Tuesday, May 5, 2015

Jalisco: CJNG used a RPG to bring down military helicopter

Lucio R. republished from Noricieros


A Castillo-like postilion is being considered for Jalisco

Monte Alejandro Rubido García, head of the National Security Committee (CNS), said the attack on a military helicopter shows the "firepower" of the organized crime group in Jalisco. (CJNG)

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Rubido Garcia said "Operation Jalisco" will remain in the state to dismantle criminal groups operating in the state.

He noted that a list of priorities was established “at the beginning of President Peña’s administration, and work has been initiated.

However, Jalisco had not been placed in a position of priority, but after the May 1 violence in Jalisco, a "significant effort in the Mexican State has now been enforced in pursuit of the leader of CJNG Cartel Jalisco New Generation, Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes (El Mencho).

He stressed that the attack on a military helicopter with a RPG rocket type shows the "firepower" of organized crime in the state.
The chief of the CNS stated that he is contemplating appointing a special commissioner for Jalisco, as was done in Michoacán (Alfredo Castillo)

The chief of the CNS stated that he is  contemplating appointing a special commissioner for Jalisco, as was done in Michoacán (Alfredo Castillo)

Confusion over number of deaths and missing soldiers


Lucio: After being reported since Friday that in the violence 7 people were killed including 3 soldiers and one police, now the number has doubled over night from late Sunday to this morning, now the reported total is 15.  Of the 15 authorities claim most were cártel gunmen. 

However today Rubio Garcia said the number is 5.

He also said that maybe the three missing soldiers are not missing after all and were killed in the helicopter attack/crash.  He added a disclaimer “but that is purely speculation on my part”.


95 comments:

  1. Yeah send in Seal Team 6 or any U.S. agency to dismantle them just like they have been able to get rid of ISIS or Taliban! Woohooo Mmmmerika f#ck yeah! Bozo's.......

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    1. Isis and the Taliban are still around boso

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    2. We did get rid of or at least relocated them to a different scenery and then we left the country!

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    3. You cant even control BlackISIS which destroyed Ferguson and Baltimore and you want to fight the cartels?

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    4. Hmmmm you know I was being sarcastic right? U.S. has never had success in guerrilla warfare. That's why Vietcong fuck@d them and ISIS and North Korea and Taliban. Them tactics are allot harder than just pishing a button and dropping bombs on some mo'fos. And no......no patriotic dumbasses U.S. will not bomb Mexican soil.

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    5. We don't want Americans here fuck off!we can take on our own people and she's our own blood if we need to but we need to get rid of the scum

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    6. @7:23AM Yeah those of you in Mexico have really taken care of your own people!!! What's the number of missing/killed now....125,000+???? Way to go Mexico.

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    7. Of course we wont bomb Mexican soil. We shouldnt spend $1 sending a bomb over there. You guys clean up you're own country, we will worry about ourselves. And you can have Baltimore and Ferguson now that you mention it

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    8. That's right,and we can even stop whining as well

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    9. The US ain't getting involved in that shit,your kidding,it's Mexico,leave em to it..

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    10. 7.23
      I can hear violins?

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    11. Ridiculous people

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    12. Private military contractors (mercenaries) WANT the mexico business, with their license to kill anybody, excellent pay and wholesale impunity, next door!!!
      --Those mercenaries will even finance the conflicts that facilitate their participation anywhere in the world, because of con#licts.of interest between private contractors, private prisons, private intelligence, private education, private justice, private legislation...
      --the smaller government the republicans sought since IKE denounced the military-industrial complex has turned into an expensive catastrophe, full of impunity for too many greedy criminals still bent on robbing the american public of reputation, morals and treasury, and are more inefficient than the "big government" ever was...

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    13. That's not the same sentiment that others post here but thanks for your opinion! :-)

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    14. The best thing that ever happened to the Middle East is ISIS. Now these dumb camel jockeys can kill themselves off in the name of Allah. Just like the narcos are the best thing that has ever happened to Mexico. Maybe they wouldn't mind employing all the poor in Mexico so they would want to stay in Mexico. Or maybe kidnap a few thousand Central Americans while they are at it so they can't make into the US. Thanks Narcos from your neighbors up north.

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    15. Actually the US is very well equipped for guerrilla warfare. The problem is when the enemy hides from you and don't want to fight what can you do. They hide weapons in schools and hospitals then hide their dirty asses in the hills. When American troops leave the area then they want to come out to fight. No one heard of ISIS when the US troops were in Iraq. All of a sudden when the US leaves they attack the peaceful areas. They kill peaceful non Muslims then rape women and children all in the name of Allah. Yeah ISIS are tough guys all right. The narcos are not a true direct threat to the US so they are safe. They are a lot smarter than most people give them credit for. ISIS is a different story.

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    16. 11.23
      Exactly brother,don't get involved,Mexico and many of her people hate the US no matter what it tried to do to help.

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    17. @ 1:46 you will never rid the U.S.A. of Latinos. Never ever ever. They were here along with the Indians long before the Anglos came along with their slaves. They are the real Native Americans. So keep your racist comments among your trailer trash people to yourselves. Or suffer the wrath. You decide.

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    18. Oh ok 11:53 what a successful campaign hahaha. And no the US gets they're asses handed to them when they can't just drop bombs. Its different when you can't hide behind the security of a plane, helicopter or tank.

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    19. Guerrilla warfare in a U.S. occupied country is no good unless they stay are planning to stay, somewhat like Japan.

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    20. 4.38
      Just what we needed,another racist Mexican on BB?Why do it?All it achieves is bad feeling and negativity?

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    21. Ohh yeah..MM Alert (manic Milliie) all over this post

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    22. @4:38PM
      Native americans are not latin.

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    23. @2:02 ISIS was al queda in Iraq under abu musab al Zarqawi when us troops were there and they were always tearing shit up

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    24. The only reason the US doesn't kick more ass in wars against insurgencies is because we care about collateral damage, otherwise anbar province would be glass and ISIS would nothing but the grandiose memory of some horny ass arab teen lusting after our hot women in yoga pants

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    25. Who wants to get rid of Latinos 4:36 pm? I am married to one so why would I want to get rid of them. Her family came to the US LEGALLY and that is what I expect from those who want to come to the US. Secondly, I don't live in a trailer FYI. Thirdly, I don't consider myself a racist. I find myself to be a much harsher critic of my race than othe races. I do have certain prejudices but don't we all. And 5:41pm what do you know about war other than playing Call of Duty on a occasion. The only asses that were handed to anyone was the enemies of the US. The US lost maybe 7k soldiers while the enemy lost damn near 1 million. Wow, we really got our asses handed to us. Whoopy fucking do!!! I wasn't good at math but 7 thousand versus 1 million is an ass kicking going in the other direction. Call me crazy.

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    26. Well there you have who is the murderous one, abusing it's war making powers and paraphernalia against friend and foe, the US of A.

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  2. It wasn't a Rpg. It was a stinger missile . I was drinking beer with my big homie and he has connects from jalisco he said fucken paisas they have some crazy ass arsenal, and he show me some facebook pics from this paisa from jalisco with a stinger......here is a video similar to the pic. Watch "LAS FARC YA TIENEN EN SU PODER MANPADS ( (Man-Por…" on YouTube
    LAS FARC YA TIENEN EN SU PODER MANPADS ( (Man-Por…: http://youtu.be/W-BrmvpcnYg

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    1. I asked an expert about the possibility of manpads used by cartels as the next weapon progression. he did not think it made sense. I wasn't so sure.

      but manpads have never been confirmed, photographed, if you have the fotos that prove otherwise whey not just send them in? that would be huge news. sending a video of farc doesn't help

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    2. Yep some paisas like you just wanted to tell you to stop with the paisa you are a paisa too dont try to say you are a gangster because it sounds like the paisas have more gangster in them than you!

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    3. But chivis , farc are big weapons dealers if they have em , cartels can easily have em .

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    4. It's güey chivis, güey...
      I don't think calling "manpads" any kind of weapons is like a great honor, I would not know one from a lollipop, I guess I need to go back to square one...

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    5. Do us all a favor and shoot your friend in the face next time you see him. Gracias carnal.

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    6. Las farc are from colombia stupid not from mexico

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    7. Saudi Arabia accused of supplying manpads to siryan rebels fighting assad...
      Manpads also said to be chinese manufactured, to save face for the real troublemakers, english and american mercenaries and war profiteers...
      --I thought they was dirty pampers for men, and mercenaries would be slapping each other in the snouts, it may end the conflicts sooner...
      --It makes sense, the chinese realize some $ale$, added to their meth precursors and mercenaries get new opportunities make good money on both sides of the border

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    8. Watch "How to Buy Nukes on the Black Market" on YouTube
      How to Buy Nukes on the Black Market: http://youtu.be/0c4f4NJSB_4.

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    9. @10:11pm

      Stingers are next to impossible to get unless it's the Chinese carbon copy make, still difficult to get tho. Lol, your sources are "paisas".

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    10. To 6:54

      Las Farc and Mexican cartels do business all the time...you shouldn't call people stupid at all.

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    11. Of course they are going to elevate their arsenals..The bigger, the better. As long as they are being made, they are going to be sold and traded. If they want it bad enough, they can get it..whatever it is.
      Weapons are not just big guns,they also come in other forms, such as gases.That's some evil shit, mustard gas..However, it's people in this world, who are more than willing, to sell them some. That's taking war to a new level altogether, but..it happens.

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    12. IF the US sold poison gases to saddam hussein, with donald rumsfeld being the middleman, I guess the mexicans can buy their own shit wherever they want to...

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  3. Oh NO another Castillo will be appointed. How does Chente feel about all this violence in his state?

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    1. Chente's new home state is Florida, but Alejandro goes often to see his kids and former wife

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  4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XiSnCt9fDc

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  5. They went grand theft auto on that ass lol

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  6. Now is the time Mexico... let us (former military and law enforcement Americans of Mexican decent) join your ranks and vanish the cartels from the motherland! There are many of us with training and experience ready to help our native land! Do what Israel does and call us, allow us to return home and fight for what is right. VIVA MEXICO

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    1. Ok see you later

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    2. The trick is to find each other and organize. Then pick a commander. LOL
      I wish!

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    3. You should join the cartels and fight the Las Lomas Cartel and their big momma, grupo atracomulco, then grupo HIGA, grupo monterrey...etc etc etc, because they are the biggest mexican criminals...

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    4. That's a tough one because even though we want those people dead the sad truth is that in Mexico they are a large part of the economy

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  7. It has just been reported that the remains of the three missing soldiers were found inside the downed Cobra helicopter burned beyond recognition. It seems to me that the authorities of Mexico have their hands full, if not met their match, with the CJNG. If anybody has seen the pictures/videos of CJNG gunmen, they appear well built and well fed -apart from well armed. They are especially well-trained as evidenced by their recent killings of gendarmeria/estatales in an engagement and ambush respectively. There not skinny teenage under fed/equipped/trained gunmen usually utilized by the Zetas. These CJNG sicarios have the appearance of well-trained former or even current military personnel/federal police. I will even go as far as saying that the federal authorities would hesitate in going all out against CJNG. Effectively using a rocket launcher to bring down a French made Cobra helicopter Cleary indicates that the gov. of Mexico has their hands full with el Mencho and the Cuinis.

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    1. cjng patadas de ahogados.

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    2. i thought it was a Cougar type helicopter?

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    3. I don't believe the CJNG can out last the Mexican military no matter how much training their sicarios have. When the Marina gets the call it might be game over for the main capos of CJNG.

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    4. Bien dicho compa los de Jalisco no se compara con los Z, traen a pura gente entrenada y con experencia en armas.Se dice que el CJNG tiene a varios ex Gafes y Marinos tienen un escuadrón tipo como los primeros Z.

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  8. It was RPGs most likely, cjng do have connections in Europe and Asia. I feel bad for the corrupt mexican government. They got fuck real good like grand tourismo San Andreas. You can't pull this shit in US. Killing polices and military like nothing. Very little resistance coming from the mexican government and on top of that the regular citizens can not own a gun. Helpless people. Only criminals and police got guns and polices are nowhere to be found when shit happens.

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  9. I remember reading and hearing reports that said the CDS was trying to buy Stingers so honestly I wouldn't be surprised if cjng did

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  10. I think we all know what happened to the missing soldiers.. They were tortured to death... No one wants to admit it but we all know it is true...

    R.I.P.

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  11. Hell yeah fuck the militares!!!!

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  12. I said after the 15 dead police a few weeks ago that El Mencho would be taken down and CJNG dismantled.
    Either El Mencho defeats the State and then is the State or he operates within the States SOP.
    He has crossed the States red lines and will feel pain!

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    1. He's going down maybe not anytime soon but he is.

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  13. A black-market stinger costs more than 400, 000 pesos. An RPG costs 60, 000 and is far and away more powerful. I do not believe stories of sicarios with stinger missiles. Someone is searching the internet and conjuring a 2+2 and coming up with 444,444

    Any FARC selling A blood-treasured surface to air missile would become alimento para las cerdos. "Oh we sold a spare A Bomb to CJNG" Get Real...

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    1. if these scum had stingers and manpads they would automatically be labeled by the international community as terrorists and would be dealt with in a coalition of sorts. very highly doubtful and doubtful the stinger and manpad BS. rpg's yes anti aircraft launchers hell NO.

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    2. You are correct sir. Especially since the stinger would have blown the entire helicopter up and the soldiers would have been nothing but ashes. If the Somalis can afford RPG's then it would be more likely the CJNG could get their hands on a few.

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    3. Agreed with both of you people
      No way in hell the have man pads
      Stingers yes I don't believe they shot 6 or 9 stingers maybe two they would not travel with more than two or three no way it worked well for them this time next time it may be a Blackhawks and when that bird starts raining lead they won't have a chance to pull out the stingers they will be busy shitting their pants and being turned to Swiss cheese and blood splats

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  14. you let the dog outMay 5, 2015 at 8:28 AM

    ....on the ground in PV, the operation Jalisco dudes are still here, camped out at a medium priced hotel, just at the end of our street....saw them return this am just after 8, and figured it was the night shift patrol heading in to catch some zees....they have been here since about 10 days before Friday.....word on the street is they had Mencho somewhere in the state , but he faked an appendicitis attack then was able to get away....$$$$$?...on Friday while a lot of businesses were already closed for the holiday, others closed later in the afternoon, including the biggest real Mexican grocery store in town and all gas stations in town.....the fire bombings mostly happened in what I would call the outskirts of the city and not right in actual downtown...roads were blocked by federals into and out of the city on Friday aft but were back open by Friday eve..(a friends son was heading to Mismaloya to go to work and was not allowed to pass on Friday....dudes all in black are still staying down the street, and people are pretty much going about their bidness as usual

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    1. Good info
      That's what we have seen as well

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    2. Arriva Tizapan =CJNG=

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  15. It was most likelly an rpg all the cartel have them

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  16. Tequila is going to up in price here in the States cause of all this action in Jalisco. Stop the violence we love tequila too.

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  17. who ever shot down the helicopter knew exactly the best place to hit it and disable it, the Tail rotor, with out it it spins outta control , the Cougar Type is not made for combat more for search and rescue and personnel carrier, so it was not there to fight .

    It was either an extremely lucky shot with an RPG ,but i seriously think it was more of a sniper shot with a very accurate and high powered, high caliber rifle and a well trained sniper, and the helicopter had to be in a very low altitude hoovering, like drooping troops on the ground wen it got hit, I seriously doubt it got hit wen it was in full flight, the only way to bring down an aircraft in full flight is a ManPad or SAM system

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  18. All this violence Sux for the people out there but I don't feel bad for the soldiers!! If you know mexico you know these soldiers are sons of bitches themselves even worse then some of the cartel members!!

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    1. Finally someone that actually says something that is true not like these other people who run there cock holster

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  19. Damn, if that's all it would take..by all means,please send him in!.Although, it is ONLY one Alfredo Castillo, it is plenty more, who are like him. Expect to hear..how violence and unrest, has been replaced with peace and security. If they can't make it happen they'll claim they did!

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  20. I know off topic but any one knows what's going on in sonoyta Sonora ?????

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    1. Gente nueva vs los emes...🔫🔫🔫

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  21. pussy white soldiers wont go into mexico

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    1. Lol says the poster hiding behind a keyboard.

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    2. 1.48
      Who's the pussy talking race shit anonymously on BB.Little man..

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    3. Hey pendejo if you get your head out of your ass you would realize that USA military are not all white and I guarantee they would a way better job than those corrupted chumps in mexico

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      Most of the Officers in the Mexican Army are white, idiot.

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  22. If u know where they all are staying why isn't the hotel bombed.

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  23. @7:23 a.m we wont come to mexico if youll do something about the thousands that are pouring over our border every week!! How bout u go home then!

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    1. You do know the US is made up of pure immigrants so shut up stupid.

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    2. Yeah but the sign on the southern border says "closed for business-at full capacity".

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  24. I would not mind for the U.S to be more involved in cartel operations in mexico but I feel like the Mexican government thinks they are being invaded if they did that. Which in my opinion is stupid. Mexico obviously needs help with the 100,000+ dead

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  25. Well if anything is impressive is that these narcos actually used their weapons and not just took selfies with them. So sick and tired about how they have this and that get caught with big guns and never shoot them. Why carry all that crap and brag about it if wen u need to use it u give urself up like a pu••y

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  26. I wound how the US government will try and say that somehow these weapons were supplied by gun store's so they can push their gun control bullshit a little further? Maybe these assholes in DC and Mexico need to quit spreading their lies and actually do something that helps people instead of running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Just to bad they used them on soldiers just doing their duty, it's sad when soldiers die in the states name when that state deserves nothing, but maybe the end of the rope that is swings after being tied up in a tree. RIP to all those who've died for the corrupted political assholes around the world.

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    1. It's not the US federal government it's the the state government that has created the biggest gun control threat to individual citizens. In Texas we have free reign when it comes to firearms with only sound suppression, SBR's and fully automatic weapons being the exceptions. But even then all you have to do is pay a fee for a tax stamp and fill out some paperwork. There hasn't been any gun laws enacted by the Feds that would take any of my guns from my household. The same guns I had with the Bush administration I have with the Obama administration. When Hiliary is elected in 2016 that's when everyone should actually get worried.

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  27. Question. Why do white people think they come from Indian descent? 1/4 Cherokee and so on.

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    1. Because it is fashionable, women try to experience some of that kickapoo twist, and it alleviates the guilt about having killed almost all the Indian population of the NorthAmerica, even if it was unvoluntarily because of the European epidemics the European civilization brought along with their bibles, their crosses and their swords...
      --talk about lousy sick and greedy people...remember where we all come from...

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  28. Well I live here in Jalisco and what I could let you guy's know is that they used an RPG-29 same used by the Mexican military this means they are sneaking weapons out of the military bases.

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    1. I sure would not discount that

      Government arms theft raids happens on a regular basis, in the north

      But in those cases trucks are stolen, and used for the robbery, "sneaking " them out is unnecessary. A couple years back in Juarez there is a foto of a cache of government forces weapons found when capturing someone. there was a RPG29 among the weapons found.

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    2. So you are saying not all the weapons are coming from the US? The Mexican military are supplying the Narcos with weapons too. Damn, finally someone seeing the light and placing some responsibility on Mexico.

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    3. 9:22 maybe you can now release your panties on a bunch up your ass...
      I don't think so, the bulk of the weapons used against in defense peoples on the world come from civilized and greedy weapons manufacturers and merchants, many of them americans...
      --Do not compare one or many incidents of criminal behaviour for a fistful of pesos, with a way of life that is all criminal since forever for inmeasurable billions of dollars...

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