Sunday, September 28, 2014

At least 11 dead after Juarez/Sinaloa gun battle in Guachochi Chihuahua

Two opposing groups of Sinaloa (Gente Nueva) and Juarez (La Linea) cartels,  fought a fierce gun battle, lasting multiple hours,  in the city of Guachochi in the Sierra Tarahumara, leaving 11 people dead.  Although local witnesses insist there were 18 dead.

Yesterday the state attorney general confirmed that in the aftermath of the battle, 11 people were dead.

The gunfight broke out Friday night at the junction of the road to Tónachi, in an areas known as "Cerro Grande", about five kilometers from Guachochi.  Tónachi is an indigenous community, having a small population of 200 people, that is located an hour away from Creel.

In a statement, Arturo Figón  Sandoval, a spokesman for the Prosecutor's Office, confirmed that four of the victims were incinerated.  The confrontation occurred in the ongoing struggle for control of harvesting and drug trafficking in the area.  2 tons of marijuana were left at the scene. 

Several of the deceased subjects were wearing tactical uniforms and vests.

Some reports, and authorities initially reported, that among the dead were innocents.

At the scene the prosecution investigators,  recovered four torched vehicles, of which inside contained the 4 incinerated bodies..  The spokesman also reported that a massive amount of shells were in the area of the clash,  from various calibers including 50cal and 40mm grenade shells.

During the gunfight, several grenades were launched.   According to the report of the Attorney General, investigators discovered apx 1000  spent shells.

The main activities of the two groups in the mountainous regions are  the harvest and sale of marijuana and poppy .



Diario Cambio de Puebla reported that a CDS “leader” was killed in the action, but had no name,no details and is the only source that is reporting the death. The Puebla newspaper was  tentative in their reporting, saying “supposedly”.

update:  Pedro Salgueiro González, was killed in the confrontation.  He is the cousin of Noel Salgueiro Nevárez alias "Flaco" [above left].  This is probably the person reference to in reports.

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118 comments:

  1. All the dead were from la linea

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    1. Noo they where cds they where ambushed cds was transporting 2 tons of weed and La linea tryed to steal it they killed the cds plaza boss sounds like La linea is desperate for money.

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    2. Hmm ill take your word for it. Its funny because all the mexican news articles state most of the dead are Gente Nueva CDS. Also a CDS leader was among the dead La Linea did loose acouple guys,it was 3 or four. CDS leader was ambushed.

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    3. I dont think so

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    4. Tu no sabes nada guey!!!

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    5. Por eso se llaman gente nueva por ke estan bien pendejos

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    6. You guys should work for the DEA. Being that you supposedly know so much of whats going on and who did what. Yeah I was being sarcastic by the way!

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    7. Esos de la linea no se rajan para nada

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    8. La Gente Muerta is what juarez calls them

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    9. Its chavez cds vs salguerio cds

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  2. What happened to that supposed ceasfire CDS had with JUAREZ

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  3. Let them kill each other

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  4. I spent a week at a cabin in Guachochi about a year ago. They said it was quiet and peaceful there with no violence. When I got home to Chihuahua I talked to the owners of the cabin who I know personally. They said their grandson had just been kidnapped and they had to pay a big sum for him to be released. Then a week later I see that two Tarahumara indigenous were killed. Now this. Sad part is that the Indians who are the real natives there are having to put up with all this crap. Wake up government and protect these people.

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  5. Snitchola gona lose

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    1. Sept 28 @9:40pm

      Lose = loss
      Loose = not tight

      It should be "loose".

      (Sorry, couldn't help myself)

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    2. Well thank u for the grammer lesson mr wizard there is pure tragedy going on down south and u wanna play school teacher and I already know all the grammer mistakes ive made on this post and I dont give a rip.


      Sorry I couldnt help myself

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  6. hahaha it was said that some of the killed were wearing vests n tactical gear???? someone show these idiots how to use n wear that type of clothing hahaha. IDIOTS I TELL YOU!

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    1. Please tell us how to make tactical gear stop a bullet from penetrating your head?

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    2. Your comment is as stupid as you! How do you know they dont know how to wear one? Are you sure of that? Do you many sicarios and seen thay dont know how to wear them? Didnt think so. Please dont talk pit of your ass, thank you.

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    3. yo 9:04, if you are going to comment like that, at least you make sense or at least type it up right, ignorant fool. or in ur case ignarat fuuu..hahaha

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    4. Wtf? Some people need to learn how to read and write.dumbasses

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    5. Humm 50 cal. Theres tactical gear for it?? If so ,please tell me where to find it.

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    6. Tactical gear idiot vests to carry grenades extra amo radios things you need in combat what the hell you guys think its like a playstation game you can get shot and still shoot like rambo and find health around???

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  7. If you havent read borderlandbeat forum most the dead were from Gente Nueva. There was actually 18 deaths between 4 to 8 were from the LL and the majority from Gn, also the Cds plaza boss was killed guys read this http://diariocambio.com.mx/2014/nacional/item/170025-matan-a-lider-del-cartel-de-sinaloa-en-balacera-entre-sicarios-y-militares

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    1. It said balacera entre sicarios y militares. Who were militares GN or LL?

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  8. In a shoot out like this it is not the worst ones that lose, it's who ever runs out of ammo first that loses. Either way, doesn't make either side better.

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  9. (News of Chihuahua) .- In agreement with preliminary information about the confrontation that occurred in the municipality of Guachochi, where 11 people died, the dejected belonged to the criminal group of the Gente Nueva of the Sinaloa Cartel http://www.entrelineas.com.mx/notas.php?id_n=260880

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    1. What's there to be so proud of?

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  11. http://www.entrelineas.com.mx/notas.php?id_n=260880 (News of Chihuahua) .- In agreement with preliminary information about the confrontation that occurred in the municipality of Guachochi, where 11 people died, the dejected belonged to the criminal group of the Gente Nueva of the Sinaloa Cartel.

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  12. I'm from this area and shit is really heated they have checkpoints all around guachochi and when I say they I mean sicarios idk what cartel but last time I checked la GENTE NUEVA had the town under control people in the town actually liked them there cause they beat up ppl that steal and killed rapist and really didn't mess with the ppl but I guess linea is pushing in. I'll try to find out more and let you guys know

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    1. How's it going I guachochi now

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  13. These stupid turds taking themselves out is good for us michoacanos,fuck Gente PENDEJA and Juarez cartel- grandmaster TUTA

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    1. Yea, i dont think tuta would last a week fighting against cds or cdj, i mean look at the templarios theyre getting kicked out of michoacan by comunitarios armed with sticks and stones.

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    2. Pendejo la frontera es lo que mas importa I los Sinaloenses tienen casi toda la frontera , el Muerto de hambre tuta solo sirve para robarle a su propia gente pobre I la gente que se cre de la tuta

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    3. Jajaja toda la frontera??? lo unico que tienen es lo que esta en medio de tijuana y juarez!

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    4. Pendejo de donde son los Arrellano felix, I Vicente Carrillo de Sinaloa pendejo hahaha jajajaja lol gente pendeja que no save nada

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    5. Sinaloense matandondo sinaloense, que gente tan ingona! Matense Bola de mierdas! Dejen el pueblo en paz!

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  14. After all the misery that the Sinaloans heaped on Juarez, I'm glad they got their asses torn up.

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  15. add please many photos

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  16. Y si..Sigue la plebada activa en chihuas..La gente nueva sigue al mil!!

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    1. Te refieres alos sapos que cantan y traicionan a los amigos asta amenasandolos si no cantan me gato se los viola y no pues cantan mad que un loro

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  17. I dont think la linea cares about 2 tons of weed,most likely they were going after the CDS leader.

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  18. so whant happend, didnt they capture el chapo? where is the big difference that it made?

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  19. We are still the war!!!
    -signed out of touch CDS nuthuggers.

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  20. This is in the El Heraldo de Chihuahua.

    http://www.oem.com.mx/elheraldodechihuahua/notas/n3553471.htm

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  21. and that's how cartels are suppose to settle scores. just meet in an empty field and duke it out. leave innocents out of it.

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  22. - Signed , Cheeto Crumbs Taste Better From Under My Third Chin.... Dumbass Cheeto Loving Nuthugger....

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  23. BB commenters have mental problems, take it easy...
    The enemy is the government, federal police, army generals and officers, corrupt lawmakers, governors, state police, the narcs are only fronting for them, AND the US government covers up for mexican corrupt governments because they are partners in crime, in cahoots, for money, from drugs, weapons oil, gambling, agriculture, tourism, extortion, kidnapping, and murdering anybody they want to, the US supports their mexican gorillas with weapons and impunity, the mexican government mortgages the country and steal the money, the narcos kill each other for the table scraps because they are as stupid as ignorant, who would want them to be some college graduate "snobs", in the words of fomer presidential candidate rick santorum...
    --Either that or become police officers, because there can only be so many rich businessmen at the top of the US government sanctioned drug trafficking totem pole...

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    1. Did you missed youredication today?? Or are you high?? All that you wrote and nothing made sense you have no point!!!!

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    2. I think both of guys missed your edication

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  24. Anyone know who was the CDS leader killed?

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  25. "Noo they where cds they where ambushed cds was transporting 2 tons of weed and La linea tryed to steal it"

    What i thought as soon as i read it,trying to rob the load and kill some when you doing it.Who knows what they got away with,some white?Loaded up and bailed leaving some.Who knows?

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  26. "hahaha it was said that some of the killed were wearing vests n tactical gear???? someone show these idiots how to use n wear"

    Dude,they know how to wear tactical gear.Don't worry about that.
    They aint playing tom and jerry,they as real as fuckin cancer and will kill you quicker.

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    1. Indeed.Tires got stuck in the mud and they got slaughtered.They were shot in a frenzy then set on fire.Go back to your xbox.

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  27. Meanwhile Los Avengers are sitting back waiting for there moment

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  28. that fool that says that all the dead were from la linea!!!hahahah you must be another...i shut up now that chapo begs for food and better jacket ciber narco!!! hahahaha,la linea -aztecas,the real cartel! not hide under goverment skirts and not even then cds won the plaza!hahaha wheres viceroy...relaxing,laid back enjoying his millions...wheres chapo!!!hahahah begging for better food in super max!

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  29. hahaha y el chapo,apa!!! thats right...begging for better food and warmer jacket in supermax! while la linea continues to destroy cds remants in chihuahua!!!!!!!!!

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    1. Damn fool you need a life posting the same thing over and over looser. La linia wasent in the shoot out it was zetas and beltranes

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  30. really amazing...i remember when chapo,cds where still under the goverments skirt...man,remember all you cds cheerleaders!!! but now since chapo in super max,begging for better food,warmer jacket and just got a little tv in his cell...and cds just keeps geeting whacked all over mexico...all of a sudden,,,cds lovers...CAT BITE YOUR TOUNGE OR...WTF!!! especially all you cds lovers that would say...la linea is over...la linea esta dando patadas de ahogado...bla,bla,bla...and go to juarez now hatters...aztecas,on the verge of becoming a cartel of its own! do the research,its a fact,they continue loyal to carrillo fuentes...for now...cds,gente nueva and thousands of soldiers,federales...only made la linea aztecas stronger...think its b-s...do your research...cds lovers..go stick your head in a hole,should be ashamed!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. Aztecas are loyal to aztecas They are a prison gang and street gang in the usa they just their own they were like the zetas just the musle to do the dirty work. This guy got all wet just hearing about a shoot out theres no juarez cartel the shoot out was probably zetas or beltran vs gn since zetas and beltran are the obes in juarez not carillos o yeah we gonna get accurate information researching on line lol this guy thinks evrything he reads is real lol

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    2. I agree this cheerleader sits and rants about cheerleaders like hes part of a crew or is pushing weight. Let us know when a cartel pays your bills or feeds your kids ok buddy. Because unless your putting in work or is a plaza boss you ain't shit, just another burrero or wannabe.

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  31. The CIA gave La Linea the info on where to ambush GN. Since GN can't get the job anymore or make a delivery on time the CIA has employed new minions to do the dirty work. Keep the drugs moving north just like master wants. If you can't get it done without detection you will be replaced by those who can. The CIA favors how El Viceroy does business compared to the flashy and flamboyant CDS.

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    1. Lay off the shrooms buddy!

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    2. I'll keep eating shrooms from the earth.You keep stuffing your face with the poison we call food in the US. Pay your taxes so you can drive a chevy and have your bank of america. In the end you'll get cancer and we'll get your every last dollar.You're right,it's absurd to think that the cia runs dope or that they're good at it.I think you're absurd.

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    3. That's not what Millie Vanillie thinks. He/she believes the CIA and the US controls everything.

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  32. Mire gente si no saben que es lo que esta pasando mejor no hablen dejen de comentar pendejada y media. La gente nueva es una porqueria, always blaiming other cartels/gangs for shit they did. Aqui sigue la linea bien parados y continuaremos recuperando chihuas

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    1. Primo no se limpie el cagadero que ustedes los de la linia han echo tambien en chihuas no nomas la gente nueva a echo desmadre ustedes tienen todo el sur este y Centro de de cda juarez para la chingada con sus coutas y secuestros...asi que no diga que nomas en cds....

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  33. why cant the sinaloans grow weed and poppy in their own shitty state? Why go to Chiwas? Why not just pay the fucking quota to the Juarez Cartel? Those sinaloa pendejos charge quota to other smaller groups but they don't want to pay it. They start a fucking war in Mexico to take territory from other cartels AND FAIL MISERABLY multiple fucking times, while our people die and suffer, while our country becomes infamous worldwide FUCK YOU sinaloa pendejos hijos de su puta perra madre!

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    1. Chinga la tuya guey hay estados que necesitan gente que los haga producir pero solo tiene gente sin brain like you nadafaker that's why la gente smart de sinaloa va y los hace producir am I right suckerr???

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    2. You should let your dumb ass brain think before you open your mouth and type idiot evry cartel did it and still does it not only the sinaloa cartel mexico is like it is because of ignorant idiots like you that instead of doing something all you do abd say ih its not our fault its the other people its not the cartel that has been murdering and kidnaping and extorting us its the otger cartel

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    3. Pendejo el Cartel de Tijuana es de Sinaloenses ,El Cartel de Juarez es de Sinaloenses, Los Beltran Leyva son Sinaloenses, hay Sinaloenses que trabajan en el cartel del golfo, hay Sinaloenses en todas las organisaciones hahshaha todos estan bien pendejos piensan que el Cds es el cartel donde estan todos los Sinaloenses nomas porque el gobierno lo llama El cartel de sinaloa hahahahahahahajajajajajajaja

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  34. LOL @ the 1st comment! what a dumbass. you cds fanboys are funny.

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  35. Pa los que quieran saber como esta el rollo... aqui en Phoenix everyone sayin que se chingaron a un tal comandante vaquero jefe de plaza para La Linea, and supposedly Gente Nueva smoked them. I have many friends and relatives from Guachochi, Gpe. y Calvo and from Badiraguato all these ppl are from la sierra and they are all saying the same story.

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    1. Where did they kill him?

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    2. Baja le guey quidate alli en arizona pendejo.no tienes amigos ni familia en guachochi. Vas hablar en englis o espanol...todo esos vatos eren de gn

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  36. I don't think they were transporting a load, it was probably just for personal use. The Mex weed is so booty, you need about 2 tons to get lifted...

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  37. Gabriel Torres, presunto responsable de la masacre registrada en la comunidad de Tónachi.

    CHIHUAHUA, Chih. (apro).- La Fiscalía General de esta entidad consignó hoy ante el Ministerio Público federal a Gabriel Torres Hernández, de 33 años, por su presunta responsabilidad en la masacre registrada en la comunidad de Tónachi, municipio de Guachochi, el pasado viernes 26.

    El detenido fue localizado en unos matorrales cerca del lugar del enfrentamiento donde perdieron la vida 11 presuntos sicarios de grupos antagónicos.

    El sujeto fue encontrado con heridas de bala y la policía le decomisó un arma AK-47.

    Torres Hernández es originario de Batopilas, pero vive en Guachochi.

    El sujeto fue puesto a disposición de la Procuraduría General de la República (PGR), por el presunto delito de portación de arma de fuego de uso reservado al Ejército.

    El detenido fue trasladado a un hospital de la ciudad de Parral, donde se recupera para que el Ministerio Público federal le tome su declaración.

    La Fiscalía General del Estado y el Ejército continúan las investigaciones de los hechos ocurridos el viernes en la comunidad de Tónachi en Guachochi, donde murieron 11 hombres que pertenecían a dos grupos delictivos diferentes; siete de ellos resultaron quemados y de éstos, cuatro totalmente calcinados en cuatro vehículos.

    Desde el pasado viernes, el municipio de Guachochi se encuentra resguardado por agentes de las policías Estatal Única y Federal, así como por elementos del Ejército.
    http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=383373

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  38. Sinaloa fan boys are just mad because they're losing the war. Lol

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  39. After reading the comments from the articles posted within the past month or so, I'm starting to feel embarrassed about being an avid bb reader for the past two years. Great info, terrible comments!

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    1. Quick solution...DONT READ THE POST, or or simply ignore the ones that dont suit your high moral stature.

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  40. We still have the best corridos!!!
    -CDS fan

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    1. You have the "best" corridos, because that's what sinaloas are CANTANTES. Because all they do is snitch. . Son cotorras, puro ozico son..

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    2. El hocicon es usted compa, Aqui este Sinaloense a estado casino 9años encerado y nunca a puesto el dedo y mucho menos se a rajado pa los putasos asi sea a mano libre o a plomasos.
      Para culones y valientes ay en todos los estados y paises no able a lo tonto, si conose algun Sinaloense que sea cotorro pues callelo ala verga ysino mejor callese usted. Agradesco aber nacido Sinaloense y orgulloso de ser MEXICANO.

      Oso Viejo Sinaloa.

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  41. According to foreign media, the Sinaloa Cartel has more presence in the USA than any other cartel, the Sinaloa Cartel is making a big push to dominate the European drug markets, the Sinaloa Cartel has presence in Australia, the Sinaloa Cartel is pushing to dominate the production of cocaine in South America, the Sinaloa Cartel is present in at least 50% of the state of Chihuahua... it really sounds like they're losing the war .. i think NOT.. by the way if you buy that story that El Chapo was arrested back in the beginning of the year, with no shots fired, no official evidence that he was interrogated, no images or footage of him being paraded around like they did to la barbie, treviño morales, mano con ojos, el JJ, and even el Vicentillo, plus the fact that he fled to mazatlan instead of his stronghold in the golden triangle.. if you don't find anything fishy with that story .. if you can't tell that his "capture" was nothing more than an agreement with the government... you are a freakin MORON... you probably still believe that the US fights for the rights of people worldwide out of the kindness of their heart and with no secret agenda or financial gain. MORONS.

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    1. Haha thank you !!! Preach shed more light

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    2. Where are your facts? People like you need to stop thinking gerardo ortiz goes around preaching the truth with his narco fantasias.

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    3. "Haha thank you !!! Preach shed more light"

      Stop replying to your own posts duffus.

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    4. La Genre Nueva is really a cartel of Chihuahua aligned with CDS. CDS probably funds them and their ability to control plazas in Chihuahua. CDJ is really a Sinaloense cartel cotrolled by the Sinaloans Carrillo-Fuentes who get support from Chihuahuense cartels La Línea/Texas connected Barrio Aztecas.

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    5. That is so true

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  42. September 29, 2014 at 10:40 AM
    G.N. does but it's still possible L.L. does too.

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  43. Viva Chuatemoc Chih!! A LA Chingada con LA plebada de Snitchola!!

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  44. @ 6:15AM

    Be thankful you don't see the ones I reject and send to the manure pile.
    we average 60+ thousand views per day, I wish more of the thoughtful, meaningful comments would grow in number.

    There are comments that are informative and good info from the ground...but then, there are the others... :(

    I would like to remind people, to please include the date/time of comments you are responding to, so we will all known who you are addressing it to.

    remember the forbidden N word, C word and the three and 6 letter F word.....

    comments of racism/bigotry are not appreciated wither

    and one word comments like "idiot" "retard" have no value.
    personal attacks also,

    the best comments are those that offer information, or if challenging a point or comments, stick to the subject, by attacking it, not the commenter, state your position, and offer counter proof.

    you guys know. what to do, but the type of comments we are now receiving have taken a downward swing. they are pretty bad.


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  45. "BB commenters have mental problems, take it easy..."
    Oh shit,look who' talking mental problems?Millie the race hater?This is the freak who wishes death on kids because their from the US.

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  46. " I'm starting to feel embarrassed about being an avid bb reader for the past two years. Great info, terrible comments! m"

    Been thinking the same thing.There are more and more idiots who want to rant about the US/CIA(not to mention the hate)than the subject at hand,and looking at these comments here,i cant believe how many shout for this cartel or that whilst undoubtedly belonging to none.

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    1. We don't like racist!

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    2. Look up Barry Seal, Oliver North, Terry Reed, Ismail Rodriguez Felix, Rick Ross, Danilo Blandon before you downgrade anybody ranting about the CIA's/some U.S. govt. officials involvement in drug trafficking. You won't see the drug war in the same light after you learn about these individuals.

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  47. 8:59 AM
    Apparently we are all morons and Chapos arrest was a fake,oh and Lazcano is still alive too.Its all a conkspiwacy of the US weally weally it is

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    1. El Zorro de Ojinaga is alive also Sept 30, 2014 2:34.

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  48. moron...yeah...ok...keep believing that chapo was not arrested...typical cheer leader....thats why since hi sarrest several of his close people continue to be killed....they even cds,tried to take over la pza,damasco and his right hand people,whaT HAPPENED...Pantera got killed,along w- others amd so forth...by the way..chapo DID GET PARADED AROUND B Y THE MEDIA!!! pictures of hime damn near sheading tears on his kness handcuffed while he was taken out the hotel in mazatlan,the mexican marine forcing chapo head down when chapo tried to look at the people...better do your research...MORON...here in mexico we saw it and vast majority are thankful chapo is in super max begging for better food and warmer jacket...cds...nothing but snitches and cowards w-o government help.

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    1. The same thing over and over do you have anything else to say chapo this chapo thst sinaloa are snitches hes begging for food and and jacket. Like for real dude get a life or go cheer for another cartel that actually is powerfull and strong!!! That way you eont be do mad at your hero chapo.

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    2. Oh so now you say chapo was gonna cry...fool please.yeah he got caught it was arranged.and they run la paz wether it be mayos crew or chapos.that hit on pantera was done by who? Answer that...

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    3. And your cartel dont snitch on no one...? And if you say no your full of shit

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    4. Are you mad because chapo didnt call back

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    5. The marine needs to go and arrest the politicians who took his money and protected him. What that marine makes in year, Chapo makes in a minute. His sons, brothers, wives, grandsons still running the cartel.

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  49. 11:45 and 11:50. LMAO

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  50. ... Rewind it back to when Chapo escaped from prison or walked out, that was discussed and approved by someone who is out and about now... Changing of the guards only... Facts... Chapo "never" rolled around without "firm" protection... Will he be extradited to the USA, No... While I'm no hugger, I am not blind as to what has happened, is happening, and will continue to happen when money, drugs and corruption happens... At all levels... Believe That!... Gracias Chivis ....

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  51. Pedro salguiero gn plaza boss dead. Its been confirmed by the state of chihuahua. Also on el paso times.

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  52. Another 8 sicarios are dead in the same guachochi area. Killed yesterday sept 30th

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  53. whats happing down there? is la linea taking out gn or what?

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  54. Chivis you have anymore info thats going on in chihuas??

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  55. Sep 30 @2:11 where has your most beloved and admired said anything about killing US children?
    Your mental problems are carrying you away mil mascaras, along with your multiple personality disorders you are allucinating now, free Pablum for you...

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  56. 2:21 CIA/US involvement in crime and with criminals ISIS widely documented, as is ostriches' habit of sticking their heads where they should not...
    El malinchismo de la pocahontas too, as is the foolishness of those that try to disinform public opinion while expecting everybody to believe their BS.
    --Nobody can deny that after 200 years of friendship with the US, the latin american countries find thenselves holding on to the shitty end of the stick thanks to the politics of the US.
    --And, Oct 1 2014 @1:37 wants to give you a ride to school, he has candy and pennies for you little girl, and a winnie for you alone whiny!!!

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  57. le dimos en su madre al 14 ijo de su pimche madre ce lo kargo la verga nos tiro 130 tiros y no nos dio ni un balazo regresamos a nuestro pueblo sanos y salvos a la verga pinchis gente nueva culera no entienden que la linia somos los meros meros abransen a la verga de guachochi putos atemtanmente la linia putos les dimos baje con todo y les dimos candela a sus trocas nomas se oia como se retorcian los pemdejos se los cargo la chingada les ganamos el jalon a la verga pura liniota y al rato que se calme guacho les damos en la madre otraves putos aarriba la linia putos pura gente de c.........c

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