Thursday, January 14, 2016

Chapo's: text messages to Kate, Penile implant, the circus continues

Lucio R for Borderland Beat

DD is working on the Milenio story of Chapo’s text messages to actress Kate Castillo.  For her part, she says most of what is reported is BS.  There are rumors she has given PROCESO an exclusive interview that will be published this Sunday. 

As for the Milenio story, it has been picked up by more news agencies  in the U.S. than in Mexico.  I conducted a quick perusal of respected main stream Mexican media outlets  and Mexican agency press releases. such as the PGR agency, and  I failed to find the story.  Perhaps later in the day, I am writing this early hours of the day.

The story says El Chapo agreed to Penn conducting the interview without knowing who he was, and  although Chapo had no clue who Penn is,  days later there was a  meeting.  


Why the leader of the Sinaloa cartel was so sloppy with his security, while being the most wanted man in Mexico is the guess of anyone.

After listening to to him in the 17 minute video, he comes across as not only uneducated, that we knew, but not the sharpest tool in the shed either. 

That came as a surprise to me, as I always harbored the impression that Chapo was this uneducated genius, who if legit could have been as powerful as Steve Jobs, speaking in a business sense.  

After viewing the video, for me, he cut a pathetic cartoonish figure, rather than the brilliance of perhaps the most successful drug trafficker of all time.

And later seeing the photos in the Doux Hotel, and his mugshots, Chapo looked differently than at any other time he was captured or mugged. At the hotel he looked, stunned and crushed, in the mug he looks infuriated and somewhat unhinged.


It makes one wonder, what role El Chapo truly had with the Sinaloa Cartel. Was it someone else who in reality is the premier leader, sitting at the top of the Sinaloa’s organizational chart? Someone smarter, perceptive, and inflexible? Or has he lost what he once had, somehow he seemed far more powerful as an enigma.  I saw a cartoon the other day with Kate Castillo looming large next to a tiny El Chapo as the Wizard of Oz which sums up what I am thinking.

El Chapo is being humiliated all over the place, in memes, the press, and Mexicans relentless at poking fun at the capo.  

Now Reforma is reporting that Chapo suffers from erectile dysfunction, and sometime in October, 2015,  Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman underwent surgery, in which doctors implanted a device to assure an erection.

According to the report, the surgery was done in a  Tijuana clinic, months, after "El Chapo" allegedly met actress Kate del Castillo and US actor Sean Penn. This contradicts the Milenio story of romantic texts from Chapo wanting to hook up with Castillo in September.

Scars of the procedure  were detected by forensic doctors at Federal Criminal prison Altiplano No. 1, when the drug trafficker was booked  on January 8, after being captured in the city of Los Mochis. 

"I saw the scars on the back, hips and reproductive system," the medical source said. And the implant was apparent in xrays taken.

When Chapo broke out of prison in July, the Mexican government was humiliated at best.  With all these personal stories being leaked against Chapo,  true or otherwise, it  is difficult not to think the government is settling accounts with Chapo,  by piloting a humiliation campaign against him in return.  Staring from the photos in the sex room at the DOUX, with El Cholo Ivan.  He was not a guest there, yet some publications still say that is where he waas captured.  It’s hard to know what is true.  

As for the Penn-Chapo-Castillo meeting,  Sinaloa’s Ríodoce news website said the meeting with  "El Chapo" with del Castillo and Penn was in a nature reserve at the Autonomous University of Sinaloa, in the tropical forest of the Municipality of Cosala.  The beautiful site has a hotel, cabins, pool and observatory.


And evidently, one  raucous, unyielding rooster.

111 comments:

  1. Not the brightest tool in the shed? The irony.

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    1. embarrassingly so
      signed, red-faced guy

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    2. El chapo was el chapo in the crotch. Live up to your name!

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    3. Don't worry lusio, a la mejor tortillera se le va un jitomate entero, so what...

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  2. I thought it was said he couldnt read or write?

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    1. you are correct, but as he did in prison he could utilize a "writer" for him.

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    2. It is said that Mr. Pancho Villa dropped out of school at the age of 6 or 7 roughly at the same age as El Chapo. However, Mr. Villa had the capacity and intelligence to run the country while Chapo only knew how to run a drug cartel. Unfortunately for Chapo he was forced to out smart modern day technology and that included staying off of telephones.

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    3. Didn't some stupid reporter in univision say he had a fifth grade education??

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    4. Or this is his double. Something doesn't smell right with this whole story. Remember the Mexican government is telling the story.

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    5. There is actually video of him signing his name in Cursive when he got caught last time! It's funny

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    6. yes many people who are illiterate can learn to sign their name. with chapo the travelling teacher that taught his family stopped going when he was 8

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  3. Como un pendejo, como el chapo puede ser jefe?? Yo creo que tan solo es como un escudo, el verdadero, jefe es el mayo....tal vez eran un equipo pero creo que al chapo lo dejaron solo...

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    1. No diga tonterías amigo, ya mero iban a andar pagando millonadas de dolares y arriesgado el pellejo de mucha gente nomas para sacar a un pelagatos de la carcel

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    2. Parece como ke nomas lo usaron, asiendolo ver como el mas malandron de todos ellos... Si alguien tuviera tanto poder komo dicen ke tiene, porke solo a el lo agarran? El chapo la cagó, isó millonario a tanto perro para nada, solo para terminar komo todos los demas, yo ke el me uviera largado a la verga de ese pais, y uviera kemado a todos los demas malnacidos.

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    3. Tampoko es ke el chapo sea un santo o un pelagatos, porke un santo o pelagatos no llegaría asta donde el llegó en ese tipo de desmadres...

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    4. Que va un pendejo no llega hasta esas alturas en un cartel como ese

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    5. Making money was el chapo's priority, not reading or rittin'.
      There may be some wisdom to Rick Santorum denouncing college graduates as "some snobs" like president Obama...
      --but if you go to school, there are less chances of getting persecuted or prosecuted, no matter what you do, the US presidents, businessmen, drug lords, money launderers, corrupt bankers, murdering genocidal generals and investor fraudsters rarely go to prison if ever, and mexican politicians who study abroad never get prosecuted either...
      Maybe el chapo should start studying again, at least pre-school, "el sindicato de maestros de mexico" gave a scholarship to fallen politician bertie boy moreira to study money laundering in spain, which obviously he failed, or maybe bertie boy is just getting "examined" by the Spanish Proctologystas for his "finals", heheheee...
      As always, el chapo can pay his way through pre-school, he doesn't need to steal from the mexican treasury...

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  4. i will bet his management of money is at best ok....meaning there are lots of rich under bosses who hide ,steal or just plain lie to the doofus.
    billions are somewhere

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  5. Maybe Kate dropped her calzones & the Capo of all Capos couldn't perform. Only Kate, El Chapo & God (& possibly the CIA) will ever know.

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    1. Could be the case. Maybe that is why Chapo hastily asked them to leave that morning. He was embarrassed, his filthy little pecker wasn't up to the task.

      She probably laughed in his face. No worries, I'm sure Sean Penn was all over that before and after the meeting with impotent Chapo.

      LOL!

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    2. 12.25 Kate no usa calzones, she does not need them, she is a movie star, and she is "hollywood" now

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    3. Hey el mosquero de la Kate scared away el chapo, too many miles on the muffler...
      --and remember he just had a baby with la diputada, and twins with la reina del carnaval...
      --maybe Sean and el cholo ivan's faces scared el chapo...

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  6. He's overrated and just being used by the government who really benefit from the drug business. Just like John Gotti said when they asked him why he left the drug game, he replied by saying " YOU CANT COMPeTE WITH THE GOVERNMENT " He's just a puppet but a lucky one if you ask me. He just got old and they need a new puppet. so, they locked him up with no chance of ever leaving the prison system...

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    1. you're overestimating the government, really...

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    2. 3:31 your going to tell me that the C.I.A and F.B.I are not involveved in a big way? your going to tell me a dumb guy like chapo has more power than the government? your silly...

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    3. 9:50 obviously chapo is an iletrated bastard, but if you thing a corrupt and incompetent government like the mexican can pull all the strings in this war, you're as dumb as chapo.

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  7. I never been to Mexico but I've always heard rumors that some guy named Mayo was really the boss in the cartel what chapo managed. The people who told me that were from Durango.

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  8. A least Chapo met actor Say-ahn Penn lol.

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    1. More like say-ahn PENE

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    2. Fack all thet shet, el 5 de Mayo is coming, again!!!
      Find your own beeech! Beeech!! El morroñis is taken...

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  9. "It makes one wonder, what role El Chapo truly had with the Sinaloa Cartel. Was it someone else who in reality is the premier leader, sitting at the top of the Sinaloa’s organizational chart? Someone smarter, perceptive, and inflexible? Or has he lost what he once had,"

    I think is both, he must had lost the first since the first time he got caught in Guatemala, and the other one nobody knows since when, all that heavy drug use and parties with hookers ain't free, joe crack.

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    1. Someone smarter wow, have you read their narco banners? You don't need to be super smart to be a cunning mother fucker.

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    2. Who knows i could be wrong, only they know what is realy going on, you can believe anything you want not my problem.

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    3. well,he did not look/sound smart or cunning

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    4. Well, MANLIO FABIO BELTRONES "LA FABIS" who used to be "la secretaria" and sit on the knees of chief boss of the DFS (created by the CIA) Francisco Gutierrez Barrios "el pollo" at 16 year old priista, when he was young, cute and real pretty, la fabis still is around, after being senator, governor, congressman, secretario of many things, casino owner, and public servant, all over mexico, he is now secretario general del pri, trying to make "HIS" PARTY LOOK PRETTY AGAIN for the next presidential coronation, while the US keeps his dirty track record "classified" for reasons of courtesy towards a mexican public servant, lest the mexicans get offended if the US catches one more gigantic mexican cucaracha that has served them well...
      --he also bent over for epn candidacy, no vaseline...

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  10. Has there ever been actually a drug lord that can be labeled as intellectually competent? they're all illiterated farmers and thugs. Who actually though Chapo was some kind of mastermind?

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    1. Not trying to look like a nuthugger but, Eduardo Arellano is a neurosurgeon, Enedina has a masters in Business management, Francisco Javier went to college, not sure what he studied there, the Arellano´s were FAR from illiterate farmers, but even them went down, and hard. To me Mayo has always been the real power behind Sinaloa, not Chapo.

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    2. CHAPO has and his people will always be the muscle of Sinaloa mayo is the king of the throne I think that's why they targeted all his sons since they know he is to politically tied to be caught

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    3. Clearly Chapo was too stupid to run an organization of that size. Chances are he was the dupe who enjoyed notoriety that the real power brokers used as a distraction. Chapo was probably never let in on the situation and really believed he was boss. LOL! What an idiot - now the meathead sits in prison while the actress is being passed around Hollywood and the real bosses of the Sinaloa Cartel are still raking in millions a week.

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    4. Chapo slipped and got himself captured. He was not stupid. All it takes is one fuck up and your done in this business. Chapo ran the Cartel. Mayo was second in command. Don't come out with stupid excuses for the cartel! I bet both of you CDS nuthuggers were chearing on Chapo since he last escaped and now you turn your back on him!

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    5. @9:42 El Azul is the real boss of the CDS

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  11. All of this shit, makes no fcking sense, is this for real or are they trying to play every one.

    How is some one that is on the fugitive list going to meet with some one unknown????

    Wonder if that kid looking chapo screwed the shit outta that kate del castillo hooker. Pinches putas. Lol

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  12. Sean Penn has this effect on people. You see how he just maneuvered his way to Sinaloa and basically took the Sinaloa Cartel away from El Chapo. He drugged El Chapo & made him conduct this stupid interview so that Penn could show why El Chapo wasn't fit to run the Sinaloa Federation.

    Penn then went & met with El Mayo and advised El Mayo that Penn will now be "the boss of the Sinaloa Cartel." El Mayo couldn't do anything because Penn's chief of security, Chuck Norris, was there. El Mayo knew all about Chuck Norris & how dangerous he is.

    Word on the streets is Penn met with Caro Quintero this week & told Caro to report directly to him or he would face extradition to the US for murdered Kiki. Sources say several "CIA looking gringos" were present that this meeting.

    Sean Penn told Caro that he is going after El Mencho and then he will proceed with taking over Reynosa & Matamoros before he heads west to destroy the Juarez Cartel & "whoever gets in my way in Tijuana."

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    1. Great summary what's the movie called?

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    2. Awesome theory. Seems legit...

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    3. see it kills me because Borderland beat posted all these stupid comments from people and everytime i write something good and all about the article at hand they never ever post it..but if some goofy kid post something like this^ they post it LOL...its a joke

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    4. 12.55 ...and what more that cheap ass grifa made you dream???

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  13. I knew a young doper from sinaloa who said the real power was el mayo...he helped him out with the 2001 escape too remove pressure from him..an have chapo draw all the heat...

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    1. I think you're right. Doubtful Chapo could run a successful ice cream stand.

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  14. the myth of the powerful, enigmatic, and larger than life el chapo have fallen like a house of cards. What a clown

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  15. at this point i question everything?
    I don't care if i'm labeled as "conspiracy theorist" but I don't believe for a sencond that this is El Chapo.. The man arrested and the man in the interview are not the same guy.. forget about the mustache the cheekbones, the eyes and facial structure are not the same... It looks like they took someone of the same height and age as el chapo and made him look as much as el chapo through cosmetic surgery and passed him off as the culprit... this is all a novela.. the media and the mexican government wants everyone focused on the whole Sean Pen and Kate Del Castillo interview bullshit to keep the public from questioning the identity of this man that practically runs Mexico as he pleases... Mark my words when i say that Mexico will find a reason not to extradite this midget... and the reason is that this guy IS NOT EL CHAPO!!! Anyone who thinks different is just a sad and naive little being.

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    1. That's where the scars in the hip come into play lol all this is a joke so many story's you don't know what to BELIVE anymore people tell the truth even if it's a lie

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    2. I think this is real this time he is fucked no way out it was just an old man once again in love like a teenager he knew this was risky he knew if he touched a phone he would be done i think CHAPO was trying to retire with a beautiful actress by his side I wonder what made him go into los mochis I recall when I was out in la Sierra filming seeing a really almost military strong presences just that the trucks gave them up that it was military we where told by locals it was "el convoy deal senor"

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    3. I agree. That man is not Guzman. I know people who have met him in person and they just smile when I ask them if it's really el chapo which was caught. Someone else told me the guy who is shown as chapo is just a guy who looks like him and it's all a theater to take the heat off the really chapo.

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    4. ok mr. smarty pants, if this is not chapo then why would they care to extradite him to U.S.? you make no sense. nonsense!!

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    5. It is possible that it may be a double sinaloans tend to look alike sinaloans have a big ego and dont like to admit he got caught and are in denial

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    6. I'm sinaloan and I can tell you they caught him El Rapido has always been the face of the Pacific Cartel. The real head is one mentioned never put on blast, this is chess not checkers

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  16. Chapo shirts for sale

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  17. I too am very disappointed by the video. He just does not seem like a criminal mastermind. I find it hard to believe that this man is in charge of a multi billion dollar enterprise. I would believe he has the connections. But the brains of the operation? I don't think so.
    Minnesota

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    1. Henry Ford could barely read or write, but he was a gifted visionary... Once you've aquired that much money and reached that level of power you could pay people to think for you... did henry ford engineer all his vehicles. No. Did he design all them cars? No... he paid people and took credit for it.

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    2. To anyone thinking he is stupid you are wrong. He is a wiseguy that fell for a girl, that is all. People do crazy things for girls......

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    3. No one is saying he is stupid that I can see, what is said is he comes across less than intelligent, or brilliant.

      compare chapo to mayo (interviews)
      mayo has intelligence, common sense, and depth

      and chapo not. surprising

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    4. Henry Ford was a visionary and pragmatic but also said some very asinie things about certain subjects.

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  18. So who's to say that the "real chapo" hasn't been seen in a long time or could be dead, but to just keep the fear of "EL CHAPO" name flowing around in Mexico/US and to also keep the cartel strong...IMO

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  19. It was all an act. The whole interview was supposed to make el Chapo be seen as a simple minded person and not this criminal mastermind. He wants the people to think hes just like them and not some savage. Come on now. Common sense. The dude is a genious.

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  20. What does he have to be embarrassed about Lucio? If you were in his place as far as being hunted and everything you do, LITERALLY is being documented. How many of us would have some embarrassing shit to be scared of coming out for the world to criticize. Even if this is El Chapo which I don't know or care at this point, the man has lived a more interesting life than 99.999% of the population on earth

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    1. I think you are lost, I thought it was clear I am the embarrassed guy. I made a mistake that produced a marriage of two well known idoms. A reader was pointing out the irony.

      as for your comment, he put himself in "his place". I chose a different path and our beginnings were very much alike.

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    2. Your a moron, chapo and his broke pecker don't need another cheerleader like you. Quit making him your idol. Get a life loser and quit nuthugging!

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  21. This man runs a multi billion dollar business for many years .He maybe uneducated but he is no fool .
    Att 007 Antrax Special Forces

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    1. lol ok mr. special forces lol

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    2. It will take a miracle to resurrect Los Antrax from the land of the dead. I highly doubt you have the Christ like powers to do so my friend.

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  22. without commenting on Chapo's intelligence, i'll say this. i've seen people rise in organizations over tons of peopel who were smarter than them...it was smarts that determined their rise, but will power to do what the other wouldnt

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    1. Sometimes is just balls that get those gorilas in power, the difference between them and the others is, that they are willing to kill or die to get there, simple as that. Many, many times that is the case in places where the Law don't exist.

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  23. He may be uneducated, but an idiot he is not. He was just not good at what he did, he was exceptional. And I am not glorifying El Chapito in anyway. People have to call a spade a spade and a ACE and ACE. The man got sloppy, his ego got the best of him. But obviously, he has managed to stay around for 25+ years in a very cutthroat industry (literally). And while he seems like an (idiot) to most in the interview, I hear a Sierreno de la sierra de Sinaloa. If your familiar with people up North in Mexico. Humble, soft spoken and firm talkers, that is what you get from the older crowd. Why people expected, a flamboyant Tony Montana character is beyond me. That is what the younger crowd is about. Chapo was about expanding his business and couldn't just give up doing what he did, most traffickers and drug lords can't. It's all they know really know how to do, giving up what they know isn't really an optoin .

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    1. Agreed, he doesn't sound like an idiot in the interview, just a humble man. What makes him seem like an idiot is his arrest.

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    2. I think we expected more from him because we where bombarded. With false corridos about him making him seem larger than life but sinaloan corridos tend to be tha way

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    3. I have been around along time and my experience is that really dangerous people when interviewed always play dumb in front of the camera. I can't help but to think his "goofy" demeanor was all a ploy to gain sympathy from the viewers. We Americans are some what gullible when it comes to things outside of our comfort zone. White america would look at him and say "oh he doesn't look like a bad man. He looks harmless". In the US we are use to the fantasy of heinous criminals looking like huge monsters not a 5'3" paleta man. Americas worst nightmare is not a Mexican drug lord it is a 6' plus muscle bound black man selling crack cocaine out of a trap house. Chapo is far from that imposing figure America fears. I understand why El Chapo did the interview and it makes sense if he was trying to soften his image. Unfortunately for him it cost him his freedom a third time.

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    4. When a man puts his ass on the line for a woman that is not even all that, and then gets the worst part for it, he was just brave enough to gamble and lose, you may see el chapo crying in prison, send the video...

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  24. I think the meeting with Penn/Casillo and the actual sit-down interview happened days if not weeks apart; in 2 different locations; and I don't believe Penn was at the interview.

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  25. I agree, it wasn't the content of the interview, it was the presentation that made Chapo far less brilliant than I previously thought.

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  26. You should never judge a book by it's cover!
    Even if he wasn't the smartest guy in the room, he definitely had the money to surround him self with the brightest people that would help him build his Empire.

    Im not saying what he did was good but Mr.Guzman shouldn't receive all the heat. The consumers are as guilty as he is!

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    1. By its cover? are you speaking of the silk paisley shirt wearing, goofy looking capo? It isn't the cover talked about here, Put the pipe down bud, your comment is ridiculous, if that wasn't enough- you include your damn photo

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  27. El Mayo is the brains and leader of Sinaloa, he will never be captured.

    I recall him saying that the price he pays to elude capture is not leaving the sierras. He said it is a life always fearful and looking over the shoulder. what good is billions or millions when someone has to live like that?

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    1. Do you actually believe he is always in la sierra?dobyou actually belive that?i dont,in my opinion its just to make people believe that they are out there in la sierra and its not our next door neighbor..Where was the most wanted man in the world in his to captures?in the city like normal people..

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  28. absolutely it was el mayo, there is a good article just written about that, I will try and locate it and send in the link

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  29. I just saw the CNN reports on this, and they are having a jolly ol time with the penile implant story

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  30. after giving it a second look, the photo above on this article looks like he was being forced to do this interview/interrogation at gun point like all other narco interrogations. Secondly, He starts with out his ball cap and during the video its on his head.
    Something smells fishy and its not Kate del Castillo.

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    1. Good observation. My thinking was he was timid on camera. However, you may have hit on to something--interesting!

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    2. Some ppl aren't that good with cameras when they are under stressful situations. Lol

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    3. alot of this stuff just seems so off...the hatless chapo looks fit and trim. the chapo with the hat looks obese. all pics taken look fake af...the dead all look executed...the shootout video looks staged....the perp walk is ominous af...when he turns it looks like hes sending a message...btw a drawl in your speech pattern isnt an indication that your dumb. thats just how he talks. if your basing it on the answers he gave to those softball q's then obama and bush and trump and hillary are all imbeciles because ive yet to hear one coherent sentence from them in all my life so far.

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    4. No not at all per his voice. Was looking at physical appearance not speech. Mercy! Don't get me started on US political crazies/imbeciles. Cheers

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    5. Russian vids on you tube says its all fake.crisis actors.fake chapos OR chapo has always been an act

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  31. penn tells the story about the hat in the rolling stone articel

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  32. People please stop writing stupid comments, you don't need to be super smart to be a good criminal. You just need to be lucky enough to make a lot of money to be able to pay for protection to stay on top. All top criminals were able to stay on top thanks to corruption.

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  33. To all the criminology experts saying this is el Chapo and El Mayo did some master plan to take heat away from him, lol. Not so master plan since now all eyes are on Mayito himself... just saying...

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  34. Indeed--Chapo is a front man. Rural muscle for the real entrepreneurs.

    Someone knows who really makes things happen.

    Anyone?

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  35. Chapo appears to be the 'village idiot' falling for a woman who is laughing at him behind his back.

    This does not bode well for the imbecile's legacy. People world wide are laughing hysterically at the shear stupidity of Chapo. How could the old dolt have been so foolish to chase a younger woman way out of his league who is most likely already fornicating with Sean Penn.

    He was used by the actress so Sean Penn could get a little fame and face time on TV. And subsequently she will get some fame and perhaps a spot in a movie for servicing Sean Penn's "needs".

    Meanwhile the illiterate idiot, Chapo, sits in prison while his love interest is fornicating with Sean Penn in Sean's nice big mansion! LOL!

    Perfect ending for Chapo; may the mere mention of his name forever envoke endless howls of laughter! What a fool.

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    1. Seems to me like chapo is the one laughing ... You would be an imbecile to everything the media portrays.. It couldn't be anymore clearer that this whole charade is merely a smoke curtain to keep
      The public from questioning el chapo's identity... Being the most wanted man you don't simply expose yourself unless you know that you have full protection from the government.. If you look at the guy arrested and compare him to the guy in the interview you can tell they are not the same guy.. But like most ppl YOU will believe what you see on tv and what your governing laws tell you.. yOu refuse to think outside of the box and you trust your beloved president to do what's right .. Seems to me like your the FOOL .. I don't care for the guy much but I wouldn't underestimate his moves one bit... He won't be extradited .. You will see mexico will find a way to postpone turning him over to the US and one day they will announce that he died from a heart attack in prison and that his family rapidly cremated the body much like el azul.. And that'll be that, the public will buy it and so will YOU and the rest of the morons that believe this soap opera simply because they hate EL CHAPO

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    2. 7:36 You sir are correct. Cheers I'm glad there's people with common sense still.

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    3. We shall see 7:36 when the mighty Chapo is extradited to the good ol' USA. When that happens you and the rest have to accept the cold hard reality of Chapo's incarceration.

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  36. Mayo is the brains and true leader of the cartel. Chapo just a pawn.

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  37. Does any one else see el senor de los cielos happening here??? Lmao

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    1. What you mean zorra de chihuahua??? Ya deja mamarla tanto.

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  39. Una pregunta para la gente de Sinaloa apoco en Sinaloa cada rato se matan por las viejas?

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  40. "As for the Penn-Chapo-Castillo meeting, Sinaloa’s Ríodoce news website said the meeting with "El Chapo" with del Castillo and Penn was in a nature reserve at the Autonomous University of Sinaloa, in the tropical forest of the Municipality of Cosala. The beautiful site has a hotel, cabins, pool and observatory.


    And evidently, one raucous, unyielding rooster."

    I thought that the actual interview (with rooster in background) was done days if not weeks after the Penn-Chapo-Castillo meeting. And that Penn nor Castillo was even present for that? Penn submitted the questions; somebody else sat with Chapo (one of his lawyers perhaps) and conducted the interview; and the taped interview was sent to Penn through Castillo.

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  41. Chapo got played two of the dumbest people

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  42. Calling him dumb is just silly...do you have any idea how living as the worlds most wanted man is? I'm sure it's torture and unbelievably stressful.....most would be shaking and babbling to themselves....I'm no fan of Él chapo but if you think he's dumb you are completely naive..a dumb guy doesn't do what he did.

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