Sunday, May 3, 2015

Jalisco: Search continues for three soldiers missing from gunned down military helicopter

Lucio R. Borderland Beat

On Friday when a military helicopter was disabled by CJNG gunman and forcing “an emergency landing” (or crash) three military soldiers were “unaccounted” for in the aftermath.  Since then the search by land and air commenced but has been unsuccessful.

The spokesman for the Secretariat of National Defense (SEDENA) reported that air and ground patrols continue the search in the area when the aircraft went down, in the municipality of Villa Purificación adjacent to the Casimiro Castillo-Villa Purificación Highway.

Further details, have been shrouded carefully by the feds.

However, they did explain that Just prior to the incident, the Cougar helicopter spotted a convoy of vehicles and began shadowing it under reconnaissance.

Residents report there was a convoy of about 12 vehicles filled with armed men, who at some point realized they were being tailed, and opened fire at the aircraft, with men exiting the vehicles to attack the helicopter.  Most of the gunfire was seemingly aimed at the back of the aircraft and successfully impacted the tail and the rear rotor.

The convoy reacted in an organized manor, fully prepared, without hesitancy to initiate the preemptive strike when bringing down the aircraft.

In the balance, 3 soldiers were killed at the site, 10 injured, 2 state police injured, and 3 soldiers taken by CJNG convoy members.  It was not reported by authorities who the elements were on the Cougar, or if any were military officers.  There have been reports that the aircraft did have passengers that were military officers.


Noteworthy is that the authorities refused to say the 3 soldiers were abducted, because “they have no proof of that”, they are more comfortable to say “accounted for” or “missing”.  Nor will they say how the soldiers accounted for, were killed and injured. 

In speculating as to why the cartel would take 3 military personnel, if they were in fact taken, it is feasible that they were taken to extract intelligence from the soldiers, especially if they are high ranking or officers.  But that is purely conjecture on my part.

It doesn't make sense that they would abduct 3 soldiers for the purpose of killing them, that could have been done at the scene and only 3 were killed of the 18 were dead at the crash site.


The rumor mill had El Mencho in either Autlán, or Tonaya, both near the crash site, that was never confirmed by authorities but neither was the fact that he was not captured, or slipped away as he did in 2012.  

At that time he was able to escape because of considerable amount of narco blockades raised, much like those of Friday.

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59 comments:

  1. I was thinking if Mencho was captured or will be captured, CJNG could use the 3 soldiers to trade for him.

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    1. They are probably already dead.

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    2. They joined cjng

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    3. They already were cjng

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    4. OR WORSE THAN DEAD LIKE GETTING THEIR BALLS FRY STYLE

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    5. Wouldnt be the first or last time the military joins the cartels

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    6. no, most likely first they obviously got all the intel they could out of them, via torture, then they killed them, they do not make them join them because they could never be trusted, it would be childish of them to do that.

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  2. Just out of curiosity, why was the helicopter so close and within the cartel's fire power? Ignorant pilot or under estimation of fire power?

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    1. Same can be said for Somalia.

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    2. 1 of the Delta operators was dragged through the streets dead. But you wont see that in the Black Hawk Down movie. El Soldado Perdido

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    3. The EC 725 helicopter is marketed for troop transport, casualty evacuation, and combat search and rescue duties, and is similar to the civilian EC 225. Not for combat. It was made in France. The copter should have made fast and erratic moves to avoid fire once the men exited their vehicles. The Black Hawks are usually taken down with rocket launchers. The results probably would have been a lot different if a Black Hawk had been used in this instance. They would have been equipped to take the out whole line of vehicles within seconds. So you cannot compare the two. The Black Hawk was made to go into battle. This French copter was not made to follow armed combatants.

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    4. I missed stating a model AH-60L DAP Black Hawk attack helicopter would have taken them out in seconds.

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    5. Actually that is in the movie. They strip and drag him.

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    6. You may also find it interesting that with all the bullets flying at the Black Hawks, it was RPG's that took the two Black Hawks down. It took a while to bring them down and they were able to take out may of the enemy combatants. It sounds like the helicopter in Mexico went down quick without putting up any resistance.

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    7. True, and true on the comments. Somalia. Wow, what a shithole.

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    8. People complain about Mexico being bad and all. And it is true but only to a certain point. Go to Somalia and experience PURE MISERY in all it's glorious evil.

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  3. General blackjack and his cavalry thought that chasing Pancho Villa was un baile de carquis...
    They never caught him, John Pershing and his cavalry and airplanes...
    Today's mexican army, may be up to the task of finding el mencho and all the narcs they want, if they are ready to pay the price, for a government that does not deserve it...

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  4. Consider the 3 soliders dead. The search is a waste of time.

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    1. The search is never a waste of time. How dedicated would a soldier be if he knew you would just abandon him if the SHTF? You never leave a soldier behind, If all you find are pieces, you put them in a box and send them to his momma.

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    2. The mexican armed forces make sure their victims disappear, they will not return one hair to their mommas, like pinochet, they throw many of them on the sea...

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    3. Shakespeare wrote it but 2pac said it best: A coward dies a thousand deaths. A soldier dies but once.

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    4. it is a sin to the human intelect to put Shakespeare and Tupac in the same sentence, the first an icon of human culture, the second one pop icon.

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  5. maybe they first make a narco-ganda video with the soldiers first, then release them.

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  6. CJNG use military tactics are well organized an armed .
    Its time to send the Presidential Gafe Unit and the Navy Seals dressed as Mexican Marina.

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    1. That's exactly what their going to do navy seals

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    2. In Panama, two Panamanian Air Force guards killed four seals and wounded eight of them. The SEALS are not invincible.

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    3. My guess there is already US Special Force element already in Mexico laying low waiting for orders. If you understand US special forces tactics you would know they move quietly in smaller units so not to be detected. You will never know they are there unless they want you too know. It could be the Navy Seals, Green Berets or Force Recon. They all are well equipped for any situation when they get the call.

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    4. DOÑA MARINA, "LA MALINCHE" COULD BE THEIR SAINT PATRON.
      Since they (the marinas) are doing the job of the conquistadores for them...

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    5. Nice joke buddy CJNG are bunch of bums drug addict pendejos

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    6. Nae man ur wrong @ 6:33 most of the cjng are ex military

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    7. Oh no the Seals are far from invisible but Panama was total screw up by those in charge of the mission. Use the Seals correctly and they will complete their mission with precision. The taking of that airport should have been assigned to the Army Ranger and not Seals.

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  7. Black hawk down

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  8. la familia shot down 2 choppers in michoacan when they were active

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    1. In Afghanistan, the Taliban shot down a US chopper killing 20 SEALS and other troops.

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    2. Having seen helicopters crash, shot down and for other reasons, I can tell you that an "emergency landing" can leave plenty of dead and seriously injured.

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  9. Oh man!! they are either dead, most likely. Or...the CJNG are holding them, for whatever reasons. Maybe...just maybe, some type of "deal" could be made, to get those 3 back. We have all seen hostage deals made in govt before...Remember the rouge American solider, who got released, out for the release of terrorists?

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  10. The US Congress today made demands and wants to now attempt to label the criminal element cartels in Mexico as terrorists. If this move is passed and the cartels denoted and labeled as terrorists this will give the US free reign to cross borders legally in their fight to safeguard the border and protect the security interests of the American people. Wow, if this happens these cartels better look out because its "game on." Mencho lit a fire he can't put out, the US wants action against the cartels like they did in Colombia. This is the best news I have heard and if approved all these fuck scums are going to be hunted down and US special forces do not like taking prisoners. Terminate on sight with extreme prejudice.

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    1. Cite your source. What makes you think Congress did anything of the sort?

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  11. Us is saying these guy are terrorist?how can you say so if they have not terrorized their country ??terriost in there own country (mexico) yes I belive that one but idk wtf us wants to do in Mexico my people doesn't wantvyou there!!

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    1. They are terrorists though... The only difference between them and ISIS/Al-Qaeda is their beliefs..

      Make no mistake about it either group would more than likely kill you and your whole family if they felt it was necessary...

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    2. Your "narco" people?

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  12. Unless CJNG does some "talking", this will remain in a shroud of secrecy, when it comes to the govt releasing any info.

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  13. According to this, they used an RPG on the chopper. I read somewhere that they had also used an RPG on a military truck when they killed fifteen, but according to this article, this was the first use of an RPG. At least it wasn't a SAM which is supposedly what the Taliban used to down the chopper in Afghanistan that killed all those SEALS.

    http://diario.mx/Nacional/2015-05-04_3a521bf7/utilizo-cartel-un-cohete-para-derribar-helicoptero/

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  14. They are well armed rpgs and m60s and that was just templarios..could only imagine these guys with deeper pockets

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  15. All this in Jalisco means that Tequila prices are gonna go up in the Good Old USofA!!

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  16. Chihuahua and Jalisco are risen hell right now

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  17. So who's talking about la familia? If u can't keep up with the conversation then shut up 😒

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  18. A barret would have no problem to hit the chopper

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  19. Who's to say they were mexican soldiers maybe they're american soldiers

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    1. Or maybe they're russian soldiers, or german, or maybe they're the expendables.

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  20. were are the pictures of the down chopper?

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  21. They have rpgs and m60s i could only imagine what else since they have deep pockets

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  22. Yahoo is reporting they have been found dead.

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  23. The good ol usofA is arming the cartels..the us is the biggest arms dealer. We have seen they have super meth labs producing tons of meth which =dinero y pistolas.

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    1. So you are saying if Mexico got rid of the cartels, Mexico would not have anymore problems. No cartel to buy them, no more problems? Because no country in the world, not even Mexico can get rid of drug users and alcoholics.

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  24. Please stop with the us congress, us military, seals, Rangers, drones, terroists talk. It's nonsense. Mexico government don't want them there and the geopolitical clout the US has is dwindling. Put your USofA nuts away. I can make crazy statements too like russia would be more than willing to help Mexican rebels as they would label them to fight and keep the US out and nothing the U.S. can do about it. Check your nuts before hitting publish.

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  25. BorderlandBeat you people are speculating. Are you informing us? Or misinforming us?

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    1. hey willita, if it says speculation that is what it is,
      now isn't that easy?
      go back to sleep now

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