Friday, January 8, 2016

Backstory of El Cholo Ivan

Lucio R. Borderland Beat


Here is the backstory El Cholo Ivan, Chapo’s lieutenant, apprehended today with El Chapo. He is considered as being one of El Chapo’s right hand men.

Chapo was captured in a motel he was staying at, and depicted in the photo above.

Gastélum was arrested last March in Guamuchil, Sinaloa, only to be out on the streets once again, without any explanation as to what followed enabling his release or if he escaped.

He was wanted at the time of the March arrest, as he was on the lam having escaped from a Culiacan prison in 2008.

In late 2012 Gastélum was in an intense clash with the Mexican army that spanned over three villages and ended in the military shooting and killing  his girlfriend, 2012 Miss Sinaloa, Susana María Flores Gámez.

She was abandoned to her fate by Gastélum.  Before leaving her he instructed Flores Gámez to tell the authorities she was kidnapped, "Say you were kidnapped ... they're not going to do anything, they'll let you go." With that said, he safely fled.

A year after the death of the beauty queen, several banners were left in the municipalities of Culiacan, Salvador Alvarado and Mocorito in Sinaloa, blaming a Mexican General of her death.


The banners read: "General Gurrola, you frightened and murdered Maria Susana Flores and keep killing innocent people, Mr. Defense Secretary, let this general be investigated because he has only trampled the human rights, killed, tortured innocent people, just like you killed Maria Susana Flores, and many more. Mr. President, with all due respect, open an investigation on this General who should not be on the Army, but on jail. Yours truly, Cholo Ivan". 

Chapo being taken from motel below:



Doux motel 

73 comments:

  1. Cholo Ivan is shown in video being put in the helicopter, he's the one with no shirt on.

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  2. There are pictures of him hand cuffed next to chapo.how does somebody handcuffed get away?also when chapo was arrested he had back bruises ,the dude that got on airplane that was supposed to be chapo had no back bruises and looked fatter.what is really going on with the Mexican government.?

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    1. http://www.univision.com/noticias/narcotrafico/recapturan-en-mexico-a-el-chapo-guzman

      Here is the link of el cholo being captured so if he escaped he rolled on chapo

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  3. Could Gastélum alias “El Cholo Ivan's escape be his reward for snitching on El Chapo's where abouts? I wonder.

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  4. Her is the thing. Proceso said the secretary confirmed the story. However we can all see a person who looks like him next to chapo. that is why I am ambivalent with the proceso story. but has cholo ivan being detained confirmed??

    if so please send me links, I only have another 15 min and have to leave.

    the reason I decided to post the story is that even if proceso story is not factual, I have included some history of the man.

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  5. Cholo fue de la gente que lo ayudo a escapar no creo q fue el . Los marinelas no sabian q at estaba el senor PURO CHAPITO!!! El cholo was set free so he and Ivan scan coordinate watch as blood will be shed!!!! ATT CARTEL DE SINALOA

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    1. dumass mistake again.January 8, 2016 at 9:39 PM

      But why didn't they use the RPG's to missile there way out? I don't understand. They even had another extra reload plus grenade launchers. If chapo saw that there was a marina team attempting to capture him, why didn't he order his men to use the RPG'S instead of the ar15's a la mencho style? Again, this capture sounds real fishy, and why would special forces be used to respond to reports of armed men? Probably got heat by being with cholo ivan..

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    2. No info on the five guys that died ? Cholos people?

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    3. 10:39pm rediculus speculation, Chapo giving out tactical orders. Geez, go read a book or something.

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    4. 10:39 El chapo could not communicate with his boys, to strategerize, le mataron al corneta...
      --on the positive side, there is an opening for you there.

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  6. How can I post a pic of cholo captured I found?

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  7. Is cholo ivan and cholo vago the same person???

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    1. No cholo vago has tattoos

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    2. They are 2 different guys.

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    3. They r the same person

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    4. Orso Ivan Gastelum Cruz es el Cholo Ivan/Vago. Lo confunden con El Cholo 50, Leonel Salazar De Watts, Ca., hermano Del Italiano. No se confundan plebada
      -El FM

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    5. Stop spreading false info. Ivan and vago are the same person.

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    6. 7.16 and 10.28 listen to them they are right same person

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  8. Ok. I jave edited the story, and thank you to the reader who sent in the link to the top photo

    I guess Proceso is as bad as people say. Thanks for your patience and help. Hopefully other reporters can keep you updated as I am boarding a plane. I will check back as soon as possible

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    1. Buen Viaje, Lucio :-) Thank you for your good work.

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    2. You're doing a great job Lucio, keep it going

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    3. Hahaha
      Something funny about that and how El Mayo was interviewed by them.

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    4. 9:57 PM, you're so right, I forget all about that famosa interview. This stuff just gets crazier by the minute! Stay tuned:-)

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  9. Cholo Ivan tiene cara de diablo sucio, like a creepy pervert.

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    1. More like uneducated slob

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    2. he gets mad fine women though

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    3. 3:16 Irrelevant.

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  10. I thought el cholo was tatted up or was that el 50?

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    1. None of them have tattoos lmao

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    2. @6:16 Cholo Vago does have tattoos. Cholo 50 does not.

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    3. At 5:58 please dont tell me that you are saying that cholo vago has tattoos because of the video you saw with gerardo ortiz..lol

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  11. Not sure if previous comment went to spam????

    But, I said that maybe it is one of Gastelum's brothers (most of them went to jail before):

    Saul Gastelum Cruz
    http://www.lacronica.com/EdicionImpresa/ejemplaresanteriores/BusquedaEjemplares.asp?numnota=535290&fecha=21/10/2007

    Jesus Reyes Gastelum Cruz
    http://www.uniradioinforma.com/noticias/policiaca/87448/detienen-a-sujeto-que-robo-vehiculo.html

    Eleuterio Gastelum Cruz
    http://www.oem.com.mx/elsoldeparral/notas/n2976744.htm

    Rodrigo Gastelum Cruz
    http://www.lojudicial.com.mx/directory2/RODRIGO_GASTELUM_CRUZ.html#homePage

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  12. They probably meant to get cholo but got lucky since chapo was with him

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    1. That makes sense, too. Wrong place at the wrong time, shiet happens, la de da, Chapo was caught by mistake! Ya gotta luv it.

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    2. You're exactly right. That's why they said that cholo Ivan had escaped. That was their target but when they got arrested down the road, chapo was with him then both got arrested.but, not exactly just luck, the Marines were already on chapo scent.

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  13. What i told you?

    Chapo Guzman escape #3 coming.

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    1. Ain't going to happen.

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    2. Here's the thing, Chapo's as rich, today, as he was last week. He won't get exported stateside, he "disappear" after the Mexican states local elections are over.

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  14. Damn that cholo's girlfriend looked pretty good but I believe mayo canvass snitched on chapo. I give them by the end of 2016 they will get mayo.

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    1. Mayyo hasn't been caught because he's kept to himself. He stays out of trouble and hides only in the Sierra, he's smart, he doesn't fight wars, like El Azul, and that works for him.

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    2. Mayo is way smarter than this morons.he ain't never been arrested.

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  15. Proceso Sucks big time, they have political agenda before anything else, never, ever trust Proceso as a source. BB rules.

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  16. Two birds in the same shot, lets call it a day.

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  17. They are whining about that dumb bitch being killed. She had it coming! You associate with narcos - you die with them.

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    1. Your contempt for women wins, your comment is extremely offensive, 6:54. Here's a quote for you that I am particularly fond of, from el señor de los cielos, Amado Carrillo, "Nothing in life is impenetrable. Ask your mother."

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  18. Totally agree 6:40 :-)

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  19. Chapo isdro had his girl killed ?

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    1. They say he killed his dad. That why cholo hates chapito isidro.

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  20. That Cholo Ivan is a fat slob. How in the hell is he going to protect Chapo when he can't protect himself from the Twinkies. If he was chief of my security team I would deserve to get caught also.

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    1. Bro if only you've seen what he has done to the marina in several gun fights

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    2. cds members get into gun fights? I thought that they snitched on who ever was in there way

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  21. The marina were after cholo ivan and found chapo there

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  22. This all a plot exchange you dollars ASAP you will make a 40% return. Just so no one catches that the peso is at 18 peso to a dollar and the whole country is watching the news. While the rich invest

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    1. I saw that about the peso,too. It says plenty about the play, the final scene to the Third Act is in Fiscal February,ending with Mexico getting its Mérida accord's allowance from the US. Last year's was $1.2 billion taxpayer dollars. Bet its more this time around since el Chapo is back in custody.

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    2. Please explain some more

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    3. Hi,12:23, it's 10:10. Give me about an hour to find you something concise and readable about it, which i'll then post here. :-)

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    4. Okay, "concise, readable," not gonna happen, sorry! Here's a quick overview on Merida, tho: June, 2008, US Senate appropriates Mérida Initiative assistance for training, equipment and intelligence security cooperation between the US, Mexico and Central America's countries in the fight against drug trafficking, transnational organised crime and money laundering.

      Some 100,000 people have died in Mexico's drug war-related violence since 2006.*

      Funding to the Initiative's assistance is pure keystroke economics--the money never leaves the US Federal Reserve--Elvis stays home. Merida assistance functions like vouchers for purchasing aircraft, surveillance software, various other goods and services on offer from U.S. private defense contractors. There are no cash transfers or monies directly given to Mexico's government or its private contractors through the Merida agreement.

      According to State Dept officials, 59% of the Merida assistance goes to civil agencies responsible for law enforcement; 41% to operational costs for the Mexican Army and the Navy.
      By November 2009, the U.S. would cover about $214 million of the pledged $1.6 billion for Mexico and Central America. While, the initial costs for equipment and hardware that the military required were high, future Merida budgets' focus increasingly would be on training and assistance to civil agencies. $2.3 billion has been appropriated to the Merida Initiative since Fiscal Year 2008.

      October, 2015, State Dept recommended Congress withhold 15 percent of the security funding to Merida Initiative in 2016 due to pressure from human rights groups amid criticisms of Mexican security forces' widespread use of torture, extra judicial killings and a legal system which doesn't punish human rights abusers.

      Two days before Chapo's recapture,EPN received Obama's assurances that the US will continue its assistance to the Merida Initiative.

      As far as the Mexican peso's performance goes, Tuesday's exchange rate is .56 to 1.00 USAD. Last October, the peso tanked. However, it's worth noting traditionally the Mexican peso is ongoing as one of the most active futures in currency markets with consideration to the country's petroleum industry.

      *19 Oct, World Post, The Huffington Post, National Reporter, Roque Planas.
      Other sources: Wikipedia; US State Department website.

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  23. im pretty sure she loves him because he has money

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    1. If, one of these guys takes an interest in a young lady, she doesn't have much choice. Either, go with it or suffer the consequences, which would probably be horrific.In many cases, they're more like hostages with Stockholm Syndrome than girlfriends.

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  24. Que viva el chapo hp'a!

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  25. Chapo and cholo both busted in motel.Miguel Osorio confirmed.

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  26. I got 25 cents he will escape lol

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    1. I call that .25 cents . Then if he gets to the mountain home in Colorado I be layin odds

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  27. First off Cholo's girl looked like a damn minor! Second I have a hard time believing anything that any government official from MX says...and shiiiiit the gringo government bajajajajajaa...jokes for days bitches!
    I hope all them escape again and again...crooked government narco fux!

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  28. She was murdered by burrola's forces, leaving a car, the males were just arrested, how can you get in a shoot out with the police or the army while escaping in a car full of people?

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  29. Chapito Isidro hosting party to celebrate this for sure Lol..

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    1. En una de esas se lo chingan al chapito isidro, para que no cante...

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  30. Chapo Guzman and Cholo Ivan were caught at the hotel having a gay love affair.

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  31. chapo looks fuller in the face now then we he did in feb 2014

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  32. Lacras, la mitad de culpa la tienen estas lacras el otro 50% los drogos en Estados Unidos. Es un cuento de nunca acabar lo unico rescatable es que esto deja una clara percepsion de que ninguno de ambos casos lleva a un ser humano a hacer mejor en la vida los chavos tienen que crecer ayudar a su familia y ayudar a su pais solo asi saldremos de este circulo vicioso.

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