoever else gets paid for either trying to bust drug dealers to those gettin paid from prisons being filled to those being paid for court ordered treatment programs etc etc. Wow and you have the nerve to call some one a idiot. You act like the government is spending money out of the policy makers own pockets. No idiot they are spending tax dollars and spending money and assets seized from drugs. Have you ever througt why if a drug dealer makes money from a addict and buys something it's drug money but if police seize it and use it to buy new equipment, build new headquarters, pay themselves etc it's no longer drug money and it's ok. The money still came from a dopefiend and is still drug money but if the govt spends it it's ok? If it really wasn't about the money than when they claim they seized money made from the suffering of others they would destroy it right? But they aren't making money lol you are a true idiot.

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    4. Obviously, the dude defending the billions that American taxpayers give the system to for the war on drugs reaps money from that failed system.
      Embarassing.

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    5. The CIA had their turn, even killed kiki camarena.
      Now there is a new sheriff in town...

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  12. Why the fuck is it so hard to figure out if Ivan Guzman was kidnapped? Just ask the skanks that were at the party with these snitches

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    1. Its still under negotiations.
      Both will be spared. Remember the clip is only 20 sec. Maybe more people in another room, he might of been periciando en el baño.. This is what happens when you don't pay taxes to the cartel that shares the same name of the state that some organizations conduct business at.

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    2. Screw illegal taxes.Taxes are to be paid to 1's government not to THUGS!Who the hell do they think they are?[replacing the government? and the the REAL government puts up with this crap?]

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  13. Jesús Alfredo also made a social media post on Sunday in which he indicated that he was with his brothers -- specifically Iván Archivaldo who "has been like a father to me," he wrote in the post. "
    Good little Sunday with my brothers. Now hopefully there were moments like this every day. Although things are ugly, not all the money in the world could pay like family. Family, brothers are ground gold,"

    How sentimental! Brings a tear to your eye! Hilarious!
    Moments and things very soon got a whole lot uglier!
    Ironic and hilarious!

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    1. All of those social media profiles are completely FAKE.

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    2. Are you mentally challenged? Those accounts are fake.

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    3. Probably real accounts!
      These narco juniors are spoiled and believe they are untouchable!
      LOL that the grade 6 drop-outs know if a social media account is fake!

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    4. Yeah just like Chapos twitter acct...all bs. Those are done by satrical sights in Mexico. If you believe those are real I have some nice beach front property on mars you might be interested in..

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  14. Chapo will escape again
    Mex government will let chapo fight mencho because mencho has attacked the Mexican government. Government will bein the sideline and just pick up the bodies.

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  15. Probably Puerto Vallarta is considered neutral territory!
    Narcos probably have a pact with the gvt not to destroy it as a $$$making tourist destination like has happened in Acapulco and Reynosa!
    Relax!
    Just joking about Reynosa!

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    1. Dude PV is one of highest murder rates in world.There is no pact there..

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  16. Who caresss he has 15 kids left ,enough for the soccer team.
    Now back to world news. How bout them Cowboys . And did you hear about the new snickers candy about to be sold? Yummyyy

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    1. And like 500000 nephews in Culiacan! As a matter in fact everyone in Mexico is chapos nephew.

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  17. Let's hope we are gonna have those chapitos decapitated in a standing ovation show! Let the show begin pls!

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  18. El menchito personalmente advirtio a alfredo que se dejara de pasear en jalisco como si fuera suyo o lo iva a sacar y si cumplio.

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    1. Yup it was true , and alfredo spit on his face and punch menchito , told him " que vas aser" well there you he sent his gunman to kill you idiot

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    2. Isn't menchito locked up?

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  19. Alfredo probably in the US for the first time in his life eating in&out.

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  20. El que se fue temprano era el mini lic. Ese compa tiene pleito con Los guzmanez fue el que puso dedo. Otra cosa si andas en el negocio malo, ontan Los guaruras (guarda espaldas). ¿Y Los antraxs donde estabas? Ni modos plebes pa la otra pongasuen al tiro.

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    1. Antrax estan al comando del Mayo pendejo

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  21. CJNG has a shit storm coming their way. Proceso is reporting members of Caro Quintero and Nacho Coronel family members were also kidnapped with Alfredo. Instead of breaking apart Sinaloa those morons from Michoacan united them

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  22. Is it true that the son of La Barbie was kidnapped and possibly killed? The supposed twitter account of one of El Chapo's sons has messages of support for this kid, Edgar Valez Beltran, who they call "Mini Barbie". There is also a youtube video that supposedly has La Barbie talking with his kid. How in the hell are Chapo's sons and La Barbie's kid supposed to be friends?

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  23. Maybe, what if just maybe the brothers have entered a witness protection program with the USA and auto kidnap themselves to disapear?

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    1. Now if I had to choose a theory, @11:40 is on the right path

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  24. Mencho sent a message! U wanna know what it was? Kidnapping his son and saying what the fuck u gonna do? Nothing!!! Chapo is done!!

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    1. Chema that's not chapo son you lame..but your so much a hater you can't even see it, but that's What they want you to believe so there job was accomplished

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    2. Chema , i also love mencho too.

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    3. chapo got sent back to Altiplano and his sons got freed. lmao where you at now with Chapo has no power? Chapo is running Mexico.

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  25. CDS sole purpose is to act as a federation where an attack on one is an attack on all. This was a desperate move knowing there will be an all out manhunt for CJNG members and the big picture where millions of not billions lost in government crackdown on plazas throughout mexico after bodies start dropping.

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  26. Riodoce reports that Chapo's son and his companions have been released. Just like I said they would.

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  27. Alfredo Guzman is now free gracias al Sangre Fria y su equipo de sicarios

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    1. Stfu with that fria crap. Go promote your sorry asss coridos elsewhere.jot

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  28. I post messages most times there's articles and they never get posted...Fuck this site and I'm done telling my fellow Canadians how messed up Mexico is

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    1. @7:34. Maybe you need to look at what you are posting on every article and see if you can figure out why they are not getting posted. Are they comments bashing other commentors? Are they relevant? Are they conspiracy theories blaming drug trafficking on Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, the Bush family, Henry kissinger, the Rockefeller family, corporate Welfare Queens, President Uribe of Columbia, ...etc. that are posted on nearly every article no matter what the subject of the article that are better suited for sites like Infowars and Alex Jones. I would suggest You read the Policy statement of Buggs and try to figure out why you are not getting published.

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  29. This was The plan to get chapo back to Altiplano

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