Saturday, March 15, 2014

El Chayo: buried weaponry cache located and additional death photos

Chivis Martínez for Borderland Beat
Four women  retrieve the body of Chayo-
the woman front second left is Chayo's only sister
 
Update 3.16.14: Chayo's funeral was conducted today at the La Cruz Funeral home, in Altozano, Morelia, Michoacán.  A small group of mourners gathered at the luxury mausoleum in the state capital, including his sister and 3 nieces. I had posted the link to the funeral home directory yesterday, (see hyperlink below).  The website boasts "a private exit", among other amenities.  Place of burial was not made public.  Photo of lobby below.
 
Previous post
A hoard of heavy artillery was discovered yesterday in an area El Chayo was known to operate in.  Nazario Moreno González, aka El Chayo, maximum leader of Caballeros Templarios, was killed by federal forces last Sunday.
With intelligence and guidance by the Michoacán Autodefensas, federal forces located the leader in Tumbicastío, a municipality in the sierra mountains.  He was killed in a shootout, in the shootout several of his guards were wounded and taken into custody.
It was information given by detainees that led authorities to an area in Cerro El Negro, Tumbicastío, in search for the weapons buried underground.  Federal forces observed freshly disturbed soil at the location indicated by the detainees, and began digging resulting in the discovery of the cache:

11 rocket launcher
4 grenade launchers

15 guns –one with an engraved Templarios cross-
3 pistols

4 rocket launcher fins

78 magazines
1300 rounds of ammunition of various calibers

 

 
Video below: Chayo's family escorts his body to La Cruz mausoleum in Morelia 
 


To view other death photos click on to second page Warning: they are graphic

 
 
 
 
 
 
Below signature: looks like there may be yet another illiterate capo
 
  

101 comments:

  1. Sorry readers! I am still ill so things are a bit slow, and moderating likewise.

    Paz

    Chivis

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    1. Take it easy Chivas. Get better. My positive thoughts are with you today. No pressure ( easy for me to say,huh?). You do outstanding work!!!

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  2. Hope you feel better, Chivis! and awesome article!

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  3. I have a signature like that and I'm not illiterate. Haha.

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  4. Oops sorry about that! You mean you print your first name as your legal signature? I am amazed

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    1. I think El Chayo was illiterate because he couldn't read the handwriting on the wall.

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  5. 300 integrantes de autodefensas buscan a Servando Gómez "La Tuta" quien asumió el liderazgo de los caballeros templarios tras la muerte de Nazario Moreno "El Chayo"

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  6. Those are some ugly green slime Ghetto sneakers... no wonder they took him out... if you are going to be a BOSS of a Cartel... you need to wear better gear... el Lazca Z 3 murio con unas botas bien puestas...

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    1. He probably stole them from some 13 year old kid!

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    2. We was going to a St Patricks party!

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  7. I also don't know handwriting, It was hard for me to get the hang of it.

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  8. it's interesting... when i see signatures in mexico, educated or not so much... there is always the squiggle ending. it must be left over from the spanish. many mexicans cannot write, only print. when people who work for me are paid each saturday many can barely print their name and occasionally only with a mark or X. obviously, in mexico it is more important to have 'wits' to survive rather than an education. most educated mexicans i know are severely under employed or have their own business with little connection to their education.

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    1. I agree, some of the smartest people who I have alot of respect for and have accomplished alot more than pochos with all the opportunities handed down to them are paisas who came to the USA with nothing. Yet their education bacground would be lucky if they made it to the fourth grade. Having been responsible from as young as four years old working on the ranchos will do that. I don't believe their writing always shows their true intelligence.

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    2. Why would you make them sign their names,if all you do is drop them off at some random corner with a cart full of fruit and make them stand there selling them in the hot or cold weather and pay them very little,you abuser.

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    3. The best supervisor i ever worked for was dyslexic. He was very smart, he just had that backward letter thing going on.

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  9. those are skater shoes, maybe Vans. the color is popular in California.

    sorry about the signature assumption, I am now, but all caps etc threw me and I am still in doubt. I can understand todays computer generation being a bit immature in long hand, but not of his generation. But I concede maybe I am wrong. I was wrong once before. JK

    thanks for the well wishes, I prob won't check back for hours, so miserable.

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    1. You need to eat a botanna from culichi town in Rialto ,ca
      Viva socal

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    2. That place is over rated try ranas in ontario ;)

      -951

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    3. Culichi town is wack!! Way over rated...la rana is pretty good tho

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  10. Why does chivis always seem to point out that a capo is illiterate? Really, why does it matter?

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  11. im sorry but If you have a signature like that and like chapos, you are a illiterate retard.

    there's no other way around it.

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    1. You must have had all the opportunity as a kid to go to school and probably attended Sweet Valley high!

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    2. Illiterate maybe yes definetly.
      Retard ? Not even close,dude made billions Chapo rules.

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  12. oh I can't let that comment go. a@ 12:36

    I have worked in education systems of mexico for 10 years. that is simply not true. it is very unusual for students not to be able to write. now if you say they are poor readers and do not read for leisure, I would agree. but learning to write is a basic skill and longhand is introduced around 9.

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    1. Chivis I respect you alot! I just have to say the Mexican school system does have high standards as far as penmanship and mathematics. But thats for the people that are actually able to go to school and complete it. Lets face reality not everybody has had that opportunity. Many have had to work from a very young age to help support their family, and maybe only had one to three years of school. I'm not making excuses for capos, but if they had better penmanship that would probably mean that they had higher education and would not have chosen the life of CAPO but be corrupt politicians! By the way we all hope you get better!

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    2. A lot of the capos and plaza bosses are from small villages in the mountains. There may be a one room school they go to for two years before going to work helping the family.

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    3. Pharmacists and doctors have sloppy signatures like that and we all know they are not stupid or illiterate! It is done on purpose by them to keep the dope fiends from trying to forge their prescription pads for drugs! This is true

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    4. My dad is chapos age, he didnt go to school becouse they were schools in his town.. but guess what, he was capable of teaching him self how to do his handwriting... all those capos are just puppets who are just being use for display

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  13. why is his right eye so swollen? it looks like he got his ass whopped first then killed.

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  14. 12:41 ALWAYS? do you always generalize? that is dangerous. I only said what I know, Chapo is illiterate...that would be one capo. and MAYbe Chayo.

    Why is it important. that is something I have written about many times. you must be new or completely ignorant of the impoverished and uneducated in Mexico. How certain groups of children are ignored, deemed unimportant and forgotten. This develops into a massive (60% pop impoverished) pool of recruits for cartels.

    In Chapo's case, his brilliance in business shines, and I wonder what an education, with that natural ability, would have led to in a world of Mexican educational equality. Mexico doesn't realize how many leaders they suffocate because of their origin, color of skin, or station in society.

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    1. You're stupid

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    2. I agree! The polical climate of Mexico and possibly Globalization has cultivated this environment for the Narco culture to take root in Mexico. When the have nots see opportunity in crime theres usually neglect by Government!

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    3. One thing that caught my eye, compare chapo's signature on the ca license to the way hes signing the paper work after he was capture. Though you cant see the writting you can tell by the pen movement hes writting in cursive

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  15. smack- take that 12:41- and slap-kick-pow
    down for the count chivis style.

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  16. These foos are suppose big shots but they wear thrift store clothes

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  17. So who's gonna get taken in and arrested for the complicity and murder for Chayo by the Narco Government of Michuacan!

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  18. son iletrados, no por eso estupidos, el autor tiene una ignorancia terrible del sistema educativo mexicano, y si firma "all in caps" es para hacer una firma facil de replicar... the IDs look authentic pero son de un prestanombres.

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  19. some of you are confusing illiterate with intelligence, they have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

    illiterate means unable to read or write. usually due to lack of opportunity. one can be highly intelligent, and iliterate

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    1. Yes can you please explain to the real retards that it does not mean they are mentally challenge. For example when i was in high school there where people that talked perfect english but could not read one sentence or word and could not write but they where not stupid.

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  20. Dr mireles said el mas loco would not get on any car and that he traveled by mule he called it no he says he knows where tuta is but they cant go get him in la sierra de arteaga also has info on kike that he has given to feds only a mater of time i bet tuta will not b killed and kike will get smoke get better chivis saludos from nor cal

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    1. So the government is not letting the AD's go after the CAPO's! What a bunch of crap! The Government is probably having linch with Tuta and Kiki right now, negotiating their capture! The politicians are real pieces of shit! They should be the ones in jail for all the murders and other crimes in Mexico. Giving orders to Generals is the same as doing the crimes! No fucking difference.....!

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  21. Was he planning on using the driver's license to show the police when they stop him for a broken tail light? Voting credentials to participate in democracy by voting in a politician that represents la gente ???? or to get a rabies shot at the IMSS clinic?

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    1. Maybe this guy just happens to be some poor bastard that they put Chayos ID's on and the real is in Rio enjoying a cocktail! Stranger thing have happened!

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  22. --elchayo; solar powered technology at his ranch, followers, millions of pesos made, maybe a few dollars, politicians at all levels, raised a lot of hell, bossed educated people like tito el jotito architect puchacacas de la puta tuta, a teacher.
    --el chayo bought a lot of impunity from the army on the area, policia judicial federal never could touch him, he was no match for the AD that finally put the moves on him, the marinas on the hunt for him, could not reach him, lawyers on his pocket, governors, senators, presidents of the republic, zetas, as highly inteligent as illiterate, what a waste.
    --el chayo's ignorance got the best of him at the end.
    --the AD's ignorance has them on the ropes against the federal government, all the people's work to recover their peace and dignity is at risk of being neutralized for lack of professional assistance.
    --the AD need to reach out to business managers and professionals to assist their movement to not lose what they have struggled to attain and so many have paid with their lives for, or the government will steal it and restore the traditional exploiters.
    --like miguel angel gallegos godoy and arcelor-mittal, and last but not least, the new cabelleras kagadas under el americano's new leadership.
    --if the new mata-amigos can't help the "demisal" of his own friends, what can the ADs expect?
    --another master with hungry pockets selling them down the river?
    --i hope not! the AD need to go back to locals only, the people they know and respect.
    --the "reformed" templars were not needed before, when the AD were nothing, they are lucky they are not in jail, that should be enough.
    --let them earn their pardons working somewhere else, not as the armed sicarios of el americano.
    --all of them should be disbanded or reassigned, not allowed to become their own new reorganized army of crooks...
    --the imprisoned AD menbers should be on the bargaining table as soon as possible too

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    1. 8:38 well, thanks, unlike BORED AND REAMED below, at 12:40pm,
      you can read english...you're welcome

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  23. To learn to read and write... you need Ganas and not a govt education system... look at America with all its govt education systems k-12 and it still produces a bunch of dummies who can't write or read what their diploma says... Govt programs don't give you Ganas to better yourself in this world... Las tienes "Ganas" or no las tienes... In Mexico people choose the Narco education instead of the Govt class room... Chapo has Billions and his children are going to take his place soon... just like El Mayo "MZ" they are the new generation of Narcos... taught well by their parents.

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    1. Let's just hope all the narco juniors become addicted to Facebook and show off their goods so they are captured. Hopefully they don't get the common sense of their parents.

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    2. Most poor that are illiterate never choose a life of crime, no matter the circumstances! We are just saying the criminals usually come from the impoverished, neglected, and outcasts from society! That anywhere in the world! Mexico is a little different in that the real CAPOS are educated and run the whole country through a system of Narco Politics! Unfortunately its gonna take a revolution to to undo this mess! Thats why the AD's are putting some much fear in these piwcw of shit politicians asses!

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    3. Ganas you dound like a fool in mexico education is not free and most have to work to at least make enough to eat that day. Ganas you should have to not be a pendejo. Mexico is not the usa either you choose to pay for housing food or somebody education in the usa you can get help with housing,food,education,and money. So its not that they do not ganas you moron either you choose you have a place to live and eat or education what would you do with at the ganas(will) you have????

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  24. What's going on with Caro quintero? Ever since he was released capos have been dropping like flies. Also cdg and zetas

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  25. Best pictures by far I've seen of El Chayo.
    Hope to see Tuta in similar poses soon!

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  26. Chivis girl.
    Why the fuck do you argue with some of these clowns?Go get well and come back,fuck this till you feel better?

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  27. Chivita mi amor

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  28. Hola...up for an hour :)
    I see thousands of children deemed attrition by mex gob and society, maybe they are poor, maybe "Indio" whatever, education is not easily available to them, and no matter what the hell Mexico says education is not free, the corrupt schools charge a little tax r fee for this or that, and when you are talking 15 dollars or sometimes more and you have two kids, that may be impossible, because you have to buy supplies, or transportation. not every municipality has schools or even teachers. like Chapo. In the mountains, or rural areas.

    So much talent never tapped into. I had a brilliant kid I met on a construction site, I was building a school. He was completely illiterate, but taught himself a crude system of math using rocks.. I took him under my wing, and sent my tutor to work with him.

    In one year he was reading well enough to learn the computer I gave him. I sent a computer tutor as well. He graduated to middle school in 1.5 years with some of the highest scores in the state! He is now confidant and has dreams. I pledged his tuition if he wants to study at the university. And he is the nicest, coolest kid I have met in Mexico. Narcos almost got him recruited one summer when he visited buela in Monclova. But dad took care of that BS. and brought him home. Studying 5 hours a day 7 days a week to catch up, can be grueling and break the best of kids, but he got back on track.

    there are millions of children like my Pepito, who just need an opportunity, and hope.

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    1. Careful with those names! Careful with the family tree! Careful with those locations!
      Atte:
      EL BRAIN DRAIN.

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    2. You can't really explain real poverty & extreme govt neglect to people who are born & raised in the US. Their minds would not allow that computation. Its unthinkable.

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    3. I attended Mexican schools from 1978 to 1984 ( 1st grade to 8th grade) and I can tell you on those days Mexican curricula was more demanding compared to American standards specially in math. Although hard to believe on those days cursive writing was not part of any subject of study there. When I moved to the US, I remember having trouble when asked to sign my name because I was never prepared to sign documents but I didn't have trouble with trigonometry taught to me at 8th grade in Mexico. The problem with Mexican education at the time it was not customized for specific careers. It seems to me education there, now looking back, education was intended to prepare you for an academic career and not a technical degree. This system causes students who are not performing at that level to drop from school and usually they are the ones moving to the US for better opportunities. Their reasoning is "if someone with a degree struggles to survive financially there, they don't even have a chance there" so they move here for the American dream.
      I can bet you there is an overpopulation of graduates in academic fields creating a lack of educated people on technical jobs.
      Here in the US, school advisors prepare your schedule depending on your academic wisdom with the principle not everyone is going to be a doctor or engineer and the job of the advisor is to direct you into a technical career. Somebody has to change the oil in your car, or fix your ac, etc and here in the US technical schools prepared students for a job depending on your level of intelligence. Mexico didn't have and probably doesn't have a system to keep students if they cannot meet the demand of a curricula primarily for academic and not technical degree.
      To make the story short, even people with an education in Mexico will not be prepared to sign in cursive until they get a job!! And unfortunately most of my Mexican counterparts living in the US are people that unfortunately economic and social reasons force US to move to the US and pursue the American dream. The advantage immigrants have we are resourceful in finding solutions to problems and usually get the job done.
      The morale of the story don't judge a person for his signature but for he has been trained at a school or experienced in life.

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  29. Are the pictures suppose to be the same body? The two top pictures he has a brown polo style shirt and the bottom two picture has a brown vest.

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  30. Good hope the Caballeros Templarios begin to splinter or hope not regroup and operate as drug producers and traffickers only. No cartel can survive when they start kidnaping, raping and extorting people. Hope all the cartels.get the message and example to what happens when they start messing with the innocent.

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  31. that is an absolutely cool story chivis...he was a lucky one

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  32. Where Chayo get shot?

    I don't see any holes in his shirt.

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  33. Good riddance. Hope they find la tuta. He's wetting his pants because he knows they are coming for him and he will either wind up dead or captured. Hopefully if the U.S. gets involved they'll just tap his phone or use satellite to track his movements. You can run but you cant hide from the united states central intelligence agency. Thats how they found el chapo and z40.

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    1. Many they can drag LA puta into a lemon grove,blast him,then throw his dead fatass into a pile in the back of a truck.:),or hang him from a bridge.:)

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  34. Saludos desde Guanatos ( AKA) Guadalajara, Jal.México.as far as schooling goes yo solo termine mi primaría and yet im able to write español y english.Saludos dsd Guadalaja. Dr Mireles es un MILAGRO.

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  35. Dios escogió a México cómo sus hijos.

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  36. And evil will never win!

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  37. I agree Chivis. Education is the key. In my home town in coastal Michoacan it is the key to advance sin tranza!! Get well...

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  38. I agree, education is the key. In my coastal hometown in Michaocan, it is the only way to get ahead. Only hay dos opciones. Cultivar or join a cartel. We have to get rid of "no se pudede advancar sin tranza".

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  39. The women in the middle you meant? Oh yeah 2nd left or 2nd right?

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  40. Dsd guanatos saludos.Dr Mireles keep on going viejo,México te necesita.

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  41. Yeah sk8d shoes pantalones a 1/2 nalga,dnt tell me he was trying to pass as a teen ángel i mean teen ager.

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  42. Aaaaaarrastrameeeeee de los huérfanos!!!!!

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  43. Looks to me that if you are to be a drug dealer, its far safer here in the states.

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  44. At least the man had the balls to go out the way he was meant to, dead. If you get into the business of being a criminal it's only right that when caught you go out in a bag, going to prison is the way the chickens go.

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  45. And I wonder why the american system still produces these dummies, on the whole, would you be discouraged and maybe even aware that the public school system has been dumbed down over the past 20 or so years because who floods/ flooded the public schools with kids that dont get much help at home to learn their grammar, or have no interest in doing so, there fore schools had to dial back their testing standards so they wont seem inneffective, they just coast these kids through so no one gets upset and the schools keep their funding, state and federal....oh well thats the gringos problem,

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  46. many of our best latin american leaders have studied on some of the best american institutions of higher education like MIT, Hardward and Yale, and the School of the Americas, others on european institutions in spain and france, epn only needed 2 weeks of seminars in the US to learn to spend a few million dollars in stores like Bijan's, la chuky never went to school...
    We the mexican beneficiaries of their education and high training don't have anything to show for it, they have all the impunity for their corruption and murdering ways.
    the highly educated training they got under the all powerful and protecting arms of the CIA and global bankers produces big benefits for their masters and fruit vendors that discovered that the good life consists of vending fruit and tamales on the US, and it is a more honorable and ethical way of living than that of the ambassadors of good will that come and corrupt our highly educated keepers of the flames of democracy.
    thanks to the friendly gestures of the educated pawns of the global masters of the world, Mexico went from a revolutionary nation whose wars were financed by the US fron the start, to the narco-democracia of vicente fox to the narco-fascsista banana republic of today.
    see, google etc: the United States of America, a banana republic?
    chivaaa! a big help to the education system would be a report from a credible source on the corruption of those running the education system in Mexico, and their impunity, how much the country spends on it, how much gets stolen, by who, their accomplices, and the consequences we all pay.
    the political doctrine that "a poor politician is poor at politics"should be changed to: "a rich politician is as good as dead".
    joseph stalin, was'n the boss or the money, he never touched his paycheck, and his country went places, same as other leaders of the communist world, the slave communist workforce paid for their progress with their slavery, the free world workers of today are paying for the extravagant way of life of the modern neo-capitalistas of today that don't even try to disguise the evil purposes of their shenanigans, and have us on our way to be the new exploited masses of aspiring millionaires without education...
    " ...president obama wants eveybody to go to school and obtain a college degree, to become 'snobs' like him ..." Rick Santorum catholic republican presidential candidate, still hopeful...
    " ...no more abortion clinics in texas... " Rick Perry, texas governor, presidential hopeful, his sister's clinics can handle that, for profit, as it should be...
    "rick scott pleads guilty to defrauding medicare" to pay less in fines while having to return more than 2 billion dollars to the US government... then buys the governorship of florida to make back the money in the crown jewel of the drug trafficking state (!!!?????!!!)
    education, money and power do not garrantee a better person...

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  47. Good Pepito! Maybe he will grow up to be the first uncorrupted politician!

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  48. I don't see any gun wounds seemed they took him out with a good old beating

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  49. completely different system in 1978. Mexican schools are the worst in north American and lowest pisa scores. and among the worst in the world in the Bangladesh range.

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  50. at 12;23 pharmacist and doctors don't PRINT their signatures. pay attention

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  51. Templarios already splinter with viagras. I am not sure about H3. can someone tell me if they are also a splinter?

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    1. Caballeros templarios protected michoacan from rival cartels but most of them fucked up extorting n kidnapping people , but still didnt allow any other cartel to come in n fuck everything up in michoacan , most autodefensas are somehow connected to CJNG because how the hell do they get $ for all the weaponry , come on now hopefully am wrong n cjng doesnt one day turn their back on the autodefensas n take over michoacan , they cjng ate just sitting back watching z40 ,chapo chayo x20 get caught n el mencho waiting to take over but he better not get caight slippin

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    2. It doesn't what cartel! Let's just hope all criminals organizations are out hopefully!

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  52. Cut his head off.

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  53. My god ,some of you people need to get out more,something is mentioned as as an aside,a throwaway joking comment,and a lot of "men"come out the woodwork shouting about illiteracy?IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INTELLIGENCE.How some of the mods put up with you fuckin girls i will never know.The whole story was hijacked because a mod made a joke,in essence?Pathetic man,for real pathetic.Look at this shit i,m doing it now?

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  54. March 15, 2014 at 9:21 PM
    "Are the pictures suppose to be the same body? The two top pictures he has a brown polo style shirt and the bottom two picture has a brown vest"
    No wonder Chivis gets pissed? Ey man,do you think he had a blanket or shawl around his shoulders,or a soldier threw it on his ass when he was dead?What do you think?And man,who gives a fuck what nickers he is wearing,its him and hes dead.No more kidnapping for you super Michochayo

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  55. March 16, 2014 at 6:17 AM
    Dude you talk some shit,you got some problems.Is this all you do is rehash your hate agenda and bullshit?Fuck,talk about constructive,all you do is write fuckin manuscripts full of internet bullshit that you probably copied and pass of as yours,shit,why use a sentence when a fuckin magnum opus will do?Give someone else some room,take a break,have a lie down,feed your cat,fuckin anything other than taking all the comment section with shit?
    Do you ever shut up?Fuck what a bore.

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    1. @12:40 you can see at a glance when a post is longer than one or two lines, why can't you skip to lines like "chapo snitched"?
      We can post up to about 4500 words, and more people are posting longer rants, poor little you, BORED AND REAMED, there you go

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  56. Hey, Chivis at 10:47 a.m.: This is from a post yesterday on Valor Por Michoacán, about El Americano and the H3. They pretty much are calling for him to get rid of all the ex-Templarios:

    "La autodefensa de Hipólito Mora era la mas débil ya que solo tenia aproximadamente unos 60 comunitarios y al parecer por miedo muy pocos seguidores le quedaban ya en La Ruana, muchos hablan de los famosos H3 que son los comunitarios de El Americano la mayoría lo forman los de Apatzingan, Pinzandaro y claro de Buenavista. Simon líder de la autodefensa de Buenavista es apasionado por los automóviles todo terreno perteneciente al grupo General Motors llamados Hummer, de ahi el nombre "H3" derivado a un modelo de Hummer.
    En su grupo hay ex templarios y le decimos que así como se castigara a las autodefensas de La Ruana por cometer un crimen también vamos hacer parejos y debemos de hacer una LIMPIA TOTAL a las autodefensas del Americano que no crea solo por tener mas hombres que Hipolito sea inmune no señor usted ha sido muy valiente y admira pero tampoco se vale que personas como los "perdonados" que cometieron crimines se oculten tras de usted y le vean la cara, el Americano es una buena persona tampoco crean en chismes pero lo que si tienen razón es su forma de actuar esta en duda por eso debemos de limpiar las autodefensas antes de seguir avanzando, el Americano como exigió al señor Hipolito que entregara a los culpables nosotros también le pedimos que no defienda a los CONTADOS ex templarios que tiene en sus filas, hay que ser parejo Simon y lo sabes, debemos de limpiar nuestras autodefensas por nuestra propia seguridad.
    Y los invitamos a denunciar al comisionado todo aquel ex templario que cometió delitos y ahora esta de autodefensa, sus crímenes los debe de pagar no solo por hincarse y pedir perdón serán absueltos de sus delitos, no señores deben de pagar TRAS LAS REJAS.
    Y los H3 no es un cartel es el grupo del americano pero es su "insignia" como los listones amarillos de otras autodefensas, cualquier esta libre de poner su sobrenombre que sea, lo que si aceptamos es que hay mucho ex templario en los H3 y vamos a exigir su depuración les guste o no, Simon alias el americano sufrió de secuestros por parte de los templarios el mas que nadie ha sufrido de estos criminales solo que la gente que se le ha rodeado tiene muy mala fama.

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    1. Como el dicho dice! Dime con quien to juntas y yo te digo quien eres! Quien es El Americano si esta rodeado por puros Templarios?

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  57. Chivis... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GOIr9lTyoA

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  58. If I was a relative of Charles Manson I would not tell anyone, let alone claim his body out of shame. You have a mass murderer here that makes Manson look like a choir boy. If he was my father, brother or whatever, I would distance myself from him as fast as I could, and maybe even change my name. Some of these people have no shame, and even in death want to honor this garbage. They are probably sad that he got caught. Total family is apparently garbage!

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  59. Looks more like a beat up Chris Arreola

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  60. Is this guy General Butt naked ?

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  61. Would one of the in-the-know commentors please share their knowledge and tell an ignorant gringo what "El Chayo" translates to in English? My searches so far have been fruitless.

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  62. Enrique=quique=kike=kiki
    Ignacio=nacho
    Na-zario=chayo is a contraction of nachayo=nazario...

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  63. I want to thank whoever answered my question about "El Chayo." The explanations for the nicknames Kiki and Nacho were an unexpected bonus.
    Stay well my friend.

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  64. 3:10...
    actually Chayo is just a nickname for Rosario or Nazario which both mean rosary. Rosario is feminine or masculine name and is the more common name.

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  65. Thank you Chivas. I now know that Chayo doesn't mean something more sinister as I once did.

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