Tuesday, May 13, 2014

Message: Residents of La Mira to Papa Smurf

Mr. Estanislao Beltrán, you came to La Mira, Michoacán and its surrounding areas with your autodefensas, which were arrested by federal forces on Friday, May 9; the residents of the region ask a great question: Why did you come?  To deceive the people?  For vacation?  To eat seafood and swim in our beaches?  Many were confused, many feel used and many also say: “You see the autodefensas are a bunch of crooks”.

What is going to happen now?  You came with your commotion in you trucks, you gathered the people in the plaza of La Mira, you illusion them, you give them hope and worst of all, you expose them in front of people from different classes who were there, all of a sudden, you take your autodefensas in an operation, you create chaos, confusion, people fall back in fear and you, where are you?  You didn’t even leave dust.  The official version says that they were false autodefensas bla bla bla; but Mr. Papa Smurf, you brought them, you came with them, you patrolled with them, you went to the beach with them; the more the people try to understand what happened, it only creates more confusion.

Who is in charge of security in this region now?  The people are afraid ever since the day of the operation, in which a psychosis was created, no one knows who to care for; what’s going to happen to the people who shared their problems in the square?  Remember the people that said to you:

“Now that the match is lit don’t leave us on our own, because our life is in danger as of now”.

The people are angry because you honestly burned with the village, remember when the people also said:

“We want Mireles because we know you but we have more confidence in him, out there they say that you have a problem with him but we want you to bring him”

And you answered:

“Of course I’ll bring him, we don’t have any problems with each other, they are only rumors, we are friends”

And days later it was known that they overthrew Mireles as spokesperson and autodefensas; where was the great friendship you said you had?  Lies, you only brought lies.  There are many points to discuss, what I can tell you is that the streets are empty, the people don’t go out, there is no type of federal security, not even autodefensas, you only left your sandbags that are disturbing the movement in Acalpican de Morelos and a bunch of junk in La Mira.

And now what will happen to us?

You deceived and betrayed the people Papa Smurf, you armed your circus and used us.

Note: I also forgot to mention that in the operation in La Mira where at least 187 (others say 123) [false] autodefensas were arrested, El Chivo, another leader of the Caballeros Templarios was also arrested without a single shot being fired (It was previously reported that there was a shootout between each group).

To read about 'El Cinco''s version of the leadership split click here


Sources: Milenio


48 comments:

  1. Now I'm really confused. Can someone please clarify what exactly happened in La Mira. What group was arrested? Smurfs or Mireles. And what happened to those arrested? Finally what's the latest news about CAM. Did the blockade start?

    Thank You,

    ESB

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    1. Don't you know how to read???

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  2. Someone Needs To put a Hot One In Papa Smurfs Helmet. I'd love to See the Dr get some Sweet Justice on this Trader.

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  3. I read somewhere that 34 communities still support Mireles and did not have a vote to remove him as spokesperson and see images of Papa Smurf flooding news and social media. Where are the ADs in support of Mireles? Have they held any assemblies and documented their position? Papa Smurf and Americano have the resources and support of the Mexican Govt. Mireles and AD Leaders and members should gather to confirm their allegiance to each other and denounce what Smurf and Americano are doing. It has to be formal and reported on to counter the misinformation. Arriba Dr. Mireles y las Autodefensas que no se venden ni venden al pueblo!

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  4. part of Cinco's account reads true, i can see Mireles rushing to confront the checkpoint, that the checkpoint could have innocents forced to be there, and that Mireles was acting on his own and unwilling to consider anything but what he thinks is right, he was already running his mouth more than was strategically feasible ....that said, i don't think he's guilty of murder, but maybe of collateral damage in the fog of war. he wasn't left much choice considering he was surrounded by traitors and criminals posing as allies....Cinco's story is plausible, unfortunately if not taken in its complete context, it might be enough to get Mireles locked up given the Govts role in protecting their Michoacan money stream....damn, its getting to where i want Tuta to win if it means that smurf, Simon, and Castillo lose...at least Castillo has had the good sense to not acquire a moniker, or maybe he does have one: SATANAS DISFRASADO COMO ANGEL DE LUZ

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    1. Cincks vrother there? What the fuck was he there for in the first place? Cinco conveniently left alot of the reavlstory out!!! Cinco sold out just like Judas Smurf, and Porky Pig Americano!

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  5. Michoacana are now worse off than before February 2013.

    Now they have zero ability to express themselves without consequences, that because of a handful of traitors who aligned themselves with greed, the gob, the enemy, those people are now in power.

    Leaving the people confused, fearful and no where to turn without a perceived consequence.

    They are now controlled in the grip of terror and betrayed by those who promised them security and peace was in the horizon if only they would pick up arms and help with the fight against evil.

    People in the US read US newspapers which is not based on information from stomping the beat, talking to the people. It is whatever comes of the AP feed, canned news, false impressions, it is about the story, not about the truth.

    Dr Mireles is the only trusted character in this scenario. He is honest, almost to a fault. Sometimes I wish he would hold back, not lie, just hold back. But that is not his way, and that is what people love. He did not surround himself with the criminal element. Smurf did. That was all telling.

    As much as we know, Valor and I also get confused, and without our direct line to Dr Mireles somethings would hand as a question in our minds.

    Like the so called trophy photo, and the bogus story. I was immediately sent the foto to see for myself. and for you to see and be your own judge.

    The poor people of Michoacan probably will not try for change again for years to come.

    I cannot imagine what it would be like to live their lives.

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    1. Chivis, Your reporting has been awesome from the beginning!!!! This movement has had at least one honest voice with you, unlike the other news outlets. ( Televisa). I gotta say when it wasn't popular some of us readers called out Papa Smurf & Americano! I'm sure Dr Mirales had his reasons on why he chose to defend them, but from the outside looking in we could just see from body language and their actions that those guys would one day turn on him! Letting ex cartel members was a huge mistake. At least Dr Mirales & Hipolito stayed honest and beacuase of that honesty Mexico has true leaders for the revolution! At least for the current politicians in power! Its to late for EPN and the current Michoacàn politicians to save face. They will be on the losing end of history. I truly believe thay may win all the battles, but they will never win the war!!! Hearts and minds win wars and they have fucked that up. Greed and blatant corrution will do them in! Having the population in fear will work against them! Be ready for mass censorship! Dr Mirales & Hipolito, you and the brave men and women that have sacrificed so much for this movement " it is not in vain. we are thinking of you in our prayers" Thank You!

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  6. That is not true at all.
    He came hours later and was at a meeting 1 hrs and 45 min away with 380 people.

    Smurf and 5 etc were there the entire time.

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    1. I agree with you. Dr. Mireles probably feels frustrated. It's hard for him alone to make things right.
      It's like him against Mexico. I'm proud he has courage and face a ight he might unfortunately not win.

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    2. Yes he will! His movement is clean!

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  7. the people are supporting Mireles 100%
    but now can do nothing, if they do, they are arrested.
    how long will there be rurales? I hear 3 years and I hear 5.

    it looks like they are going to be challenged in the courts, that it was installed unilaterally by fuasto which cannot be done. but by the time that happens they will be defunct, time expired. but not before the government turns on its "leaders.

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    1. The Rurales are the criminals from La Familia that used the cover of AD! In time they will get exposed along with all of the politicians that cover for them!

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  8. Chivis i was at the reunion in La Mira its was the most people that showed up out all the towns "were taken"by ADs,over 3000 pitufo said he was going to help us....wrong again. Ever since the road block incident were 5 kids in chukiapan we dont trust any ADs those kids were from here la mira,killed in cold blood, then Doc Mireles took that nice picture whith one guy that was dead for what 3hours you say wen a dead starts geting realy stiff in less than an hour???...why would he even go near a crime scene??? A mug shot please thats wat he said "Doc" so you sit up a dead body to take his picture??? Dont make any sence... And now pitufo whith his lies puting alot of peoples life at risk anybody that went to talk to smurf that sunday left the town is dead thats what Autodefensas came to my town for kill us and lie to us Fuera Mireles Fuera Pitufo y sus aliados
    Att La Mira. Michoacan

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    1. You! Are a troll and just want to smear dirt on Mirales! How much did you get laid for thos post? You think you speak for La Mira? Whats your agenda?

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  9. Templario Mayor yesterday tried to go back to post now that AD's gone. They egged him and the Federal Police had to rescue him.

    http://www.lajornadamichoacan.com.mx/2014/05/13/a-huevazos-impiden-el-retorno-del-edil-de-aguililla/

    Today, he's arrested:

    http://www.cambiodemichoacan.com.mx/nota-224232

    Tancítaro rejects Fuerza Rural:

    http://www.milenio.com/policia/Aguacateros-PF-Tancitaro-ejercito-elite_0_295170493.html

    So does El Bajío:

    http://1aplana.mx/noticias/michoacan/autodefensas-salen-a-las-calles-a-exigir-su-permanencia-en-los-reyes/

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  10. anyone with half a brain can see that govt allied with smurf and americano are behind the so called trophy photo...at the first glimpse of the photo i could tell it was not what they are portraying it to be. Mireles, las autodefensas y lideres en Michoacan necesitan congregarse y denunciar lo que intentan hacer Papa Pitufo, El Americano y gobierno. Buscan crear division y destituir al Dr. Mireles para despues dar un fuerte golpe que acabe con las autodefensas. Apoyen al Dr. Mireles. Se necesita una reunion urgente con demas lideres y autodefensas de todo Michoacan.

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  11. "He came hours later and was at a meeting 1 hrs and 45 min away with 380 people."

    Chivis,

    Mireles didn't have to be there physically to order the advance and be guilty of jumping the gun, so to speak. I think he's the most honest of the AD leaders, however the timing of where his was at, is irrelevant to whether he ordered the push or not. Most of the crimes in mexico do not happen in the presence of those who ordered them. I wouldn't give up on michoacan yet. Milenio has story about the townsfolk of Anguillila (sic) throwing tomatoes, oranges, eggs and whatnot at the returning mayor accusing him of being a templario. they are still fed up.

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  12. "Leaving the people confused, fearful and no where to turn without a perceived consequence."

    this doesn't seem to be the case in Michoacan's bigger cities. am i wrong?

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  13. I'm surprised nobody has brought it up - so I think it is something that should be mentioned. I don't think it's a smoking gun per say, however, I think it might have some significance related to the situation in Michoacan. If I recall correctly, this A. Castillo was the person that announced the capture of the Mano Con Ojos sicario called El Compayito who had the first name of Oscar, when he worked for the then governor of the state of Mexico EPN and the state's attorney general's office. This Compayito made reference, during his interrogation, to how he desired to kill A. Castillo because he failed to meet his end of the of the bargain in some corrupt arrangement they had. This sicario had worked for the Zetas and Beltran Leyva. He also referred himself as a Kaibile since he received training from some Guatemalan special forces commandos. Cold-blooded killer. I don't know if the allegations he made were true, however, that would be enough to question Castillo's credibility. Just like the credibility of the self- defense(ADs) leaders
    under the wing of A.Castillo and Pitufo. They either have brother in-laws who are cartel members, or are former members of LFM, CT, CJNG, or lived in the U.S.A. Whether it be Pitufo, los Viagras, commandante 5, El Americano, Commandante Bonita, etc. It appears that AD movement is being by hijacked by Castillo and Migueladas with Pap Pitufo as the leader of H3.

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    1. They should wack all of them and then play dumb like the government. What smurf there's no smurf here?

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  14. Well for all of those who are confused just close your eyes and think all the lies that our government (judicial, legislative and executive) have told Mexican citizens. You know people with is in power specially in many communities in Mexico try to confuse masses and hide the reality corruption, lack of opportunities, poverty, uneven justice (just remember all the people who should be in jail and now is free). Poor Mexico that can be one of the best country around the globe. God bless Mexico and down all the evil ones.

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  15. Dr. Mireles for president of Michoacán!!!

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    1. Better yet, president of Mexico!

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  16. I don't need to speak for Chivis. But I am a physician and can attest to rigor mortis or stiffening of a corpse [rigidez de la muerte]

    It does not begin until 3 - 4 hours post death. And not fully stiffened for up to 12 hours.

    I do recall Mireles made it clear he personally did not give the approval for the advancing, it was the first day he mentioned that, it was another man that was the Lazaro coordinator who directly gave the ok.

    This was orchestrated as a set up, to assure Mireles was removed and with a little luck falsely imprisoned.

    Even the posing of the corpse. He was fooled into doing it. I examined another photo of the same pose, different angle [on social media yesterday but I believe it is from Carmen Aristegui] where the photo includes a person to Mireles' immediate left-he also has the white examination gloves. Why didn't he help his partner with the head, to prevent it from flopping forward?
    They knew how the photo was to be used.

    Mireles is an innocent man

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  17. http://colimanoticias.com/autodefensas-de-coahuayana-aquila-y-chincuila-se-quedan-con-mireles/

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  18. The consensus in the Michoacán State Legislature is that the new FUERZA RURAL IS ILLEGAL, since state enabling legislation has not yet been passed:

    "Michoacán state law does not allow for a State Rural Police Force, so what these autodefensas have been converted into is illegal, unless they're created under the laws governing the federal defense forces, say state legislative leaders.

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  19. @12:51 PM: I would love to see an article about Castillo's past, but about Mano Con Ojos you are not quite right. The bribe money was supposed to go to Castillo, but Castillo was not aware of that because the delivery guy stole the money. Óscar Osvaldo García Montoya, the founder of Mano con Ojos wanted to kill Castillo because he thought he was on the take and did not deliver, but he realized how it really was, when questioned by Castillo which was published in the media. He also said so in that interview. A killer looking like Zohan with the hairdo.

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    1. Thanks for the clarification @2:51 PM. I went ahead ahead and re-watched the interrogation video of Compayito on YouTube. I find it ironic how this killer Oscar Garcia operated in Lazaro Cardenas where Castillo now is overseeing a commission as part of a plan to
      overhaul security in Mich. It is even more ironic how this sicario worked for BLO, and Castillo just happens to be handing over control of security of Tierra Caliente of Mich., of which LC is part of, to a defensa rural headed by a man whose last name happens to be Beltran. Probably just a coincidence. Then again maybe not?

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  20. CJNG al cien con el Mencho vamos a limpiar a Michioacan

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    1. Yeah sure another cartel is the answer? That's what started this whole mess in the first place!

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  21. Z-42 will set things right.

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  22. @ anon 11:59 "Leaving the people confused, fearful and no where to turn without a perceived consequence."
    this doesn't seem to be the case in Michoacan's bigger cities. am i wrong?"

    Well, the AD's never arrived in Morelia, but maybe that's why Morelia has become the murder capital of the state:

    http://www.cambiodemichoacan.com.mx/nota-224110

    Number 2 in population in Michoacán is Uruapan, where in the last week six members of the self-defense forces have been murdered by the members of the new cartel created by the federal government.

    You don't want me to continue down the list through Apatzingán and Lázaro Cárdenas, do you?

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    1. Sure, if you have the info!

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  23. They say la tuta got to Castillo by getting his direct family members

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    1. La Tuta is a snake and a blatant lier! He say he kicks out secuestradores, yet his own son was captured for kidnappings?

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  24. Doesnt rigor mortis set in afterm12 hours and after the next 12 hours it leaves again, so on and so forth? I have no experience with this phenomenon, but I do believe I have read that it comes and goes through the different stages of decay, is this with all mammals?

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  25. O well you wanted this now reap the consenquences you have to know how the world works people in power control people who comtrol cartel who control companys etc. when you overthrow it is a domino effect now you guys are worse no money no security no work prices for limes are up mireles should just be killed he started this and should not if he was not going to keep control he tought it was easy. What a shame and you morons taking side but dont even live in mexico and have no clue was is going on. Only what you read online!

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    1. Bullshit, and it's Dr Mireles! Dumbass!!! The corrupt political system in Mexico is all fucked up and poor little kids worshipping the stupid Narco fuckeheads and songs is the problem!!! Maybe if dumbasses like you were a little like Dr Mirales and his true followers, shit would change!

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    2. So it's ok then huh, lets have sicarios and rapists in charge! Maybe you can go live there and let them rape your mom and sister! You are such a dumbass!

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    3. You hit the nail rite on the head, most of thr people belive all thay is said here but ther far far away aya por disney land,bengan paca alo calientr aber si el puto DOC MIRELES LO KIEREN... SI LO KIEREN PERO EN BARBACOA, PINCHE ASESINO CULERO

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    4. All of these Narco fuckeheads are a bunch off greedy ass lazy putos, and need to be exterminated!

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  26. Dayum what a fuckin mess in michoacan.

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  27. cant say we all didnt see this coming. when that guy a long time ago was screaming about the ad turning into rurales (aka the people who kill and rob for the gov't) i saw the end. but hey thats a human quality. we all think our situation is unique and we are immune from the past.
    barborous mexico

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  28. A vote by the people would put Dr Mireles at the top, AGAIN AND AGAIN...
    --when you mix castillo de cagada there, it becomes intrigue and backstabbing, chilango politics and bullshit.
    --they can silence and supress the AD, and all their leadership, but the motherfucking mexican government satrapy can't silence all of us...
    --better agencies, more powerful and professional, like the CIA and the KGB, NSA, FBI, stassi and others, have not been 100% effective on suppressing rebelion and dissent, it will take a while, but we'll get there somehow, mientras tanto, que chinguen a su madre los enemigos!

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  29. 11:57 100% of crimes are done in the presence of those that commit them, if the pitufo used the Dr Mireles affiliated AD to kill those guys, it is his deal 100%, and probably instigated by el castillo de cagada.
    3:54 DON'T TEASE, deliver all the data, somebody will put it to good use, it is like tamaulipas, where there is no crime ever, but somebody is running the photos that say there is crime all over the motherfucking state of tamaulipas, and the government is probably an accomplice of the criminals.
    12:51 you don't send a kickbacks to anybody, you make sure they come and get it, and tape and record the whole proceedings, otherwise yo are a fool and a pendejo, not for nothing, those motherfuckers working for the corrupt government don't want to leave proof of their corruption behind.
    thàt is how you lose the money, and the friend, and that is how they sell and resell the plazas to rival factions, any government official that takes your kickback money, also takes from your rivals, you are better off killing them the moment they take your money, but at least have proof that they got paid, they will still allege entrapment, or doctored tapes etc etc, so make sure and stick it to them in the ass; if el compayito believes tat his money didn't make it to vastillo de cagada, then he is really an innocent little angel, i believe he was forced to say " ohh, that's how it went, my buddy stole the kickback ohh, wow!" as part of his deal to get out of jail sooner, and that is it; all higher echelon government employees do take and demand kickbacks, real business people in mexico used to despise politicians with all their heart, they know mexican politicians have no business sense, nor the mind for it, real criminals know it, you don't make money by working, or by honest business dealing, you do it by stealing, corrupting, corrupt deals, your dirty pawns will do the job for you...a la CARLOS SLIM HELU, that method got him to be the richest billionaire in the whole world, right behind the rothschilds.
    very well doing by a lebanese in mexico, i'm trying to find more about lebanese and other arab world crooks workng within mexico to stick it to the whole world, US congressman darrell issa, car thief, is one more lebanese, the mexican HARBANOS were not going to be so obsequious forever, bueno bonito y barato is over...

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  30. 8:56 tu eres el pendejo y culero, los asesinos ahi son los nuevos mata amigos, simon el americano y alberto gutierrez el comandante cinco hindu, preguntale al cinco hindu de donde saco la pistola de su amigo ex ct el pollo, aver si no te mata a ti tambien, el pinche cinco hindu no se pudo aguantar las ganas de presumir su TROFEO, la pistola con adornos de oro que pertenecio a su amigo, al que hizo barbacoa de pollo, estoy seguro que el cinco hindu ahora le cuida sus 400 hectareas al pollo, y las nalgas de la vieja tambien, cuida a tu vieja y tus propiedades, de los nuevos cocineros de la barbacoa, los asesinos del pollo, el americano y el cinco hindu, que es un pinche apestoso y hablador, peor que la puta tuta...y no hables pendejadas nomas por defender a esos pinches maricones por un piquete...

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