Friday, February 12, 2016

Margarito Flores and Juan Carlos “Chupeta” Ramirez will testify against Alfredo Beltran

 Lucio R. with C.E. Martinez for Borderland Beat

Drug trafficker turned government witness, Margarito Flores and Colombian drug trafficker Juan Carlos “Chupeta” Ramirez Abadia will testify against Alfredo “El Mochomo” Beltran Leyva, in the U.S. case against the former leader of the Beltran Leyva Organization (BLO).  

Other than Jesus “El Rey” Zambada, no other Zambada will give testimony in the case.

The Flores Twins
The Chicago based Margarito and his twin brother Pedro, were once mega drug distributors for both the Sinaloa Cartel, and BLO, before they turned witnesses for the state.

With the information and evidence the Flores twins furnished the U.S. government, more than 50 suspects were charged.  The majority of those given up by the twins, were from the Sinaloa cartel, including Sinaloa’spremier leader, Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman Loera, and (Jesus) Vicente Zambada Niebla (VZN), the high ranking leader in the Sinaloa cartel, and son of its other premier leader, Ismael “El Mayo” Zambada García.

The twins recorded 54 conversations, for the government, between themselves and 14 key persons in the drug trafficking business, including one between El Chapo and Pedro Flores in 2008.  

In that telephone conversation, Pedro negotiates the prices of a shipment. (Transcript below)

It was the information and work by the twins that led to the Chicago indictment against El Chapo.

The twins had multiple key meetings with VZN and recorded two conversations in 2008.  In one meeting, 

VZN asked Margarito to use his connection back in the states to access weapons.  According to federal documents, as Margarito stood on an airstrip waiting to leave the mountain top meeting, VZN mentioned the weapons again, "we do not need that small shit, I want to blow up buildings, and we need bazookas, grenade launchers ...."

Margarito follows up this conversation with a recorded phone call, where VZN finalizes the order. (see transcript below)

There are three exhibits included in the “motion to depart from sentencing guidelines”, filed on behalf of the twins for favorable sentencing.. In the document, the US generously praises the men for their work, and includes three exhibits.
Exhibit "A" The summary of recordings made ​​by the Flores brothers 
Exhibit "B" Drug seizures due to the cooperation of the Flores brothers

Exhibit "C" A list of defendants charged, in substantial part, because of the twins cooperation. (over four dozen names)
Additionally, there is the BLO indictment,  derived from the information and cooperation of the brothers.

Nowhere in this influx of information, testimony of events, and the naming of specific individuals, does the name Alfredo Beltran Leyva appear. 

Juan Carlos "Chupeta" Ramirez Abadia

He was considered one of the world’s major drug traffickers, Juan Carlos Ramirez Abadia, alias "Chupeta" was identified as the head of the Norte del Valle Cartel and was  the most wanted drug trafficker by the DEA. He was arrested in Sao Paulo, Brazil in 2007.

Ramirez was wanted in the U.S. on drug trafficking, murder and RICO charges.  In Addition to the trafficking of cocaine, he participated in money laundering and trafficking of heroin. Through Ramirez illegal enterprise,  he amassed a fortune estimated at $ 1.8 billion by the US Department of State.

He was cited as "... one of the most powerful and elusive drug traffickers in Colombia" by  Adam J. Szubin, Director of the US Department of the Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control.

At the time of His capture, the chief of the Brazil Federal police Declared, "This is the most wanted drug trafficker in the world, wanted by the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), which offered five million dollars for information on his whereabouts."

Police Seized some 97 million U.S. dollars  Ramirez had stashed in five houses, in different neighborhoods.


According to the Brazilian Federal Police, Ramirez, was arrested in "Operation Farrapos" aimed at dismantling an international drug ring, using Brazil as a drug transport bridge.

Colombian newspaper "El Espectador" reported, that Ramirez took over as head of the business after gaining the trust of the  drug lord of the Norte del Valle cartel.

After committing several murders in Colombia, he tortured and murdered Tocayo Ocampo, after learning Ocampo was working with US agencies.

That murder sparked a war with  capo Wilber Varela, which resulted in Ramirez fleeing to Brazil, where he was eventually captured.

At the time of his capture, he had already undergone several facial surgeries to conceal his identity, with bizarre results.  This former "World's Most Wanted Drug Trafficker" will testify Against Alfredo Beltran Leyva as a cooperating witness for the United States.

These two witnesses, and those named in our previous post, El Rey, La Barbie, El Grande, El Conejo completes the list of narco bigs who will testify in Betran Alfredo Leyva's trial.

Below is the summary of recorded conversations of the Flores brothers bottom far right click on icon to enlarge, scroll down for all eight pages


Chapo and VZN recordings transcripts




Corrections from previous post:

Alfredo was wearing "tinted" prescription glasses in court, not dark sun glasses.  
He will be able to wear street clothes during the trial, just not in pretrial hearings

140 comments:

  1. HPEFULLY, Chivis can do her magic and post the documents mentioned in the post.

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  2. Fucking snitches! Alfredo Beltran still to date hasn't given up a bit of intel and I don't expect him to anytime soon. Although seeing all these people snitching on you and knowing you have just as much on them, it will be extremely hard to keep quite for Mochomo. I think he gets out in 7 years

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    1. Yeah right and I was born just yesterday

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    2. This is America. He'll get life. And all the snitches will get 20-30. And I'm sure BL will end up flipping on them too. But it might be to late. It will diffently start some fires down the road.

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    3. Iv been in the American federal system . Theres a lot of bullshit in it. Lotta lies, its a screwed up system. All they have on bl is a he said , she said case. There is no money. Tgere is no drugs or bodies. Just he said she said. And it looks like half these people never heard them say anything. But they jump on the case and the USA allows it. He'll still get life.

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    4. Guero palmas case was pretty similar in tht they didn't have any evidence and he got what? 15 years? He won't get life, no way

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    5. I'm not to sure but I think when a witness becomes a witness to get lenient treatment , they have to come clean and it all ends up in one bundle . Other wise it would be just a deal of nobody being a witness .

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    6. As a suspected enemy combatant, the US does not even need a trial, just send him to Guantanamo and rectal-feed el mochomo, vzn ordered big weapons, and all he has to do is blame Alfredo to get free, el mochomo is not bringing bigger capos of drug trafficking as a part of his deal, do you see the "horizontal" campaign? No televisa executives, no politicians, no women, no mexican/arab billionaires, not even CIA narco-associates... ----nothing good there but sssh!

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    7. Dont call him mochomo no mo',
      Call him Julius Ceasar 'cause that's literally what they doing to this nigga.
      No loyalty on this game.
      No les dara verguenza a estas pinches ratotas no que muy malditos? Bitch ass niggas

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  3. Idk about the Colombian cat but el Otro pendejo never even met the guy in person the US just cut some Major deals with these dudes lol I bet after that trail they all get to go live with other identities and others will be out in a couple years

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    1. 10:13 they are all giving up the business to the new world drug traffickers, easy peasy, they must be in the process of legalizing the industry of drug trafficking the way "they" legalized the "industry of gambling" and "chicken farms" and "masseuses" with full service after stealing them from the biiig baaad mob...just wait and see...

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  4. Wow.finally chupeta appears. He couldn't be found in the federal bureau list of prisoners..now we know why...I have been following this guy's since before he got busted...a narco corrido called "cruz de amapola" is about him...

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    1. I know I thought chupeta was out free I spent so much time researching chupeta relief to know he's there at least

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    2. Well, you know, the rich and the influential, try to keep their putas and concubines secret, away, somewhere safe, producing $$$ for da' pimpin...

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    3. Wow this is the first bit of news on Chupeta, I thought he had managed to workout a deal in his favor. I wonder where they have been keeping him stashed.

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  5. Everyone knows what business they joined pa luego andar de lengua suelta bola de culones..in the us get a good lawyer pay mills and u can get 15-20 years better than any jail in mexico and plus u will eventually get out

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  6. Como que ya se lo cargo el payaso a la mochomera, hasta ese pinche sapo colombiano cara deformada le tiraron? Será que si lo quieren dejar para siempre en la jaula para gorillas? No que solo necesitan un supuesto witness para undir a alguien, &ntonces

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    1. He won't get life.....it's just a way to keep him in jail for as long as Puto nieto is the president.....that Puto backstabbed los Beltran and he scared as shit of them now since he's nows they don't olay around

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  7. Wonder how many little wanna be gangster cartel types idolize people like the twins, only to see them become sell out snitches aaaaa ha ha ha

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    1. So what happens now don't tell me the CDS still supplying their gang.I'd figure they'd be cut off. Greed is a funny thing.

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    2. Chapo had their dad killed the second he crossed into Mexico once Chapo found out the twins were snitching.

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  8. Snitch snitch snitch.... Is there any Cartel Boss who doesn't end up shot dead on the run, in prison or snitching..???

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    1. El azul and many more we don't know about. The ones that have a low profile last

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    2. El azul spent 7 years in prison and is currently on the run, hiding. Don't ask me how I know.

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    3. Mr Asia is as far as I know, the only drug trafficker to ever make his money, get out, and no one knows who he really is or what he looks like.

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  9. I wonder if they can line up anyone else. Jesus maybe they can find the guy who ran the taco cart out in front of his apartment. No mms.

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  10. Nice read Lucio.. Specially on that "Chupeta" guy, I wanna know more about Cartel Norte Del Valle

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    1. Watch the novela el cartel de los sapos its about el norte del valle cartel

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  11. Good article! Carlos Ramirez Abadia is big fish. According to the United States he had an estimated net worth of $1.8 billion dollars. Makes you wonder if it's not more than that. But anyhow, we always talk about El Chapo, El Mayo, Fuentes Carrillo, and all of the Mexican Cartel leaders, but we must remember, the Columbian Cartel leaders are big time too. I think with the cartels in Mexico act, with violence and with all of the immigration issues, it makes the Mexican Cartels stick out like sore thumbs. I'm not saying the guys in Columbia a moral drug lords, but if Escobar had kept his cool, the Medellin Cartel would have been around longer. Some folks think Columbian Cartels are dead, but they are not. Where do people think the Mexican Cartels get their coke from? Stop all of the violence, learn to operate together, call a truce to the BS, and the attention would turn away from the Mexican Cartels. People talk about how smart drug lords in Mexico are. If they were smart, they'd work with one another to stop the violence. Putting the fear of death in people does not put you in charge. It puts a bulls eye on your back.

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    1. Lol colombians are a bunch of pussies. Besides pablo all of them have been snitches. As of today mexicans are the ones who are bosses and colombians are just their workers....and mexico gets their coke from Bolivia and other countries in South America as well not just colombia it's not the 80s anymore

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    2. Don't be so ignorant,The Mexican cartels are already in Peru and Bolivia growing their own Coca plantations.They are trying to cut out the middle man.Also what do you mean they should work together to stop the violence.?*The cocaine that they sell creates way more violence and death globally.Crack junkies killing,robbing,stealing ect.Also the gangs that sell the product creates a never ending cycle of crime.

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    3. Coke is mainly grown in Peru nowadays.

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    4. More Coca is grown in Colombia theyre has been a huge boom in the Antiqua region. Dont kid yourself the colombians control the cocaine business. you guys are high if you believe the mexicans are taking over the coca market in south america

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    5. @ 2:10pm I tell you the saying in the US federal system, They have ones that rat, and ones that wish they rat...

      In mexico the government is so courrupt you have no reason to rat.. Bring those same people through US courts they tell on their moms.. I will tell you what the problem is.. All those promises of taking care of your family when you go away, paying for your legal team, etc is bullshit.. The business is so cut throat your brothers one day and the next everyones numbers changed..

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  12. I will try to add the documents. I just added the recorded conversations. I am not too happy with the result and I took it directly from PACER. My apologies :( but at least it is something

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    1. Chivis if margarito flores was already sentenced, what is the point in snitching? To get ever more time off?? or was this just some old information he already have?

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    2. Part of the plea. But yes of course it is old, very old. I just don't get it. It will be interesting...I hope

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    3. @2:02
      yes they have already snitched and got sentenced...but part of most high level informant deals are that they will testify in any upcoming trials that they can help the U.S. Government prosecute a certain individual...for example,sammy "the bull" gravano testified for the Government various other times after the Gotti case...and also a lot of snitches who have been released into the witness protection program have also been called back to testify at certain trials...so yeah the flores twins will definitely be used to testify against mochomo and im sure they will use the flores twins to testify against el chapo as well if he gets extradited to the U.S. ...

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    4. The Govt is making them testify, its part of the bargain plea deal they made with the feds. Mochomo will give them the death stare and im sure they will feel like rat scum that got their own dad killed because of their snitching.

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    5. It's called inflation wise up. Every Mexican government party has there people to do their dirty untaxed money. That's why there wouldn't be a truce. Plus fear devastation and war brings ten times more money than living in harmony.

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    6. Chiva are you still driving a PACER? MAAN, I HOPE GEORGE ROMNEY GAVE IT TO YOU IN PERSON...
      --HE went and invested all over mexico, and erected big concrete boxes for American Motors, that chiguagüeño made the biggest and the baddest of the ugly texans jealous, while his son made a lot of texans a lot of billions of dollars with his money laundering skills...

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  13. They really want to put mochomo away.just with the Flores testimony alone he's screwed,but with the Colombian he's screwed all the away around

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  14. Puro pa delante mi mochomo!

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  15. Mochomo out by 2017 it appears he really is a big boss and will pay his way out

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    1. You can't be serious?

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    2. Lol US is just as corrupt as mexico if not more only they do it behind the scenes

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    3. You Mexicans like to believe that you think all countries are like yours and what is normal in your country is normal in others.Far from it.

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  16. Interesting note: the current leader of the Sinaloa cartel was born in Durango, Ivan archivaldo Guzman Salazar, chapos first son.Many heavyweights that work with the Sinaloa Cartel or independent that are low key are from Durango, example: nacho coronel. Durango the state is very important when it comes to drug traffickers, but most are very low key .

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    1. That's been known.....Durango and Sinaloa produce all the top bosses

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    2. whats your point?

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    3. La mera sierra.

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    4. Ivan Guzman was born in zapopan Jalisco . He used to live there until they had problems with menchos people

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    5. Ivan Guzman was born in zapopan Jalisco .

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    6. @3:19 and 3:57 your both idiots he was arrested in Zapopan, Jalisco around 2005 but was born in 1983 in Durango.

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    7. I thought Ivan had his own fraction under CDS and that the second son Alfredo controlled things when Chapo was in prison.

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  17. Some people live 2 destroy me. While others live 2 employ me. Thank you Uncle Sam 4 every pay check. - El Sol Perdido

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    1. Bro you have really fell off your horse das lastima compa stop it already

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    2. Maybe they just use you, sol, and you are supposed to be happy with your lot, but you ain't because you always remember, 5HEY GA e 6ou a "job" and you sold out, but there is a way out, you know? Judas hanged himself, it remedied nothing, but he tried.

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  18. Don't under stand why do they want to fuck el mochomo all around what's the the reason!!!

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  19. So mayos snitch ass sons are not testifying against mochomo??? Who are they snitching on then???

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  20. I'm no criminal, but it seems to me if you think you get into the drug game, and make money. Than you should be man enough to do your time, without trying to take others down with you. Being a rat, no se vale, when it comes to the drug game. Murders, rapes, robberies,known pedophiles go ahead and rat away.

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    1. Agreed....you know what you're getting yourself into, so if you don't have the balls to do the time don't do the crime. Especially in the case of VZN who was already a Rich boy.....he couldve gone abroad to a top school paid for by his brother and live a nice and stress free life, but now him and his family are known as rats and he will never return to sinaloa and never see his family again....these narco juniors all seem so stupid.... Only one who has come out smart is Tito and Chavo Felix. Tito only because he has a fine bloodline in him, the beltranes are proven

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    2. It goes with the turf, grameros do not enjoy insurance and always get nabbed by the cops who too often work for the competence, what follows is: rat on the pendejos that do not get you released quick enough aaight?
      --then they start rat/snitching on the higher ups and up and up...for not sharing, on time, with the "proper autoridades", voluntarily...

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    3. Well, they're gang members. Which means they're cowards who can't fend for themselves. And they're drug dealers, which means they're incredibly lazy, with a quick-fix mentality. These are inheritly ratty type people. Always been that way too. The first Godfather Mafioso snitched on everyone, and everyone snitched on everyone else. It's the nature of these people because they're lazy, cowardly people. The only variable is the drug dealer who still holds the moral code of never snitching, even under dire consequence. The only time you see this kind of loyalty to the code is in small-time drug dealers, very rare with the big fish. I find it funny that the big fish came up with the don't snitch mantra, they're the only ones that you need to worry about snitching.

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    4. @8:58 vzn is not ratting. His uncle el rez zambada is

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    5. Snitching is good for everybody, only Little Red Riding Hood believes she is not to tell she knew what was up with the Biig Baaad Wolf...
      Rat and snitch to your heart's content, I tell my prospectors trying to recruit me I WILL SNITCH IF THEY CATCH ME AND TELL EVERYTHING, AND I HAVE NEVER LOST ONE FRIEND FOR SAYING THAT.

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  21. Colombian drug dealers today are alot different from the Colombians of the Pablo era. The Mexicans will never surpass the Colombians in the Cocaine business you are dreaming if you believe that. Meth and Heroin Ok Mexicans have that on lock down. Cocaine different story......

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    1. You are talking out of your ass. Colombians are no where near as important as they were 30-40 years ago, most mexicans don't even need them anymore

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    2. Of course they need Colombia...C O C A I N E

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    3. Colombia isn't the only country that produces coke....

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    4. You are high on glue. 70 percent of colombia is controlled by the guerillas you retard. yeah there just going to let the cartels move in yeah ok buds...

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    5. Televisa has a good connect now, for ten million.dollars, Laura de Meexicooo!!! Straight from a peruvian prison...
      --Colombia is just the Mercado de Abastos where the poor farmers are desplumados y despellejados by the middle men...
      (I mean pluck and skinned) and the process technicians that make the coca leaves cocaine...for the american masters of deception that stole the business essential from Don Pablo, and used the BLO too for a while...

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    6. When will you understand cocaine isn't exclusive to colombia? Get with the times kiddo

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    7. A large majority of cocaine grown and produced in Peru and Bolivia is controlled by familys that have been in the region since the begining of the cocaine trade. It would be like sinaloa taking over the gulf cartel. its not going to happen local people alway control the local markets. get that threw your heads fan boys

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  22. When my dad found out what I was doing. He pulled me to the side and said ' mijo nomas porque andas con los muchachos y asiendo dinero no the ase un hombre. Eres un hombre cuando te agaran y the quedas callado. ESO es ser hombre. Arriba Chihuahua

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    1. Maybe you should go to school instead bro

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    2. Bien dicho parienthe
      Arriva Durango Chihuahua Tamaulipas y Zacatecas compas

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    3. What if they snitched on you "hombre"?

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    4. Then that makes them the snitch. Simple formula there. 1:04

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    5. and then he spanked you and told you to go to the corner your grounded lol

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  23. That video of El Chapo questioning the prisoner was probably recorded by Margarito Flores when he had the meeting up on the mountain top with mayo and chapo and vzn

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  24. Even Christ was betrayed by one of his trusted apostles. What makes you think that any narco-trafficker will not be betrayed. The premise of being a man and not telling only holds water in anonymity. Everyone will give someone or something up when their onw hide is at stake. To think otherwise is not a realistic expectation or to think "Not me" it is also not realistic. If you live a life style that promotes destruction what do you spect. Just my two cents. The hardest thing in life is telling the truth, the second hardest thing is doing what you are supposed to do because. There is no notoriety in living an honest work and family oriented life. We all want to be special.

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    1. How the hell can you mention Christ & narco traficantes in the same breathe???

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  25. Vicente zamabada won't be testifying already confirmed

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  26. Zs, Zambadas, Colombianos, Chicago Cartels, SNITCHES, it's all fun and games while your at it, but when shit gets real se aculan TODOS! We all do anything for life and freedom, Freedom and life 2 things we all need and bet you all these drug lords are willing to pay any amount even go bankrupt lol just for there freedom! Pocos Hombres hay como El Mochomo he's the true meaning of a Drug Baron, Leyvas have demonstrated true life of narco traficantes, Botas Blancas prefers death and battle then prison or talking so does Julio Beltran, Mochomo stays quiet and has played the system so good that the only evidence they have is Snitches!

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    1. It's a game and I agree, the Beltran Leyva Bros have played it right. El Lp

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    2. It's a game and I agree, the Beltran Leyva Bros have played it right. El Lp

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    3. yup crazy how one has pushed the same amount of dirt as the other and yet still decide to push you to the hole and point fingers at you, Que no mamen pinches Ratas

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    4. Botas got killed he didn't shoot it out

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    5. Julio Beltran isn't related to the BLs......although all Beltrans are pretty much proven

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    6. thanks for the 411

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  27. Gor all you fools think that Alfredo is not catching a case your wrong. There is people saing he did it so he will get some time. Jury will realize it and be charged, especialy when theres an all white jury. Been in the system so I know

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    1. 'an all white jury'
      Give me a fuckin break,do you think white juries dont sentence white people?Been in the system i know,stop whining,did you do it,yes,you got caught you got sentenced,you sound like a bitch.
      Color of the jury have to do with it?You been in the system cause you got caught asshole?

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    2. 8:39 la pinchi malinchi en accion...
      It is a fact that people "of color" get fack more often by the mostly white law systems of the US, AND if you bother to check, some latinos and blacks even get the death penalty and are executed knowing full wl that they were innocent, "but the Prostiturer made such a good case, nice and professional, by the book" that he just gotta get his way...Texas vs Cantu...

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    3. All white? nice try. If you have been in the system you would know that you dont go to trial. 93% percent conviction rate. The goverment has unlimited resources and and a incarcarated witness list a mile long. In a federal conspiracy case it takes two witness's and your guilty.. The only lawyers looking to go to trial are the one's lining their pockets.

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  28. @ 7:24pm that my friend is the real truth even though U have these fake PUTAS sayN otherwise....that's the truth real shit it's only a 1% but they out there....not just these motorcycle gang's:)

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  29. That Columbian guy tortured and murdered someone for snitching and look at him go!Practice what you preach!

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  30. Great deal . I love when they get caught and turn on each other . 2 things happen 1 it gets more scumbags off the street and 2 it shows the youngster the real color of the fuckers . YELLOW

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  31. Cuando te agarran y no hablas eres un pendejo que vas a pagar los platos rotos por otros pendejos que si hablan.
    real men do not take the money first of all, and may partake of the fun, but never sell it to others, and never entrap others to make money, and warn them as a friend about what to expect from the business and the life of a drug trafficker, and does not care if the friend gets "offended" because he "old enuff and is free to choose"

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  32. Everyone from top to bottom is Finished

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  33. Im sorry but i cant believe a word the US government says,no mention of Mochomo anywhere but they can pull witnesses out to testify

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  34. Has anyone ever wonder if Arturo Beltran snitch on his own brother Alfredo on the where he was so he would blame it on chapo and thus start his own cartel and war. He knew Alfredo would never be ok with going against chapo so he got rid of him first without killing him.

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    1. Never looked at it that way. But it makes sense because mochomo was part of chapo security and logistics

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    2. Get your head checked. Arturo cared about his brothers more than anything. Arturo had no reason to go against Chapo until he snitched on Alfredo.

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    3. Dumbest thing I ever read on here. The truth is the government was coming down on the sinaloa cartel one way or another. They all knew it its just that mochomo was caught too easy and so they suspected a setup. The cartel had grown too big and calderon tried to slow it down so i guess they tried to sacrifice somebody and then a war broke out but they did snitch on him.

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  35. The feds wanted Arturo. He is the one on the indictment after the flores brothers ratted. they never spoke about alfredo.

    so Arturo is dead, guess now they want a Beltran Leyva so Alfredo is it. I am all for bad guys getting penned, but in this case it looks manufactured to get a conviction.

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  36. All this shows who was the power house and who they all feared BLO!

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    1. Speak for yourself Guzman ain't fearing no blo. All this sounds to me like is a conviction

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    2. It's well known Chapo would shit his pants whenever someone mentioned Botas blancas

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    3. Botas shit his pants. Chapo stayed in Sinaloa when the war started. Botas fled to Morelia so who shitted there parents? Botas did

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  37. Zetas, Zambada, Colombianos, Chicago Cartels, Italians Mafia,Irish Mafia all turn SNITCHES(NOT BY CHOICE), it's all fun and games while your at it. But when the mighty & hypocritical US gov catches you your fucked they don't like competition.

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    1. If you don't sing they pile the crap on your ass ten to a hundred times bigger than what you really did, if someone was not going to sing, that cooks it for them, States Attorneys can lie their ass off in court, the judges know it and allow it, because they all are one and the same, defense lawyers thrive under that "shitstem" and help elect each other...

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  38. BLO were the biggest rats in Mexico.
    They would rat to the the authorities for them to tale care of their competition.
    Fact!

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    1. In Mexico they use corrupt police to make hits on rivals..thats not being a rat.every cartel does it.when you get busted and sing like a bitch thats a rat..like Barbie..Zambada..ect

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    2. I think you mean chapo and mayo.

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  39. The Big Pharma Godfathers had enough of their pharma drug sales being undercut by the Mexican cartels cheap drugs, so they had Darth scoop them up and put their nuts in a vice!
    Once you put these baby Mexicans nuts in a vice you can't shut them up!
    Hilarious!

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  40. A snitch nigga thats that shit i dont like.

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  41. Bb should right the history about the BLO so the people can know how much influence and power they had in the mex government and all the plazas they controlled and how Arturo financed chapos first escape that's just a little about the BLO!

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    1. He did not finance chapo escape chapo brother el pollo did and damaso did along with mz.beltranes were the Guzman's busboys back then don't believe the hype lame

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    2. Yup a lot of these guys just don't understand how powerful the BL once were.....

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    3. BS, the Atracomulcas just gave the biggest narcos atole con el dedo y rata pa' que es horquen solos, the pendejos mexican narcos wasted no time, the rest is history...

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  42. BLO made alliances just like El Niño de oro hermano de amado it was just good for business chapo started all the wars messed it up for a lot of people in mex and the u.s it's bad for business.....

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    1. Afo started the war with Sinaloa by killing el rayo. Also cdg and gulfo never got along. so you must be talking about juarez

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  43. The thing was mochomo was loved by every one when chapo started the war for t.j BLO didn't want no part of it just bad for business and already wer doing there own thing sinaloa was ran by el mochomo and had lots of people and cells under his order!!!

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    1. Chapo started the war? AFO started it when they killed el rayo. get it straight. Mocho was chapo security they worked for him until they bit the hand that fed them

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    2. The arellanuses just wanted it all, "because el padrino, su tio said so" and because the greedy Atracomulcas headed by jorge and carlos hank rohn were told by their daddy carlos, "andele mijos" ahi 'ta el bisnezz...when his texas banks investments got outed...

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    3. Mochomo was running Sinaloa under CHAPOs orders. Get it straight

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  44. the blo SNITCHING on mochomo. His own crew, were you fools that say blo don't snitch lmfao

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    1. The BL don't snitch....their employees do

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  45. Out of all these comments i wonder who and which comment is truthful everyone has theories but i know one of these comments or theories is truth

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  46. Chapo was not paying plaza!!!!

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    1. Don't have to when you have tunnels.No lookouts,customs to pay.

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    2. He don't need to pay plaza!!!!

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  47. pinched pedasos de mierda ratas

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