Tuesday, November 10, 2015

CJNG and Los Zetas clashing for Guanajuato:DEA

Translated by Otis B Fly-Wheel for Borderland Beat from a Milenio article and Google Maps

[ Subject Matter: Zetas, CJNG, Knights Templar, CDG
Recommendation: No prior subject matter knowledge required]

Only in Irapuato is there a presence of KT and in Salamanca the CDG, indicates the DEA

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Reporter: Sofia Negrete

The most recent report of the DEA establishes that Los Zetas and the CJNG have divided the State of Guanajuato. It also indicates that only in two municipalities there is the presence of other organized crime groups: in Irapuato they are the Knight Templar and in Salamanca the Cartel del Golfo.

The document elaborates on the strategic intelligence of the DEA and denominates Mexico: actualization of the evaluation of major drugs trafficking, areas of the organizations that dominate control, it also details how the cartels operate in national territory.



According to a map, of which Milenio had a copy, the presence of Los Zetas in Guanajuato has credence. Their domination extends to more than half of the municipalities that share borders with San Luis Potosi, like San Luis de la Paz, Victoria, Xichu, Atarjea, they almost control San Diego de la Union and have gained territory in Dolores Hidalgo.

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Also along the frontiers with Queretaro, the State of Mexico and part of Michoacán. There they are in the towns of Tierra Blanca, Santa Catarina, Doctor Mora, San Jose Iturbide, a large part of San Miguel de Allende, Comonfort, Apaseo El Grande, Apasea El Alto, Jerecuaro, Coroneo, Tarandacuao, Acambaro, Salvatierra and part of Santiago Maravatio.

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Los Zetas also have a presence in Salvatierra, Tarimoro, Cortazar, Jueventino Rosas, and Celaya. Also they have gained territory in Jaral del Progreso, Salamanca and Villagran.

This criminal group, according to the DEA, control percent by percent, the States of Coahuila, Nuevo Leon, Puebla, Tabasco, Campeche, a large part of Veracruz and more than half of San Luis Potosi, that they contest with the CJNG and the CDG.

In all, the CJNG extended their presence into the municipalities of the
State that have a border with Jalisco territory, like Leon, Ocampo, San Francisco de Rincon, Purisima, Ciudad Manuel Doblado, Silao, Romita and Cueramaro.

It has gained territory in San Diego de la Union, Dolores Hidalgo, Irapuato, Salamanca, Villagran, Jaral del Progreso, Santiago Maravatio, Salvatierra, Juevntino Rosas and San Miguel de Allende; also they dominate the towns of the border they have with Michoacán, like Penjamo, Huanimaro, Abasolo, Valle de Santiago, Yuiria, Moroleon and Uriangato.

Also they have control in Nayarit, Jalisco, Aguascalientes, a large part of Michoacán and the zone South of San Luis Potosi. They have also gained presence in Veracruz, Oaxaca and Chiapas.

The DEA report explains that leadership losses of the cartel La Familia Michoacana and the Knights Templar in the last year have been degraded significantly in their ability and operative capacity and cohesion in Mexico territory.

They are a case contrary to that of the CJNG who have achieved expansion. The document explains that this criminal group " utilizes their alliances and exploits the weaknesses of rival cartels to make new territories".

"This cartel finds itself in a privileged position to augment their drug trafficking operations, their wealth and influence in Mexico continues to grow".

Original article in Spanish at Milenio

109 comments:

  1. Will mencho and his tortuga ninjas beat the zetas and there foot clan for there plazas who will win ? Find out next time on dragon ball z

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    1. It appears Mencho is fighting CDS, Zetas and the Mexican government. Not a smart move in my book. It will start out like fun and games but CJNG will end up like La Familia....Badly beaten and Irrelevant.

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    2. 11:25 if your gonna say funny stuff like that, make your self a nick name.

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    3. @ 7:39 I dont wanna

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    4. Nickname?funny? Shit,primero que aprenda a escribir ingles EL PAISA.

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    5. Dam at least he put some humor on here and you guys have to come and be hella salty about it.

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    6. 3:18pm, Paisa aracachero no seas tan chinche. Nickname's spelling varies. The Brits and Americans will spell it as a single word; the Canadians can't make up their minds, spell it as either one word, or two; the Scots, the Irish and the Aussies will tell you to go fuck yourself.

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    7. @3:18 Why you mad bro?

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    8. 7:17 ain't nobody mad. U can go back to watching ur cartoons son

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    9. Learn how to write english? I don't see nothing misspelled. Guys let's not use the comments section for this type of non sense. It's giving a bad image to BB. Another site will look at these comments and laugh at us. At least there's some humor going on here lol..

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  2. Are these reports off these agencies based on any Mexican input or are they some guys sitting behind a desk? Do we really think Zetas are aggressively contesting anywhere right now?Anything is possible,but,some of these reports ?

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    1. The Z command are going back to their old ways of doing business in the shadows. Of course there are baby Z's doing stupid shit claiming Z but they are really just fuck boys. Don't be surprised if the next Reuters map shows Z terroritory increased its size from the last map.

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    2. Yea, gotta take this with a grain of salt, since it is DEA input. Still, the Z can't be underestimated, they're always up to no damn good, same with KT and CJNG. Strategically, tho, they all seem to be well placed, smack dab in the middle of all these terrible troubles all these HP are causing in Mexico.

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    3. Just more and more excuses to BRING IN THE COPS...
      TUPAC IS COMING! CALL THE COPS...
      --Milenio is a tool of the peñabots, there is not enough money in the vicious mexican drug addicts' pockets to make it worth fighting over as a "cartel", there may be a little gramero market for the car washing tamaleros ...but there is every excuse in the world to send the poolice, the marinas and soldiers to help the private paramilitary forces the mexican states governors are using to enhance their mighty powers that nurture their rapacity...expanding from the center, following the zeta pattern, all elite zetas de peña nieto...

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    4. Have to agree about Milenio, it's a dreadful publication. Editoral bias is one thing, every paper, magazine, etc has the right to one. But! The Milenio spin is really low rent bs. FOX LITE in Spanish. Note: By no means am I criticising BB contributors most excellent translations.
      Peace out...

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    5. BB is biased too, Chivis mistreating blackeyed "blackeyes" blackjack, the willitos, josie lopez, and other paci fans and throwing them to the wolves for some tablazos en las nalgas POR PUTOS is cruel, but oooh sooo funny...

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    6. Chivis doesn't mistreat anybody. For all her patience with We The BB Readers, she should be UN Secretary General. Peace.

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  3. ' clashing ' They make it sound like some huge organized battle instead of what it really is, a dirty sneaky kidnap and run.And then bodies left with mantas.

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  4. CJNG are strong compare to the zetas who rigth know are super weak but this just shows that CJGN are even mor weaker cause they cant even take the zetas terrytory lol if it was the other way around zetas would have eaten cjng alive , michocanos i jaliscos con tamaulipas topan

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    1. The los zetas are just taking it easy, the Elite Zetas accomplished their goals, taking back the presidency, killing and murdering half of mexico and turning the country into a national "narco-fosa" while stealing treasury and political positions for 12 years of NARCO-PANOCHISMO worked, we back to:
      NARCO-PRIISMO/PANISTA/PERREDISTA/ECOLOGISTA with the ELITE ZETAS as gobernadores, generales, jefes de polesia, diputados, senadores y "jefes de la delegacion" en el DF como RICKY MONRIAL, aka "14 TONS"...and undercover state fraudster BERTIE BOY MOREIRA stirring up loans for the state of morelos...
      --Peña's Elite Zetas rule!!!

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    2. .... Turning the country into a narco tunnel...

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  5. Who knows i just came back from queretaro sierra gorda la higuera from a mountain bike race and all was peacfull..... Never saw a clash or heard of one... I saw the beautiful,sierra and road a 50 k race that took my girlfrien and i 12 hours to finish..... Then drove down to leon for some fine shopping of leather goods and all was at peace... Drove through san luis potosi ma pops birth place and still everything peacfull.... around midnight i found myself driving through, by tula and stopes at a subway and everything was peacfull.... Hamuave and peacfull,.. Ciudad victoria and peacfull,... Finaly matamoros and at my destination arounf three in the morning and everything was PEACEFULL .....slept and then drove to Gods Country Texas and finaly at home and you know Peacefull..... I just felt like crying for Mexico and our Texas are beautifull,... Returned back to matamoros to check up on my cousin and girlfriend as we are still recovering from the 50 k mountain bike race and everything remains at peace...... Please keep it that way for the goodness of all..... And to all veterans have a wonderfull day thanks for serving our nation..... God bless you All.....

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    1. @3:30 pura pinche propaganda encebollada con bullsheet, but good for you, I hope they pay you well, if a one gram state like morelos spends 200 000 000.00 pesos in propaganda for Cuernavacas; javier duarte de ochoa spends 200 000 000.00 millones dollars in propaganda for his state, I hope you got some of that money yourself...and the Soriana/MONEX card is not expired, or spent, or fake or NSF...with the help of la virgencita de guadalupe...AAAY güey! Como somos pendejos...

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    2. I have to drive to Guanajuato from Chihuahua City. I am a little nervous. I have not had an problems personally in recent years other than being pulled over and robbed for mordida of the authorities. I have seen bad things happen to others. I have had many members in my family and frineds and acquaintances like you that never had a problem and then one day lighting strikes. Carjackings on the highway, robberies and a few deaths.

      One friend was on her way to Hidalgo to buy clothes for her store here in El Centro Chihuahua. The whole bus was stopped and everyone robbed. Cars and buses are being stopped and robbed all the time hear Zacatecas. You do not hear or read it in the papers because it is happening too often now and they do not to scare tourists. You have to know people in those areas to get these reports which I do. I hope like you that I have a safe trip. But like I say I hope that Lightning does not strike me. It appears tranquil here in Chihuahua. I know people in Cipol and other police entities through family associations. I get the information first hand and normally things that are not allowed to be reported in the papers. They give family members reports before traveling when asked. I am glad you are safe and had a great time.

      I love the Mexican people and beautiful Mexico. But there is obviously people that are suffering and not as fortunate as you are I. People do not always open up to people, with information to strangers while traveling, nor is it wise to ask at times. That alone can get you killed. Remember you are only in one of those places you went for a very short time. The race was monitored I am sure. Read about other people that have ridden mountain bikes and their experiences that were not as fortunate, and ran into problems.

      If I had a family member that wanted to make the trip and drive from the US I would not advise it.Flying is much safer. Especially with US license plates. If you can afford it you fly to your destination.

      My neighbors sister and her husband came across the border at Santa Teresa a month or so ago. They were within eyesight of the border crossing when they were pulled over and robbed by men in camouflage and sporting automatic weapons. They have crossed and came back many times before, just like I have without problems until then. People here are getting their bonuses this weak in Mexico. Everyone knows that carjackings and robberies will escalate so they are more careful. But many will get struck by lightning. Many women here will not carry purses into El Centro. Just like the bear that gets his salmon out of the many that pass, many here will meet the bear.

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    3. @ 9:26 Same reason/s people no longer travel to cd Juarez from El Paso TX as much anymore. Although cd Juarez is alot calmer nowadays just the fact that you still worry about the corrupt police pulling over vehicles just to "inspect" them at random as well as the transit police accusing you of breaking stupid traffic laws when the whole city is very badly marked gives headaches for most people to go there and have fun! Add to this the long crossing times that U.S. Customs forces upon everyone returning back to El Paso and their is very little incentive to travel to cd Juarez from El Paso except for a limited few who have relatives that live in Juarez or for work as in other cases! I really do wish people in Mexico with power would read comments like this so that perhaps they would take real steps to clean the corruption in the entire country so that it could be safe to travel by vehicle there once again.

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    4. @ 3:30 a.m. You took the free highway thru Tula and Cuidad Victoria? Driving at night? Wow! I go up to S.E. Texas from central Mexico every six months. I prefer the free route, but because of all the violence there, I've been paying for the toll roads around Saltillo and Monterrey. It's good to hear you still go the free route and everything went O.K. I think I'm gonna try it next trip. Anyone else with recent experience going the Tula route?

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    5. @926 you are right, is like the zebras running in a pack , and eventually the lion catches the tourist one or the local one that are not careful.....the guy that was on the mountain bike trip, he just happened to get lucky that is all....because some one with a bike rack and american plates are an invitation to get victimized....personally I would fly to mex and just lay low and visit in public places..

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    6. Cuando te toca te toca. - El Soldado Perdido

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    7. ^^^All the above, abovensen, toda su pinchi propaganda narcoturistica apesta a chayote pagado por el pinchi priismo narco-turistico, loyal believers are supposed to just up and lap it up like some futbol con cervezas y la virgensita...FTS...

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    8. In mexico, they accuse you of running the stop light even if it was green or if there was NO LIGHT at all or stop sign, sheyet, they want kickback for jaywalking in your own house!!!
      --Michael Corleone would get fined for getting shot at in his own house! If he were in me-xi-co...

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    9. Everything it's kinda really pee full in that zone like gto qeretaro Puebla hidalgo campeche rumor says that real military background Z are from those states and that's why it's relatively peace full don't get me wrong there's dead body's but it's body's who have baners claiming they are Z killing calienta plazas remember LAZCANO was or is from hidalgo Dezena Z1 was from puebla mamita from campeche and there's another COMANDANTE FROM GUANAJUATO WHOS LOCK UP THAT WAS VERY CLOSE TO LAZCA YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THERE'S ALOT OF MILITARY CARTELES AROUND THOSE STATES WORD OUTHERE IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF EX SOLDIERS COMING OUT FROM THat REGION working as Z the old fashion ways what is odd to me is that all the kidnappings don't realy ocur in those states it's usually in northern mexico and it's done bye just fucking regular criminals who have no idea what it is to traffic drugs in that area that am talking including MICHOACAN GERRERO theres all the drugs you have MJ HEROINE CRYSTAL COKE CAINE SHIPMENTS COMINGS ON BOOTS TO THE COST OF MEXICO THOSE PPL ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS CONTROL THE PRODUCTION AND THE RETRIVINGS OF COKE CAIN AND SELL IT TO BUYERS AT NORTHERN STATES AND MAKE LOTS OF MONEY SEEMS TO ME PPL IN THE NORTHERN PART RELY ON EXTORTION RACKETEERING KIDNAPPINGS AND YES DRUG TRAFIKING BUT THEY AIN'T PRODUCING DRUGS I TELL YOU THAT THE BORDER TOWNS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CONTROL BY PEOPLE OF LA SIERRA

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    10. This week on Monday 3 American citizens laredo tx residents crossed into laredo MX NOT TO BE HEARD OF TILL THIS DAY COUPLE OF BODY WERE HANG ON NEW YEARS EVE AND THE DAY BEFORE THAT 2 desmemberd body's were left at UAT THEY SAY THAT IF IT THE NEWS COMES OUT IN THE LOCAL NEWS PAPER THE Z DID IT IF NOT OUTSIDERS DID IT TAKE PRECAUTIONS WHEN VISITING MX PLAY IT NICE AND SMOOTH AND SAFE ALWAYS TRUST CAN GET YOU KILLED IF LUCK IS NOT ON YOUR SIDE

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  6. Cts are still in guanajuato but now cjng dominates most of the state.

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    1. If CT is in GTO and if Z is in GTO why was there never reports of conflicts between them? Every sicario for himself ?

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  7. They must have presence in Nayarit but CDS would be dominant. They must have some sort of pact or uneasy truce with each other. Anybody know what Nacho Coronel's brother is doing now? He would be a key player in relations between both cartels.

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    1. Ines coronel, father of Emma suegro del chapo was arrested with 2 gramos of cocaine or sompim' a while ago? He must be still waiting for the charges to be deduced, unless he escaped with a tunnel under the table greased for the prosecution...

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  8. I have to say the DEA say some strange stuff. They frequently mention how Nogales Sonora is El Chapo's most used smuggling port but in their DEA map they say that BLO controls it. Even they don't know what's going on in the drug war.

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  9. I wouldn't belive anything that the DEA reports. There playing both sides profiting off the misery of millions of victims in this phoney drug war.

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    1. The DEA is 10 times more credible than any Mexican or Latin American Agency.

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    2. Nope. DEA has zero credibility. None. Latin American and Mexico's most corrupt officials may have no honor or shame, but they know it. DEA believes its own bs, nobody else buys it, though. DEA is a boil on humanity's arse.

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    3. Maybe just slightly, but ten times is a true exaggeration. Never believe any agency that has to do with any government, period....

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  10. How can the zeta's be running anything anymore with the surrender of that sick basterd Miguel Trevino and his fat ass brother I would have thought the sickness of what is Los Zeta's would disappear

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    1. They stole plenty of owners properties and equipment. They can function with out drugs for a little bit.

      The Texas border is huge and they get guns easily. Even with no drugs as long as they have guns they can take unarmed peoples property.
      They CDN won't even arm a comando any more for topones that's how bitch made they are now.

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  11. poor innocent people . stuck in this bs .

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  12. In my dad's home town In Nayarit,zetas run the plaza.

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    1. BELTRAN Leyva had Nayarit for a long time . they share it with Z.

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    2. Nope, Nayarit is Beltranes plaza but Zetas are there too as for reinforcements same as in Morelos and Sinaloa.

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  13. Mr guzman is letting the zetas and cjng kill each other. That way it will be easier for him to KEEP control of guanajuato. Guzman is very smart if you ask me.. atte el morroñis de la palma navolato, sinaloa ajuuaa.

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    1. No mr Guzman is wishing he never got in this business right now lol....sinaloa=putitos ajuuuaa

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    2. Pinche morronis ya me trais asta la chingada pinche avlador

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    3. Sinaloa rules chapo out y Tetaz bossess r locked up just a reminder

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    4. Dayum..Did he personally tell you that or is that your OPINION?

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    5. @8:35 It is a cheer of happiness, el Ingeniero Don El Chapo Juaquin Guzman Loera is free, free at last!!! He did not just see the promised land, he venividivici at his pleasure and lords over it like the great Estadista he is, and he did not go to harvard or yale UU's to learn to stick it to you with his "statesmanship"....

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  14. I've never encountered or witnessed first hand any shit going on in Mexico, it's bad in a lot of places but still, I'm more scared of cops and rich people.

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    1. Why was her comment removed? I dont recall her saying anything out of the ordinary.

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    2. she removed it, I don't even remember the comment

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    3. She commented "I thought they said CT was disbanded." No problem. Don't know why she took it down.

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    4. She said if ct were stiæl revelant

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    5. U can remove comments how u do that

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    6. through a google account. but if you want anything removed just send thru comments ATTN CHIVIS and say the name of post and time and date of comment and I will remove your comment

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  16. Gende pendeja que ni saben nada mijos mejor lean libros que lean estas mamadas. Pero si quieren saber les digo algo. CDS & CJNG are allied working together as of a couple months ago. Guanajuato is being taken over by CDN. El Sr. Licenciado con los Trevinos "Z" andan bien heavy. The Zetas ain't even close to being a weak cartel. Yes they had some set backs with 40 & 42 being capture. El 45 "Z leader" knows the business really well & he likes to operate in the shadows compare to 40 & 42. El Sr. Licenciado cartel "CDN leader" is a very smart guy. San Luis is all his territory. Z & CDN work together all the time.

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    1. Who is exactly is Z45 any way? I heard about him being the new leader of the Zetas but I've never heard of him before....

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    2. CDS and CJNG are not allies or enemies.

      Z and CDN are the same shit.

      Z ARE NOT WEAK they were smart and pacted with BLO and Juarez.

      CJNG and CDG are in GTO and SLP no area is controlled %100. There are Z in Sinaloa too.

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    3. It would not have anything to do with el bronco rodriguez being a closet zeta, enrique francisco galindo ceballos "el nuevo 'general durazo' porro universitario, fired from el ISSSTE POR RATERO and zeta for life, jefe de la narcopolesia nazional gendarmierdista, genghis chong and all the peñabots lambeculos...all of them work for the same people, the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia...

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    4. El Z45 es nephew de 40 & 42. El 45 was a crazy satanic guy now that he is the Leader he calm down but he still crazy like his uncles. CDN was Zetas even tho they still work together like if they were Zetas. CDN is run by Z3 family & Zetas are run by los Trevinos family. They work together as one all the time but yes they are two separate cartels now. The manda in Zacatecas was a lie made by F1 people "CDG". Back to CDS & CJNG do have a truce going on at this moment this is why there is no blood running threw the streets. CDS has there own internal struggles Damaso & Chapos crews vs Mayos Crew & yes Zetas are in Zinaloa thanks to them partners Los Beltranes. El Nuevo Cartel De Juarez & La Ninea work together with Los Zetas, CDN, & BeltraneZ. Chapos cheerleader dont speak if you just get info from Corridos & ain't been there to know.

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    5. Z40 and z42 were never in public, had no address on the phone book, so they must have been on the shades, and they also stole the zeta money for their horses and ranch, not paying the people made them split, so if they owned it all, how are they going to be all that?
      --There may be new guys operating the zetas but I doubt that any of them want to answer to 40 or 42 as if they were some kind of authority...

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    6. What is CDN?

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    7. Cartel Del noroeste

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    8. Lazcano with the help of the Trevinos made the zetas a cartel that's why Nuevo Laredo is the strong hold of the zetas ... The trevinos have been at it for years way before they were invited to the cartel by osiel himself

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    9. Correct Los Trevinos family used to work for Sinaloa when Nuevo Laredo was control by CDS with los BeltraneZ.

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  17. ~@~ how will it now change that they are trying to legalize weed in Mexico I know cartels produce other drugs but do you guys think this will impact any cartel in specific ?

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    1. They will release all the perps... 😣

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  18. Los zebras are done with mencho can't afford a war against Sinaloa I think there is 2 key player between chapo en mencho that is keeping them from blasting each other and that is wo azul and nacho

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    1. Cjng needs cds and cds needs cjng. Nothing more, nothing less

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    2. Q: How many Zetas does it take to change a light bulb? A: Three. One to call Chapo and two to heat up the plaza...

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  19. well DEA knows, they know their suppliers ... Their only real competition is CIA. :P

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  20. If the dea says theirs three cartels presence why isn't the vilonce like michoacan or Guerrero

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    1. To steal the land and privatize the property, blame the poolitician vendepatrias, the landowners can always sell salted and roasted pumpkin seeds on the corners of some city or another, live on cardboard boxes or pallet made residences, they are ingenious and resourceful mexicans, and with the help of nuestra señora de guadalupe and holding hands with the power of the Internet and faith in YOUR government, what can go wrong? We'll be more powerful than the chinese, the Russians or the amerikkkans.

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  21. Excellent thoughtful comment 9:26, thank you
    Legalizing weed is simplistic, the criminals will always find more ways to make dinero

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/10/americas/freedom-project-mexico-trafficking-survivor/?iid=ob_lockedrail_topeditorial&iref=obinsite

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  22. Actually there is a crime wave of drug violence in San Miguel de Allende right now for the first time ever my brother tell me. There have been maybe fifteen people killed over the past few weeks. Probably more. Some girl got shot seven times in the face the other day in a ice cream shop right in middle of town. Two guys shot up in a car day before yesterday. There is a list going around on FB with fotos of people who are local dealers who are marked for death, she was on the list also. Local dealers were supposably with the CT but nobody really know whats going on. Before this all started some narcomantas were put up on bridges in town saying it was CT guardia guanajato coming to clean things up.

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    1. Tas pendejo aprende a escribir primero

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    2. Were with ct but switched sides betrayed them and went with cjng I'm about 90% sure or it could be another group useing the name.

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  23. Tengan cuidado por que posiblemente mañana haya bloqueos en diversas salidas y municipios de puebla, mataron a un traficante, líder del cartel nueva generacion mejor conocido como "EL GATO",

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  24. CJNG in La Paz and Los Cabos too

    http://www.bcsnoticias.mx/segun-la-dea-cartel-de-jalisco-nueva-generacion-opera-en-la-paz-y-los-cabos/

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  25. No se raje gunajuato

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  26. Off Topic, but imo this is a major contributing factor in all the horror shows staged in Guerrero and Guanajuata: CALGARY – TransCanada Corp. (TSX:TRP) has won a contract to build, own and operate a US$500-million natural gas pipeline for Mexico’s state-owned power company.
    Calgary-based TransCanada says the Tuxpan-Tula Pipeline will help meet Mexico’s increasing demand for natural gas as the country shifts to the cleaner-burning fuel.
    The company says the pipeline should be completed by late 2017 and it has a 25-year contract with the Comision Federal de Electricidad to operate the line.

    The 250-kilometre pipeline will run from the state of Veracruz to natural gas power plants in central and western Mexico..
    TransCanada already owns and operates the Tamazunchale and Guadalajara pipeline systems in Mexico and is working to complete the Topolobampo and Mazatlan pipelines.

    By 2018, the company says it will have invested about US$3 billion in the country and continues to look for more opportunities in Mexico." global.ca/news (p.s. John Baird, a foreign minister to former Prime Minister Harper, left office last spring to take an executive position with GOLD CORP, which opperates in Carrizalillo).

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    1. 7:22PM complete on topic.

      El presidents has sold Mexico's oil resources and water.

      I'm almost 100% sure he is contracting private military contracts for security and or as terrorist.

      I'm 100% he re sealed documents that were once unsealed that briefed the reader over government abuse against citizens in the 70S narco war.

      Publish my post and make a post about what's really going on. <3

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    2. All kinds of deals behind the attacks against the humblest of mexicans, the Canadians have been practicing for a long time, the royal mounted were nothing much more than pipe dreams smoking the Canadian indians too, and trying to stick it up the americans asses with their XXXL Sized pipelines for their dirty oil too...what about the shale gas deposits on texas and tamaulipas all ready for the fracking? There only needs to find is the depopulation programs, all the oils and gasses running to feed their chinese enterprises under CANADIAN NAMES, LOANED FOR A FEES, ALL THE RIGMAROLE FOR "OFFSHORED" OWNERSHIP, canada will happily take whatever table scraps the oily oil tycoons of con want to give them, no amerikkkan animals are hopped to be harmed if due process is followed...just fake it all the way to the end zone...
      --all the shareholders should be tar and feathered...

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    3. Good information. I am curious to know your main reason(s) for seeing a link to Mexico's "horror show".

      I suspect you may be alluding to governmental and business corruption , wherein certain elite "insiders" get "plums" of for putting the gas pipeline "deal" together and the Mexican Nation (common citizens) get leftovers like in Colonial times when Villa and Zapata rode.

      I am sincerely curious to know your thinking on this topic because I am also trying to make sense of the horrors in Mexico.

      Mexico Watcher

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    4. Mexico Watcher, well, like the saying goes, "If, you think you understand what's going on in Mexico, you're misinformed." The thing about the extraction industries is people whom live on the land get in the way of these corporate goons and eco criminals' profit margins. Africa, Colombia, Indonesia may not be neighbors, but each knows first hand that oil and minerals' extraction go hand in hand with genocide. Mexico is beginning to tell her own story of the mass murders of her people by government and industry to the world...Stay tuned... PEACE

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  27. Zetas run most of guanajuato , they rob , kill and kidnap people im from there but currently live in texas and about a month ago my brother got kidnapped and was about to get murdered. My brother in law says there is more groups there fightin including those mentioned above and chapitos.

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  28. Hey 1.21AM, I live in Guanajuato and no crime wave or people killing each other, all ok, my kids walk to school every day. I used to live in Houston and New Orleans (yes, we have dual citizeship), it scared the shits out of me. Last week I read in CNN about 33,000 people killed by gunviolence in the US every yeaar (add other methods, twice as much as in Mexico) (http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/02/us/oregon-shooting-terrorism-gun-violence/), believe me I FEEL SAFER IN GUANAJUATO THAN IN TEXAS

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    1. Yes its safer than Texas

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    2. There wasn't 33k killed in the US last year or the year before so I doubt there is 33k people killed by guns each year. I don't know where this number comes from but it's not accurate. I don't know where you lived in Houston or New Orleans but both of those cities have notoriously violent neighborhoods. If you know how to conduct yourself in those neighborhoods you won't have any issues. You my friend must of lived in the shithole part of town and I'm sure you seeing 6 feet plus 200 pound brothers everyday didn't help either. Texas is way safer than any state in Mexico. At least in Texas you can be armed to the hilt but in Mexico you can have .38 special. Wow, I feel safer already. You

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  29. Hey guys don't mislead yourself, zetas are controlling Guanajuato and distant corridors let's face it, cjng expired?.?

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  30. I heard the beltran leyva cartel are also in GTO. They control the Irapuato plaza.

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    1. --Héctor beltran leyva cogido en his turf,guanajuatos y queretaro, (home base)
      --El viceroy carrillo fuentes, cogido en durango, just in the south of 'chiuaua'
      --'nother carrillo juentes cogido en nayarit...
      --Presidente municipal de fresnillo zac, Benjamin Medrano self made millionaire working "fairs" in chiuaua and nayarit where is was the friend of the governors wife helping her steal from the treasury, of course...
      --vicente carrillo "Betty la fea" and vicente zambada niebla cogidos en el DF,
      --la barbie y el barbas cogidos en morelos...
      --Las zetas lazcano y Treviñas cogidos en monterrey/coahuila y tamaulipas y san luis potosi, cd juarez...
      --Osiel en tamaulipas...
      All of mexico split among the narcs by the pooliticians...and not for free...

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  31. Can we take it that by the Z getting up to their old tricks, this means they're basically armed muscle and murder for hire, who'll work for anybody, if the price is right?

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    1. Always. That is what they do and always have done since their inception. They were bodyguards first but Osiel knew they could be useful as assassins. The other stuff like drug trafficking, kidnapping and extortion they learned from the established cartels. Assassinations first over all other things.

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    2. Thanks for that, 7:46 pm.

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  32. Who runs colotlan jalisco and san miguel el alto??

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  33. Is there any violence in Jaral de progreso GTO? I went last year and it was very peaceful.

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