Wednesday, May 21, 2014

Unity of our leaders: Hipolito Mora, Dr. Mireles and Padre Goyo

Borderland Beat- Translation by Vato


00:21 (Dr. Mireles on microphone) Day before yesterday there were 7 deaths in Morelia, in Uruapan. There were 5 deaths on the highway (autopista). There were 8 more deaths in Jiquilpan; while the government representatives say that they have the State of Michoacan under control, that there is nothing happening. This is the same dispute that we had 15 months ago.

00:40 (Hipolito Mora): All my brothers and all my sisters begged me not to do it. I told them, "I'm going to do it." " They are going to kill us." I used very harsh words when I answered them, and I stand by them. I told them, "I don't care how much it hurts me, if they kill my whole family, but I'm going to start the movement. We have to free ourselves from this fear."

1:06 (Dr. Mireles) I am autodefensa for the reasons that we rose up in arms in Tierra Cliente, because we're looking for direct support from the federal government and the state. So we can have social justice, excellent public security and a fair imposition of justice. That's why I am autodefensa.

1:34 I am Hipolito Mora and I am autodefensa.

1:37 I am Cristobal Alvarez Ramirez, I'm from Apatzingan and I, too, am autodefensa.

1:44 I am Calixto Alvarez Andrade, I am with the La Ruana group of autodefensas.

1:47 I am Francisco Valle, I am from Apatzingan and I am autodefensa.

1:53 I am Father Gregorio Lopez Geronimo,[Goyo] from Apatzingan, I am autodefensa and I watch over the interests of the people, of the nation, not over selfish interests of cartels and other groups, politicians. People for the people.

 2:10 I am Samuel Gomez, autodefensa under my leader Hipolito Mora Chavez, and I can prove it [shows ID card].

2:17 I am Commander Patancha, I am autodefensa and I'm here to serve my people.

2:24
(The group. Dr. Mireles speaks) We are all autodefensas, all of us, but this man is our moral leader [points to Hipolito Mora]. He's the founder, the man with the idea.

He's the one who's brought us all out here, but he's our leader and our founder.

We are all autodefensas."

"A true Mexican Hero"
Another new video..begins with the same intro but is different after that, there is a portion that is in English
And...Commissioner Castillo posted his photo op today, showing all is well with Americano and Hipolito... Look at those happy, happy faces.  Read the comments on Castillo's twitter page.

31 comments:

  1. happy to see this taking place. was much needed. i saw videos of hipolito from some time back and he appears strong and honest and fed up with injustice like mireles

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  2. And "Americano", too?? This is all bizarre.

    http://1aplana.mx/noticias/sucesos/hipolito-mora-y-el-americano-se-unen-por-la-causa/

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  3. excellent move, playing the game with Castillo all the while telling the truth, Castillo must be so confused. it reminds me of the la pais interview. remember Mireles said government deals are theater.

    be careful people, Mireles, and Hipolito will look like they are joining, but only listen to the words they say apart from "the theater" or it will confuse you.

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  4. The Mexican government better wake up and become Auto Defensas! Before its to late! !!

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  5. I thought Americano was the one who accused Castillo of killing his 2 friends? I think Americano is still playing sides.

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    1. Americano still needs to prove who he really is!

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  6. Tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars have been contributed by donors in the United States to Doctor Mireles, but he claims to have not gotten a dime!

    Where has the money gone?

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    1. What's your source for this alleged money ?

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  7. They are laughing in Castillo face on his twitter page because of the photo. I am surprised he leaves the comments up

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  8. mora is accused by el americano of murdering his friend el pollo rostizado, el comandante cinco hindu has his friend el pollo's gold adorned gun, as a trophy, el pollo also had 400 hectares for his agri-business, who has got them orchards? i'm sure the murderer has that under control too...
    other than that, people have shown the cooper, like a cinco hindu, no bronze there practicing the handshaking politics is only until you get stabbed on the back for the last time

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  9. I bet hipolito and americano are trying to break each others hands with that handshake , Castillo and his H3/castillo/smurf/americano/los viagras/ct cartel , will allow Dr Mireles and the AD that are not FR at this time , to operate within certain areas. CT need control of the port of Laz Cardenas , for the incoming shipment of meth amphet precursors from china , in trade for unlawfuly dug iron ore.

    Castillo will keep an iron grip on LC , this was the whole reason for the setup of Mireles at the road entrance to LC and five dead roadblock CT/AD. Tuta cannot continue to pay off Castillo if he doesnt have those precursors coming in and the iron ore going out. The government siezed one load of iron ore out going , the reason ? Tuta didnt pay the cobra demanded by the government for that shipment. Leason learned by Tuta .

    Mireles would be pretty much free to go where ever he likes as long as he doesnt threaten LC. Expect any further attempt by the coastal AD to liberate LC to be met with huge armed resistance , and probably army response too. Since they took over LC to make sure the AD didnt wrest control of the port from La Tuta.

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  10. have to admit was not expecting to see Mora shaking hands with Americano; but I saw the interviews with Adela from a few months ago and I can see honesty in his eyes. He does not seem like the type that will sell out. Heck, he was the one that started the movement from seeing the suffering of so many people. My guess is he is smart and calculating.

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    1. Probably also threatened

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    2. It's obvious the corrupt government is scrambling and pulling all of the strings it can to show everything is ok!

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  11. THERE WOULD BE NO PHOTO OPS WITHOUT THE AD STARTING THIS MOVEMENT ?Now look,it is being hijacked by the government and this fuckin phony Castillo,,EPNs bum chum?
    This is madness,the government did shit for a year while the AD basically freed Michoacan?No wonder people get disillusioned,isn't it clever the way the gob played this?Underhand and grimy,but clever...Now Castillo rides in to the rescue?Give me a fuckin break...

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    1. Yup, whats really going on behind the scenes?

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  12. EPN headed to Tepaltepec today

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  13. weres papa smurf?

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    1. Hiding in tge forrest with Tuta!

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  14. nobody is suppossed to send any money to anybody anywhere if it has not been designated and approved publicly by Dr Mireles, it needs to be kept safe from confiscation by the government, Dr Mireles really should get out of there, if he wants the AD to have any real teeth left.
    --the AD was supported by armed AD, but they had no weapons, for the most part, now that the rural ( as in chundaro ) forces are all set, they would be guarding the real AD executives, but it can't be done because they have sold out...
    --the Dalai Lama, the tibet great visionary leader, has been in the US and all over the world fighting for his country's freedom for many years, he's not gotten anywhere, but at least the appearance of decency is there, and he is alive, he did not get to die in a chinese prison...
    --and the US could go on with the salvation by christianization and capitalist vulture exploitation of the huddled masses of communist slave laborers.
    --the chinese communist in name only regime was able to get the red dragon to fullfill its promise of getting economic power by grabbing the US paper tiger by the tail, spinning it, now slamming it on the concrete, and possibly microwaving it for a grand finale, with all the great technology the wise americans transfer to them chinese self contaminated axis of evil...
    IF Dr Mireles decides to get out of there, he can fight better, dirtier and much longer, he needs not be prissy ass honest, fuck it, at least temporarily; later he can return, his ass don't belong to himself anymore, and the cause requires him to do better, i hope he don't let us down, no more martyrs needed...

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  15. --if epn gets to tepeque le van a rayar toda su reputisima madre que lo pario, sin pecado concebida, con el indio que le cortaba el zacate...
    --i hope he gets some eggs and rotten tomatoes thrown, and a few "potatoes" up the ass...
    --que chingue su madre el pinche copete del misterioso "champuuu"

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  16. He better, if he's serious about Mexico! Maybe he's finally realizing this could be the defining moment of his presidency!

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  17. To the Banned One
    Those who collected for autodefensas in the US were not connected in anyway. I asked them to prove where the money went and they would not answer, so I would not support it.

    Today on Social Media they say Dr M has a personal FB page. Many have claimed this and some asking for money, none have been connected to him. As for the one promoted today I am waiting for a confirmation or rejection.

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  18. NOTICE:
    Mireles finally created his first FB page. He has never been association with any of the others claiming so. Here it is

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dr-Jos%C3%A9-Manuel-Mireles/1442247889356796

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  19. why stop at one? you should ban the other losers on forum. In fact why not close it down?

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  20. DR MIRELES puts his ass on the line, in person, where it counts, since the start...
    --his detractors on BB, about whom I CARE, do not even put their name on the line, no program, can't even state their agenda, they behave like some sick motherless puppies...
    --there is a big difference between one and the other, any idiot can see it, except for the bitter and the obtuse from the obstinately obtuse armies...

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  21. @5:11 i think the one is the first and only one, that is how evil his ass is, there are some other people, they may be even worse but there was a limit, reached at the wrong time by the banned one, i promise i'll keep doing my part about others, but i promise i'll never ask for anybody to get banned out of here, even if i could, i refuse to sink that low, i'd rather just go and stay away... like a man, you know?

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  22. corrupt politicians are the reason mexico is where it is. They support the cartels because they get their share from there. With autodefensas winning and the media showing all this propaganda, the politicians had to act like they support the autodefensas. Once they kill plancarte and el chayo, now the politicions are asking the autodefensas to put their weapons away, why?? Is it because they know that once the autodefensas finish with the templarios the next corruption in the autodefensas view would be the politicians. Yes, that is it. That is why now the politicians are tring to infiltrade the autodefensas and divide them, because once the autodefensas are divide, their power strugle is focus on themselfs and not at the politicians. Autodefensas, please do not fall for that plan from the goverment, do not trust the mexican corrupted officials. They are only looking to proctect their business and themselfs. They are afraid of you because they know that if you dont stop, their corrupt power will be taking away. DO NOT BELIVE YOUR GOVERMENT.

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  23. Americano is from el paso and everyone knows that car dealers on alemeda st. are working for the drug cartel!!!!

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    1. Don't buy cars on Alameda st if you want a better Mexico!!!!

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  24. la mama del americano era teibolera en los pepitos en Cd Juarez, acabo regalandolas por la mariscal...
    youtube: la traicion del "Chayo"/Ruana Libre,2013
    anonymous warning "el chayo about his "friends", who went from betraying los zetas to betraying la familia michoacana, especially the big boss, el chango mendez vargas, cousin uncle and friend to many caballeros templarios, who are said to have owed to El Chango millions of dollars, and properties, and the question is asked to el chayo about traitors:
    "...what can you expect from traitors, don chayo?"
    well, now El Chayo knows, el kike plancarte knows, and el pollo, one of the first to jump ship to the ct, knows, Dr Mireles is very right to not want to associate with any former ct whether reformed or not, walk away at least as far as satying with the people that are true to him and his cause, others will enjoy their triumphs for a while, the guns of their "friends", their property and their women, i hope we get to know who pairs up with el papa smurf's wife, she must be a real looker...

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