Thursday, April 9, 2015

PAN and PRI Legislators approve foreign nationals to carry weapons in Mexico

Translated by Otis B Fly-Wheel for Borderland Beat from a Proceso article

An American agent in Huitzilac, Morelos after an attack in August of 2012 see link to Chivis article on this incident

Jenaro Villamil and Eduardo Miranda

With only two votes, the majority of legislators of PAN and the PRI approved reforms to the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives, to permit agents of customs and immigration from other countries and especially the United States to carry weapons in the country.

During the brief debate in commission, the Senators Alejandro Encinas and Manuel Bartlett argued against the amendments highlighting the lack of reciprocity in American Law and the risks to nationals.

"Its a submission to US interests which we are seeing here, its really ridiculous to hear these arguments and see this initiative, that in reality is about nothing". " There is no justification for arms, not one", accused Bartlett.





The PT Legislator insists that the reform is a requirement of the United States, and it is absurd not to openly discuss the issue, but we invent tourism and business that is going until the last.

In turn Senator Alejandro Encinas said that a reform of this nature will bring problems in its implementation with the area of local legislation. He mentioned the case of the Maricopa Sheriff, United States, of the existence of the Border Patrol opening fire on Mexican's or groups of hunters of migrants among others.

"Personally I think these modifications won't benefit tourism or trade, and to have customs and immigration agents of another country operating in national territory, regardless of whether their weapons leave the immigration of customs enclosures that they are operating", explained Encinas.

In defence of the reforms, the Pan Senator Hector Larios said that its not only for the United States, and yes in that country there is no reciprocity",  then we cannot apply to them". He insisted that article 28, the need for reciprocity is explicit.

The he defended the reforms, stating that "its absolutely relevant" especially in Migration and customs inspections. Weapons will be carried exclusively in the work place, and is not applicable to Mexican's, it is to check anyone who will board a plane in the case of an airport, to a destination in another country so that the immigration process is taken care of before you reach that country, argued Larios.

According to the Pan Legislator, this will benefit in an important manner the flow of passengers.

Cristina Diaz of the PRI, President of the Government Commission, cites Sedena to insist that it will be a "temporary possession of weapons", provided there is reciprocity. Permits will last six months and these foreign agents may only carry weapons used in their country of origin.

Diaz said that this reform is only for "accredited customs and immigration agents", and extends this right to diplomatic agents, so there is no risk that can distort the sense of initiative.

Original article in Spanish at Proceso

53 comments:

  1. Otis BF-W: Thank you so much for your reporting. You have the jewelers eye for the unvarnished truth. While not on point, physicist Dick Post just passed at age 96. A truly amazing inventor/scientist and "father of the modern flywheel." K. Onda

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    1. We don care about no bug freak..

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  2. Thats some dumb shit...you give them an arm they take whole body...watch in less then a year they are gana want to have the control of everything ...

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    1. STFU Idiot. If mexicants aren't able to put order in their own shits. Then some one else must do it. Unless some bitches want their world to turn into hell.

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    2. 5:04 you are.the idiot, American military or paramilitary come to reinforce the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia, to keep stealing from the mexicans, AND they get paid about 300.00 dollars a day, maybe more.
      --Compare that with the pay of mexican military or police and get wise estupiro...
      There is no way mexico can pay better their officers, but they do pay better foreigners, and foreigners do not pay piso, mordidas or kickback to their commanders, they don't have to pay for their cachucha or exact mordidas...

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  3. Interesting road.

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  4. BULLSHIT, OF COURSE...
    --this is to open the floodgates to private security guards to protect those mining mexico for mirrors and firewater.
    --yet, politicians insist that oil still belongs to mexico, while all the expenses get charged to the mexicans in general who get IVAed up the ass for it, and all the profits go to foreigners, by law.
    --same with mining and agriculture, tourism and water, wind also belongs to foreign companies, kids for pederastas, and prostitutes, los nopales y los magueyes, mexican go home to guatemala or further down south...
    --mexican are free to go to SWITZERLAND, BUY CHALETS ON THE ALPS with garages for 4 or 5 ferrari like international mocospolitan playboy indian son of governor Mario Marin, PRI...

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    1. Gosh dang Millie give it a rest please!!

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    2. No way jose, as long as it gets posted... what you can do is...refute, rebuke, get smart, google, educate yerself, learn to debate, grow up or just GFYRSELF...
      --You will find more of youse's than your feeble mind spinnin' there...
      Relax, enjoy...

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    3. the Billionaires in Mexico need security

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  5. Hell yeah the gloves are coming off!!!!

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  6. Where can an American police officer obtain a permit to carry a weapon in Mexico!

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    1. What you are going to need is: take more officers with you Glenn boy...
      One gun may not be enough to save your ass...much less "the permit"

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  7. i'd actually consider going to mexico if I could bring a weapon to protect myself. I live in la and haven't been there in years because of the violence and insane laws.

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  8. So Mexican citizens cant carry guns in Mexico for protection, but U.S Citizens can carry in Mexico? wow.. new low for Mexico. So Mireles can be in jail because was "carrying" a rifle for protection, but again, U.S pigs can carry in Mexico? Wow, Seriously. Wow.

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    1. "Wow" "wow" "wow" "wow"

      STFU dude.

      These "pigs" have saved lives and are all not "pigs" so stop generalizing.

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    2. These pigs are more famous for taking innocent lives, for militarization, to stick it to the public, and for murdering black and mexican unarmed people than for saving anyone...there are police officers that are heros, but the most of them are no such, just opportunists that make very good pay...for political favours...mostly...

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    3. 2:21 Those are people that know what they do. Those are not changos with guns that will shoot you, just because you don't give them a banana, or just because you mention their mother. Get it? .. Thanks to some "pigs" you can be at home not worrying about getting your head chopped off. Indio ignorante??

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    4. Ha Ha I am a pig and I can carry Ha Ha

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    5. Hahaahaaa, I am no pig and I carry, hahahaaa

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    6. 5:22pm You calling someone an "Indio ignorante" makes you the ignorant one. Why are "indios" ignorantes? Pinche pendejo, benito Juarez was an Indio and look at what he did for mexico. Mayans, aztec, native Americans were all "indios" and some of them very smart you fool.

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  9. Mexicos ppl are barred from having weapons, but its okay for foreigns to carry. What a load of bs. I hope the mexican ppl open their eyes soon and revolt against the injustices they've dealt with.

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  10. This is opening the door for Blackwater Security to engage in full combat against the cartels. At least some politicians are opening their eyes. Ex special ops and CIA boys can take out their frustrations by exterminating scum cartel posers. No sovereignty issues now.

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    1. If I am not mistaken security officers of private companies can carry a gun now. So I don't think this was done to facilitate "ex special ops and CIA boys" to take out their frustrations by "exterminating scum cartel posers". A likely outcome of their "taking out their frustrations" will be incidents of killing innocent civilians like in Iraq when they raced through a town square with their weapons on rapid fire. If that happens they might have to change their name again like they did after killing the innocent civilians in Iraq. But you can be sure that they will have immunity from prosecution of any crime as they did in Iraq.

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    2. Don't forget about the badasses Academi. Soldiers of fortune, I mean private security. LOL Just like the US Department of Defense has stated before with Mexico "that the transition of control to private contractors will allow them to get away with what US military forces are not allowed or not encouraged to do.”

      EPN agreed 2 years ago with the DoD and now it is being made possible and a reality. Quite correct in what you say to about sovereignty, this will no longer be an issue.

      But after the private contractors eradicate the cartels no doubt they will take over the market. A never ending cycle.

      Private mercenaries.

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    3. don't believe all were innocent but I see you are a liberal. You can bet the last dollar Academi will be in full force in Mexico. The Dept of Defense allotted over $560 million last year for covert training in Latin America, namely Mexico and Colombia were named. That is for equipment and training and it is US taxpayer money. A few years back Nieto and the US govt agreed that special private security companies would and can assist in the future. I see the future is now.

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    4. DD you surprise me, I thought you was one of them, salutes!
      Mexican governing narco-mierdocracia must be feeling the hate, I mean the heat, and the US gov must be soo happy to oblige, they must have the budget ready for benefit of "academy" black water republican assets and friends of republikkkan congress and nazi ukrainians to help...
      Mexican go home to guatemala or further down south...!

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    5. Remenber this is to help and protect the politicos, remember they could careless about the poor and middle class Mexican. and all the innocent people who have been killed

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  11. Mexican people HAVE HAD A LAW ONGOING FOR 30-YEARS+ that allows Ciudadanos to LEGALLY POSSESS a firearm of .30 caliber or less.

    Anyone who thinks a firearm will protect them down here is a fool. A sicario listens to chisme. He waits until you step out your door then Bang! He goes into your house takes the gun, and anything else he wants. Some of you have no idea what an arma de fuego sells for down here. The only solution is total reform of the justice system and tar and feather 70% of government ladrones.

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    1. Or the homeowner blows the sicarios head off and takes HIS gun

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    2. the Gangs Rule, I know they cleaned me out, nothing left in the house. So burned the house, now no one can use it. Sorry zetas u no place to stay

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    3. I am sure the locals know who the sicarios live in the town .Why not kill them as they sleep ,rather than hide under the bed ,waiting to die .Why is Dr Mierles still in jail.? Where are the protests ? Just the useless teachers protesting everything ,instead of working.

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  12. This is how you got damn well know dea cia fbi are the ones make by the captures mexico betrayed them!!!!they bit of the hand that fed them and now mexico is in the trash

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  13. The arguments given in the Mx. Congress for the passage of this law is that it is only intended to expedite flow of traffic across the border by allowing US agents to begin their work in checking out crossers while still in Mexican territory.

    But La Journal in an editorial on March 7 had a different take. It said that the law was not necessary for its stated purpose because
    "ICE, the DEA, the CIA, the Pentagon, the FBI, ATF and other intelligence services have for years been operating covertly and armed in our country. Recently, a former agent of the CIA estimated the number of covert U.S. agents in Mexico to be 25,000. Just last November, The Wall Street Journal revealed that agents from the U.S. Department of Justice Marshals Service, armed and disguised as members of Mexican Navy Department and supported by DEA and FBI agents, participated at least four times a year in counternarcotics operations on Mexican territory. According to WSJ, undercover U.S. agents participated in the capture of Joaquín El Chapo Guzmán, and a marshal was wounded in Sinaloa last July during an operation against the Beltrán Leyva Cartel. Rescued by a member of the Navy, he was transported to Culiacán and then to Texas."

    La Journal further said that the real "intention is to allow U.S. agents to review the documentation and consult databases on the movement of passengers at the international ports and airports of Mexico and control and monitor the flow of exported and imported goods at Mexican customs offices."

    I'll leave it to you to decide the motive of the US wanting to "MONITOR AND CONTROL" imported goods and goods for export at Mexican customs offices. It could be to help stop the flow of drugs into US or it could be a great asset to programs carried out in the past like Iran/Contra and Mena Arkansas.

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    1. DD, the USA just wants their fair cut http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-marshals-service-personnel-dressed-as-mexican-marines-pursue-drug-cartel-bosses-1416595305

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    2. North American Union

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    3. Is obviously about drugs, everybody knows how corrupt mexicants are.. drug cartels got people infiltrated in airports too. So they need some body to make their drug traficking harder at least.

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  14. US Federal Agents have covertly been involved in the fight against drugs in Mexico since the 1960's. It shouldn't surprise anyone that in 2015 US Agents will now be in full uniform, with duty weapons and in full view of the Mexican public on Mexican soil. It's clear the Mexican government fears the monster the cartels have become more than the US government agencies being armed in Mexico. It's also clear the role of these agents will be pretty limited but who knows what the future will bring. US republicans and conspiracy theorists have been in a frenzy lately since there will be "alledged" military exercises in US border states. These exercises will be conducted by special force units in strategic areas of Arizona, New Mexico, California and Texas. Some units will train on using conventional military tactics and other will work on covert exercises where soldiers will blend in with the citizens. Obviously these conspiracy theorists believe it is to disarm the more conservative states and take our guns but I think something different is going on. I believe it is to train for full fledge open war against the cartels. The training is suppose to start in July of this year and it's suppose to last a couple of weeks. Who knows whether it is a truthful rumor or just scare tactics created by conservatives to start an early smear campaign against the liberals for the upcoming election in 2016. If it is true what is the US Government actually preparing for? Martial law or war against the cartels. Only time will tell.

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  15. Its about time. At least the other agents will shoot the cartel to defend themselves

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    1. You damn right!

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    2. It is like, the drug cartels never worried the US or the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia, they are all on the same side...
      --Now that the people refuses to forgive and forget the murders and disappearances the governing mexican narco-mierdocracia and their sicarios have been doing, the US comes to their help, against the mexican people...
      TO SAVE PEÑA NIETO AND HIS BUTCHERS ARSES, which makes the US their partner in crime...

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  16. I would wear a suicide vest like them jihadis do! Strapped to the gills! Come for me and we all go up like a bag of popcorn lol!

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  17. This is horrible what happens if the Mx Gov gives the Mexcian people right to bear arms. Than the Mx gov will have a problems.The people may over throw the present gov.

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  18. we will see, hopefully the average Mexican buy a gun. this would stop the kidnapping, I would least be able to fight back, because they have u , u r not coming back a alive. Rather die fighting, Now just have to submit to their abuse, and prepare to DIE> I never, Never, Never, give up, u bastards will kill me

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  19. Operation "Jade Helm" is coming. Green Berets, Navy Seals, Air Force and Marine Corp special forces command training for a possible guerilla war on the southern border. You heard it here first.

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  20. Ora Si pinches cartels de mierda agarense, ora Si aver que tangos huevitos traen

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    1. Ya se van a empesar a correr acia el sur... Lol

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  21. Some might misunderstand ... My translation of this is The 2011 incident in S.L.P.
    R.I.P. Agent Jaime Zapata . He and his partner were unarmed.
    Unable to protect themselves.

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  22. Narco senators? ... Alejandro Encinas and Manuel Barlett working in favor of the fat rats? many many more like them all over mx...

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    1. When is "fats rats" everything is included. Including the ones in the govt. and in the streets aka capos, narcos, thugs, goons, etc. etc.

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  23. Mexicos politicians are a joke aside from malinches. While these guys favor los gabachos to carry guns and run around like they own the place. el pueblo mexicano is forbidden to defend itself n have to do so with makeshift weapons this is pathetic. Donde estan esos pinches generales fieles a la patria mexicana!? Me da tristesa desirlo pero mexico es una estrella mas en la bandera americana. Ojala se den un topon estos pinches gabachitos con malandros. En una bolsa de sopa se los mandan para tras al usa

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  24. Finally! Ridiculous that U.S. agents were not allowed to carry guns. Personally, and I KNOW I speak for the majority of Americans~ I believe we should close our Southern border completely. Post military every 50 ft.
    Our soldiers should be protecting OUR borders not stationed in some other ungrateful country fighting their f*@#n wars. The steady influx of illegals has sucked our country's resources dry. Send ALL illegals AND any others that are not third generation mexican-american back where they came from.Mexico does not allow us who are not third generation mexican to buy property there, why should we let them do it here? And for the love of mike can we stop supporting them with welfare, food stamps, free education, free medical services?!!!!

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