Sunday, May 25, 2014

Tijuana: Death Threat Against Singer Gerardo Ortíz Appears on Banner

Chivís Martínez for Borderland Beat
Danger is persistent for singers who sing the so-called narco corridos.  Killings and warnings are a part of the business against those who sing about the "heroics" and glorification of drug traffickers.  

Murders and threats of death from rival groups, such is the case in point that singer Gerardo Ortiz faces, having received several death threats in the past, another presented itself yesterday, displayed in a narco manta (banner).

The singer was scheduled to perform at the Plaza Monumental de Tijuana, when the image of Manta appeared via  social networks.   The manta was quickly removed by authorities.

The message conveyed a demand that he not sing any songs for 'El Achilles' and /or his brother ‘La Rana', otherwise he will be killed.  The text was signed by LA MAÑA .

 In 2011 suffered an armed attack in which his representative and driver were killed.

Manta Text (by Tijuano who says he could not see it very clearly)

ORIGINAL TEXT
GERARDO ORTIZ, NO TIENES
GUARDAESPALDA AQUI EN TJ
NO TE ENREDES AQUI
ALA VERGA EL AQUILES Y
LA RANA. TJ TIENE DUEÑO
CANTAS UNA DE ELLOS Y TU
NO SALES VIVO 

ATTE: LA MAÑA 

TRANSLATION:
GERARDO ORTIZ, YOU DON´T HAVE BODYGUARDS HERE IN TJ, 
DON´T MESS AROUND HERE.
FUCK EL AQUILES AND LA RANA. 
TJ HAS AN OWNER. 
YOU SING ONE FOR THEM AND YOU 
WON’T MAKE IT OUT ALIVE. 

SINCERELY,  "LA MAÑA"



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108 comments:

  1. Hope they do kill him, then we targer komander, clean all this movimiento alterado sht. Viva los corridos viejos.

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    1. For a minute there I thought I wrote this comment..but yes Gerardo Ortiz and Comander are the worse singers outhere,they suck balls.

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    2. Your so pathetic, staying that they are the suck.... why do they huh just because they have the balls to sing what really goes on!

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    3. Lol half the crap they sing isnt even about the things that are happening in mexico. Most of it is about the luxury and wealth about the narcos ( cds for example) and how the sicarios act and the things they do and the weapons etc...

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    4. Well don't like it don't listen to it simple as that dumb ass F.U.

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    5. Well don't like it don't listen to it simple as that dumb ass F.U.

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    6. Its fucked up they got to threaten him. You dont like it dont listen. No te gusta el cancion no la oien.. tambien dios de ve cavar la vida asi la vida se ba cavar tambien. Solo diosito sabe.. only god knows .. its messed up

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    7. I think that if people don't like his music or corridos!!! don't listen to it....its like anything else people make a living out of Music or being attorney people do whatever they have to do for a living

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    8. Fuck all those who say they hate him nd hope he dies....cuz u wish u were him with all the money, fam, girls and living the life��

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    9. Well I dont hate Gerardo Ortiz, but I honestly think his music isn't great. Chalino could beat him and el komander even tho he will be always el rey de corrido

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    10. Fuck everyone who says that gerardo ortiz sucks ar singing!!!

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    11. Dont you guys know what the fuck is going on in mexico innocent people are dieing i have family over there who afraid to leave their house because of it the drug shit over there is horrible and for someone to sing about and killing people so highly like really?? You are cool!!! And for everyone to say just dont listen to it and so on. You guys are damn ignorant take your happy asses over there aver como les va estupidos!!

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  2. With as many songs as he sings about capos, specifically from CDS - and specifically Aquiles Afirmo, I'm surprised he hasn't suffered any more attempts on his life since that almost took his life in
    2011. Like the old saying goes -when you play with fire, you will get burned. Whoever put the narco mensage probably isn't to much of a threat, although you can't take threats lightly, since the group that put the mantra didn't sign it. Maña is
    another way of saying criminals, mafia, etc. I will say this though. The last thing Gerardo Ortiz would want is to become part of the long list of Grupero artists who succumbed to a violent death. Singers like Valentine Elizalde, Chalino Sanchez, Selena, to name just a few.

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    1. we all know who the maña is its the arrellanos thats how they call themselves too

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    2. Wtf selena? She has nothing to do with any narco stuff. She died from shot by one of her "so called friends" that was incharged of her sales for merchandise( something like that) and selena had to fire her because she wasnt doing things correctly and so that lady shot her in the back because she felt betrayed by selena. Also valentin elizalde die from being killed by ppl from cdg ( back when cds was fighting cdg) he sang a song called * a mis enemigos* which was a song from cds to cdg. Chalino sanchez death is a bit unknown, some say because a certain songs he sang were about narcos in Sinaloa and an he was threated to not sing them, which is why at his last concert he was picked up by a strange group of people and next morning found dead with bulet wounds to his head, another story is that one of his family members (female) was kidnapped and so chalino ended up finding that person and killed him and so his death, was basicly revenge from the family of the guy he killed (narco related). But please never again mention Selena in narco related stuff he had nothing to do with this crap.

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    3. Supposedly it was el chapo who ordered the death of chalino sanchez.

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    4. And where did you hear this from??

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    5. Yea it wasnt chapo who ordered the hit, dont begin with kissing up to chapo.

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    6. @7:14 You're right. Selena's death wasn't attributed to narco violence. But if you look at what I wrote a little closer, I didn't say her death was narco related. I said her death was attributed to violence nonetheless at the prime age of 23. She was a member of the same community of artists who have succumbed to narco deaths in more recent times. The same attitude of settling conflicts with violence, or more appropriately gun violence, is what caused her death as well as Valentine Elizalde, Chalino Sanchez and many lesser known artists.

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    7. @12:31..its possible,Chalino has many Mafia ties to Cosala region in Sinaloa,and he might even be somehow related to Javier Torres.Back in the day Chalino didn't really sing any songs from Badiraguato region,it was mainly people from Cosala and Culican region(mainly people he knew personally or through close acquaintance.

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    8. @8:52 I heard it from a very good source. And im not kissing up to chapo, thats not what i meant. So if you claim it was not el chapo then who ordeted it according to you? I wanna hear your nonsense.

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    9. Balta Diaz fue el que ordeno la muerte de Chalinopor asuntos de mujeres

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    10. Some guy name waldermar killed chalino and then jt killed waldermar..... Another story says that arellano killed chalino. So whoknows, for sure it wasnt chapo

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    11. Estan bien pendejos Jesus Albino Quintero Mato a chalino Sanchez porque le debia dinero y con la mafia no se juega.

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    12. My point exactly it could have not been chapo. Since chalino was related to el jt.

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    1. She sang to los colombianos

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    2. Selena was shot but some dumb female, he said violent death , not narco death

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    3. You guys are such dumbasses Selena sang on a group called Cumbia Kings ( Cumbia being a type of music) having no remote relation whatsoever to any type of narcos. She was a good girl who was just starting her career!

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    4. Cumbia kings really? Wow.That's the group her brother started way after she died! She played with los dinos. Selena y los dinos!

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    5. Cumbia kings really get ur shit right before u look like an idiot

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    6. @12:02 your so right it was Selena y Los Dinos wtf are u serious kumbia kings dats ab Quintanilla band LMAO

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    7. BWAHAHAHAHA! HAY CABRONES.

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  4. EL GALLO DE TIJUANAMay 25, 2014 at 4:10 PM

    i guess afo have structured fully and didnt appreciate the alquiles manda aqui oh la rana aqui manda ya saben quien manda aqui el ingeniero y su medio hermano y las estructuras del melvin que lla esta por salir gracias alos metiches de la noticias que grabaron como fue detenido el melvin sintener detencion en la baja norte

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    1. Wrong if afo was even around they would had sent him a message personslly or hit him already and left a banner with his dead body but you know afo/caf is dead so there you go gallina de tijuana keep wishing!

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    2. afo/caf dead? u crazy fool go to tijuana they control my friend u just dont know and talk out of your ass

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    3. Caf is still around and still doing business, they made a truce with cds, but they still have to pay cds (quota). But there are a few small groups in TJ who think they are in control but most arent caf related.

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  5. So know we know who attempted againts his life in 2010 or 2011 so i guess afo has presence and hitmen outside of tijuana and all over the baja i thought the dea said they were done and had no teeth or CAVITIES something like that but afo has been fully restructed since 2009 thats why muletas and teo ran out of tijuana and sold there asss to chapo and mayo i see chapo is really incharge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. It wasnt caf who did the attempt backin 2011, it was los zzzz.

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  6. Bs Caf is dead.. G. O. Was ther he sang cds songs nothing happend.. Estos mugrosos les hace daño vivir en los cerros.. Luego luego les sale la envidia

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  7. Caf always been around, they were just reconstruction. Chapos people are jumping the bandwagon with ingeniero.

    I read a comment here on bb from big sur saying cholo was rumored in Tijuana, I just heard the same, but he's not back as cholo, he has a clave, he left a message a while back to them tienditas that owed him money. As gerrardo Ortiz fuck him. Tijuana 10-5

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    1. 2 weeks ago el cholo was at a party from one lady that works for the gov and represents la sanchez toabada. El cholo kept.on asking for his corridos al estilo norteno and was doing lines of coke with no shame

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    2. Lol they reconstructing and letting others take over do tunnels and sell and transport dope yeah reconstructiong lol

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    3. Ingeniero uses those Tunnels. Ingeniero is pretty smart, now Caf starts moving forward and yes reconstructed.... Mayo won't fight the plaza, cds is disorganized, ent kno who is with who. Cds lost Juarez and now they'll be leaving tijuas soon... Anthrax is done. !

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  8. ESTO ERA ESPERADO GENTE EL ORTIZ ES FALSO CANTA DE CORRIDOS PERO NO TIENE SANGRE DE CABRON NO ME DARA SORPRESA SI UN DIA LE LLEGE LA MUERTE SALUDOS DE CALI PURA GENTE DEL CHAPO

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  9. ESTO ERA ESPERADO GENTE EL GERARDO ORTIZ ES FALSO NOSE COMPARA CON EL COMPA KOMANDER KE SI TIENE RESPETO EN LA CIUDAD Y EN SER CANTANTE NO ME DARA SORPRESA SI LE LLEGA LA MUERTE UN DIA AL G ORTIZ -SALUDOS DE CALI AMIGOS!

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  10. Tijuana es Municipio Sinaloense .....Los Arellanos andan de perros plazeros Mandaron Matar ese Pulmon en Peru por 50mil dolares ...No mamen El Ingeniero es Garbanzo de a Kilo y Su Salvadoreño Hermano Melvin Igual

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    1. He said "his brother the salvadorian" lol.

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  11. He's garbage n he's a pussy just like all snitchloas .he ran to the u.s after the zetas shot him up he left his cousin dead there wat a Lil pussy

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    1. He was born and live in the usa. So of course he went home lol

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  12. Viva, la, familia#!!

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  13. Chillando le.a.su madresita.. Aquiles afirmó el.18E la clave sige en uno.. OCHE ,en 11.. Desifren quien sepa.hora.118% vien enfermos

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  14. Well he sang Mono verde Aquiles afirmo & not a damn thing happened. "Perro que ladra no murde"

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  15. Para mi que esta Vien que Austen a eso mensa cannabis pendejadas que le escriven que cante que 90/. Son mentiras exageradas para convenser ala genre que son Chingones asta mas que rambo y ala ora de la hora son unos cobardes. Estoy corridors de estoy tiempo son mentira y Alban de cuanto dinero tienen y viejas pero no ablan de virtudes que tiene un hombre como los corridos de antes. Estuaries vien que a t odos estos que cantan corridos les a fan lo mismo aver si la musical se compone para no escuchar tontadas Cada ves que priendo el radio.!!!! Real

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    1. Regresa al kinder idiota,haver si aprendes a escribir tarugo

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  16. Los Senores de Sinaloa aprovaron el concierto.Va a ver un grupo opertaivo Antrax.Un comando de las Fuerzas Especiales Damaso y grupo de guardaespaldas de los Talibanes protegiendo al Gerardo Ortiz pa que cante corridos a los de Sinaloa
    CDS SPECIAL FORCES.....

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    1. Haha sure! !!

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    2. Fuerzas especiales Damaso? Si todos saben que el tal Damaso relajó a su padrino el Chapo, cuando Chapo lo quiso desheredar cuando se dio cuenta que al Damaso le hacía agua la canoa y le aflojaba las amalgamas al Chinito Antrax. Fuerzas especiales
      Damaso, si como no ja ja ja ja, si todos saben que se la loncha.

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  17. andale gerardo ortiz sigele cantando alos sinaloas aki en tijuana aver si no te levantan en esta el caf anda activo

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  18. sincerely la maña! thats arellano felix words all their songs always say arriva la maña

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  19. It was his first concert outside the US since that colima attempt right?

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  20. Just for the record, he did NOT sing any corrido about Rana or Aquiles, A lot of friends of mine went to his concert and he just didn´t do it.

    I don´t know who put the banner, if we guide ourselves by the wording, then yes, it does look as something CAF would have written(TJ has an owner, that´s a recurrent CAF line, La Maña, that´s how they call themselves too). BUT, we simply don´t know.

    If the threats were real or not, I don´t think Gerardo Ortiz wants to find out, after his previous attack, and having as examples Valentin Elizalde and countless others, I don´t blame him.

    Now about sending the message directly to him, you gotta understand this might be a message to someone else and not to Gerardo, let´s say its a way of saying "You don´t have the control your corridos claim you do over TJ".

    Anyway, I´m happy nothing happened, Tijuana doesn´t need that kind of press.

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    1. Yea all the new corridos are full of shit! All garbage

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  21. All the records I bought back in the day said Selena y los Dinos...I thought Kumbia Kings were formed after her death by her brother AB. Anyway, this is karma for Gerardo Ortiz, as he has been threatening to kill people with his music for years now. I'll bet there are more than a few suicides attributed to accidentially turning the radio on with him singing and not being able to turn the radio off before driving into the nearest telephone pole at full speed to make it stop !!

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  22. Went to the concert at the fair in Santa Rita in Chihuahua last night. I was enjoying the concert and about the 7th song in they started singing the Corrido's. It is against the law to sing these Corrido's in Chihuahua. But they all do. They just pay the fine. the law does not stop any of them from singing them. The older people and the well dressed people do not seem to mind. You would think the mature and real working class of people would not condone music that is getting many young Mexican people killed. I do not know too many senior citizens or business people that condone rap music that glorifies gangster style life. But they do not seem to mind corrido's that get their own people condone killed.

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  23. It's funny how people be saying that in Tijuana there is no more AFO, but they live in Texas. Really people if you really want to think CAF is dead go ahead, that;s what they want ''Menos ruido y mas accion'' Thats their motto, the wealthy families from Tijuana form a large part of the CAF, Hank for example so don't think Sinaloa can come in and out of Tijuana like nothing because AFO's roots are also part of Tijuana's wealthy society;s roots. Most parts of Tijuana are STILL controlled by AFO, and Sinaloa DOES, read good, DOES get taxed whether you 'movimiento alterado' fans like it or not. Sinaloa IS in Tijuana, but does NOT control it.
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    And NO, Gerardo Ortiz did NOT sing Aquiles or Mono Verde
    He DID NOT!
    So people that live outside Tijuana and get their info from a 6th person, don;t talk like your so sure, it is ok to comment and share your opinion, just don;t talk like you are the head of the cartels because you just make a fool of yourselves. Saludos Tijuano.

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  24. @7:44am si? y donde estaban los talibanes, los antrax, las ridiculas fuerzas especiales damazo cuando agarraron al enano e impotente sexual de su jefe el chapo guzman? ya dejense de chaquetas mentales. tanto narco corrido te tiene el cerebro hecho mierda.

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  25. Arriva el 5-5, el Inge, la ene, la maña y los aretes. Mr quintero likes ingeniero style of working. Don't expect nothing to happen, till Felix Gallardo passes away. Maybe just maybe quintero will push or let Inge work in Tijuana.quintero is not please with cds, did not like the hit they did on la pancha. Pancha was back cuz quintero is back. And just a matter of time blo pushes mayo out of cds. Guzman new generation= Ivan and alfrefido.

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  26. La maña is the zetas..thats one of their nickname.

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  27. fuerzas especiales damazo, que pinche ridicules es esa. ese pinche mocoso donde a peleado? no es mas que un pinche narco-junior que vive de la fama de los narco corridos perdorros que le hacen. ya lo quiero ver peleando en laredo, victoria, juarez, morelos, guerrero, piedras negras etc.

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  28. My question is why the attempt to kill him in colima? Who is there that would send that message. Anyone know?

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  29. Pa q sepan ala mafia se le apoda MAÑA bola de pe dejos o se le dise LA MAÑ O GENTE y a ese we q dise q a valentin elizalde lo mato el c.d.g tas pendejo lo mataron LOS ZETAS EL HUMMER se lo quebro por aver cantado esa cansion AMIS ENEMIGOS q sale siendo cansion del chapo guzman y a el gerardo ortiz ya mero lo mataban aya en colima pero se escapo pero a su primo RAMIRO CARO se lo quebraron al hermano de regulo caro ya q el iba con gerardo ortiz al momento d ese atentado pues solo dios y ellos saben los problemas q traen entre ellos y nadamas eyos
    Atte EL MICHOACANO 4

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  30. I have a feeling, Edgardo Leyva Escandon would show his pretty boy face up in this.

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  31. --Don neto fonseca carrillo's nephews, the carrillo fuentes were the first to go, after fucking up pablo acosta in Ojinaga and former DFS rafael guajardo, seems like don neto was there first, before miguel angel felix gallardo...and the first with amado carrillo fuentes to move it by the plane-loads into the US...
    --miguel angel felix gallardo, surely learned something, his nephews, the arellano felix really outdid themselves, taking tijuana and then the US with the help of uncle Jesus "don chuy" Labra Aviles, and TAESA airlines, Jorge Hank Rohn and the Atracomulco group of super-rich chilangos...
    --el chapo was suppossed to stay home in el ranchito, selling oranges and waiting for caro quintero to come home...
    --definitely, new leaders will emerge, good at presenting the case for plata o plomo to everybody, and respectul of the leadership, which do not include politicians, police or the likes

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  32. 2:53 PM
    "a few suicides attributed to accidentially turning the radio on with him singing and not being able to turn the radio off before driving into the nearest telephone pole at full speed to make it stop !!"
    LOL

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  33. please explain what does these words mean:

    "afo" ?
    "cafo" ?
    "cumbia" ?

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    1. Afo= arellano felix organization
      cafo=cartel arellano felix org.
      cumbia= mexican music other than tejano music..but cumbia music is when u dance, skake, and more

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    2. Who are you? English Zeta! Lmao

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  34. pero...si puede cantar el corrido de Damaso...

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  35. Damaso has nothing to do in tj!

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  36. miguel angel felix gallardo, federal police, DFS agent, wearing the charola, is blamed for the death of Don Pedro Aviles at the hands of police in sinaloa, for the benefit of MA Felix gallardo, don chuy Labra Aviles, seemingly did not object to the murder of Don Pedro Aviles, and kept representing, working for felix gallardo, no wonder he ended up in prison, like all chaqueteros...
    afo = arellano felix organization
    cafo = cartel arellano felix organization
    cumbia = a musical genre, colombian style is very famous, and like much central american tropical music well liked around in mexico and the caribbean region, the cultural exchanges facilitate the party spirits that move much of the social interchanges behind drug trafficking, with another example being the renewed appreciation for mexican music El Mexicano brought to Colombia, whose telenovela La Hija DEL Mariachi is one of the most successful telenovelas ever on all the american continent.

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    1. Orale WikiPedro!..where do u get your nonsence from chaquetero!?

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  37. Just like in chih, where cdj/linea roots where strong, so is afo roots deep in tj,too think otherwise is being straight ignorant!!

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    1. Afo and their roots are dead they are a thing of the past!

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  38. Thirty five years ago My cousin kicked a Supertramp's fan's ass for bad mouthing Waylon Jennings. Got us all night jail in Harris County. In the cooler the Supertramp fan got his ass kicked again when the rest found out what he was in for.

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  39. La Maña aka Los Zetas,La Compañia,La Ultima Letra

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    1. Why do yall want to kill Gerardo Ortiz?

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    2. No seas mamon aka en las bajas no hay trato con LA mugre compa!!

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  40. 3:51 hey wiki-petra, from Believe It Or Not! a viper's nest of chaqueteras, expert on the art but more famous for CACHUCHERAS...

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  41. The Person Who Said He Should Be Dead -__ Fuqk Yhu . !

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  42. Really!!!!!? So many ignorant people ! Corridos are just real life story same thing you read on the news paper or on tv on the news, its the same thing as rap. If you dont like an Artist why do you have to be all up in there business?? Just let them do there job and satisfy there fans. If they compose and sing corridos thats there business,and does not mean there involved with any organization!!
    JR

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  43. Haters will hate obviously.
    But thay sucks that they want to kill him. How scary but hes good. He has good songss. Haters just dont want to see him grow because they KNOW alot of people will buy tickets to go see him!

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  44. I love Gerardo Ortiz and I hope every thing goes well :).... I ope nothinh happens to him he's my fav artists and ilwill be fuck what every body else to him a la vega todos los que no le gusten gerado ortiz .... vayan a chingar a su madre

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  45. All you people are a whole bunch of dumbasses why argue when you dnt even know whats going on have u been shot at did you shoot gerardo the first time do you know the people that tried to shoot him are they ur neighbors thats rite u listen to the news and now you know whats happening COME to mexico and find out urself.

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  46. And the fucker did show up to sing. SMH!

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  47. Write your feelings out, so the whole world can read your next action.. just read and stfu...

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  48. todos ustedes son unos idotas ablandon tonterias de la M eso NUNCA es un tema de redes sociales....

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  49. Puro fuersas especiales damaso

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  50. Honestly I think Gerardo Ortiz isn't great on his music except for some love songs he has. Just that his corridos are completely trash unlike Chalino Sanchez. He has to do something before someone kills him. At the end, he will pay for his consequences

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  51. Si senor yo soy del rancho--- kommander and Gerardo ortis are the best singer fuck the zetas...

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    1. Nahh they're not the best singers. Chalino is always the best singer sin dudas

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  52. Estas loco Chalino no cantaba sino mujia.....Sergio Vega estaba mas entonado Que chalino

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  53. Viva Torres Felix

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  54. Viva el chino
    Viva sinaloa
    Viva el 11
    Viva chalino
    Viva CDS

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  55. POOR GUY! <3 I LOVE A FEW OF HIS LOVE SONGS! GLAD I LIVE IN THE USA! MEXICO SCARES THE LIVING HELL OUT OF ME! LMAO

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  56. ja ja ja. think before you said anything stupid, El gobierno manda, nomas los deja ser a todos los narcos hasta ke se artan de ellos(segun sea el presidente) ya ke se llenan las bolsas de feria y se les acaba su mandato dejan a los narcos en paz. (translate this if you like) EL SUPREMO GOBIERNO MANDA. ja ja ja.

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