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MEXICO CITY: 2 Ambushed in Mexico City Are CIA Agents

Wednesday, August 29, 2012 |

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9.1.12 UPDATE AT BOTTOM
The SUV's Level Seven Armour Saved the lives of the Three Wounded Men
Reforma reports that officials close to the case reported the shooting of a an SUV with diplomatic plates and U.S. officials by Mexican federal police agents have confirmed that the two Americans shot were, in fact, CIA agents. They were apparently on their way to give shooting lessons to members of the Mexican military. They were also, apparently, initially attacked by civilians in a Dodge Van…12 Mexican officers were ordered held for at least 40 days while investigators sort out what the embassy called an “ambush.”
CIA
American agents who were shot last Friday, along with a Captain of the Marina of Mexico, as they headed to the shooting range and  Marines Infantry  training field located Xalatlaco area, belong to the Central Intelligence Agency ( CIA, for its acronym in English), confirmed official sources close to the investigation, which added that the attack took place after the attackers were in close view of the diplomatic vehicle occupants.
According to the obtained information by this newspaper, the aggression against the American agents and of the marine was direct and the fact that there were no fatal victims, it was because the Toyota SUV they were travelling in was amour  grade 7 ( highest level).
The reports given the same day of the incident, which occurred near Tres Marias, Morelos, the U.S. embassy reported that it had been an ambush , while the Federal Police said it had been a confusion .
Interception
The information from the Attorney General's Office (PGR) said that the CIA agents who were to  conduct follow up shooting courses at the Marine Corps Training Field. As they traveled in the stretch of dirt known as El Capulin, in Xalatlaco, Mexico State, they encountered  a Dodge Van with several heavily armed civilians who, at gunpoint, forced them to stop.
While not aiming their weapons, two of them approached the Toyota. , Suddenly, the driver of the U.S. embassy vehicle abruptly threw the vehicle in reverse while turning it around then sped to the federal highway with the gunmen shooting at the vehicle in full pursuit.  
The pursuit grows
During the pursuit a second vehicle, a Sentra,  appeared attempting to block the embassy vehicle, while four gumen in the Sentra opened fire  with heavy artillery.
During the chase, and with two vehicles in pursuit, they passed through a village near a junction, where eight plainclothes men in two vehicles, joined the Toyota aggression and also began firing weapons.
Now chased  by four cars, and U.S. agents tried to signal Marines at a gas station,  but after failing the pursuit continued.  When reaching the junction there awaited a fifth vehicle, that joined the chase and also began shooting.
Once in the federal highway, because of the impact damage,  the Toyota was immobilized and yet still sustaining  shots of high-caliber weapons.  One of the assailants with an  AK-47  (cuerno de chivo/goat horn) blasted the armored diplomatic vehicle.  It was during the attack with the AK47  when U.S. agents were injured,  they were in the front seats and the Marina officer in the rear.
The informant added that directly after the shooting ceased  three Federal Police vehicles arrived at the scene.
Federal agents got out of their patrol cars with weapons drawn. One of them approached the Toyota and was when officers identified themselves as U.S. diplomats.
 
Fourteen federal officers involved in the attack have been detained and transfered to a Mexico City prison for a 40 day hold, until the investigation can clarify exactly what occurred.  In the photo above families of the officers involved are protesting this action.

Sources: La Jornada & Reforma 

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Anonymous said...

Hahahahaha,run rabbits run!!!! Seriously though that would of being scary for the Trio especially as they were unarmed and could not return fire in defense.If the Fed-police were under order for ambush then it should be quite easy too cover up (for the diplomatic car should never have driven off).But then they probably would of gotten slaughtered from the plainclothed"fed-police"

Anonymous said...

Shooting at CIA ...someone is gonna pay big time

Anonymous said...

So the attackers were assisted by Federal Police.
Rule of Law in Mexico is toast.
Federal Police working for Cartel? yup...
I love Mexico from 1977-2007, not since.
What a tragedy.

Anonymous said...

El mencho was not capture!

Anonymous said...

Is the CIA there to train their military or a cartel... Hmm. Guess we'll never know since the US hasn't acknowledged any involvement whatsoever

Anonymous said...

That was a tense situation . What cartels operate in the area?

Anonymous said...

Buela, how reliable is the information about them being from the CIA?

Anonymous said...

Why should the families protest ..... They are married to crooks in uniform ... Time to pay the piper !

Anonymous said...

In reply to August 29, 2012 9:12 PM - The CIA might be training the military, but I'm willing to be they are inadvertently training the cartels as well.

Anonymous said...

How are the marines. At the gas station not gonna notice a chase with over 10 people shooting at one suv even the marines are dirty Mexico is hopeless no one can save Mexico

Anonymous said...

A mailbox tied to one of the names used by one of the agents I'd also linked to CIA rendition flights, source:Reddit

Anonymous said...

The United States is so stupid...all they really have to do is secure the border and enforce immigration laws. Now they are sending CIA dudes to Mexico...gee I wonder why.

Anonymous said...

I agree, But not all of them just most of them.

Anonymous said...

cia vs cds karma

Anonymous said...

Oliver North was seen stashing the drugs before the shooting

Anonymous said...

@9:12 Remnants of BLO,and just about every other cartel has a Cell in Mexico City,i think.

Anonymous said...

BLO I think

Anonymous said...

That's exactly what I'm thinkin'

Anonymous said...

what the hell does that have to do with this post?... ignorant.

Anonymous said...

I guarantee that they will find the shooters buy the end of this month or next month

Anonymous said...

That's what you think?

Anonymous said...

I read in another blog that they where going for EL H the last of the Beltran Leyva brothers that's free

Anonymous said...

The cia works very hard to keep northern monied interests in the drug/weapon/cheap labor markets. Blood and chaos and contraband, its an age old profit cow. Thats why its weird to see people express shock in cartel violence when their heros are knee deep in blood.

Anonymous said...

It really doesn't matter, they just further shot themselves in the foot, that's was just stupid to go after 2 incidental nobodies that carry the weight of the most powerful nation,
Carry on fools.

Anonymous said...

They know that but need the extra money they make, I'm sure crooks will let them go as soon as the heat dies down.

Anonymous said...

Something dont sound right but this could get mexico fucked off they aint rdy for our army usa wins everytime!

Anonymous said...

I had to laugh reading this story. It looked like everyone wanted a piece of those fools. Maybe the CIA is training the wrong cartel.

Anonymous said...

why would the CIA be training the mexican military to shoot??? but idk i just think it would be some sort of US military like navy seal or Marine. I think since its CIA they were there to share and gather intelligence to get somebody in Mexico City and since the police are on the cartel payroll too they work as halcones. they must have notified the cartels and informed them. Mexico needs an American invasion. ill volunteer to go down there and kick some corrupt cop and cartel ass!!!

Anonymous said...

I agree, one of these federales is gonna spill the beans.

Anonymous said...

All you fools are either trying to blame Mexico officials or trying.to put a blind eye.
First of all the cia is not a clean agency ,there has been reports of cia.planes being eithe shot down, or failed and crashed to be found.with tons of drugs inside barely heard of right ,well it has happened..second they've done covert operations to destabilize governments,by first making.them.have a huge debt,follow by mercenaries cause mayhem all over the country ,bring in human rights,un,and such. Qualify a country as a failed state. Followed by intervention. Does this sound familiar ?
Now Mexicans are not stupid they understand the risk of shooting at American officials as they are priority in Mexico ,unless those people are on the payroll of some one else. One of these case was DEA agent Kiki cabrera he was a agent but also a traffickers. 3. Biggest traffickers in history wasn't ,chapo,wasn't escobar. It was a CIA agent. Search all the info I've given. Nothing out of the ordinary just pure facts. Now Mexico it is corrupt yes it is. I knowbit I've live it and is not good ,but is not just Mexico fault of officials fault. Its both countries fault .
One Puts the addicts and the weapons.
Mexico puts the bodies. And the drugs.
Oh ps;by the way corruption in the states is higher then Mexico. Is just thehknkw how to hide it . In Mexico Is called corruption,in the united states is called lobbying.
Education people would stop atrocities as such. Not only in Mexico but world wide. Our foreign policy is fucking up countries ,killing people and have blowback hits.

Anonymous said...

Very bad mistake especially shooting CIA. playing a dangerous game shooting USA govt officials. A military task force going to Mexico is getting closer. Currently, the nation who's president (Guatemala) said that we are going to legalize drugs, F#$K America was all talk. 200 US Marines on Zeta and cartel hunter teams are working inside Guatemala with 4 Hueys and all the firepower they can muster. Only a matter of time we are into Mexico no matter what those corrupt govt officials say. Understand too that the DEA and CIA have "hit" squads inside cleaning up Guatemala with the full cooperation and 100 percent support from their govt now as we speak. USA has a lead foot, we go where we want when we want. Chapo's and Z leadership should hopefully be in the news soon as the new addition to McDonald's menu Beaner Burgers on the dollar or peso value menu. You screw with the wrong people (America) you signed your own death warrant!

Anonymous said...

Soy gringo soy gringo..ayudar ayudar.....The US is stupid. Heads should roll for this. They want our help and money, but we lose lives and for what?

Anonymous said...

Cia training military in mexico? ya valio madre...military means cartel enforcement arm..

Anonymous said...

I'm thinking either the Marine was an informant and they got made or the Zetas going after El Chapo's handlers. If you really want to speculate maybe El Chapo launched a preemptive strike against his former masters before they could turn on him.

Anonymous said...

TO: 11:35 P.M.!! Fool, they allready have the shooters... don't you read english and their
wives and kids are protesting in front of the
PGR building because nobody dares bring them
monies until their people are either let out of
Jail or murdered by their bosses for gettin caught! Mexico is such a swill hole!! As far as
being CIA more like Ex Cia under private contract and who says they were unarmed..?? They were under armed (Glock 9's)but definately
armed.

Anonymous said...

"In matters of foreign affairs, my country may she ever be right, but right or wrong, my country, my country." Lt. Stephen Decatur

adding cia to mexico is like adding salt water crocs to shark infested waters.

i oppose sending troops just because cia were attacked.

j said...

Just an observation...I have been to Mexico several times and traveled there a bit. I have been through a lot of checkpoints: military, federal, and state police. I grew up in a military family and tend to notice weapons. I have never seen an AK. It is almost as if they did not want the weapon to be traced back to them, which would be odd for a fed on a legitimate mission.

Anonymous said...

Now the USA will send SEALS & PENGUINS to Mexico..If they dont succeed then Captain American & The Avengers will be sent to Mexico..Yeah, yeah big B.S talk by some stupid Americans.

Anonymous said...

Gotta love the story the yanks came up with. "Two CIA officers in Mexico to give shooting lessons." Hah!! Shooting lessons really??? Like the Cia sends officers abroad for "shooting lessons." Do they think were that stupid? Why would Cia of all agencies teach the Mexican infantry how to fire weapons.? Thats not what the Cia does...Lol Hillarious really, they were clearly there for other reasons and were targeted. Probably not Cia, most likely DEA being escorted out of area.

Anonymous said...

c.i.a was probably with chapo in the car.LOL

Anonymous said...

Mexico will say once again that it was a case of mistaken identity. That the 14 plain-clothed Federal Officers were under-cover and trailing a Toyota SUV similar to the one the Marine and CIA agents were driving. That is why the confusion. The 14 corrupt Federal Officers will be set free.

At least the CIA got to see where their trainees need improvement. And for the Marines that didn't join the pursuit, latrine duty.

Anonymous said...

Very good work...now we have the green light to pick off any of you motherf.....s

Anonymous said...

USA wins everytime?? Except Korea, Vietnam and Afganistan.

El Norteno

Anonymous said...

Because we have to teach your ignorant corrupt soldiers how to shoot idiot!

Anonymous said...

"Now the USA will send SEALS & PENGUINS to Mexico..If they dont succeed then Captain American & The Avengers will be sent to Mexico..Yeah, yeah big B.S talk by some stupid Americans"
Fuckin hope not,why do we want to go to Mexico?
What for?There is no problem in Mexico,just every other country has problems.US STAY OUT.

Anonymous said...

They already know how to shoot. They just don't shoot until whatever cartel is paying them tells them to shoot.

Anonymous said...

PARA LA OTRA NO VAN A SALIR TAN SUERTUDOS. PINCHES GRINGOS SIN HUEVOS CORRIENDO COMO VIEJAS.

Anonymous said...

USA should stay away from any country. USA is the reason the whole world is fucked up.

Anonymous said...

i think they did a good job shooting. if they were here to train them i think the results are in

Anonymous said...

CIA traveling in a toyota to a shooting range with the captain of the Marina?? If it was, or if it wasnt CIA... these guys were not there just to go to a "shooting range" and the 5 cars that chased them were not real federales. if they tried waving down the marina that was at the gas station dont you think they would of communicated via 2-way radios, Im sure a 7-level armored vehicle has some pretty suffisticated shit inside. and if 3 important people like CIA AND THE MARINA CAPTAIN were traveling by road. DONT YOU THINK THEY WOULD OF HAD A TRAIL OF BODY GUARDS FOLLOWING??? WAKE UP IDIOTS, THESE GUYS ARE MAFIA!

Miguel Valencia said...

holy guacamole , that was one a heck of a trainning , at least they survived , the first test , this is like a telenovela , i wonder witch cartel did the cia pisst off , hopefully they where clean IoI , or hopefully the cia agents didnt joint the dark side . go figure now its going to get interesting , good luck guys , ill be here reading of the next episode

Anonymous said...

For all you goof balls out there that think we are down there to play, live in a different world. We are down there to help stop the flow of drugs because Mx government can't or won't.

Anonymous said...

It was a cordinated assault/ambush by Los Zetas.

Anonymous said...

While your down there trying to stop the drug flow.. stop all the guns entering Mexico from the US.. You jackass... cause the US can't or won't stop the guns from going into Mexico ... Guess why?? Cause they profit from it... Just like they profit from the cartels... If you don't believe this then your indenial.... Rich goverments don't care if people die, at the end of the day they get there money... US and Mexico both profit from this mess that Mexico is in....

Anonymous said...

Si guey se van a topar con sicarios armados y los gringos sin armas....los sicarios son los que no tienen huevos, balazeando a personas desarmadas...aver que se tiren unos balazos asi contra los militares y marinos...los gringos tienen huevos por andar alli sin armas y rodeadoa de narcos.

Anonymous said...

i read in another website that they believe los zetas were trying to kill the CIA dudes. seriously anything that happens in mex they blame it on the zetas. its known that in Mexico city each cartel has presence their.

http://www.historiasdelnarco.com/2012/08/dicen-autoridades-mexicanas-que-los.html

Anonymous said...

"USA should stay away from any country."

Then build a wall and stay away from us !!

Anonymous said...

The American CIA plays a lot of different roles and the agency has been entrenched in Latin America countries since WW2! So, CIA in Mexico shouldn't be a surprise! Another thing...no intelligence agency is perfect and all intelligence agencies at one time another operate indirectly outside the law. Look at it this way...would you kill one man to save a hundred? Although the concept may be hard for some to grasp the most valuable asset in the world is information! Intel when it comes to national security is worth more than gold! A lot of things that get exposed to the public like botched operations and such...the public/media are only seeing one side they are not getting the big picture! Keep in mind the world in general is a evil/dangerous place because some men are corrupted by power not the welfare of their fellow man...it's up to agencies such as the CIA to ensure the collateral damage caused by these "evil men" is minimal and those men are eliminated all together!

Anonymous said...

Corrupted or not shooting cia agents cant be good .ask caro quintero and fonseca carillio

Anonymous said...

The US should have their "hit squads" get rid of all the drug addics in their own country... sorry white trash... But think about it, the US needs drugs so they can have mass control... ppl are so brainwashed

Anonymous said...

No seas mamon

Anonymous said...

Como que suertudos pedaso de caca de gallina por que ni a gallina llegas imbecil, esos vatos estan entrenados para eso y como que sin huevos si fueras tu el Iva manejando te fueras desmayado pinche lambe huevos del govierno Mexicano y no corrieron sola mente usaron la cabeza porque estoy mas que suguro que si nomas es una troca se Los meten a Los chotas si tu Crees que esos vatos no train armas arriva de esas camionetas estas bien ecibocado pendejete. Y porque Los Mexicanos le echan la culpa a Los USA de Los pinches problemas de ellos quien les da el dinero a Mexico pos Los gringos pero Los mex ni gracias le Dan a USA le combiene a mex que este USA aya porque asi les quitan helicopteros y armas y dinero. Mas bien dicho Mexico se la mama a USA.

Anonymous said...

Were the CIA officers white guys? They had the Mexican marine as an interpreter? If I were a white guy, I wouldn't even cross the river. I've seen plenty of Mexican-American DEA and Secret Service agents. I would hope we have plenty of Mexican CIA agents.

jthemover said...

They said that one of these names was on the boards of two aircraft companies that were linked to rendition flights. Assuming it was the same agent and that the CIA does not recycle aliases, is the CIA pondering snatch and grabs south of the border?

Anonymous said...

let them go fight in mexico if they'd like. After they get their ass kicked, they will go back home and kill themselves. An average of 18 soldiers a day kill themselves in the USA. want to fight everybody's war but don't have the balls to fight for their lives. COWARDS

Anonymous said...

The U.S Govt sending their pride and joy called the C.I.A. to Mexico,QUE PENDEJOS!!! NO SE METAN EN LO QUE NO LES IMPORTA ESTUPIDOS !!! Fix your "broncas" at home first

Anonymous said...

Ole chaps was the driver while the cia agreed to give shooting lesson cds taught them how to pull a at speeds reverse 180 turn and go with live shooting in part with blo guys. Jajajaja peace Loks

Anonymous said...

"For all you goof balls out there that think we are down there to play, live in a different world. We are down there to help stop the flow of drugs because Mx government can't or won't"
Man,do you think any Mexican wants to hear that the US wants to help?Are you shittin me or what?
They fuckin hate everyone,especially the US and"gringos"The US wants to actually HELP Mexico?
No its got to be a conspiracy to rob Mexican land or oil...US should avoid that place like the plague,we always gonna be the hated"GRINGO"

Anonymous said...

Fck cia juss drop a nuclear bomb in mexico and the u.s.a done end of chaptor

Anonymous said...

The Mexicans posting on here are absolutely loving all this shit.Never mind helping Mexico in any way we can.No,lets hate on the US?No matter what we do,it is always going to be seen in a negative racist way.WE CANNOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO A PEOPLE WHO HATE US,NO MATTER IF OUR INTENTIONS WERE RIGHTEOUS AND HELPFUL.STAY OUT.
It is sad but true,i dont hate the Mexican people at all,i got no agenda,no stereotype,nothing,but the antipathy Mexicans feel to us,is non productive in the extreme.

Anonymous said...

Watch out Private Rambo and a minibus full of his redneck buddies are going to mexico to fix the cartels.
Over 20k murders every year in america. It`s time america fixed its own problems.

Anonymous said...

Why is the US training anybody for anything in Mexico? We're training the fucking bad guys.

Read the comments in any major mexican newspaper, Milenio, Excelsior, Proceso, etc. about this incident. They are all about the pinche gringos and violating mexican soberania. US should pull out of mexico - everybody and everything and let them fucking deal with their fucking problem.

Anonymous said...

Why the fuck are you bible thumpers so fucking ignorant and stupid. The US can NOT and NEVER will controll the drug flow into the states. I keep reading these post of these stupid American sheep with so much pride saying the US needs to send in troops and blah blah. It's so simple it's stupid and you idiots on ur high horse think other wise. AS LONG AS THERE IS DEMAND THERE WILL I REPEAT WILL BE SUPPLY. If by miracle Mexico just stoped what they are doing our Canadian friends would become the new suppliers. It's just common sense people. Wake the F up people I am an American born and raised I'm no genius but god damn it doesn't take much to realize that the US is the most corrupt gangster run country ever. In Mexico we call the bad guys cartel gangster monsters etc but here in the states we so kindly call them politicians. Drugs will never ever go away we just all need to realize this and accept it. What does need to happen is a plain old treaty big meeting with the whomevers and call a truce and get the ball back on a steady track. CIA is the biggest terrorist group ever. I cry for Mexico I really do I'm so sorry for all thMe bad blood and horrors that are going on there BUT you know I cry more everyday for my fellow ignorant stupid so stupid uncle Sam cock suckers. Americans. It's your fault yes your fault for being so blind and stupid open your fucking minds you TV zombies stop believing everything you see on that propaganda box. Your appointed leaders of your free lol world are the real demons of this world. You are all just expendable slaves. I feel sorry for all of our futures. Education for all is the answer to world peace and prosperity. I could go on and on but on a closing note the drug trade is just another commodity we all need to just accept it just like we trade coffee and other goods drugs is no different the only difference is uncle Sam can't tax it and that is the only only reason there is a fight on the trade. Be smart and stay alive. And for u idiot sheep please do this world a favor And stop reproducing.

Anonymous said...

Why is it it only Mexicans fault for selling drugs, And not just as much Américas fault for buying them? Imagine, Your boss gets caught with a hooker, is it not also his fault, or is solely the hooker's fault? If the American consumer stopped buying, believe me, Mexicans would stop sending them. I don't consume drugs or sleep with hookers, guess what, I don't have hookers or drug dealers beating a path to my door.

Anonymous said...

U S military is taking volunteers for all over the world. Especially Afghanistan and Iraq Mr. Tough Guy!!!!!

Anonymous said...

And I bet you're living here in the good old US of A. Don't like it? Then leave

Anonymous said...

Mexico is worse than Afghanistan, Pakistan and Chicago.
I blame a weak government, period.

Anonymous said...

I live in Mexico,I know whats going on here.Mexico is just trying to take the blame off their backs,I know for a fact that they wanted the two CIA agents dead.Sorry Corrupts your little circus is dropping down.
Oh and guess what all this facts Im giving come from one of the few honest Feds here in Mexico,wich is a close friend.

Anonymous said...

They don't need bodyguards, American government is obviously better trained than Mexican Mafia, good to know because it looks like American goverment will be stepping in and taking the country soon. OR it's a set up, those men weren't ever trying to kill the CIA agents but Americans looking for an excuse. America's always had an "I wish you would" attitude, I bet they're glad they did.Maybe it's not just the oil America wants, but the poteential for better soilders, bigger army. Mexicans are very brave, with proper training, we sure can use them. Not to mention the coveted drug routes.

Anonymous said...

Don't you mean kiki camarena....

Anonymous said...

Vete para tu pinchi blog de naco .. aqui no hay lugar para comentarios pendejos como los tuyos..es lo que hace diferente este sitio de los demas.. y soy mexicano homes ...

_yoshi phumo_

Anonymous said...

if you don't want the cia in your country then how about taking back the 15 million of your people living illegally in our country, most of whom use the benefits of our social welfare system that us evil americans pay for. hell, stop accepting remitences also. our how about we stop every mexican driving a car and extort them for bribes (like what happens to americans down there), oh wait, that's racism. no one makes mexicans sell dope. is it the crack heads fault when the crack dealer gets shot by another crack dealer. he didn't have to sell crack. on top of that, if these idiot cartels just learned how to get along they'd make a bunch more money and there would be a hell of a lot less violence, instead they murder each other and innocents for retarded reasons. you read these stories and it seems like a freaking wrestling plot line. honest to god mexico has all the potential and reasources in the world but as a country acts like some punk teenager that blames their parents for the fact that they're huffing freon. grow the f... up mexico!

Anonymous said...

Someone wanted the CIA killed. And if you really can open your eyes dozens of DEA, CIA and US personel had been killed in Mexico. It is a mess. They just won't make it public. It is a lost war the war on drugs will only be won by education and prevention. With so many American senators, governors, billionaires getting cash from this cow the mayhem will never end.

Anonymous said...

Cia most líkely DEA.The US DEA and CIAshould stay out of Mexico.They cant even complete the mission of capturing or gathering intelligence on Hector Beltran Leyva,much less Chapo,Lascano,Carillo Fuentes

Anonymous said...

HULK SMASH!!!

Anonymous said...

It's funny how you say your country is so big and bad, America can't even fix their own damn problems yet they feel the need to try and fix someone elses, many Americans have been shot and killed in Mexico from citizens to Agents and yet america hasn't done shit? Did you hear about Fast&Furious, they tried to "catch" big time cartel guys and suddenly lost the guns hmmm some of those guns have been found and some have resulted in killing American AGENTS! Your own damn guns kill your own ppl

Anonymous said...

Mistake...but the message is there. People need to leave that stupidity to the side and read analyze understand and look at the big picture

Anonymous said...

guy's of course he was there for shooting lessons but why assume it is for guns?

maybe Mexico getting some mini drones that they carry in backpacks and have camera/explosives in case they want to recon/kamikaze it into the target.

~~~el spaceio~~~

Anonymous said...

"And I bet you're living here in the good old US of A. Don't like it? Then leave"

We are leaving. Every day more and more people renounce their US citizenship and get off this Nazi fascist Titanic. Americans are hated the world over. Seig heil.

Anonymous said...

They did notice but what had happened is that they were on their 15 minute break...

Anonymous said...

technology is a motherf----r . i think its cheating and takes the fun out of war. see your really not a bad motherfu----r if beatup someone with a bat and the other person doesnt have to defend themselves. but anyhow justmy opinion .but heres something to look at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvCUvVkGyqQ

-tyrone-

Anonymous said...

AAmen to this guy

Anonymous said...

I dont live in the USA and dont ever intend to live in that shit debt ridden USA where all the tax paying citizens are slaving their asses to overcome the huge debt that the US of A is in and the rest are dole bludgers..So get off your high horse shitbag.

Anonymous said...

US agents are in many countries to protect US interests from China, north Korea, Iran, Venezuela, Bolivia, Israel, etc.

It's very interesting how many people poke fun at the CIA while professing a profound fear of the agency as well.

Mexicans love to get agitated at the very thought that their sovereignty has been violated by the hated pinche gringos. They do not see or do not want to admit that their country has been destroyed by it's very own people. They do not want to admit that ordinary mexicans are profiting immensely from the drug traffic, robbery, kidnapping, extortion, etc. inflicted on mexicans by mexicans.

So mexicans are sorely offended when their sovereignty is violated but they have not the slightest problem with violating US sovereignty AND DEMANDING ALL THE BENEFITS of US citizens. They do not care that US taxpayers (what's a taxpayer?) are choking on mexican immigrants.

Chivis said...

@ Tyrone...wow, interesting, I had not heard of these little guys.BTW would you pls email me, I would like to ask something privately. on the right here on mainpage t lists the reporters click on my name and use the email button..

@10:00PM the United States has a population of over 311M, average number renunciations per year are around 200. 200 out of a country of 311M

it is correct to say there is an increase, in 2011..to a WHOPPING (jaja) 1700 incl one of the founders of FB. 99% of those that do it, and though it is unlawful to do it for this reason, do it to esccape high taxation in the US. Fed-State-city-sales etc and we are taxed no matter where we live in the world, one of the few countries that do so. You can live abroad for 40 years but each penny you earn, each investment you make in a foreign country is taxed in the US.

Renunciation is for the wealthy. One must already have another citizenship in place or you will become a person without a country.

additionlly, the day you exit you must pay tax on every thing you own, as though liquidating your entire estate and porfolio. You still pay taxes for quite a few years after. and If it is determined you exited to escape taxes but said otherwise you will be taxed with penalties again and could have a bed in federal prison.

My husband is south african, when we married I was able to get dual citizenship in SA but could not have dual in the US, I will never give up my US so i passed. My husband retained his SA but after all these years will be applying for US. He said he always intended to because "it truly is the greatest country in the world" and we have lived in 9 countries.

Bottom line 311M and only 1700 renunced.

US readers, do not judge Mexico's citizens by the comments here in this blog or any blog. It truly does not represent how the majority of Mexicans feel about the US. They love their country and admire the US. Though reluctant to have US boots on the ground, that opinion is also changing, in a poll taken in Mx a month before the election refected that the majority of Mexicans now want US involvement. it is not in the 80 or 90 percentile but a good majority.

Mexicans are very welcoming to the americans that are respectful towards them. And they greatly admire the US. Don't take blog ccomments to heart.....paz, chivis

Anonymous said...

@2:54 You should start your great campaign for "education for all" with yourself. You sir are a troglodyte...a mouth breathing reactionary with no argument.

Anonymous said...

Hahaha... Yeah right. The only reason Mexico isn't the 51st American state is America doesn't want it. The reason= idiots like yourself.

Anonymous said...

@11:03 You aren't really that naive are you? The USA has a huge interest in seeing that the drug problem continutes unabated. Think of all the police, employees of the state, for profit prisons etc that are in business due to the "war on drugs". America may want to stop some of the over the top violence, but the Illicit drug trade is a huge part of our economy.

Anonymous said...

Trust me, the last thing these Cartels want is some CIA Spooks wandering around the countryside. Be careful about whom you ambush.

Anonymous said...

Hahaha so now there DEA not CIA...this just gets more ridiculous as the days go on,come on America what are you Hiding from us?...come on,come clean, for once.

Anonymous said...

The ZETAZ Kill anyone anything anywhere anytime.

Anonymous said...

Yes Sir...

Anonymous said...

Man,it really is sad to the Mexican v US hatred.
One on one,we get on like brothers,but as nations we hate each other?I cant see an end for the Mexican situation,and sometimes think the US would be better to stay away.No doubt Mexican authorities asked these guys(whoever)they are to help them with something,but look at the reaction from Mexicans and the press?The US were not just riding around Mexico,they were invited,but that doesn't seem to matter?Truly sad it really is.
You cannot even have an opinion,it would be good if we could see the results of some help,to try to mend bridges,but.Im stopping before i get attacked.

Anonymous said...

"I live in Mexico,I know whats going on here.Mexico is just trying to take the blame off their backs,I know for a fact that they wanted the two CIA agents dead.Sorry Corrupts your little circus is dropping down.
Oh and guess what all this facts Im giving come from one of the few honest Feds here in Mexico,wich is a close friend"
I don't know if you are Mexican or US,but thanks for any information.If you are Mexican,obviously it has more credence coming from you,than from a"gringo"Anyway keep safe man.Saludos

Anonymous said...

The comments and antagonism to each other is crazy.It is like a silly little game."Your country is worse than mine,your more corrupt"?
How do you get past this?We say things just to piss each other off,and i have been guilty of it to?Crazy,with no end in sight.

Anonymous said...

Everyone always claims they are leaving our country...cry and complain all you want, but your still here...talk shit when your actually gone...bye bye we dont want or need you here. Prideless SOB. Move to china....

Anonymous said...

Chivis....Couldn't have said it better my self....a whopping 1700 out of 311million...looks like a mass exedous lol not... Some of these commentators are hillarious acting like people are leaving USA in bus loads. Peoe who complain about USA is because they are spoiled and cant take reality as an adult...so they blame america....yes I said america big deal...united states of america aka america...just like the united states of mexico aka mexico...

Anonymous said...

I have lived in several countries myself and in 3 years I plan on leaving the US and never coming back. A lot of the rest of the world has caught up to the US in standard of living or surpassed it and the US is a declining empire destined for Third World status. You can live much better elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

"Were the CIA officers white guys? They had the Mexican marine as an interpreter? If I were a white guy, I wouldn't even cross the river."

Actually, if you know anything about Mexico, particularly the northern states, you'd know about the Mennonites. Lots of people with "white" skin that speak Spanish. Me explico? Conversely, lots of Mexican-Americans that stick out like sore thumbs from the limited Spanglish that they speak. You can't make broad generalizations on language ability based on race. That would be....uh...racist ??

Anonymous said...

The mexicans see this as payback for F&F. The comments on BB are nothing compared to the hatred towards the pinche gringos to be found in comments on all major mexican media sites. The truth is coming out.

But the US never learns. We will continue to try to help mexico as they kill us and shoot at us and blame us for everything be cause we have this huge guilt complex. Mexicans are small-minded, poorly educated and will steal us blind.

If this incident demonstrates anything it demonstrates that you can trust no one in mexico. They will smile and dig their toe in the dirt and be waiting for you around the corner and they think they have it coming.

Chivis said...

what i wonder is why the mexican officer didn't have a weapon or two.

Anonymous said...

@8:38 where? Not being a sarcastic. This election coming up, the laws, and the jingoism in the USA has me wanting to leave. I want to go somewhere the dollar is stronger and the people friendlier.

Anonymous said...

@12:51 Sabes que pendejete si Mexico no mandará las drogas para el US entonces no pudieran arrestar a los Pinches drogadictos ni cobrarle las multas que se van directo al bolso de US o a los que la venden y les Decomisan todo! So no vengas con mandas que sin US ex no la hace, es un negocio pendejete por que crees que el us manda feria a mex idiota? Tienen que pagar la cuota wey!

Anonymous said...

QUIT WATCHING MOVIES DUMBSHIT!

Anonymous said...

"I have lived in several countries myself and in 3 years I plan on leaving the US and never coming back"
Are you gonna say that about the next country that doesn't live up to your exalted expectations?
You told us all you going,,,,see ya.

Anonymous said...

"I have lived in several countries myself and in 3 years I plan on leaving the US and never coming back. A lot of the rest of the world has caught up to the US in standard of living or surpassed it and the US is a declining empire destined for Third World status. You can live much better elsewhere."

Actually, the United States has not caught up to some other countries in standards of living and may never do so for countless reasons. The U.S. is still the greatest economic and military force on the face of earth but there has always been a few other countries with higher living standards than it.

Anonymous said...

I agree with you 100%. This is by far the best comment. We need to get education. That's the way you combat corruption. Education for both USA & Mex.

Anonymous said...

YEs Sir HOLLYWOOD SMASH at its best...American one man army smashing the enemy..lol.

Anonymous said...

False information. They were U.S firearm instructors by the names of Stan Dove Boss and Jess Hods Garner as reported by various media outlets. It will be a cold day in hell the day that the U.S discloses the names of actual C.I.A agents.

Saludos...

Anonymous said...

"I agree with you 100%. This is by far the best comment. We need to get education. That's the way you combat corruption. Education for both USA & Mex."

Look at obama and Eric Holder. Two very well educated men who are knee deep in corruption via fast and furious and who are both responsible for deaths due to their program.

Saludos...

Anonymous said...

...obviously the federales were after the right drug smugglers ! The cia are criminal gangsters . The cia has been the biggest drug dealer in the world for 50 or more years. How do you think they pay for their black ops ? What do you think fast and furious was ? Another iran/contra. From Air America to Afghanistan ...and the sheeple keep on watching fox ! Who's going to be laughing from inside the fema camps ?

Anonymous said...

So if anyone American is a gringo according to dirtbags on this forum then anyone Mexican is a wetback just trying to clear the air....what about American born Mexican parent people ...gringo???

Anonymous said...

I think Mexico just pissed off because USA beat Mexico at Azteca stadium ..........hahahahahahahaahahahahd. ohhhh that must really hurt.....

Anonymous said...

Umm one unarmed vehicle ...five heavily armed dirtbag vehicles..zero casualties ...I bet if those "gringos? " had weapons they would have wasted all those dirtbags...

Anonymous said...

People forget that the CIA isn't the cleanest. I remember a few summers back I was vacationing in mex in my fathers small ranch. And coming down the mountains you see 5 atvs with bundles of marijuana. And all the locals were saying there goes the gringos. When I ask they told me it was my gente the American soldiers. The reason they knew they were Americans is because they would eat at the small restaurants there. My point is you never know how involved this agents were or are.

Anonymous said...

I'm not saying your not Mexican I'm saying that you should stop blaming the USA for Mexico problem. If the USA was not in mexico all the capos would still be out there living their lives. The reason I was talking like that is because you hate gringos when you want but when you need help there you go running to USA and begging for your help. And FYI this is not your website so you don't have the right to tell anybody they can't be in this blog especially with that stupid name yoshi phumo grow up

Anonymous said...

Say what you will about America but you never seem to see anyone sneak south across the border. The other thing is Mexico defintely doesn't want a US invasion. If you think the armed forces aren't badass you're naive. The main thing one would worry about though is collateral damage. .

Anonymous said...

Lol no kidding.

Anonymous said...

Who exactly is profiting from the firearms going south? Is it the government, no. Last I checked they didn't manufacture civilian arms. I mean, fast and furious was obviously dumb, but no ones rooting for guns going south. Mexico has always been kind of a lawless swamp tho so it's no surprise to see escalation.

Anonymous said...

They need drugs to have mass control, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Get a brain.

Anonymous said...

Lol we already have a lawless swamp, it's called Florida. We don't need two.

Anonymous said...

I tend to agree. Legalize the shit and grow the wall. Mx would continue its lawlessness due to a whole generation of criminals that suddenly have no income other than extortion or kidnapping. But, either way, we wouldn't be blamed. Wash our hands of the situation.

Anonymous said...

Lol no shit. People act as tho life in the us is so unbearable and similar to Nazi Germany or worse than living in the third world. Last I looked, there is no holocaust here. No third world starvation. There's not massive pockets of lawlessness. People need to stop exaggerating. I'd love to see some of these idiots renounce their citizenship, let me know how it goes. See you in a couple years when you're applying for a greencard.

Anonymous said...

Does anybody know why the fuc we have to give a crap about this CIA agents, for all we know they could be training corrupted Mexican cops. Everybody knows that police officers can't be trusted anymore, this could be a conspiracy so they could bring down z40 and all the zetas by the us. or maybe the zetas attacked this guys because they knew something very important that wasn't supposed to be known. Shit happens and we may never know the real story behind all this drama.

Anonymous said...

Actually my response was for the guy on top saying gringos running like chickens not towards you.. and i was guessing he was a racist little bitch but not all of us mexicans think that way, thats why i said im mexican.oh and I like my alias hahaha

_yoshi phumo_

Anonymous said...

I see a lot of comments on BB are from innocents who think the CIA agents are "good guys". Here's an article that gives another viewpoint.

http://www.madcowprod.com/2012/08/31/american-agents-wounded-mexico-linked-cia-drug-planes/

Some BB commenters have alluded to the address which one agent gave and its links to other sleazy operations, and some have claimed that American agents are deeply involved with the drug trade, but nobody's put the story together like this article has.

Anonymous said...

_yoshi phumo_
Its hard on here to not believe all Mexicans hate us.I love it when i see a Mexican tell people to fuck off with the"gringo"shit.All the time i have posted on here i have never resorted to racism,or stereotypes.True,i have indulged in the"US v Mexico"shit,but that is because you see something that pisses you off,and reply.It gets old man.Most of the time it aint personal,but the race shit is uncalled for,and does piss you off.Anyway man saludos

Anonymous said...

Whatever happened,some of them Marinas look badass.I bet they wont be taking no shit.Yes senore,no senore,bye senore.

Chivis said...

Additional information: see the link at bottom of this post,,,Paz, Chivis

Anonymous said...

i sent u an email yesterday night chivis hope u got it

-tyrone-

Anonymous said...

Let's get real. The PF, working for their narco owners, knew the Toyota was coming. They were waiting for it, they knew who was in it and they intended to kill the Americans and not kill the Mexican. They were in civilian clothes, drove civilian cars and used AK47s.

The uniformed PF that finally showed up do not belong to the narcos, at least that particular day. The Marines showed up in response to the call from the Marine with the Americans. Mexican Marines and Mexican PF do not get along.

US is training future sicarios. US wants to be able to trust someone but they know that is not possible in Mexico.

Chivis said...

Tyrone...
I did not get it. But I have a sensitive filter. Put its you in the subject so I know, and thank you for the effort..Paz, Chivs

Anonymous said...

CIA is working hand in glove with the drug cartels hence it is the American citizens who are made the idiots..Carry on stupid american fools in cheering your dirty bag of tricks which is the CIA..Do carry on with your stupidity.

Anonymous said...

So people on here can call Mexicans wetbacks.. but i called someone a racist hick.. and my post didn't get by.. so Fuck u BB.. I don't care if you post this... I just know one of u is gonna read this... I won't be on this site again... Since I seen worst stuff published , and mine was not even bad....

Anonymous said...

you are mistaken, if not for the u.s, the whole world would be fucked. you seriously think the u.s is the problem?! we've only gone to help people and protect our own shit. so fuck you cuz Mexico hasnt done SHIT for anyone else

Anonymous said...

chivis heres a link for a tutorial on how to watermarlk your pics . its on gimp which is free online

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUou-Fx_uWM

-tyrone-

Anonymous said...

No amount of aid or assistance that the U.S. sends will ever be appreciated.

Seal the border. Let Mexico fend for itself.

Anonymous said...

Great article

Anonymous said...

What can I say Mexico was very pretty back then. I was born in USA but my parents are Mexican. America is not perfect but I love it here those who keep saying America sucks its because they don't have papers to be over here but if they had they wouldn't be saying that about America. In the world what we need is more love less hate

Anonymous said...

Chivis why don't you add a (like) so we can vote

Anonymous said...

I am not a Mexican but I gotta say this "It's the US warfare technology that is badass and NOT the US soldiers...The US soldiers are Chocolate boys/girls..The USA only attacks weak countries & a few times it's got beaten by these weak countries sp get off your high horse as the issue discussed is the drug menace and not some demeaning assing by some stupid idiot like you..Stop behaving as though your country is supreme (No Country Or It's Citizens Are Supreme) AND rather pray that there are enough honest goverment & police officials in Mexico & the USA to fight this menace head on...My prayers to Mexico & the USA...God Bless.

Anonymous said...

"So people on here can call Mexicans wetbacks"
Senore you are lying,where did you see that term?
I saw something about it above,but that was in reference to"gringo"1 time.I have not see on here the random use of the word at all.So you are saying this just to be confrontational.It is ok to be racist against"white people"and then get upset when you yourself see it directed at you?
Now you know how i feel.Racism is bullshit.

Anonymous said...

No amount of aid or assistance that the U.S. sends will ever be appreciated.
Seal the border. Let Mexico fend for itself.
SAD BUT PATENTLY TRUE MY FRIEND.SO TRUE.

Anonymous said...

Hahahahaha...Best comment on Americans thinking that REAL LIFE is REEL LIFE of HOLLYWOOD where a platoon of Rambos kill Thousand Enemies..OH!! Sorry Its CAPTAIN AMERICA & THE AVENGERS..Hilarious comment...sums up the American psyche...HAHAHAHA.

Anonymous said...

Just one simple question people.
Is Mexico City safe ?
My friend will have to go there and stay for at least a year or two, so i said "hey isn't it dangerous?" and he said "As far as i heard, Mexico City is not really a drug-war zone so i guess it's fine"

So is he right ?

Anonymous said...

Gringo is not Insult.. look up the definition... Wetback is an insult... And no racisim is not cool.. its a new age, racisim should no longer exist... BB reporters you should not allow any racist commons get posted.. this forum is a discussion about the DRUG WAR in Mexico .. not who's race is better.. all races are the same in my eyes...

Anonymous said...

Every cartel is fighting for Mexico City

Anonymous said...

"all races are the same in my eyes"
Now the tune has changed,when someone made you realize that THERE IS NO NEED FOR RACISM OF ANY KIND ON BORDERLAND BEAT FROM ANYONE

Anonymous said...

The whole world is fucked because of the USA being a bully and attacking weak countries to gain their resources so that the few Elite become richer..Terrorism is just a petty excuse to fool the world..Weapons Of Mass Destruction, Human Rights Violations, NO EVIDENCE..Human Rights Violations are carried out by the USA..Lot of women are in the US army, navy & airforce who are either raped or in some form sexually abused but cant complain for fear or reprisal from their superiors in the US defence forces. Where are the basic human rights for women in the US armed forces? If you think I am fabricating it then do your research properly..(The main stream media may or may never report it and the US armed forces women will keep suffering in silence without any rights..So Shut The Fuck Up and fight for the rights of the women in your (USA) armed forces if you have the balls & STOP fooling yourself that the US of A is the saviour of the world...Shame On You, Some of you Americans are Stupid AssHoles.

Anonymous said...

@9/5 12:13PM,
Dude your an idiot...stop your bullshit "trolling!" Where did you come up with female American soldiers are being raped and sexually assaulted? I have heard some pretty stupid shit on here but your comment takes the cake! As far as the USA only attacking weaker countries, huh..hello, all of the military action taken by the US were joint operations or conducted using coalition forces from other countries...dumbass! The fact there has not been another major offensive by extreme Islamic terrorists in the US, since 9/11, only proves "the war on terror" has worked!

Anonymous said...

"Where are the basic human rights for women in the US armed forces"
This is the same person who was blaming US WHITE MEN,for the Femicides of Juarez?
This is the kind of person who you are dealing with,one who tells outright lies to suit her warped ideas of race and gender.

Anonymous said...

Lol..with your stupid assumptions..Just shows your stupid psyche in trying to draw conclusions to people & things that are not related plus it shows your gutter attitude towards the dognity of women..No doubt the Mainstream Media successfully brainwashes you punks to stay mentally retarded throughout your miserable lives..I am NOT a SHE and you dont have the balls to be a MAN and you will always be a pansy throughout your life...I pity ypu.

Anonymous said...

Comments by this moron of an American shitbag saying that a coalition of a few countries along with the USA takes away the blame from the USA? (Majority of the countries in the world were against US attacking IRAQ which had NO role in terrorism rather it was Saudi Arabians who founded AlQuida. Why NO attack on Saudi Arabia? Even on this issue YOU HAVE NO BALL to demand an answer from your US of A goverment) American Cracker will always remain an American Cracker...LOL.

Anonymous said...

USA trains Mexican Special Forces and a few of them later form Los Zetas...USA funded & trained AlQuida and they become Global Terrorist...USA attacks countries with an excuse to so called Liberate them and they become an Anarchy State...Moral Of These Experiences :- "Whichever Normal People & Countries Touched By The USA Have Become Rotten".

Anonymous said...

"This is the kind of person who you are dealing with,one who tells outright lies to suit her warped ideas of race and gender."
Your comments show you to be the kind of assholes that are frequently rejected by women and yup it shows where you coming from.

Anonymous said...

I love how the Zetas get their asses kicked and then try to act all hard on the internet. I've seen ex-US SOF operators working as contractors in Mexico and the last time they got in a gunfight (it was in Jan 2010 when i was there)I saw the aftermath, and ONE single ex-Delta operator smoked about fifteen Zetas/cartel hired guns in under a few minutes, with only a small wound to the ankle from a stray ricochet. I started writing a book about the PMCs there two years ago, and the evidence is apparent. Without order, that place would be smoldering ash already. Let mexico be mexico, and build the wall already. Mexico wants the wall too, if they are so "against the gun imports"...then good! We agree, we'll seal it off! Thanks!

Anonymous said...

If the USA builds the wall, how in the hell are they gona get your drugs here you crackhead.... you guys can't live without them... INGORANT , thats what the american ppl are, they beleive all of the shit the government tells them lol.. As you can see, the CIA has been a huge player in the drug traffiking business, they are part of the problem....

TaskForceGreen said...

By the way, has anyone else heard about US forces getting in any *other* gunfights in Mexico? I am writing a book about US private contractors/US SOF doing work there, and trying to find stories of OTHER incidents that maybe I hadn't already heard about.

Anonymous said...

USA will not go to war with Mexico, you're dreaming. Rich people in USA make a killing off of Mexico's resources, slavery and proximity to the rest of the South. Not to mention narco, human and other illegal businesses.

It's good that they're showing some form of punishment. It's a shame that it's only because the victims were from USA. If the victims had been innocent Mexicans, this would've been heart breaking.

Any person with an unhealthy knowledge of cartels would've put their foot on the gas too. The soldiers weren't in uniform. They should've signalled to their fellows in uniform to pull them over. It's crazy that Mx think that this tactic holds weight in any moral way.

Forced to pull over by armed civilians. Screw yous, I'm out of here!

That could've been a kidnapping attempt. It should be treated as a criminally organized attack and given the same penalties as cartel corruption. But ti's Mexico, and they don't like the gringos pushing their weight around on their authority. Good. CIA are good for nothing any way.

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