Thursday, July 16, 2015

Osario Chong refuses U.S. help in El Chapo's capture

Lucio R. for Borderland Beat republished from Los Angeles Times

Both nations were on board for joint cooperation...then Chong put the lid on any US assistance.

Federal law enforcement agencies are offering drone technology and U.S. agents to assist in the hunt for escaped drug cartel leader Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, but so far the Mexican government has rebuffed the offers and appears to be hoping it can capture the fugitive on its own, U.S. officials said Wednesday..

“Of course we’re helping. We do that every day in regard to our overall efforts,” said one American law enforcement official, speaking anonymously because of the ongoing investigation. “It would be hard for our guys to be working down there, doing what we normally do, collecting information and developing leads, and stuff that comes over wiretaps, and not be passing it along.”

But U.S. officials are perplexed and increasingly frustrated by what has happened in Mexico. On Saturday night, Guzman vanished down a tunnel through the shower floor in his prison cell, and authorities believe he most likely has returned to the rugged Sinaloa mountains, where for years he ruled a worldwide drug operation estimated to bring in $30 billion a year in the U.S. alone.

His escape marked the second time he has broken out of a Mexican prison. It is also the second time the U.S. has offered to help in his capture, providing assistance in 2014 when he was apprehended in Mexico.


One senior Drug Enforcement Administration official said Wednesday that officials from the two countries talked on Sunday, within 24 hours of the escape. “They pledged their continued well-established cooperation focusing on his capture,” the DEA official said.

On Monday, the source said, Mexican and U.S. officials met privately in Mexico City and agreed to coordinate efforts. That was followed by a high-level meeting on Tuesday between U.S. Ambassador to Mexico E. Anthony Wayne and Miguel Angel Osorio Chong, Mexico’s interior minister. The source said the meeting was “to review bilateral cooperation regarding committing all available resources to recapture him.”

The U.S. official added, “Everybody is united and on board on this moving forward.”


But after those private meetings, Osorio Chong announced publicly that no additional U.S. aid was needed at this time. “We are not going to do something new beyond what we have already been doing,” he said.

101 comments:

  1. "It just looks like we've gone back 50 years," said Mexican security expert Raul Benitez.

    Asi es.

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    1. 7:56 50 years ago mexico had a rosy future, full of promises, televicentro did not have so many pederasta drug traffickers, and painted that future rosy for us in grainy black and white televisors...
      --now televisa hides our black dark past of the last 50 years in full color wide screen popó a todo color...
      --and televisa hides our present too, too much blood for their exquisite good taste...

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  2. OSORIO CHONG, CHINGA TODA TU REPUTA MADRE

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  3. Chong is a PENDEJO! Drop.the PRIDE Chong/Mexico, Chapo made you PENDEJOS look like part timers, rent-a-cops!!

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  4. "We are not going to do something new beyond what we have already been doing".

    Because the manner in which the Mexican government has conducted itself is going so well for them. Now an international laughing stock, no one respects authority in Mexico. Not even the authorites.

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    1. Very funny, I was thinking along those lines as well.

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  5. They are our narcos they are our problem

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    1. Then keep your narcos out of other countries please.

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    2. they are the ones that help the corrupt elite stay in power and keep the masses poor and uneducated

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    3. Haha, exactly...and you guys cant even hold the guy at a prison. Your problem, that you cant take care of.

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    4. The US and Mexico benefit from the drug trade. El Chapo us use full to both governments. When he ceases to be useful he will meet the same fate as Pablo Escobar. The real money grab is the trade agreement just passed by the US congress. El Chapo is a distraction while the real stealing starts.It is NAFTA on steroids.The people of Mexico will continued to be exploited by the Mexican elite at the behest of the US government. Business as usual people move along nothing to see hear

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    5. Yea, like if the average person has control of these narcos. dumb comnent canadiana

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    6. It was sarcasm.

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    7. Canadian gangster got murdered in Acapulco recently remember?
      Then we have many canadian gangsters working in mehico, mehican in canada and kenyan gangsters stealing the white house from rightful honorable american candidates...

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    8. Yes and they get killed.They have no idea of the corruption because they never experienced it [sharing the wealth] and have no idea how cheap life is there til its game over.

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    9. 12:11 speaks the truth.. props to my educated brother/sister.

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    10. Canadiana get informed canadians know about all this bull shit , you guys dont live in heaven your people loves getting high face it...go outside buddy

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  6. They should just give up.. el chapo will never be caught again. SU gente ya anda al millon operando el la Sierra y la ciudad. Arriba el chapo y el senor mayo.- el morroñis de la palma navolato, sinaloa

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  7. Of course mexico says NO dont want to pull the plug on their personal ATM USA will go in there and find chapo quick because USA knows were chapo is. Do u think usa was not keeping an eye on chapo at their own expense

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    1. u r right, but Chapo has more power than Nieto "Mini Mi"

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  8. Don't help those idiots. Let the cartels kill up every government official. Just make sure he doesn't cross into the US. That would be his greatest mistake, entering the lion's den. Keep doing what they been doing? What is that? Allowing him years of freedom? Watch this guy wind up with a hit.

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    1. hr jas crossed recently idk but way back he used to cross into usa. at obe of his tunnels.

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  9. My interpretation of what Osorio Chong said is:
    We let him escape from our prison, embarrassing Mexico throughout the world. How can we possibly allow the Americanos to come into our country and let them capture Chapo once again? Such action would further embarrass Mexico and Mini Me, I mean the President. In addition, President Pene Necio and his entourage of 300 of his closest friends haven't returned from their little excursion in France. He hasn't had time to count the cash in the three suitcases that were delivered to Los Pinos 3-hours after Chapo made his escape. Do you have any idea how many $20.00 and $50.00 dollar bills fit in three suitcases? By the way Chapo, the box of Cuban cigars was a nice touch.

    Just my interpretation. Of course, I could be wrong but then again, I could be right.

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    1. Hey everybody needs a vacation

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  10. Just walk away USA . seal the borders tight . clean up our own streets ( drug use) . Its time for Mexico to hunt this dude and play their own cat and mouse game . Time for Mexican citizens to rise up and clean house . You Mexicans are being cheated and robbed of a decent living standard in your own country . you cant trust your governmant , your narco fabulous image has you living in ignorance . the rich elite dont give a damm about the poor . Free Mireles . he will find Chapo .

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    1. Seal the borders we don't want more guns in mexico either by the way the shooting in Chattanooga was done by a Mexican ? No, trump n his followers only focus on vulnerable undocumented migrants but fear to death Muslims.

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    2. I agree with you on some stuff but ultimately you're clueless. Most of Mexico is indeed being robbed, not only buy politicians but buy cartels that permit or enforce extortion... not in Sinaloan territory though. While the rest of Mexico is struggling for that decent standard of living, Sinaloa is reinvesting that drug money into legitimate businesses, which in turn creates jobs for those who wish to work legitimately. Aside from that, extortion and kidnappings are highly penalized by death from the cartel... The rich elite politicians don't care about the mexican people but i can assure you that for the most part, the Sinaloan narcos do. To be humble and never forget where you started from is one of the traits they almost all try to adopt.

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  11. Jajjaaj que pinche novela.

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  12. "But after those private meetings, Osorio Chong announced publicly that no additional U.S. aid was needed at this time. “We are not going to do something new beyond what we have already been doing,” he said."

    This pretty much proves that there was high ranking Mexican officials involved with Chapos' escape.

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    1. He is right, he did nothing here in Tamps.

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    2. 4:58 having so many criminals killing each other in trampaulipas is a big achievement, viejidio cantu going for all the marbles for peña-osorio's el pri...

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  13. If they get help from the US they will catch him, they don't want that they just let him go.

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  14. Dinero amigos es el que manda aqui!!! Chapo guzman really pays his dues. You dont pay u get extradited to weritos.

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  15. Correle chapo correle, ve a ajustar cuentas pendientes

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  16. Of course he doesn't want US help. The corruption runs deep!

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  17. Caro Quintero released, Oops, we fucked up.
    Chapo Guzman escaped, Oops, we fucked up again.
    Is the Mexican government really that stupid or is someone secretly on the take?
    This is getting to be like a movie sequel. The public is anxious to see which millionaire cartel leader will be out next. (Or should I say will buy their way out next.)

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    1. It's no secret Mexican politicians are on the take. Why do you think 20-30 million illegal immigrants from Mexico have migrated to the US since the 80's? It's not because they just love the US. It's because the poor and lower middle class are targeted by the government and narcos. The US is the better choice for them and their families. If the US wants Chapo then they will get Chapo with or without Mexico's permission. It's just a matter of fact but will it happen sooner or later. I believe later because US politicians really want to believe Mexico is sincere about cleaning up their country. If Mexico doesn't catch Chapo within a certain time frame then there will be some splaining to do.

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  18. Pinche chimi chonga.. Why is this this Chinese motherfucker Mexican? China Just mining the shit out of Mexico, while everyone only gives notice to the war on drugs. Ayy lmao

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  19. The usa can capture el chapo guzmam or el mencho in 5 minutes just like they kill osama bin laden whit the drones and the well train american solders the drug lords will be running for their lives and their body guards will shit their pants but like we all know the mex goverment protects them - El gringo -

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    1. They why don't they do it??? They can't.

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    2. Nobody wants to kill chapo.....dont u get it......thats why he was released.....to get control and run shit like its supposed to be

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    3. It wouldn't take 5 minutes you fool. I see you refer to Osama Bin Laden so ignorant because it sure as hell didn't take them a little while to catch him try since at least 1998 until they found him in 2011. So just keep your shit shut gringo stop thinking the u.s forces are perfect and could find anyone in very little time. A little info to humble your cocky faith in u.s forces google Ayman Al Zawahiri. Hopefully now on you will wake up from your little dream and realize the u.s forces cant stop drug trafficking or terrorism.

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    4. It took the USA 10 years to find and kill Bin Laden not 5 minutes.... Just saying....

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    5. @ July 17, 2015 at 1:05 AM and July 17, 2015 at 6:30 AM

      Ehhh No! You two clowns are WRONG! It didn't take ten years, U.S. forces actually had that rat bin laden surrounded in some mountains in the early 2000's, but, for some stupid reason, they were given orders to back down. It's usually the higher ups that tie the hands of the military and wont let them do their job.

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    6. President Clinton could have killed Bin Laden in 1998 but he chose not to due to the huge possibility of collateral damage. He could have been killed in the battle of Tora Bora in late 2001 but the military was halted in their advance for some reason. That lead to Bin Laden escaping to Pakistan. Chapo is no Bin Laden and I doubt he has the ability to hide as well as Bin Laden did.

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    7. Clinton cld of killed bin Laden before when he was president but he pussied out

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    8. @11:58 I'm amazed it took this long for me to see a comment along these lines

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  20. Complete and utter stupidity on Chong.How much is he getting.? If you need to catch the World's most wanted drug Lord,why would you turn down the help.? He should be indicted and prosecuted on corruption charges. Don't say you want to catch him and then not use Drones...

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  21. macho runs deep. it's a disease. culero!

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  22. Behind the scenes, the U.S. have always been in Mexico, just research reports on the days before the execution of Arturo Beltran, where voices over the police radios were in English, also you can see DEA agents during the actual raid where Arturo Beltran was killed.. it is widely known how the US provided assistance in the capture of El Chapo and there is also reports of tall, blue eyed "Mexican Marines" who speak gravely accented Spanish, in the Sinaloan sierras. They are all over the place in Mexico anyway, why do they need to make it more obvious.

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    1. and the article says as much. (2nd paragraph) what they are rejecting is technology help, which is what caught chapo the first time. it is technology that Mexico does not have.



      You missed the point.

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    2. That last sentence said it all-We are not going to do anything different.Same old corruption in other words.Why wouldn't you want to try something new and different?Even if the US captures him Mexico can still take the credit.No 1 has to know.Obviously $$ is more important then their reputation in the eyes of the world.

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    3. Just leave Mexico alone it will all work out in 10 r 15 years

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    4. Where are those reports about voices over the police radios in english? Who are your sources on a tall blue eye "mexican marines"? Do you live or have you been in the Sinaloa sierras?
      Go and keep playing Call of Duty boy.

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    5. 6:38am what do you care about sources? The truth is that the US is all over Mexico "secretly". Always have always will. BB has a story of a US Marshal wounded in Sinaloa as they were looking for narcos in a field. 6 sicarios died but the big fish got away. The Marshal was taken to the hospital and the flown out of the country before he could be questioned. It's a known fact ATF, DEA and the Marshal's office routinely send agents to Mexico dresses as local LE or military. Looks to me like 11:25 knows what he is talking about and you 6:38 need to go back to playing video games.

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    6. There are blue eyed Mexicans too in the Marina, and if it were true then it will be a lot easier to get US hispanics soldiers rather than anglos easy to spot them. Your commen is out of logic, seems like you are more biased about race than logic. PS Us Military has more hispanics than any other race.

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  23. Dicen que al chapó va a salir en el programa de Laura en América :)
    Luego la zerota va a anunciar:
    "Que pase El Desgraciadooooooooo"

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    1. Televisa loves Laura de Mexico, he/she is their connection to Peru's "coca~colas"...

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  24. Stop providing us federal aid to this shithole and use that money to enforce much MUCH tighter border security. Let all of them dirty scumbags live off of chapos dime and see just how far his money goes.

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    1. as long as we have drug addicts in the united states we will have drug trafficking problems. throwing money in one shit hole into another wont help.

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    2. Wasting more billions of Dollars on "securing" the border is not the answer as you suggest, drug dealers would only switch operations into the U.S.. you can already see that move In Ca., where tons of marihuana is being produced by Mexican organizations. As long as there is an appetite for drugs , there is going to be somebody that will produce those drugs.

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    3. Lobbyists for tighter border security on the US side have not come up with "reliable" propo$$al$, if'n you know whatimean...
      --money talks, bullshit walks, with bozo shoes...

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  25. Chapo captured and more drugs and addicts in America.
    No real difference if Chapo is in or out as the War on Drugs is a BIG FAILURE.
    Of course except for the the ones on big taxpayer $$$$$$
    Hilarious!

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  26. I agree with the Chinito, I am an American, it is not any our business how Mexico handles the capture od Chapo. We got enough crime and addiction to worry about.
    USA stand out of Mexico

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  27. They made so much $$$$$ off this deal, they could care less if Chapo gets caught

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  28. Did yoo guys already forget a few years ago a plane went down in cancun area with 8 tons of cocaine .The coke belonged to chapo and the plain to th CIA.
    We are all in trouble Mexico and th United States .

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  29. Business is great in Mexico if u are a outside investor . people Mexico r so poor they will work. In Mexico the rich get richer poor get poorer

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  30. If things do not work out in the Mexico blame it on the US

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  31. I wish America wld stay out of this. They are ALWAYS in every other countries business n they try to be the saviour. Makes me SICK

    The Vegas Guys

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    1. Then why is Mexico taking money. It is something that is effecting the USA and Mexico. The drug dealers push the drugs that hurt people. Then they buy guns with the money to take home and kill lots of people with. They are doing the damage on both sides of the border. Cut them out and a lot of people will stop dying on both sides of the border. But the USA will take him out and the Mexican government wants to get its cut from the Narco's.

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  32. PRI-government set him fee, PRI- government will protect his freedom. Chapo will pay bigger piso to PRI-government. It's so simple.

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  33. I have a dumb question. Can the USA use a secret drone and shoot him dead with bullets (no bombs) and pretend he was killed by someone else?

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    1. Of course and they do it alot of times and to top it up they can even blame a innocent person for it to make it more believable.

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    2. I am tired of that word drone, man cartel already are using drones instead of look up to prvide info about militars, transporting drugs and many more stuff, cartels soldier are very clevers that they can use any technology and they can destroy it easily, a drone from us will last ten minutes in Mexican border before it will get chot by a 50 cal barret. do not be naive about drones they are not invisible.

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  34. Pinche chino chong thinks everyone is stupid and ignorant. Mexican we have our share of idiots in USA ,but those in mexico are the worst I have seen in my 50 years

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  35. Mexico can't even capture el Chapo's kids.

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    1. Correction, they haven't been able to capture el Chapo's kids yet.. Give it sometime... It's only a matter of time.. Might take years but they'll get caught...

      And lets not forget what happened to Egdar, El Chapo's son.. Shot to death by almost 40 gunmen and from what I understand he was not involved in the drug trade,,

      Not as glamorous as you might think, being a relative of El Chapo...

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    2. Chapo's son Edgar was part of the business, he was Chapo's smartest kid in terms of drug related business. It was a mistake when he got killed (by Chapo's people) he didn't report/ lied about where he was and in turn was killed with his cousin and a Cazares kid. JC Chavez jr. Married the deceased's girl and is now step dad to Chapo's granddaughter.

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    3. Why was JC Chavez Jr at the party where Pancho Rafail Arellano was murdered?
      Can you be friend of both sides?

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    4. Los Tucanes play for ALL sides

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    5. he was at that party because his brother was there and he had a boxing match in that area that weekend

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    6. But that is chaqueteros all over, why don't they all just kiss and make out?
      --Not you Mil Mascaras, leave your lipstick alone...and put your boots on, you paint your toenails for personal pleasure, keep it personal and private...

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  36. I think it's time the US takes full control of Mexico. Mexican officials are all corrupt thieves only looking out for their best interest and not the of the people. I say we take Mexico shape it up and once we get everything under control make it a part of the US. Fuck Mexico. I was born there and lived there for a long time. I am an upstanding and abiding US citizen that does not live off the government.

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    1. ¿Que pasa?
      Silly rabbit. El Chapo has not paid Osario Chingus yet. ¿Quiere detener antes de el que rinde pagos?

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  37. What is this guy a mole? He seems to love tunnels like one lol!

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  38. Today is the day people, Mexico put its oil up for private foreign investment. Cartel Bosses ain't shit next to this cartel...Chapo is now a little duck in a giant pond, he better retire or leave the county, real $$$ is about to flow to the political corrupt in Mexico (everyone in the whole government). Times are changing in Mexico....

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  39. Chapo and our government have been bin cahoots for awhile im sure, our government knows everything

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  40. NAVY SEALS will have to go and dress as Mexicans soldiers again and shoot chapo. Looks like he has Mexican goverment in his pocket, most likely even U.S. If he does not grt killed or captured this year, I doubt he will ever get captured because that means he's not being sought after. real spitt

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  41. imma say this only

    before the year ends, el chapo is going to be found dead...
    and i mean potos proof and all that shit
    but of course its not gonna be joaquin
    and is going to be a narcowar in mexico all over again
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    just wait and watch

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    1. By thanksgiving right? are you that same guy?

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  42. I dont have any problem with anybody buying drugs the same way i dont have a problem with anyone selling them.......you get rid of your problem with it you get rid of the problem. All you mental midgets sticking to your ideologies of fighting this war on drugs just drag the rest of society down with you. We dont have any liberties in America anymore because my fellow countrymen are pussies. Scared of a joint and a line of coke.

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    1. those lines of coke get heads chopped off and innocents dismembered. it might not look like a war in your neighborhood but go down to Mexico and continue farther down south , you will see "the war on drugs "

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  43. someone needs to pay a visit to this guy Miguel Angel Osorio Chong

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  44. Well my komrads everyone knows that Mexico is joke as far as the government goes. ....but it's just my opinion

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  45. It is evident that chapo was going to talk if extradated. The Mexican government needs chapo dead in order to keep him from snitching on Mexican officials.

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    1. Believe me, the snitching is in, but somewhere safe, el chapo no esta solo, la CIA guards his ass like an angel guardian...

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  46. This has CORRUPTION written all over it. But the U.S. Is ignorant. They keep giving Mexico billions in aide.

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  47. U.s can't even take care of there gang problems
    #Oakland
    #chicago
    #Detroit

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    1. 5:12
      #CIA
      #DEA
      #NSA
      #FBI
      etc etc etc...

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    2. MAAN, THAT'S THERE GANGS PROBLEMS WITH PROBLEMOS THERE, MUCHOS, MUCHOS PROBLEMOS THERE...IN THE US...

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