Tuesday, January 27, 2015

The chicago Twins who betrayed Chapo sentenced to 14 years

Republished by Lucio from The Chicago Tribune written by Jason Meisner

Lucio's note:

Minutes ago, the Flores twins were sentenced to 14 years each

Security at sentencing in the federal courtroom in Chicago was tight,  extra security checks outside courtroom doors and a bomb-sniffing dog sweeping for explosives. For their security, neither of the twins' attorneys was named in court.

Stated Judge Castillo when handing down the sentence;

"Even though I am not going to sentence you to life, you are leaving here with a life sentence.  Each time you start your car (when they are released), you are going to be wondering, is it going to start, or will it explode." 
 
Prosecutors had requested a sentence of 10 years.  Noting, because of the twins' cooperation they were able to issue  indictments of Guzman and more than 50 others. (3 new names were added today)

Castillo said the twins were the most significant traffickers ever in his court. Adding he had never seen drug traffickers at the height of their power and wealth, come forward to offer to assist the government and provide information, as the Flores brothers had.

And that day of freedom is much sooner than people think. 14 years, with 6 years served, and 2 years factored in for "good behavior, 54 days each year is the max allowed, these deductions mean the brothers could be released in 6 years. In the first video, the federal prosecutor talks about the case and sentencing, including the cooperation by the brothers, and the wiretapping of their conversations with Chapo.   


Today was the first public appearance of the brothers in 6 years.The American born twins appeared very uneasy walking to the podium to speak.

"I'm ashamed. I'm embarrassed. I'm regretful," Margarito said. “I’ve put my family in harm’s way, and I will never forgive myself, there is no excuse."

Pedro seemed on the verge of breaking down as he said, "I wanted to thank the United States (and federal agents) ... for allowing the opportunity not to spend my life in prison.”[Lucio]

Tribune article:
For a couple of drug dealers from Chicago's West Side, twin brothers Pedro and Margarito Flores had hit the big time by November 2008, negotiating a heroin deal over the phone in Mexico with none other than Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, the notorious Sinaloa cartel boss who at the time was the most wanted man in the world.

Pedro did the talking, convincing Guzman to drop the price on a freshly delivered shipment of heroin and also arranging a new deal that would bring about 40 kilograms a month of the cartel's narcotics into the Chicago area, court records show. Half an hour later, Flores' cellphone rang again. El Chapo handed his phone to an underling who gave instructions on how and where to make the $1 million cash payment.

What Guzman couldn't have fathomed was that U.S. federal agents were listening in on the calls that night. The heroin had been picked up in Chicago by an undercover officer posing as a courier. The Flores brothers had flipped.
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Six years after they became arguably the most important informants in the U.S. government's decades long war on drugs, Pedro and Margarito Flores will make their first court appearance Tuesday for their sentencing at the federal courthouse in Chicago amid heightened security.

Prosecutors plan to ask U.S. District Chief Judge Ruben Castillo for as little as 10 years behind bars for the twins, who pleaded guilty to drug conspiracy in 2012 and have been in the witness protection program. It's an extraordinary break from what almost certainly would have been a life sentence given the staggering amount of drugs and money the Flores brothers helped smuggle — at least 71 tons of cocaine and heroin and nearly $2 billion in cash, according to one government estimate.

Prosecutors said in court papers the light sentence was earned because of the danger the twins put themselves in through undercover work that eventually led to indictments against Guzman, his top Sinaloa cartel leaders, and dozens of other drug wholesalers and middlemen from Chicago to Mexico.

Born and raised in Chicago's Little Village neighborhood, the 34-year-old twins have been held in secret locations for more than six years. Their immediate family members were given new identities and set up with $300,000 to pay for living expenses for the foreseeable future. Even when they are released from custody, the brothers' lives will never be the same, prosecutors said.

"As two of the most well-known cooperating witnesses in the country, the Flores brothers (and their families) will live the rest of their lives in danger of being killed in retribution," prosecutors wrote. "The barbarism of the cartels is legend, with a special place reserved for those who cooperate."
The concerns over possible attempts at retribution extend to the brothers' Chicago attorney, whose identity has been kept secret for safety reasons in an extraordinary step. It's unclear whether the attorney will even be in court Tuesday for the sentencing. Extra metal detectors and bomb-sniffing dogs are expected to add another layer of security at the Dirksen U.S. Courthouse.

The Flores brothers' cooperation has already had real repercussions. Shortly after word got out that the brothers were in DEA custody, their father, Margarito Flores Sr., returned to Mexico against his sons' wishes and despite stern warnings from their government handlers, according to prosecutors.

Within days, the father was kidnapped and presumed to be murdered, the filing said. A note found at the scene of the kidnapping said his sons were next.

Some of the brothers' double-dealing was the stuff of movies. The Flores brothers met with cartel leaders in mountaintop compounds, captured conversations with Guzman's lieutenants with a voice recorder hidden in a coat pocket and even helped prosecutors by cutting deals with a rival faction of the cartel that would have meant certain death if discovered by either side, court records show.

"It was incredibly daring," said Joseph Lopez, a Chicago attorney who has represented many cartel clients. "These guys were allegedly able to get Chapo on tape talking about heroin. He trusted them that much."

The Flores brothers' sentencing marks the end of one of the more remarkable stories of Chicago's cut-throat drug underworld, where in a few short years the twins rose through the ranks of the Latin Kings street gang to eventually run a drug distribution ring that shipped thousands of pounds of narcotics to wholesale customers in New York, Washington, Cincinnati and other cities.

By the time they flipped in 2008 and agreed to dismantle their operation, the twins had reached "the highest echelons of the cartel world," prosecutors said.

They built their mini-empire using a system of couriers and henchmen whom they trusted to drive loads in vehicles outfitted with secret compartments and hydraulic trap doors, court records show. The drugs were often picked up in broad daylight, in supermarket parking lots and outside of South Loop dollar stores, and kept in innocuous-looking stash houses from Chicago to Aurora. Through it all, the Floreses kept a low profile. Their associates mostly had clean records, and they were not known for the rampant violence that many associate with street-level dealing.

Their main supplier was Guzman, whose vast operations included a fleet of 747 jets that had all the seats removed, the brothers said in sworn statements to a federal grand jury.

According to their statements, Guzman would load the planes with clothes and other goods and fly bogus "humanitarian" missions to South America. On the return trip to Mexico City, the brothers said, the planes would be packed with as much as 12,000 kilograms — about 14 tons — of cocaine that was unloaded and driven out of the airport with the help of corrupt officials.

The brothers said Guzman's various lieutenants helped the cartel coordinate shipments of cocaine from Colombia to Mexico using submarines, speedboats and amphibious vessels to avoid law enforcement at sea.

In 2007, the brothers agreed to invest $600,000 with Alfredo Vasquez-Hernandez, Guzman's boyhood friend, to open a furniture exporting company that would act as a front to ship cocaine by rail, with loads hidden behind false walls in the boxcars, according to the statements. Vasquez-Hernandez, a trusted lieutenant of El Chapo and one of the main contacts between the cartel and the Flores twins, pleaded guilty to drug conspiracy and was sentenced in November to 22 years in prison.

Their testimony led to sweeping indictments in 2009 against 54 defendants, including Guzman, who remained a fugitive until his sensational arrest in Mexico last February. It's unclear whether he'll ever be extradited to face charges in the U.S., where he is also under indictment in New York and Texas.

The Floreses' cooperation also led to the flipping of another key witness, Sinaloa underboss Vincente Zambada-Niebla, who in 2013 secretly pleaded guilty to acting as the key coordinator of a billion-dollar cocaine and heroin operation on behalf of a faction of the cartel run by his father, Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada. Zambada-Niebla is awaiting sentencing.

At the same time they were cooperating against the cartel, the Flores twins also assisted in the dismantling of their organization in 2009, creating a highly unusual situation where the bosses were cooperating against underlings. The arrests occurred after the Floreses were flown back to the U.S. by the Drug Enforcement Administration and instructed to set up a series of phony transactions to catch the couriers in the act.

"They set up their own customers," Lopez said.

As those cases moved forward, many defense attorneys questioned why the government allowed the twins to continue to import massive amounts of narcotics into the U.S. while their cooperation was ongoing.

At least one shipment — a 276-kilogram load of cocaine that was part of a deal with Vasquez-Hernandez — made it to Chicago and was distributed on the streets without the knowledge of federal investigators. The brothers later told prosecutors they needed the proceeds from the sale to avoid falling behind on payments to the cartel, which would have made their continued cooperation impossible, court records show.

There were also questions of whether the feds were willing to look the other way on alleged violence committed by the Flores brothers, including two killings.

One involved the cartel-related slaying of Guadalupe Ledesma in Mexico. A cooperating witness had told investigators the Flores brothers were "directly responsible" for the killing, prosecutors said. That information was never verified, however, and several others were eventually convicted of murder in Mexico without implicating the brothers.

Meanwhile, there were accusations that the Flores twins were still accumulating wealth while they were cooperating. In court papers, prosecutors acknowledged that some of their flamboyant purchases were "wholly inappropriate" for informants living in protective custody, including a Bentley that was given to Pedro Flores' wife as a gift. There were rumors the brothers had buried millions of dollars in drug proceeds in backyards in Chicago and other locations.

In all, the government seized more than $4 million in drug proceeds from the Flores twins, and prosecutors wrote in a court filing that after an exhaustive investigation they do "not believe that the Flores brothers are hiding assets."


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156 comments:

  1. Hollywood make a movie out these twins, you have Zak n Cody available to play the roles. This would be awesome for Hollywood. You have Barbie movie then after that Flores movie 2 Hollywood smashes guaranteed!

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    1. What a wonderful idea!

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  2. They got off light, but will have to live watching over their back for the rest of their life.

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    1. Thats not bad, you have never heard of any witness protection person get killed (example: Boxer Enriquez, Sammy Bull Gravano), the ones that have gotten killed is because they left program n look at Gravano he got himself in a drug ring n got popped again, hopefully the twins dont relapse like that.

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    2. Ha Ha, That’s a funny cartoon. Pedro is still doing the talking but Margarito is looking suspiciously at Chapo. Maybe the reason El Midget trusted them was because they are midgets too… (5’4”)

      Two Things for Certain:
      1. The US will be monitoring the brothers for the rest of their lives for any unusual spending and will confiscate under the “Kingpin Act.”

      2. The brothers have placed “all” family members in danger (from immediate to distant relatives too).

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    3. They must have gotten a staggering amount of information from these twins to get so many indictments. They even gave the wife a Bentley (which I have never heard of)!! Cash maybe, but a Bentley?...

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    4. You need to read the article again...it never stated they(feds) gave the wife a Bently

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    5. The information they obtained from the twins most likely helped to also indict the San Diego drug traffickers from BB’s article dated December 16th titled: “Sinaloa Cartel: 14 federal indictments unsealed in San Diego reveal 60 suspects”

      This definitely goes a long way to show that U.S. Federal Agencies are not as corrupted like Mexico’s. Good job US Federal Agencies!

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    6. CORRECTION:
      January 16th titled: “Sinaloa Cartel: 14 federal indictments unsealed in San Diego reveal 60 suspects”

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  3. What an incredible story. The story of these twins has lived on for a long time.

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  4. Of light Jajaa, oye ye, Flores twins remember this one line, la mafia nunca olvida.

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    1. La Mafia forgot about Boxer Enriquez Henry Hill Sammy Gravano (ATF Agent Donnie Brasco) etc... different Mafias but yeah they forget , The Twins will be fine in Iowa somewhere enjoy there new life.

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    2. "iowa"
      No body needs to know where they are PeNdEjO!

      12:55 A ti las otras mafias te andan buscando tambien,,, los rusos,,, los japoneses,,, los italianos,,, , , , Ajajajajajajaj

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    3. 6:23 idiota i just used iowa as a example pendejo, te digo gente ignorante but its ok, the pinche vato es un sabelo todo.

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  5. Am against rats but u know wat they played the game right back at the players that one day sooner or later the tacuaches wer not going to have use for them and wat they did just beat them to the punch not only that pay back for wat they did to ther father it is wat it is!!!!!

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    1. In other words you like rats!! The father only got killed after they found out they flipped and were rats and got all there family out of mexico.

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    2. Thats the fathers fault for being hard headed, they told n warned him, he would still be alive n enjoying those $300,000 fat onez if he would of listened.

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    3. These guys are scumbags... They didn't just snitch on CDS. They also snitched on their own customers. These customers did nothing but help these snitches make millions of dollars and CDS treated these guys pretty damn good before they found out they flipped...

      You say these guys played the game right.. I bet their father, when he was being tortured, didn't feel the same way...

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    4. They did what they had to do period. they had already killed the tacuachon, those 2 were going to be next pendejos! once you become a threat to a cartel. You are done!

      All are rats! you think they get in the drug traficking because they are saints? they are only after the money, power! nothing else!!

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    5. And the drugs too.

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  6. Wait, above it says they ran 2 billion in cash but the feds are saying they are not hiding money and only seized about 4 million in cash? Hahahahhahhaha LMFAO! These fuckers for sure stashed cash away, but yeah there lives are gonna suck all fkn paranoid always watchibg behind their backs.

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    1. But when they get out they gonna go dig up all the millions and live happy!

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    2. That was n is the smart way to go they played the game right, all they did was look out for there future, they might even give some to the Agents that protect them to have a good time.

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  7. Chapo the biggest snitch of them all sooo....umm yea...

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    1. Hahaha I know. Bunch of hypocritics really

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    2. N who did he snitch on?? U ppl say that but who did he truly snitch on? Alot of them give info to the government about rivals and even ppl in their organization that they want to get rid of. Its either that or kill em. But killing them can create problems like revenge n stuff compared to being given up to the police cuz then it just looks like u were arrested

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    3. He snitched on alfredo beltran bud

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    4. Telling the government about your rivals is snitching man

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    5. 4:40
      Dude get off his dick he snitched bottom line
      They all snitch een the shit hits the fan
      If i can give any credit to any of these gangsters are the ones who have balls and shoot it out with the soldados.think about it do u think scarface movie would be a great movie if he would of let hisself be captured by rivals or dea. NOT

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    6. 4:36 everyone in legal or illegal businesses have snitched on their competition. That's how financial empires have always worked.

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    7. Chapo never snitched watch la Barbie interview

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    8. In this game it's a dog eat dog world

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  8. they r walking dead

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  9. fleet of 747's to import drugs!! wow

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  10. These guys are gonna end up dead...

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    1. I bet that they aint :) ????? I bet that you will never hear from them again!? Unless they make the mistake in dropping Program or get busted in another drug bust ala Sammy Gravano. Any bets???

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    2. That's right we will NEVER hear from them again, that's because they'll be dead

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  11. Probably not, unless they start traveling after they are done with their ssentences. I have never heard of someone in witness protection getting killed

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    1. Then again you've never heard of other ppl manage to help bring down the biggest drug cartel in the world. These guys have a red dot with a trigger happy nut on the other side of the gun.

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    2. There are plenty of powerful and violent crime families that this happens to. It will not surprise me when nothing happens. This will drift away . Nobody killed sammy gravano after he stitched on john gotti

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    3. cartels will probably put up huge bounties on these guys

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    4. Sammy the bull gravano

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    5. Sammy Garvano brought down Gambino Family n God Father John Gotti Boxer Enriquez brought down Mexican Mafia Henry Hill brought down Luccesse Family theyJoe Massino brought down Bonanno Family...n all were forgotten. Hahaha so twins will be fine.

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    6. At 419. I know you are right. It happens time and time again. The twins are not dumb, they will have guns and expect people to come after them. I know this will drift away. The same people that think they will get killed are the same ones that thought chapo would never go to jail because he "is" mexico lol

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    7. Bóxer never brought down M...he is just a snitch now with no self respect..smh..believe me the M is alive and better than ever ..so missed with that b.s

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    8. 5:24, none of the guys i mentioned brought there crime families down all they did was snitch, the crime families are still around, the twins n the other cats just snitched to get a lighter sentence or protection program, none of there mafia families will care for them in the long run, n yes NO SELF RESPECT, but they all can enjoy a Hamburger special n eat out n NOT be locked up eating mystery food n staring at concrete walls

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    9. Stuped comment of course you are never going to heard about somebody under witness protection get killed do you why?? Because the news are never going to say that they just tell you their new name but never that they were on witness protection.

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    10. enjoy an in out burger will somebody is looking to take you and your family out.....really???? they knew what they got in to from the get go, now they just acting like a bunch of pussys that will sell their mother for a bite of a hamburger....am not defending anyone they all the same is just that snitches are the WORST type of scum there is...

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    11. The Bonanno Crime Family had more rat's then the sewers of N.Y.C

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  12. Yeah those twins might die in jail o outside

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    1. People like them are not mixed with general population

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  13. Not even the American mob got to the witnesses wat makes u think they can u know wat the raped the government by stashing some bread and raped the tacuaches shitt live it up fuck it!!!

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  14. Wats everyone bitchin about el nino, chapo, they all snitches u serious! !!!

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  15. More power to guys!!!!

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  16. I Wonder If THEY Got Time served they bin in for 6 years if so they will b out in 8 years but I really don't know how that works just wondering.

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  17. They will be out in 6 yrs.

    I just added information about the hearing today.

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  18. Damn.. I wonder what kind of punshiment these guys would get if they got in hands of the CDS... They would probably torture them for months

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  19. That image of el mayo looking like a tacuachon is outdated, he changed his appearance a long time ago

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  20. just send them back to Mx

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  21. Taco Guzman got a taste of his own medicine; the twins will be isolated form general population. In six years it will be old news. If they were wise, the twins stashed a lot of their earnings so when they are released, they are well off & leave Illinois-East Coast. somewhere

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  22. Boys did well! 14 years - no doubt they've got straw owners of real estate and straw account holders in Panama, Switzerland, Uraguay, and who knows where else. They will be well compensated for those 14 years - if they really got time and aren't going to disappear in witness protection. Unfortuntely crime pays very well when you have high quality information to trade with the US justice dept.

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    1. And they might get 10yrs which is a breeze after the 1st 4yrs, they did excellent!!!

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    2. "Boys did well! 14 years"
      Fuckin idiots on here,whoop de doo for the Flores

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    3. It says maybe 10yrs idiot

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  23. These guys got caught in the middle when Arturo split CDS and formed BLO .They were traffiking for both sides .They were scared of Arturo and wanted out so they started snitching on CDS

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    1. Yeah alot of people dont know or dont want to know but they snitched because sooner or later beltran or chapo sides where going to find out and kill them. They only talk about money they made with chapos drugs what about beltranes?

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  24. I love how those idiots in the DEA and ATF love to pat each other on the back when all these people and all the dope money they got don't mean shit. Those punks out of Chicago have already been replaced and all those under Chapo have also been replaced, so what those worthless assholes for the government have done is worth as much as used toilet paper. Hope they get recognized

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    1. Its more about punishing those for the crime and avoiding taxes. Dea knows it wont stop

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    2. The government is not dumb. You know they taxed the twins for millions! !

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    3. Hahaha.... we got a couple of haters, hating on the twins because they gave the CDS a taste of their own venom. keep hating bitches ! lol

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    4. Keep hating?? This guy needs a life he gets to exicited like if he is the prosecutor what a sad life uou must have!

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    5. They haven't got a clue man.Don't bother

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    6. We all know these people on here would never say this shit away from their computer..

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  25. They learned to snitch from the best their papi chapo

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    1. you got a point there . to snitch is pretty mild compared to murder , A murderer will snitch sooner than a lesser criminal . Fact

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  26. ... Their New Theme Song Is... "No Where To Baby, No Where To Hide"...

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  27. They don't have back up to get there money back. Somebody else is gonna be really rich

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  28. They already killed their father, unlike the Italian mob and the colombian cartels the mexicans are everywhere, after prison, might I suggest the Middle East? Jaja good luck boys

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    1. There is places where they aren't even known. Besides those SOBs don't have the same power in all the places, in mx and in some parts of Latin America they rule because of the corruption of the mediocres selling their soul for a couple of pesos, THEY ONLY RULE WHERE IDIOTS EXIST.
      ..Lets see them rule in Europe... or the USA... places like that where the REAL LAWS know how it must be done. Hah!!

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    2. You realize thst they are in the usa and in Europe too right? They dont need to rule it is a small world and somewhere somebody knows somebody that knows somebody and boom your dead!

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  29. These brothers are truly chapitos

    they are only 5'4

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  30. Will Mayo be murdered because Vicente turned gvt informant!
    or will Vicente have to watch his back forever!

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    1. Mayo won't be murdered, that info came out a long time ago and nothing happened him. Plus he's still the boss of his faction so no one could turn on him if they didn't like what his son did. I doubt he liked it either but we may never know if he's out to get his son.

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  31. Even if these guys hid money around Chicago, they will never be able to go get it. Nor can they contact old associates to help. That money will be there until someone else finds it and think they hit the lottery. These 2 will never be able to travel to any of their distribution hubs like New York. They will be living a life like an Amish. Access to nothing. How exciting. You now have the Latin kings, Sinaloa and lord knows who else waiting for that release date. They will get protective custody in prison. If word of harm heading their way while in, they will be moved. They most likely will be put in an undisclosed prison location with different names.

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  32. what's the big deal about them being rats really ? how about the cartel gangs the kill kids kill women destroy families extort money from families barely have enough to eat and more bad things that we don't know and u guys are all bitter because they rat on people like that

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    1. @ 5:58…I whole heartedly agree. Many of the people who castigate snitchers have their priorities all wrong.

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    2. 5:58 & 7:34
      Those are morons that think they got it all 'figured out'. They talk trash and i bet if they were in the twins shoes they would do the same thing in a sec.

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    3. lmoa u r right everybody is brave with a smart phone on there hands that act all tuff commenting how they wouldnt rat yeah right everybody would rat to save there butt and there families I now I would

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  33. They will do it again

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  34. Fuck snitches!!!if you once agree to never say shit be a motha fucking man and keep your word they had to be from Latin Kingsk

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    1. @ 7:25 Keeping your word applies to upstanding and honest people, not to one who participate in criminal activities. The old Shakespeare line “There is no honor among thieves” applies in this situation.

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    2. hahaha No one here remember Sammy the Bull? They are all rats and will all die a rats death going for the cheese. Sammy was Gotti's executioner who was a mass serial killer. He turned protected witness got a slap on the wrist for 19 murders he admitted to. There were dozens of others but he only admitted to 19. He a in witness protection and turned back to a life of crime with his whole family. He did nothing legit on the streets under protection, he started his own personal crime family. Once a POS always a POS. These 2 and their families over the course of time will be eliminated. These cartel scums always hold out for paybacks. Be it today or tomorrow the Flores' are doomed

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    3. Amen,I 2nd that comment.

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    4. "Keeping your word applies to upstanding and honest people, not to one who participate in criminal activities"

      Where the fuck do you people come form?Are you really this sheltered?

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    5. 7:47 haha
      I come from a place that knows the difference between right and wrong; can express myself without resorting to thug language and definitely know how to use the word “form” [sic] properly in a sentence.

      There really is no honor among thieves and there shouldn’t be…so snitchers keep snitching!

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    6. Whether you like it or not there is honour among thieves. If you look at the golden triangle people think some of the kingpins are good people. In Italy the same and also many other places.

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    7. 2:29
      Honorable until some of them are caught by the law, and then they start singing like three canaries for reduced sentences.

      Now what people “think” or how they feel about their criminals is a completely different topic…

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  35. Damn. I guess theres people a lot smarter than guzman, for example them twins just 14 years and they will be out to retire in some beachfront home somewhere in this cruel world while guzman is doing life eating prison steak!!

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    1. Exactly what I was thinking.

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  36. they were going to get killed anyway if they didn't turn

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  37. Does this mean the US can declare victory in the "war on drugs"

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    1. Victory? what Victory? there is no victory YET.
      That is only the beginning of "an End".
      Even if that drug cartel gets diminished, there are others who are going to try to replace them.

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    2. "Does this mean the US can declare victory in the "war on drugs""

      Yes.They slangin coke all over the world,they supplied Bin Laden and IS and help finance terror.They had contacts in Russia and Asia.These guys were huge and moving tons and tons and burying millions in back yards.Theres a treasure hunt right now in Chicago for all the buried millions in cash.
      The US has dealt a mortal blow to the war on drugs with their downfall(most here will believe that0

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    3. Lmao,nearly dude.

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    4. "Lmao,nearly dude"

      Be cool man

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    5. They are not close. The 'war on drugs' is meant to stop the massive supply of drugs. Not just stopping the people that do the supplying because there is always more of them.

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    6. The only way the war on drugs is going to be won is if ever drug user stops using.

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  38. I'm just here so I don't get fined!!!

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  39. The problem is that they give capos easy sentences because they turn other capos in. But then they're free again, and I believe they have a high chance of getting back into the drug trade. So this 'lenient sentence' strategy does not really prevent capos from being on the streets.

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  40. ... They Will Make Headlines Again, Then Their Will Be A Movie About Their Stupidity And Posted On YouTube Or LiveLeak.com... I Like What The Judge Said, "Even though I am not going to sentence you to life, you are leaving here with a life sentence. Each time you start your car, you are going to be wondering, is it going to start, or will it explode." KARMA .................

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    1. For what?? for helping bring down killers, corruptors, destroyers of families? KARMA is not doing anything against them, for helping clean the trash

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  41. I hope them and they family get killed by the cartel. Rats

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    1. What are yoy talking about dumbass...chapo is the biggest snitch of them all...how do you think he got to the top???

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    2. Because Miguel Felix said so. That's how.

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  42. America fuck yeah!!!

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    1. "America fuck yeah!!!"

      The naivety is staggering,it really is..
      Fuckin Topper Harley here

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      Go get em Duke

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    3. Nice piece of work America! Catch as many of these scums as possible for however long as possible....

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    4. 12:57 PM
      "Nice piece of work America!"
      Pop those pythons baby.

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  43. snitches end up in ditches

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    1. Snitches get Stitches

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    2. "snitches end up in ditches" "Snitches get Stitches"

      Inches get bitches,,errr

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  44. I grew up on 26 street in the little village neighborhood with these two guys I knew them well they always had big money big cars and the whole thing once they were Robbed by some unknowns who tied up their mom and sister and took 70k and some kilos from them but to them it was crumbs , thers two were dealers that was it we gangbanged the block these two never got involved in the violent things I doubt they killed anyone in Mexico they could move weight but never had the stomach for killing they put many king brothers away and now turned out to be rats I'm glad I was already away in jail when these two decided to turn or I would have been in one of those indictments it's crazy to see what they once were and now what they are . An old school Latin king from 27th N homan same block these two rats would hide in they are a shame to the hood

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    1. What kind of cars where they into? There is not much info about their purchases

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    2. What's a shame are lowlifes like you and the rest of these wanna be mobsters Terrorizing yall's community and selling this poison to young kids.

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    3. What's even more of a shame is some coward on social media attempting to want be high and mighty sit back punk if you knew my streets you'd know why the game is the way it is I don't have to explain myself to a nobody

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  45. If Chapo's sicarios dnt get em!.. EL Mayo gone get em!.. Either way dey gone meet the same fate as their father!..

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    1. The father it's not death
      You should to his home town jalpa Zacatecas

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    2. As long as they don't go to Mexico they'll be fine.US wont put up with that shit as assassins cant operate in US with impunity.

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    3. @ 5:48 what the fuck are trying to say? you make no sense.

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  46. And yaw notice the U.S. gave the twins a gravy deal!.. Cuz the whole time the D.E.A. & C.I.A. been sellin dope 2 the American citizens wit the Bosses a long ass time!.. The D.E.A. & C.I.A. backstab em when dey dnt need em no mo!.. Do yaw research!.. Thts my only advice!.. The U.S. federal agencies crooked thn a bitch!.. Fact

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  47. Rudy Giuliani as a prosecutor brought sammy the bull gravano to cooperate with the government to bring down the teflon don, because:
    John Gotti got to the top assassinating his godfather, a no-no, he needed a blessing and to be ok'd by the commission before he carried out the hit on Paul Castellano.
    Which makes Rudi Giulianni, an eyeetalian-american instrument of revenge, he's blessed to paul castellano's goombas, real men of honor who want no carpetbagger by their side...
    I'm sure john gotti had time to reconsider his dirty deeds, for the rest of his life...
    Arrivederci goombas...

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  48. These guys are now on Antrax Talibanes Gente Nueva hit list

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  49. By the way 2 all the mfs who keep sayin Chapo snitched or is a snitch!.. I ain't seen proof of Chapo snitchin yet!.. Court papers, mfs testimony, or nuthin!.. B.L.O. just assumed Chapo snitched on Alfredo!.. No proof frm the feds or nobody else!.. Mfs commentin & dnt knw shit!.. When fact is its hella paperwork of mfs snitchin on EL Chapo!.. Yet mfs continue 2 say or comment Chapo's a snitch!.. He got wht he deserve!.. Where's the paperwork of who & where Chapo snitched on?!. Like the released paperwork frm the feds of the Twins & countless othas snitchin on EL Chapo, EL Mayo,& the rest of C.D.S.!.. Mfs steady yappin!.. EL Chapo in a Mexican prison right now not cooperatin & fightin extradiction!.. Fact

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    1. Watch the Univision documentary on el chapo...you'll get all your answers there fucking nut hugger...

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    2. Why do you have to sound so dumb? I do agree there isn't really much evidence, just great timing. He might have snitched but why do you have to talk like a douche? Nobody will actually listen.

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  50. So finally, we are well assured that Chapo didn't snitch on this one.

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  51. Great read, thanks for the info.
    Who knows might be the next Martin Scorsese "mafia" movie in the making.
    Definitely has enough "Hollywood" worthy information.

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  52. Fuck margarito flores fuckin rata

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  53. @1:07 Heyyy 27 y homan Latin King, did the 2/6 really take la 26 from youses?
    And all k-town, so many chapulines all over the place, just doing business while stabbing each other in the back...

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    1. As much as I hate to admit it it's true the conejos got plugged with an upper zeta that was family to one of the two six leaders around the same time these two rats snitches and flipped , before the kings were the most feared on 26 street but after the Flores took the rest of the gang down the bunnies had all the weight and power they were stong for a while now I've heard things have balanced back out because the two six took a big loss with recent arrests by the feds it's all power play man who ever had the drugs at the time controls the hood . ol school LK H-27 lion tribe

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  54. aca en chicago la coca sige llegando from lil village to elgin . es basura ya no hay nada bueno y si hay bueno esta cara. mejor fumen mota cabrones lol.

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  55. Are these the infamous Twins de Culiacan??

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    1. No,los twins de cln son unos productores y dueños de su propia disquera que puso de moda la musica de corridos alterados y otras mamadas

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    2. No seas mamon wey

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  56. 11:55 i hope someday names will be posted, the whole story, i am not a member, but i have seen many famous implacable kings getting REAL COZY with some lowly 2/6 nickel and dimers, cd juarez contractors that come to the chicagoland to 'work', and even nice-nice lovey-dovey friendships with gangsters, vice lords and outlaws...
    El batuquiadero is incredible, but chicago got depopulated because of drugs gangs and ho's, there is only nice people in expensive apartments, in reposession and bankruptcy court, nice to see LKH-27 don't trust your shade if it is behind you.

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    1. Very true man in my years on the block I learned one thing a Latin kings worst enemy is another Latin king

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      Gentrification is a bitch,,,for real

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    3. U need to stay off the drogas,no se te entiende nada.

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  57. No honor among thieves huh? How would you even know? Are you in a cartel? In a street gang? Are you a drug dealer?

    Yeah I didn't think so.. You read newspaper reports of snitches and think every gangster snitches... Truth is every gangster doesn't snitch,,,

    Not every criminal is the same... Drugs are a huge business. If you think every drug dealer is a beheading, kill innocent, snitch on their friends gangster you are an idiot...

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  58. wow are u mad bro? i read the comments and nobody says every gangster all snitching

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  59. All I know is the US Government is in the same way as corrupted as Mexico, you see we elect these idiots in office and our tax dollars goes to pay their desks and computers and the drug profits from both big pharma and illegal pays for their Armani wear, these 2 snitches will get theirs you never bite the hand that feeds you, pinche mocosos. As For Zambada I bet his own father has a hit on him, I know I would son or even mother, one does not snitch.

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      Wrong, criminals snitch all the time to save their asses from serving extended sentences.

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