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Monday, June 20, 2016

“El Mochomito”, nephew of El Chapo, the author of the attack on his mother's house

Alfredo Beltran Guzman El Mochomito, eldest son of Alfredo Beltran Leyva and nephew of Joaquin Guzman Loera El Chapo Guzman has declared war on the leader of the Sinaloa Cartel in La Tuna, the heart of his territory in the Golden Triangle that for decades had been untouchable and a safe place for him and his family.

According to information gathered by Proceso from direct witnesses, the group of more than 50 armed men dressed in black and wearing hoods who attacked Saturday morning La Tuna in Badiraguato, Sinaloa and forcibly entered Consuelo Loera's hacienda, El Chapo mother, acted under the orders of El Mochomito and not on orders of Isidro Meza Flores El Chapo Isidro as it had been reported.


It was confirmed that at the time of the attack Guzman Loera's mother was in the building under the care of a woman who helps with the housework. The group of men entered the house, pointed a gun at the person who cared for Mrs. Consuelo and took away her phone, from the mother of El Chapo they demanded the keys to the house, they stole motorcycles and cut off the Internet of the house.


The assault on the hacienda lasted a few minutes and then the armed group went on shooting and burning the surrounding houses. While the armed group attacked the other inhabitants of the area, Consuelo Loera and the woman who cared for her escape aboard a plane that took off from one of the clandestine airstrips.

"All the men committing the attacks shout out that they are from the Beltran Leyva and that El Mochomito" was the one who sent them there, one of the witnesses told Proceso, which is interpreted as a clear declaration of war. It is states that during the seven days after the attack, the armed men continued the attacks in La Tuna, La Palma and Arroyo Seco intimidating the population who fled the area. And was until Saturday June 18 that the army came to La Tuna.

Those who have seen Consuelo Loera, say that she is still very nervous about what happened, but was not injured and the fact has had no impact on her health.


As it was confirmed this week Joaquin Guzman Loera, who is being held in the Cefereso number 9 in Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua awaiting his extradition was told without many details of the attack on his mother. He reacted with a lot of concern.

Proceso obtained exclusive photographs of La Tuna, where the attack occurred. They are several houses with bullet holes, also vehicles and even the welcome sign to La Tuna.


According to the testimonies, three men were killed in La Tuna and two more in the settlement of Arroyo Seco, and the comando burned the body of a man from the waist down and is currently hospitalized in Culiacan with delicate health.


"In La Tuna, one of the houses pulled lady and set fire to the place for your child to come out. When he left, he was killed in front of the old lady, "one witness told.

"El Mochomito"


Beltrán Guzman, 24, is the eldest son of the Beltran Leyva cartel capo, who was extradited to the United States in November 2014 and is subject to criminal proceedings in the District Court of Columbia.

Beltrán Guzman is a direct nephew of El Chapo Guzman. His grandfather is Ernesto Guzman, son of Emilio Guzman Bustillo, father of El Chapo. His mother is Patricia Nunez Guzman, niece of the leader of the Sinaloa Cartel.

Ernesto Guzman was executed last year in the Golden Triangle. For many years El Mochomito, who ordered the attack on the house of the mother of Joaquin Guzman Loera, was considered as one of the Guzman Loera clan and he will go to family gatherings and was called Tito.

"I'm Alfredo Tito that's the way they call me, I am the son of Mr. Alfredo Beltran he is my father and I would give my life for him, as he will do for me without thinking," says one of the corridos dedicated to the son of the boss.

"La Palma is where these memories were born, advice from my grandfather and my dad, I am today a man and I will never forget those days, in my mind I will always have, the support of my clan so far I have, the same way with my uncle Joaquín Guzman ".

"The horses is something that I like to the rhythm of a good corrido would have to dance, also I have a great fondness for guns, if I need to I also know how to shoot, the blood in my veins is disquieted me, when a northern begins to play. "


"It's nice to have people you can trust, friends with whom you can always count, a big hug and greetings to my friend Neto, also for, mini lic who know that I appreciate his friendship and my cousins ​​Ivan and Alfredo Guzman".

"The experience has come to me over time, contacts and partners are serious, today I am very comfortable and I travel whatever I want, but I'm  respected at a short age," reads the corrido.

Now within the family there is a war looming within the Guzman family.


Old grudges


Beltran Leyva and Guzman Loera were not only family but they were also partners in the mega cartel called the Federation. According to records from the PGR, was Arturo Beltran Leyva El Barbas himself, who for years will sent money to El Chapo to bribe public officials at the maximum security prison in Puente Grande, Jalisco, and to buy senior officials in the federal government, which allowed his escape from prison in January 2001.

After his escape, El Chapo, the Beltran Leyva, Ismael El Mayo Zambada, Ignacio Coronel Aispuro, Vicente Carrillo Fuentes and Juan Jose Esparragoza Moreno El Azul created the Federation in which they converged criminal organizations and territories of all partners and thus grew Guzman Loera power, to become according to the US government, the most powerful drug trafficker in the world.


In January 2008, following the arrest of Alfredo Beltran Leyva in Culiacan, Sinaloa, an internal war broke out between the Federation. Beltran Leyva, Carrillo Fuentes and Los Zetas, created an alliance and began a bloody war that caused more than 60,000 deaths in Mexico in the midst of a bloody battle for territory as Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua.


The arrest of Hector Beltran Leyva in 2014, who had remained as head of the family cartel, had weakened the criminal organization and was left in the hands of El Chapo Isidro. The children of the Beltran Leyva had not assumed an important role within the organization, until today, the emerging leadership of El Mochomito.


According to research conducted within the Guzman Loera family there is great concern not only for the attack happened but because the battle is within the family itself in an unprecedented event.







This article was translated from Proceso

159 comments:

  1. it might just be the gov. doing their dirty deeds again the more divided the better

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    1. Inside job just like when the killed the bishop in Guadalajara and blamed it on Arellanos

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    2. Anon 2:58pm I personally knew people who went to Guadalajara on that occasion and I can tell you it was the Arellano the ones who kill the Bishop.

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    3. 2:58 Evidence?

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    4. Nomas porque dice el pendejo. Lol yall are funny. "I personally knew people who went to Guadalajara on that occasion" swear yall be knowing everybody. Its all hear say pendejo. Nadie sabe nada

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    5. @ Anon 5:57pm So is it true that Chapo got scared and started running like a little bitch? Why I'm asking? LOL! Just wondering?

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    6. 8:13 people knows, but if they talk they die, even the church won't talk, cardinal Sandoval has delivered his report to the pope gorgoglio, to the PGR, to the diocesis, there are many copies, they are available, open for discussion, and investigation, even to carlos salinas de gortari, his defenders and his sicarios, por si un dia les crecen los huevos y quieren defenderse de "las intrigas" del señor Obispo Juan Sandoval de guadalajara y su abogado...fué el gobierno.

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    7. 8:13 evidence?

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    8. Anon 8:13 pm. I honestly don't care if you believe me or not. I grew up on Ligan Heights during that time. I knew Juan Vazcones, he used to live on Imperial Ave in 1993 I knew Adolfo Marin Cuevas, he used to live on L st by 33 ave in 1993, David Barron Corona used to live by the cemetery on Imperial Ave just two blocks down from the little church, his brother and sisters were also involved on his drug distribution business. Yeah I understand why you think people would be lying but I will like to remind you that many criminals were ordinary people before they become famous.

      I also knee Peewee, Tarzan, Oso, Paisa, Gizmo, Spanky, Pato and many more but what's the point of telling you when you still believe on conspiracy theories.

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    9. 11:01 AM
      Brother,of course these guys knew people before and after they became known.Take no notice of smart arses,i would love chop it up with you about some of these guys,could be said they went too far with some of the antics they got up to?The glory years of AFO,nothing lasts forever.Many here do want to hear what your input.. Gracias wey

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    10. That's interesting given my familiarity with Logan Heights. Ignore the dummies here.

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    11. It was the Arellano sicarios the ones who kill the Bishop and Spooky paid with his life por menso. he took the blame for that murder and was killed in a Tijuana prison by orders from the Arellano. He was promised 24, or 25 thousand dollars to take the blame and was never paid. His little brother was 15 or 16 at that time and he is the one who told me. Puma o Cougar was also an idiot, he had just turn 18 when he went to Tijuana and then Guadalajara to kill Chapo Guzman, he had survived drive by shootings and was shot 4 times on the stomach, as far as I remember the last time he was shot he went to the hospital, after that to jail, and when he was released he said he need it money because his girlfriend was pregnant. David was a thief, a Marijuana and PCP dealer when he was younger and he was a dick pinche vato mamon, an arrogant mother fucker. His sisters were pinches mamonas driving Mercedes Benz like if the own the neighborhood. After David was killed his family placed a real big picture on the wall like if he was God or something. El pinche Adolfo was an idiot and he will follow every order from David because he was afraid of him, I don't know if he actually kill people but he was involved when people got killed on orders from David. Pero ni modo, all this mother fuckers are in jail or dead. Live goes on.

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    12. "I also knee Peewee, Tarzan, Oso, Paisa, Gizmo, Spanky, Pato and many more but what's the point of telling you when you still believe on conspiracy theories." So GO DOWN on all of them already......again!!

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    13. Sorry freemanra1 I didn't know that reading something like this will bring the Gay out off you.

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    14. That you knew LOGAN AND THE GANGBANGERS MEANS SHIT.
      --READ THE REPORT OF ARCHBISHOP JUAN SANDOVAL, and then come back with some better crap about the afos and la chapa, bola de güeyes...

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    15. 10:35 PM
      Everybody heard the tales bro,but most here didnt know any these guys,good to hear from someone who knew couple of them.You were younger than all these guys bro,but you seen em out and about,did any of them slang in the neighborhood,brown,white,green,meth ?

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    16. Anon 5:07 PM Yes, they will sell Green, White, Meth and PCP is small quantities until Barron got connected in Tijuana. Most will use drugs more than selling but things did change once Barron got involved. Many went to work with Barron, most people around the neighborhood didn't.

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    17. 9.55
      Some of these guys get the loony tune tag and become straight bullies,dudes you knew from way back,and you dont remember them like that.They dont fuck with ones who know the score,but some turn into fuckin dogs,rippin dealers who you know are just grafting work.Its bad enough stressin fuzz,never mind rats who bully punters for their dough.Everywhere has them.

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  2. Any confirmations on the 150? Anybody know how they got past the security? Oh boy, I better start the popcorn. The looks like it may be a long one.

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    1. 11:52 ahi tá el popcorn en el bote, mira, nomás mete la mano...

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  3. Chapo is the epitome of back stabbing snake he deserves a slow painfull death

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    1. He will die soon

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    2. I concur! Fuck El Chaputo!

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    3. La chapa has been in prison a few times, nothing changed...
      Maybea.chapa is not the "problem", he is just the flash on the pan, to attract pendejos like you that go for it like moscas and mosquitos to the 💩 popó...

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  4. I see death on that boys face . He wont last long.

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    1. He been on since 15 years old

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    2. Dude,that aint no boy,and he gives death.Surprised if it was this guy,outing himself this loud?
      Who knows who they were and whether they are throwing names in the hat to kick it off?

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  5. Anybody can go around saying:
    "yo soy el mochomito" to add fire to the woods, smell a rat.
    --Also how can a 90 year old lady "escape" on an airplane? That smells like another rat.
    --now it was 50 guys and not 150...
    --i swear all el mochomito had to do was ask and he would be given 10 bikes and ten cars, just for the asking, and I doubt anybody would be asking him about HIS BUSINESS, unless the devil promised him something

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    1. Are you trying to tell us that narco capos don't advertise what they do? What about when El Jefe de Jefes will put narco banners on his victims? What about when the Zetas will leave messages when killing people? What about the banners of el Chapo Guzman? Or the ones from El Teo? Or La Linea? Or Caballeros Templarios?

      Maybe it was someone else!

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    2. 1:02 AM
      I agree with you,this Beltran usually stays on the down low.Hes definitely got his own crews whatever,but stealing cars bikes an shit?Maybe it is internal over Guano remember his people getting topped not long ago?

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    3. One thing is for sure, la chapa doesn't know how to write, as for others, it could be anyone, until you match fingerprints, or the writing of blood or dna.
      --We have the problem here on BB with el sol writing his narco messages of love and then saying he didn't do it...

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    4. Policias, would rob two motorcycles and 2 cars, narcos would just shot up the motherfackers, and then set them on fire.

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    5. Bingo we have winner here

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  6. Y el chapo....bien gracias. Creo que fueron los zetas. Los zetas. Los leyva. La linea son amigos.

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    1. Apoco si wow q inteligente apoco si son amigos no lo creo jajajaja k gente eh ignorante en esos negocios no existe la amistad

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    2. @656am....tal vez para ti no...pero la amistad es normal y vale mas que el dinero. entre gente corriente la amistad no vale nada. Entre gente de palabra y los que realmente andan movidos tu palabra cuenta...si das tu palabra y no cumples te carga la verga...En ciertos circulos de gente no entras por que no saben quien eres. Pero si alguien da su palabra que eres gente bien o responden por ti te fian jale..En fin la Amistad valen mas que los billetes...arriba michoacan.

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    3. 12:14 los verdaderos amigos, ni te dan ni te ofrecen "jale", pero te paran la parranda, sin compromisos, tampoco te parchan cuando te agarran pedo, como en Cd Juareeez, que ya ni a sus suegros respetan, pinchis linieros, se salen...

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    4. La unika respuesta correcta que he leido aki.lo malo k gente de palabra ya se acabo.desgrasiadamente la palabra no vale nada mucho menos la vida.zetas y cdg la misma popo

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  7. Wow 50 armed men now? Why can't they just say "approximately", instead of changing the number with a firm amount?

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    1. Dude they were 100 off its not that big of a difference

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  8. Thanks tex. Damn money/power hungry kids! That's the scary part! This younger generation has no respect for family.
    Mn

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    1. Thanks to you anon for your support.

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    2. 4:29 facking up is easy...
      the problem is: how do you kiss and make out later?
      Maybe someone BIG has whispered to el mochomito he is the big great next "gran capo did tutti capi" but he needs a white suit to match with the black shirt, otherwise mochomito looks like a DFS/poolesia judisial federal agente...or municipal...

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  9. Don't believe all the news. Censorship

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  10. 100 extra armed men out of nowhere

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  11. This guy just started something that he will regret...family is now on the menu
    Poor souls

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    1. El Guano started this shit when he ordered the hit on El Mochomo's father in law. Family was already on the menu in 2008 when Chapo gave El Mochomo to the Feds. Know your narco history before you make comments mijo.

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  12. los 2 banderas finally deciding what team they play for and getting revenge for their grandpa's death. We have one thing for sure it's their side of the family that's causing the ruckus, now is it tito? Is it a younger brother? Maybe one of Arturo's kids finally saying fuck it going out like my dad (which I doubt because they would be fighting against Mayo not Guzman Loera... But that's another story...)

    If you haven't understood by now here is what everybody is getting wrong in this story, this action wasn't against el Chapo, it was against his brother el Guano. Tensions have been at an all time high ever since el Chapo's capture in Mazatlan.

    The big looming question is what side are Los Chapito's on, the mochomiyos, or the uncle Guano's. Their was a huge falling out between the shorties and the uncle since the big capture in Mazatlan. If it wasn't for Chapo's escape the big war would have been between the bro and sons.


    Advice to all 3 parties, remember this is 2016 and not the 1980's, where actions like this would settle and END problems. This type of offense is only going to bring heat on you and your overall mission. Don't be just a chess pieces like el Chapo to el Mayo... La Union hace la fuerza, your number one enemy is playing all 3 of you while sitting and skyping DEA agents in el Alamo next to el salado

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  13. Christian Lopez PalafoxJune 20, 2016 at 6:06 AM

    The government is warning chaps about the possible spillage of information that can be harmful to their interests. 50 armed men with hoods were cleared by police and military checkpoints, because they're their own. Poor saps following orders given by corrupt officials, all it takes is a deflection of soldiers against their puppet masters to spark real change.

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  14. It is time for them to pay for what they have done. Thousands of innocent people have been killed by them. So relatives of Capos is fair game.

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    1. its easy to say behind a screen ... i dont think you realize the type of power these guys have.... when you mess with the innocent familly member of a capo alot of people end up dying... people from the gov. and from the attackers familly usually die

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    2. All of a sudden when all narcos have done the same things for years but somehow chapo is the only one

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    3. You are some fucken idiot, they are just stirring the pot.They didn't do nothing to Chapos mom all they did is shoot up the house.

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    4. The adobe houses of la chapa's mom is asking me if la chapa has other houses more worthy of his millions and millions of dollars, becausee even the palapas suck there...

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  15. None of this makes sense unless something is happening with his dad in prison. This guy was known for not really taking sides, but maybe now he thinks chapos power is finished and is a good time to distance himself from them.

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  16. Sooo i'm confused..

    "Mochomito" is leading the Beltran Leyva cartel? Wheres this put Isidro?

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    1. Mochomito lead a big group in the cartel and so does Chapo Isidro

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  17. This guy won't last long he didn't something he should have never done to young to try and flex muscle that way with out having to deal with consequences

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    1. 6:11 he has to start some where. Narco leaders just don't sprout out of the ground full grown. Seems like to me he was just biding his time to make a move. BLO have been quiet and waiting to strike the CDS just like the Juarez cartel did in Chihuahua. The consequences won't find him because he was smart by letting Conseulo escape. And yes he allowed her to escape how else was she able to fly to safety.

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  18. 5:55 keep smelling that pig ass, if I could i'd put la chapa in my prison to steal HIS BUSINESS, but that billion dollars they say he got would be all cash and feel so sweet in my pockets, after he "paid 50 million pesos to escape from Almoloya, the chicken coop want more "maiz"

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  19. Everybody calling Chapo a rat where are the facts? That Chapo set up mocho and botas? Facts facts facts?

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    1. El botas blancas set up Nacho CORONEL so mencho could step in

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    2. Alfredo captured. arturo dead.nacho dead.el pantera dead. guero palma still in prison.muletas betrayed.3 letras betrayed his brother also. His big time rival back in the days CAF almost vanished i can go on forever anymore hints? Ha theres a reason around they call cds EL CARTEL DE LAS TRAICIONES*

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    3. 10:06 para traiciones el PRI, mi güey, 5HEY use and use and use and betray their lame dogs all the time, sometimes all at the same time, for all the marbles

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  20. Watch how fast chapo exterminates the cockaroaches.......

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    1. Just like Chihuahua and Tamaulipas?

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  21. Chapo Guzman is not going to be happy , i bet he his people will hunt down mochomito , Just like when pablos escobar family was attack , pablo became insane crazy , This Little boy cant understand wars bring nothing good , Just look at his tio arturo and his father how thy end it up

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    1. Yes correct but el mochomito hides where its nearly impossible to reach unless you know those mountains real well. Why do you think Los Beltran Leyvas still exist today. Where they stand at they could see you from miles & miles away with out you even knowing it. Plain & simple no matter who you are & even if you have the best fire arms you will be kill trying to even set a foot around those mountains. Beltran Leyvas heavily guard those territories.

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  22. My Dos...

    As I stated on Lucio's Post, and others commented in the like, I feel something for sure happened.

    I did say I thought it was BLO and Isidro and I think that is correct.

    I did say I thought thee is a tie in to Alfredo's (Mochomo) upcoming sentencing, scheduled for June then postponed to July.
    Remember, to the surprise of everyone, including his atty, Mochomo
    pleaded guilty on his trial date.

    He cut no deal, even though the US government was in deal talks for months.

    Many CDS members were set to testify against mochomo, having cut deals of their own. All were, IMO, greater bad guys than Mochomo and I have written that I thought the deal was a bad one for the US.

    I believe the betrayal against mochomo, beginning when chapo really did snitch, and gave up mochomo to the feds in exchange for his son to be freed from prison.

    That began the split and bloody war of chapo and blo.

    I believe if there was an attack.....then the settling of scores of mochomo was a core element of why.

    NOW ERNESTO.
    Ernesto was killed last year.
    He was named as "chapo's brother" then "half brother" yes they share the name guzman and it is possible ernesto was a product of an affair by chapo's father, BUT after the killing, newspapers began questioning where the brother came from, because there are 7 guzman boys and erensto is not among them. Guzman is a common name.

    BUT if he is a love child, then his daughter Patricia is chapo's cousin. Mochomo married patricia. Mochomito is the child of Mochomo and Patricia.

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    1. There you go; we now know who the "chapo snitched" person is = Chivis. Jk.

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    2. Thanks for breaking it down Chivis

      But i beat you to it :P

      I looked up the old 2 articles about the killing of Ernesto to link it to this.. I don't know why it keeps saying "settling of scores".. As I see it the scores are pretty damn 1 sided.. Chapo turned over Machomo, led to Barbas being killed by the marines (his corpse pictured with pants down just like Ernestos), H being captured..

      I mean even if they woulda killed Chapos mom the score could barely be settled..

      Gotta admire Chapito Isidro.. he stayed loyal to the BLO & till the last Beltran Leyva brother was captured & let Mochomito inherit the throne.. Thats amazing lol


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    3. It is a conglomeration of a variety of different beefs that led to this war. The killing of his grandfather might have caused the initial split between the groups.

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    4. There is too much going on right now and it is about time for people to feel the heat. Chapo's family have not been bullet proof, and many have been killed so far. I think all this bull shit is good to put this people on their place.

      Chivis the last two relatives of Chapo to be killed was his half brother and his uncle right?

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    5. Nice Theory Chivis but why until now is the retaliation ??? ~@~

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    6. The once who were going to testify agaist mochomo were Mayo clan (son's,brothers, chino and a Columbian.) Could be the carrillo people?

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    7. A little off subject Chivis, but can we get some updates what is going on with la tuta,z 40, and others that are imprisoned. Any info you can share would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    8. isn't angel guzman the son of el guano. I believe angel was killed in this situation

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    9. at 12:43 because Sinaloa is perceved as weakened

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  23. ivan and alfredo wont like this at all jajaja...i dont think people understand the power they have... all this will be settled pretty soon..and remember chapo will escape prison again as well...just before he gets extradited he will flee and get back into the mix...ivan is working right now on getting his father out..thats why mochomito even had this chance to make a move against ivan and alfredo...there whole focus right now is moving weight and getting their father out of prison..once focus is shifted to mochomito he will be done for...

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    1. wrong chapo will snitch and his sons will be killed

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  24. Hasta en las mejores familias!
    Tenia que suceder. A mi se me hace que de todas maneras a este morro siendo familia de El Chapo no le hacen nada. Simplemente lo van a capturar si se descuida y lo van a castigar.
    Si lo quieren tumbar de adeberas vale mas que se junte con La Linea o alguien mas para de plano no decir Zetas para que lo respalden porke se le va a poner cabron a el guey si no se cuida!
    Queda por ver que le hacen a el nino rebelde este.

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    1. Remember when one of the junior Carrillos was executed for kidnapping and killing one of his grandpas or something. This kid might get a tablisa but may be he just signed his death warrant with this move if he really did it too.I heard other theories which people are starting to post on here as well

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    2. @911am...Mira la verdad es que para tumbar al mayo..entre los zetas los leyva y la linea Le rompen la madre de volada..El problema es que el gobierno mexicano esta de parte del mayo..eso ya se sabe como 30 años y no lo matan.. los zetas no tienen Lider pero son como el sida andan por todos lados, la gente les sobra.los leyva son familia y no rajan pero ocupan gente. la linea esos si que andan a todo.. por mi que se la partan a los mayos me caen pa la verga..se ocupa un cambio de poder...

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  25. This type of attack is a cowardly way to send a message. It also demonstrates weakness and desperation on Mini Titos part.

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    1. El mochomocito maybe forcing the Chapo faction into an all out fight. Many wars and battles were started in the same type of encroachment by a enemy to get a reaction from their target. The Japanese did it to the US in WW2. The US army would attack women and children of native tribe to force the braves to come out of hiding. Obviously those examples are on a much larger scale but you get what I am saying. It's a statement and the BLO is calling out the Chapitos to come out and fight.

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  26. Is this el 2 banderas?

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  27. Ernesto guzmans as killed by el guanos people and I know this first hand guano es jefe de plaza for that zone the attack wasn't to try and take the plaza but was to let the Guzmans know they are at war with el dosbanderas due to him being there more then mochomo was

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    1. "I know this firsthand" oh really trabajas para el oh que pedo? Pinches vatos que nomas hablan por hablar.

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    2. Vivo en culiacan pendejo!

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  28. Lol none of y'all know what the fuck is going on. Pinches huilas de sowing circle. Good job proceso though.

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    1. I know I was thinking the same thing haha. If I was involved in don't think I would comment on bb about it lol

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    2. You don't know either that is why you are here being a troll!!!!

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    3. 6:16-Why wouldn't you comment?You're anonymous.

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    4. @10.23 because you guys on here done matter in the grand scheme of things, your opinions dont matter when it comes to the real life thing. What good would getting on the internet really do?

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    5. "Lol none of y'all know what the fuck is going on. Pinches huilas de sowing circle"
      Well what the fuck are you rading sowing circle comments for?
      Its BorderlandBeat bellend,its about the narco problem and cartels in particular but generally pertaining to Mexico.This is a blog where people have their say and their opinion,and sometimes,Mexicanos on the ground can tell everybody here whats really going on,and i just realized im talking to a fuckin balloon head who just wants to be a smart arse,so end of sermon for today.

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    6. @533 puto I've been reading this blog longer than you've been alive why don't you settle the fuck down with your bullshit and your shoes and cheer up in the same ones you got your panties in a wad in, I say what I say and do what I please fuck stick, none of that involves anything you say

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    7. 7:13 I think your target is 5:23 not 5:33...
      I understand that you are mad with anger, but that ain't no excuuse, being from culoacan or a longtime BB reader is no scuuse either"

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  29. Divide and conquer...

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  30. Seems to me like a poorly executed move considering the amount of influence and resources you have are considerably less than the group your targeting. Chapo may be in jail but he still has greater resources and his network intact. This upstart just put a huge target on his back and attacking ones mom and her house isn't going to make you friends and will not be forgotten anytime soon.

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    1. You forget that this woman's son (El Guano) killed Mochomito's grandfather. Conseulo wasn't harmed because she wasn't the target. The BLO isn't scared of Chapo and his resources. This is an old fashion blood feud and the smartest clan will win. The BLO have alliances with other factions that may make up the difference. Who does the CDS have for backup?

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  31. Ivan is coming for you tito you know you fucked up

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    1. Let's see what kind of balls Ivan has. BLO is much more battle tested than the CDS. I want to know what the CDS can do without the Mexican gov, DEA and CIA's help

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    2. Haha 1142 VERY TRUE! Cds a.k.a CARTEL DE LAS TRAICIONES

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    3. This just shows ivan doesn't have any power. This would've never happened if chapo was still free. Dude should give it up and go live the rest of his life in Europe or a tropical island with daddy's money before he's killed or captured.

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  32. AY viene la revamcha pura GENTE del chaparrito!!!!

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  33. Inside job just like when they killed the bishop at the airport in Guadalajara and blamed it on Arellanos when they were after chapo. Mexican government did it in the mountains of Badiraguato and blamed it on "Tito" Beltran Guzman.

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  34. Chivis #1 sinaloa hater

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    1. Chivis just kicks the facts and she is damn accurate at it. It's not hate my friend.

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  35. they killed his grandpa so he gonna get revenge. surprised they didnt burn down the house

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  36. Hi Chivis I will really like to get your take on this.

    I'm personally sick and tired of articles by so called "experts" saying that El Chapo Guzman was just the "face" of Sinaloa Cartel and that the "brain" of the Sinaloa Cartel is El Mayo Zambada.
    I'm sorry but I think this is completely false, El Chapo along with El Mayo and other leaders when they were alive like Nacho, Azul & Barbas were all the brains and powers behind the Sinaloa cartel. People needto remember that the leaders of the Sinaloa cartel run independent cartels that share resources or collaborate under the CDS banner.
    I'm reading articles in the US where journalists are saying that Mexican officials told them that El Mayo is the leader and "brains" and he gave up El Chapo up who is the "face" because he met Kate Del Castillo.
    Also Anabel Hernandez book "Narcoland" has a aub-chapter titled "El Mayo the Mightiest" they claim that El Mayo was the leader and that he was pulling the strings of El Chapo.
    My take is that this is not true and that El Chapo has always been just as powerful as El Mayo(if not more so because he seems to be more charismatic El Mayo, his charisma is one main reason he was able to persuade his way out of prison).
    So what is your "expert" opinion Chivis, was El Chapo always just the face of the Sinaloa cartel while EL Mayo was the "real leader" or "brains" behind the CDS. Let's not forget if I am not mistaken it was Chapo and Guero Palma that founded the CDS, Mayo came later.

    I will like to get your take Chivis

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    1. I think Mayo and Chapo were equal but are in charge of different elements of the cartel. Like Lazca and Z40. I never bought into the Mayo is king and chapo the face. Made no sense. El Padrino gave Chapo and Guero Palma equal control of the cartel. So Chapo always had top billing from that point on. It is doubtful that he would bring anyone in to have more power than himself.

      Burn the book.

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    2. The polar version that "el padrino" split the plazas and Gabe each his own, seems to be all wrong, since the carrillo fuentes and their imprisoned uncle don neto went with CDJ on Cd juareeez cartel, and el padrino went from aguascalientes to tijuas with don Chuy Labra and the beltranuses, and chilango jorge hank rohn, and la chapa, beltranuses el mayo, went with quintero, after the not so mysterious death of amao carrillo f, all the way to now, chilangos involved from el DF IN ALL THE DRUG TRAFFICKING CRAP...

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    3. Chivis thank you for your reply. I agree with you. Like Stratfor says there is a lot of misinformation from websites and people in this war on drugs, you have to be careful to find the truth.

      "Burn the book" lol I thought Anabel Hernandez book was the best to learn about the drug war. One major point of the book Narcoland aka "Senores Del Narco" is that the Mexican government supported the CDS aginst other cartels while Stratfor says that that is not the case and the government was going against all the cartels equally. Stratfor says if this was the case then why did they extradite El Mayo's sons etc.

      I think legalization may be the answer to the bloodshed in Mexico or maybe when all the cartels break down into smaller gangs like they are currently doing then peace will slowly come back to Mexico, I'm not sure.

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    4. Guzman's public exploits as of late shows his ignorance. He's weak in life. Someone else has to be in charge.

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  37. Is anyone covering Oaxaca? I heard a journalist was conveniently including in the dead. Then 15, including teachers, we're disappeared.

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    1. whats going on there?

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    2. Check google yahoo youtube for the last news about:
      --oaxaca: otro crimen de estado
      --oaxaca: epn culpa a osorio chong, quiere su renuncia.
      --oaxaca: culpan a gabino cue el gobernador por puto y asesino

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  38. Now SCHOOL is out too..........

    http://riodoce.mx/noticias/suspenden-clases-en-15-escuelas-de-badiraguato

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  39. Muchas Gracias Tex y Chivis !!

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    1. Gracias a ti anon por tu apoyo a este blog

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  40. The title is wrong, this attack wasn't directed towards chapos mom it was directed toward chapos brother Aureliano "guano" Guzman. Who is strongly rumored to have been the one who ordered "el 02" to kill don Ernesto Guzman, el Mochomillos grandpa. "02" was tortured and watched his son die in front of him but never was clear on who ordered the hit. But with all the rumors pointing at " guano" el Mochomillo is looking for revenge and wants guano and his people dead. Ivan and Alfredo, Mayo Zambadas, mayito flaco , mini Lic,el licensiado are gonna have to sit this one out or join the fight. But Alfredo Beltran Guzman might be young but he's got support from Chapo Isidro , H2, El H , Humberto Beltran Leyva , not to mention he inherited a lot of money and property and most of mochomo a people are under his orders, not to mention Arturo Beltran Leyvas people , Los Zetas now known as CDN, Nuevo Cartel de Juarez . He can definitely go to war with anyone.

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    1. That's a good point. Alfredo not making a plea deal carries a lof of weight as all of the CDS guys, Zambado kids, Chino made plea deals.

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    2. Why do you say is wrong? Do you have a link for the information you just presented?

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    3. I think you pretty much nailed it. Don't forget the BLO, still have all that support and aren't dead as most think. EL H2, H9 el Katch, Chapito Isidro and la Mochomera are still very much present. Humberto his uncle and his people. I am with you, I just don't see Mayo Zamabada, El Lic or even Alfredo and Ivan getting involved. That is a family beef and it's likely to get ugly. El Tito eventually was going to break into the role, with el Mochomo up North and likely spending years and years in a American cave he had to step up to his plate.

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    4. Thought El Katch was dead?..

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  41. Damn! All the way in to his mama's house. These fools can't get a grip. No they didn't kill her. It's gonna get nasty in Sinaloa. Oh well there's nothing else to do, but war. Seems like education and proper family living are out the window.

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  42. Mochomito is in the perfect position to fight against the guzmans right now. They are obviously losing a lot of power, and no one wants to take orders from the two brats ivan and alfredo. I've heard there is competition between the Guzman brothers and tito, but who really knows.

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  43. I heard it was a hit on aureliano guzman who of course got away

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  44. In their Dedperation.... Chapos sons will fall in line with CJNG..... Its simple math. If BLO...TeTaz and Mayo are all in collaboration. Chapos peoples are outgunned... Not enough men to fight this war. When your at War. You loose money...Ya aint making it... The only alliance that makes sense is to make allies... CJNG is the STRONGEST...WEALTHIEST... SMARTEST.... They have a presence in TeTaz turf... In Mayos old Turf T.J...and the BLOs. If that Alliance is made... Immagine what could be accomplished. Complete solification of the West in Mexico... And with the big ports in Veracruz under the thumb of the CJNG... And with their presence in Tamaulipas and cintrol of Central Veracruz... They would be half way done with the East... Only makes sense to make allies of CDG... That way everything is exact...

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    1. 11:31 Do you think Mini Lic would support Los Chapitos if they allied with CJNG or would they split?

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    2. Cjng damaso already have an alliance so I'm sure Ivan y Alfredo said it was fine to work together con dinero baila el perro and that's something cds and cjng have

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    3. Cjng are stronger because they have a lies everywhere

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    4. In theory sounds good and makes sense but too many secrets get surfaced and then they can't be trusted because they are criminals.Partnerships only work with honest people and then again even then not always.

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    5. CJNG is weakening as we speak. The infighting bug has embedded itself deep inside Mencho's ranks. Don't be surprised when they land on the extinct list like CT and La Familia.

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    6. Yeah same with CDS

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  45. Chapo,ivan, alfredo know the gov did this I personally know that there will be no retaliation because this is a warning for him not to snitch or maybe netflix ordred this to happen

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    1. 1:32 how do you personally know this but cant say whether it was the gov/military did it or if netflix ordered it for the el chapo story..

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    2. @1:32am

      I agree but I think the reason the government did it was because el Sapo stop paying protection money. IMO he felt he shouldn't pay anymore, anyways he's locked up and then the government showed him why he should continue paying

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  46. mochomito is alfredos other son from a different relationship. he has always been 100% beltran and there has always been conflict between him and tito. tito claims to be the chosen one and the favorite of his uncle arturo.

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    1. wtf are you talking about 6:44 el michimomitovis tito lols damb like a hundred times borderland beat posted tito is mochomito and you sit here and make up this whole story lols cocaine is a helluva drug...like i say a everytime and yall prove me right with yall comments yall hallucinate and makevup these stories sitting on your couch beating down them keyboard buttons and to put the icing on it yall finish it with ,I HAVE FIRST UAND INFORMATION LOLS...SMFH

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    2. Thought they were the same guy

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    3. 4:45 PM
      Dude,where and which son is Alfredo Beltran Leyva in all this?Is he involved in the family business like Tito?

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    4. He's trolling I don't know why BB lets in assholes like 6:44. tito and mochomito and alfredito are all the same. patricia guzman anf alfredo beltran leyva's son.

      his name is alfredo beltran guzman

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  47. Mexican government written all over it.....

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  48. Yet I keep reading comments on other stories that say " I moved from michoacan To Sinaloa because they don't mess with people there" lol or "in Sinaloa the capos respect and don't mess with average citizens" lol

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    1. Sinaloa is in denial, they always say it's calm and nothing happens but Older guys from there will tell you it's crazy. I know a few that can't go back because some family members are in the game and they are easy targets and gatta watch their back. Sicarios law abiding citizens?.. smh.. sure... Lol

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  49. la Gente del Cholo ,Las Fuerzas Especiales del Mini Lic ,El Comando de los empolvados ,Y los Antrax New Generation
    y los Avengers de Sinaloa are in standby ...Ajuaaaaaa.

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    1. Yeah y tambien el chapulin colorado junto con el chompiras tan listos pinche mariguano de basura

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  50. 11:31 Do you think Mini Lic would approve of a Chapitos - CJNG alliance?

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  51. Mochomito and Tito are two different people?

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    1. Mochomito , Tito , Alfredito , el dos banderas are the same person

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    2. tito aka alfredito aka dos banderas isn't el mochomito.

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  52. I am friends with Alfredo and to anyone who try's to ash and tell me I don't know anything. I was his cellie and he calls me daily. My wife talks to his 2nd wife. His son Alfredo calls me wvery now and again to make sure me and my wife are okay and if we need anything. A lot of comments think they have it figured out this is all planned out this wasn't the BLO at all it was government trying to start a war so they have a reason to try and intervien. I talked to little Alfredo last night and told him to read this article that was written. No he was not in charge since he was 15 that's a false fact. Alfredo has 3 wife's one is the cousin to el chapo and the 2nd is his niece. His brother knew all about them and supported Alfredo with his decisions

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    1. Another one from "over-theres" folks. I put it up for entertainment.

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    2. What's up chivis ? Are u guys trying to control tge narrative ? Where more comments ?

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  53. chivis I believed him lol

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    1. Ay que graciosito hijo de la gran puta zerote

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