Wednesday, February 11, 2015

Shootings Reorganize the CAF

Translated for Borderland Beat from a Zetatijuana Special Report by Otis B Fly-Wheel

The restructure of the Arellano Felix Cartel and its dispute with the people of the Sinaloa Cartel for certain plazas; the betrayals inside the cells with hit men looking to raise the ranks, and debts for drugs seized to independent traffickers.

They are the causes of assassinations and gun battles in Tijuana, according to analysis of the Authorities and of Alejandro Lares Valladares, Secretary of Public Security in Tijuana.


Zeta Investigations

What is happening? asks the Secretary of Public Security for Tijuana, Alejandro Lares Valladares, in relation to the resurgence of criminals with rifles, and of battles in public areas in the middle of the day, the functionary said.

He spoke with intent about the criminals of the Arellano Felix Cartel (CAF) reorganizing, with a confrontation between them and the Sinaloa Cartel, and of social decomposition.

Also in his charge is the area of intelligence and of the Special Operations Group (GOES) Carlos Gomez, Lares Valladares explains that the head of the CAF detained and freed have returned to their illicit activities. He gave some names, Manuel Lopez Nunez "El Balas", the ex-Ministry Enrique Jorquera Guerrero, Pedro Quintero Velazquez "El 5-8", "El Jaguar", alias "Pedro", and Juan Lorenzo Cargas Gallardo, who is good in areas of intelligence , and so will be at the head of restructuring.



He also mentioned of confrontations with the Sinaloa Cartel, headed by "El Chapito Trejo", who operates with Dailia Rodelo"La Prima" and Julian Lopez "El Chino", "El Elias", "El Cabezon" and "Clave Marlon" alias "Alejo". He insists that the brothers Alfonso and Rene Arzarte, continue giving instructions from some point in Sinaloa.



What is happening repeats Lares? and replies:

"That now its very easy for the people to go out and kills somebody, its social decay. What happened with the death of the woman, her stepson under the influence of Crystal meth asks her for money, when it was not given, he attacked and killed her, these events occurred in the Linda Vista colonia on September 11th 2014."

"Its social decay its living and is derived from the drug trade in Crystal Meth."

In respect of the resurgence in rifles, a recent case was heard, on 12th of December 2014 when two AR 15 rifles were used when a group of men tried to kill another man in the parking lot of Carl's Jnr fast food restaurant in Soler. This man himself had been in a previous shoot out, which occurred on 29th November, in the interior of the Restaurant Cabanna, in an exclusive area of La Mesa delegation.

Rifles have always been in Tijuana, that is very clear, recognized Lares, but if we see a chronology there has always been rifles. There is the confiscation of weapons from State Police at Altabrisa. On December 21st 2014, PEP said two rifles and 352 rounds of ammunition were recovered from a house.

He said "Recently we have detected on facebook, arms for sale, pistols for 500 pesos."

Also they who carried rifles in the streets, they were imprisoned CAF members, are now free, said Carlos Gomez responding to the Secretary of Security.

Lately on the other side, is the Sinaloa Cartel, who have the rifles to stop those who are trying to rise in the ranks.

For the Authorities, until now the difference with the worst years of insecurity in Tijuana, is that Rifles they have, but they are lacking in equipment. They carry magazines with only 10-15 rounds in, they are searching for the cohesion to become a more effective team.

Before we saw former Police Officers, in the videos we see now they are tattooed hit men, exposed the authorities. In terms of attacks in public places and central locations, the opinion of the Police is that they happen because the criminals start to hang around in these areas, where there are many Forces Patrols, thinking that their enemies will not dare to try and kill them there, but they do come and attack them and manage to flee.

The resurgence of the Arellano Felix Cartel


Completing the phrase, Lares and Gomez detail:

"If there exists a reorganization  or an intent to reorganize the Arellano Felix Cartel, as it has always existed.... wanting to carry this out, are the men they are releasing from prisons."

"They are free, but to do what? Nothing? some of them stay straight for a while, like Manuel Lopez Nunez "Don Balas", who was a business man but returned to drug related activities.

But they say that all of the ex prisoners affect insecurity, the CAF had 2,694 who were imprisoned for theft or violence in Tijuana in 2014 have been released.

"Is it a fight between those of the CAF who have left prison and the Sinaloans?" asked Zeta

"For us yes"

"In all of the city?"

In certain zones where they are reorganizing, if you review the clashes, they are in the areas that were formerly controlled by CAF: Playas, Soler, La Cacho. In all these places we have to accept their intent to reorganization, because they are leaving prison and do not know how to do anything else than to be a criminal.

As an example:"Only 5-8 (Pedro Quintero Velazquez) has 14 or 15 properties in Rosarito, people come from San Luis to sell them, we have just detained one of his accomplices. Speaking of him, they have no arrest warrant and he is a fundamental part of the CAF, he has been working with many people from "Los Surenos" and "Paisas", ex convicts from the prisons in California.


We had a well founded fear, that the CAF will recruit from deportees as cheap labor, if you look at the majority of the arrested, or those captured in video images, they have gang tattoos, you check with the United States and they have been imprisoned for murder, robbery with violence, drugs, and do not know how to do anything else, all the tattooed people are not given jobs here.

Some of the ex prisoners who are CAF members that are causing problems of insecurity and gun battles are:

Juan Lorenzo Gallardo "El Chan", detained in December of 2010, freed in august 2014.

Manuel Lopez Nunez "El Balas" captured in September of 2008, and given freedom in November of 2011.

Pedro Quintero Velazquez "El 5-8", "El Jaguar", alias "Pedro", apprehended in September of 2012, freed, recaptured 25th August 2013 and freed the following day.

"El Chan"carries the baton, "El Balas" left long ago, he was an entrepreneur, but rejoined the organisation, Jorquera is already active with them, "El 5-8" was in San Luis, but has already returned.

Subalterns are identified by the alias "El Gros", "El Alejo", "Pit Junior" and "Giovanni", also known as "El Sotol".

What are you doing in this regard?

We are locating them, to make structures and stop them.

As regards the structure of the Sinaloa Cartel, headed by the brothers Alfonso and Rene Arzate "Los Aquiles". In Otay there is a mentor, Elias, all of the detained say that he is the voice of Sinaloa, "El Cabezon" in the east zone, "El Alejo" and "El Chapito Trejo", who has control of them all, the people of this group want it this way according to the testimony of the detained.

Betrayals and debts as reasons for killing

Consulting both Alejandro Lares Valledares, like Carlos Gomez, and the assistant attorney general for State Public Security Jose Maria Gonzalez Martinez agree that, if they are to be arrested and not receive any help from their criminal bosses, the dealers refuse to keep selling and in some cases change their cell phones, and this almost always ends in an assassination. In some cases even the refusal to keep selling is enough to get them killed.

"We have seen cases about, where distributors , intending to kill dealers because they believe the dealers were contemplating leaving, or they get shot because they were going to change their mobile phones, or they set them up so their competitors kill them", said Gonzalez Martinez.

"Also there are cases of people who are dedicated to crossing drugs into the United States, but something went wrong and the load was seized, if they cannot pay, they get killed", argued Gomez.

Other have personal vendettas between drug dealers, with access to guns and drugs. The municipal Police gave an account of a shooting that occurred on the Tuesday 27th of January, the injured man was Sanchez toboada, they said that people identified as "El Perro" and "El Chito", met the injured man and shot him because "El Perro" was told that the man had slept with his wife who was also a drug dealer.

Another example is the homicide of Jonathan de Jesus Barraza Izaguirre, his corpse was found located on the 8th of January, on the federal highway of Cuota Playas, with gunshot wound in his chest. Eduardo Llamas was wounded n the same location. The investigation lead to the capture of Hector Hugo Fregoso Ornelas "El Chemo", a drug dealer of crystal meth, who declared that he killed Barraza because Barazza wanted to expand his zone, and he had received orders to kill Barazza from his boss, known as "El Unico, already nobody enters his territory without his permission. They deceived them by telling them that were allowed to sell drugs and were being shown their territory.

Also the case of Cesar Hernandez Aguilar, "El Tartamundo" who on January 23rd 2014 killed Francisco Javier Aguilar Robledo by shooting him in the chest several times, he was a drug sales boss , but when he was detained by the Police his boss would not pay his bail, he refused to keep selling, which led to his death.

In a likewise manner, are the small shop drug dealers said the Attorney General for Tijuana Gilberto Cota Alanis, when they are attacked they do not want to give information on their attackers, or why they were attacked, and they never want to give statements.


Less murders

Regarding the gun battles and the homicides, the State Attorney General, Jose Maria Gonzalez Martinez, stated that 2015 had started with a reduction.

We mentioned that there is a decrease that is not historical, for the better rate. In January 2012 there were 43 homicides, 42 were committed in 2013, with 47 in 2014, and this year by January 2015 we have 28, he said.

In all of Baja California there have been 41 culpable homicides, 27 in Tijuana, 10 in Mexicali, two in Rosarito, two en Ensensada and none in Tecate, according to the official figures of the PGJE.

In terms of statistics, in January of 2014, there were 1.2 homicides per day, meanwhile in January of 2015 there had been an average of 1.4 homicides per day.

I know they killed a man in a cafe in the colonia Cacho, then a double homicide in Tijuana made too much noise, but in general the numbers are down.

"I saw it coming, and admit the table has to be swept clean, said Gonzalez Martinez in reference to the captures made by the Federal Police of Alfonso Lira "El Atlante" and Luis Mendoza Uriate "El Guero Chompas," but specifically to combat that which is deemed narco trafficking in the terms of the PGJE."

"We are not going to see the end of narco trafficking, possibly we can forge ahead to decrease what is visible, we went from people who operated in the shadows ten years ago, to people on the street selling product, for this reason we have increased to more than 500% in Police searches related to narco trafficking."

"We went from 12 raids throughout the state throughout 2013, to 88 searches in 2014" ( Otis: it could be a thousand raids, but if the targets of the raids are advised beforehand, the numbers don't matter).

In addition, we doubled the number of detainees recorded before judges in 2014 to 1,500 which is double the figure from the previous year, " you take them from circulation and the figures reduce," said the state official.

"On this subject we have been clear in hitting all the drug selling groups, I told them don't ask me, make it clear to everyone we are coming, because we have found colonias where neither the Municipal Police or the PEP are made available to anyone, there are colonias where they never see a mobile patrol, but here their instruction is not to give information about future searches so they investigate do their job and inform us."

"I am very interested in hitting the people of "El Aquiles", of "El Atlante", that to me is the best cure. Historically we see that, you never hit so and so or that location."

"Its clear that we come from incredible passivity previously on the part of the police, with search warrants month to month only amounting to 90 per year. Now the PGR have released all the dealers in the past year, they were left with 60 percent of the cases, we ordered six secretaries and they already arrived to help with administration."

In respect of the groups that are trafficking and killing, the Attorney General mentioned the usual suspects of "Los Arzarte", the people of Mendoza Uriarte, Don Cuco, the people of "El Atlante", and "El Chapito Trejo".

"Who and why are they killing?"

In general terms, narco trafficking continues in Tijuana. the difference in the wars for territory, is that there are many internal conflicts happening.

Jose Maria Gonzalez Martinez added the problem posed is that of the released. He remembers how in conversations before 2008, Raydel Lopez "El Muletas" and Filiberto Parra "La Perra", came and went from prison, the PGR data records possession of 30 wraps, a kilo of Marijuana, etc. and after release they staged one of the worst periods of insecurity in Tijuana. We process so many, but we must make sure not to grow these people into worse criminals, we have to take them out of circulation, he warned.

In this category the authorities consider are: Javier Hernandez Flores "El Javi" or "El Lentes", and Dalia Rodelo "La Prima", Julian Lopez "El Chino", they are sought for the homicide of the ex-director of the Municipal Institute of Sport, Arturo Hachadur Kaloyan, which occurred on the 16th of December 2013.

In respect of the constant release from prison of criminals, the Attorney General is limited to say, " its a question for the Courts, we do what is within our remit. But "El Javi" is the best example of what is happening at the moment, he has an outstanding arrest warrant for possession of weapons, but was set free."

The same occurs with other narco traffickers.

"It is not easy to convince the Judges of Criminal Courts, we process them for possession with intent to supply, where the intent to supply is considered a more serious crime, we show they have no work or other source of income, but the judges reduced his charge to possession. So we ask for bail in the region of 12,000 to 20,000 pesos, but the judges lower that to 3000 pesos, so along comes a relative and pays the sum, and they are at liberty" again concluded Jose Maria Gonzalez Martinez.

Original special report in Spanish at Zetatijuana

55 comments:

  1. The 90s called that they want their super cartel back. Please even Benjamin said in his new book that his crime family is non existant , ya nomas. What's going on in Tijuana is that you still have young men pushing weight using the glorified CAF flag and that is why they get shot at. All the brothers that were active once upon a time ago are now in the history channel. Enedina got spooked after Mayo ordered Pancho's hit and she vanished. When el Tigrillo got nabbed that was it. Just by the apprehension of el sobrino ferny lets you know that he had no real influence within even Baja's political system. Let alone Los Pinos like his big uncle Benja who used to send million dollar brief cases towards that direction just to keep the radar clear. After Tigrillo's illegal capture all the crews under CAF felt nomore allegiance within the Cartel. CAF is just like the Sopranos now, a glorified crew who lets another big dog chew on it's bone in it's own backyard. This Intel comes from a close relative who is a somebody within Tijuana's municipal attorney office.

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    1. I myself have read this in a article you mention my friend. As to Don Benjamin's statements my friend. You really must be fucken stupid or just acting!? If your being accuse of being something or doing something by an individual or government do you priof them right!?? i dont know were u come from but were im from we dont know anything or anybody..your close relative in the attorneys office is as dumb as a phuken cow if not worst believing the bullshit she o he reads and assumes must be the reality el semanario zeta publishes that week lol.. this news editor in my opinion has more ppl killed than street gossip. YOU MUST BE THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO LETS HIS MOST HATED NEIGHBOR COME IN TO HIS HOME AND LETS HIM TROLL OFF EVERYTHING HE WANTS N HAVE HIS WAY stop me when i lie. Come down here my friend n do some research without stepping on ppls toes. N dont say ur from down here bcuz ur statements clearly show ur not.we no longer existe pass it on....

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  2. If only CAF and CDS joined forces to take out los zetas, Mexico would forsure be a better place. or am I wrong?

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    1. HAHAHAH you are SO wrong..... There is no more CAF, the people working in the name of CAF is just low levels fools from zona norte that only have areas were they sell drugs, they don't really export like they used to. Maybe there are some old school cats that used to work with CAF, but not no more, most of them are on their own or with Aquiles

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    2. that's what I use to think here Tamps the Gulfo seems to be just has bad.
      We r #1 in Kidnaping, can't go to Matamores not safe. And there is no end

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    3. You are wrong. Zetas are like cockroaches and they keep multiplying. Once you think they are eradicated more pop up and surprise you. Even with all the power Chapo and the federation had through the years they still couldn't defeat them. Zetas aren't active in Baja and CAF have no real muscle anymore so the partnership with CDS wouldn't make a difference. Plus there is too much of a history of bad blood between CAF and CDS. Mexico would be a better place if all the cartels were gone but we know that will never happen.

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  3. Arellano Felix still active , charging plaza ! People are in denial but is well known.."bajita la tenaza, menos ruido más acción".arriba tijuana

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    1. Keep dreaming....

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    2. Te alucinas con los corridos de los plebes de arranke y revolution norteña hahaha ay llevatela wey

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  4. This is the Texas Rattle Snake Stone Cold Steve Austin if yall want me to get in my truck and head down to Mexico and open a can of whoop ass on these sorry sons of bitches for crossing the line with my mexican people give me a hell yeah!!!!..........I swear the person to come out with fantasy cartel is gonna be rich the same way we have fantasy football we should have fantasy cartel......my condolonces to the beautiful people of Mexico there's no good deed that goes un noticed and I only wish for everyone too have a peaceful and loving long life but greed and power can affect a person in such a way that evil is the only result may God be with everyone reading this or not reading everyone will be in my prayers

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    1. Why don't you worry about the cops that kill innocent people in your backyard. Why worry about another country's problems when you have quite a few on your own country.

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    2. HELLLL YEEEAH!!!!

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    3. @02-11-15 @6:58 because my backyard is Mexico baboso I live in Carrizo Springs Tx, and my backyard is where the violence is occurring in Piedras Negras.......everyone here graduates and ends up transporting illegals or selling drugs instead of going to school or getting a real job.

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    4. 12:22 AM
      Lmao that told him

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  5. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC4QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.milenio.com%2Fpolicia%2Foperador_financiero_zeta-detienen_zeta_Nuevo_Laredo-violencia_Tamaulipas_0_462553990.html&ei=H-nbVI23BYq_ggSNnoD4Dg&usg=AFQjCNGRJWgD8PhWFBhtKHJyXHGWUTKQbg&bvm=bv.85761416,d.eXY

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  6. What happened to all the news about michoacan?? Its almost like eveything that was happening there finished. No one reports on pitufu or el broly or la tuta or hipolito or el americano or etc... By the way what happened to hipolito?

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    1. The only winners in Michoacan are Papa Pitufo, Tuta, n Broly Banderas. The other clowns got suckered by the government hahahaha

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    2. You and el broly? Y u so interested in him, u find him cute?

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    3. 8;15-O yeah hes a babe and a half.

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    4. Lol a babe and a half. Ha ha. Come on canadiana i'm sure you have aftertaste than that! Lol

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    5. Strictly physical.

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  7. February 11, 2015 at 2:55 PM Y O U are W R O N G. Don't forget All this chaos started because those sinaloa culos tried to control the entire drug business and boarders and the pendejos failed miserably even with the help of mx/us government and thousands of soldiers. sinaloa pusies started this war which created a series of smaller wars between "alies" all across Mexico

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    1. Benjamin and Ramon Arellano were sinaloenses, also Amado and Viceroy, Rafael and Gallardo all from Sinaloa

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    2. Arellanos are sinaloan!

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    3. The federation aggresion eastward was one of the reasons Osiel created the Zetaz. So you are 100% correct about CDS making things worse in Mexico. They were the catalyst for the worst drug violence in Mexico's history.

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    4. Pablo Acosta Villarreal "El Zorro de Ojinaga" Started the Juarez Cartel. This drugwar will get worse and end a blood fueds. Our people have basically been polarized. Our own people calling each other "contras" while we kill each other and destroy our country, rich foreign bankers get richer, arms dealers get richer. And you sinaloa pendejos are to blame for it and your mindfucking Mexican kids and teenagers with your garbage music.

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    5. chapo and los arellanos were homies before chapo started beef with them tryn to take over tijuas fucken sapito couldnt do it why didnt geraldo ortiz sing that song in tj

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    6. Call it what you want. But can you name one lugarteniente from CAF still strong??..... don't worry I'll wait.....that;s right there are no strong ones, if any at all. The peole are now working on their own or with aquiles or pelones. thats it, and since aquiles has more power and money they are on his side. All the rich people that use to ride with CAF is now with him, say what you say...

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    7. @244.....god dam kids! Get off my lawn!

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  8. Just when you thought AFO was counted out, Enedina Arellano-Felix bringing the family back!!!!

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  9. Sinaloenses run the game, all the heads in the history books were chinolas, Juarez Cartel, CAF, CDS and the Guadalajara Cartel, Sinaloa breeds intelligence but man, you wonder if they put that to good use what would Mexico be today, I disagree their way of living by manufacturing and distributing narcotics that are harmful to society

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    1. Lol.All those fools illiterate and hillbillies. There is no way in hell that they would become doctors ,lawyers,ect. The fact of the matter is Sinaloas economy is agricultural . There are not enough jobs other than agriculture and the drug trade.

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    2. Sinaloa breeds intelligence? LOL..what a moron. just because a man is lazy and a leech that makes him intelligent? You is a fool. An intelligent person betters gimself through education and hard work. Beacuse you are a narco cheerleader you think they are intelligent? I think they are lazy criminals!

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    3. You said it, ''you THINK they are lazy criminals'' thats your thoughts. Ibet you have not even made half of the riches most of them make. Even if you became a ''lazy criminal'' it is easy to judge when your not playing the game. For the record, the old school guys became criminals because MExico does not give the same oportunities as other countries. ''You IS a fool'' hahaha come on man, you can talk shit on ignorant people and be one yourself.

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    4. ... "You Is A Fool"... Now How Does That Sound?... LOL ... Pretty Ignorant And Uneducated Also... Try Going To Los Mochis And Call Someone A Moron, Leach Or Any Other Derogatory Remarks, I Bet You Don't Come Back From The Vacation.......

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    5. ''you THINK they are lazy criminals''
      Another idiot.If you have drugs,you still have to get off your ass and sell them,worrying about police,snitches,people,money,yeah its lazy drug dealing.
      You haven't got a clue..

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    6. Lol. Im from guasave..been to mochis plenty... and going back on march 20th

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    7. People from sinaloa just know how to deal drugs. I know a l of sinaloa people and their doing drugs and selling drugs. Most drop out their first year in high school. They are not smart. The facts there is about a hundred well of from sinaloa in the drug trade all the rest are dead and in jail. Sinaloa is full of women because most men get killed for being in the drug g game. Sinaloa never has had a president for Mexico or made any great contributions to n Mexicans. Just drugs and singers that talk about drugs and CARTELS. Yea. They are genius! ! Lol

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  10. Pura gente del cholo 5-5 ala orden esta plaza sigue haciendo de la familia... La familia sigue activa al 100 puro zona Norte

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    1. Keep dreaming fool!!!

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    2. Aqui en tijuas la plaza sigue teniendo el mismo jefe puro caf logan hts arriba

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  11. Damaso Lopez Nuñez is his brother or what?

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    1. No he aint.. Damaso has 3 siblings

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  12. Good to hear there's some men with balls brains and the will to run the c.a.f. you can't have criminals from some other states run your town. Good for c.a.f.

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    1. There is not any. The strong ones are with Aquiles.

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    2. Yeah they all dead or in prison testifying

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  13. Where can I find that Benjamin book at I want to read that shit.

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    1. El Extraditado:Benjamin Arellano Felix

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    2. Have anyone read El Extraditado ?

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  14. Who cares? At the end of the day they are all criminals. People rally behind this one and that one as if they are a football team. The reason all the crap is going on is "GREED", and they all have it! People saying who's cute who's not. None of that matters. There are way too many innocent people dead today because of this greed and pson, and as always they are forgotten and the focus is turned to nonsense like this. Hopefully hell opens and swallow them all.

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  15. A psychosis was created to scare osiel into hiring the former gafes working on creating the formal drug trafficking cartel for the mexican military, they was tired of carrying big narco-bosses little louis vuitton purses and luggage for tips, specially after carlos sainas de gortari stole the defense budget money, a billion dollars a year...
    --The purpose was to steal osiel's money making empire, mision cumplida !!!

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  16. Eather way they had a good run from wat i hear is they still active in t.j.

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  17. Mientras mas se enrede el cuento mejor..
    Echan orejas kabrones hay les va.. saludos a todos los mangueras ilusionados. Guardense sus opiniones ke aki nos vale verga.. los vatos ke andan en tj asiendo ruido entre si todos son oh fueron gente del tres y muletas en su entonces. Akiles uriartes atlante guichos profes etc... al tres y muletas se les rento y asigno el este de la tia para mantener y cuidar de kualkier.. al meter la pata estos dos weyes el equipo de casa los mando a chingar a su madre al tres muletas y toda su gente por decisión De todos. Un par de disculpas y mamadas despues de uno ke otro wey pidieron rentar y mantener areas antes asignadas a sus patrones. Y como sus patrones anteriores entre si se traicionaron y envidiaron. Lo dicho y lo echo ya esta. Para todos los ilusionados de hoy en dia Ke les hace creer ke esta bola de vatos es tijuana!? El equipo siempre ha estado firme y poniendo sus condiciones.. saludos del equipo ke ya no existe lol..

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  18. Estado viendo durante tiempo como la gente enredan las cosas al respecto al equipo de casa. Aki se da risa para serles sinceros. Hay les va para sakarlos de dudas a todos. Se disen como son las cosas aki en la casa. Kieren ver por si mismo echense una vuelta por aka aver como les va. Los vatos de orita haciendo ruido (akiles uriartes atlantes profes guichos etc...) in par de anos atras fueron o formaban parte del mismo equipo siendo el equipo ke tenia el tres y muletas. A estos dos weyes el Equipo de Casa les rento y asigno el este de la tia para ke la manejaran y cuidaran. El tres y muletas meten la pata y el Equipo de Casa los manda a chingar a su madre por decisión. De todos aki. Esta bola de vatos se kedan sin patrones. Uno ke otro se arriman a pedir perdon y respetos al Equipo de Casa. La bola de vatos pide rentar y manejar areas antes manejadas por sus antiguos patrones pero al igual ke ellos pronto se envidian y traicionan entre si. Y esto abre paso a las peleas entre si. En conclusion ke les hace pensar ke esta bola son tijuana!!? El Equipo de Casa siempre estuvo y estara firme poniendo sus condiciones. Mientras los renteros de casa le pagen su renta al dueno, nos vale verga como la agan para pagar mientras pagen!! Saludos de los ke ya no existen. Lol

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