Wednesday, March 5, 2014

Apatzingán Michoacán: murdered family of 13 located in narco fosa

Chivis Martínez for Borderland Beat

Autodefensa advocate, Catholic priest known as Padre Goyo, reported a dozen bodies were discovered in Apatzingán Michoacán fosa yesterday.
Goyo said the 12 executed people were of the same family, including children, that were murdered by the Caballeros Templarios cartel.
The narco fosas (clandestine grave) was in the community of "El Alcalde", town of Apatzingán.  
An anonymous tip alerted authorities, which led to the location of the grave.
Later today authorities asserted that the number of bodies found was  thirteen and not twelve. Victims were 9 adults, the eldest being a female 68 years of age and four children.  The children ranged in ages of 13 months to 15 years.
Identification was found in the clothing of some of the victims.
The group was kidnapped last August, and no information surfaced of their whereabouts, until the anonymous call disclosed the location of the clandestine grave.

It is being reported that the patriarch of the family had joined the autodefensas movement in Apatzingán, which in August was still in its infancy, in the Templarios stronghold . 

The family was kidnapped from their home, bounded, and transported to a hilly area away from the city where they were tortured, raped and killed.
Today, there was an arrest of a man, who was identified by relatives of the victims as a participant on  the mass kidnap and murder  "surge".

Father Goyo is accusing the mayor of Apatzingán, who is the nephew of El Chayo one of the maximum leaders of Templarios, of being complicit in the narconappings in Apatzingán.

UPDATE:  Although a few versions have surfaced of this story, the essential facts remain the same. However,  other reports say the family was taken in October, and that remains of  3 month old baby was found along side his mother in the fosa.

Another report states the arrested man was part of a group of  CT killers/ kidnappers that kidnapped several families, this was the first family whose remains were found.  The arrested man says he hid by infiltrating AD for a couple of months.  Reports of AD giving the information leading to the fossa, information they became aware of when citizens came forth and provided information about the infiltrator.

Father Goyo:  Has decided to take a break from the autodefensas struggle.  He is leaving to Rome.

Father Goyo, the usually tough priest, breaks down in an interview
 
Agencia Esquema and facebook were used to write this post.

124 comments:

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    1. They must not have one of the families La Tuta was talking about when he said his group doesn't kill woman and children! The last memmories of that family on this earth is getting raped! Gee I wonder if thats what La Tuta, Kiki Pancarte, El Chato, and the Templario Mayor would like done to their own family.

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    2. This massacre will backfire 1000 times for the Templarios!!!!

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    3. Torture THEN kill,those responsible.it will be difficult for normal ad people to do this,but it MUST be done because the psychological effect will last for years and will PROTECT the people against future cowards ten plars.because these guys are rat cowards they will confess and the ad can extract revenge for this family,but the killers MUST be tortured first before hanged.very important,people,you are fighting for your future lives.demand to skin alive la puts.

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  2. I remember being shocked and have a upset stomach cause of this when young ones are murdered but now since this happen more frequent I don't get sad or angry just a blank feeling and it's the same way down there.

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  3. If I was involved with the autodefensas movement I would execute every person who I came in contact with the was involved in organized crime, you see from this story that these deviants have no humanity so why should they be left breathing the same air as the rest of us. Anyone who could kill children deserves to die a very painful death, and I don't mean their cheesy beheading which is quick and to the point, I mean we'll take our time about it and keep working on them for days.

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    1. Would it be the right to do? Or would you be lowering your self even lower? I mean, we are the good people... Right? Then again if it was my family..... FUCK IT DECAPITATE THE MOTHER FUCKERS SO WE END UP IN HELL WITH THEM AND DECAPITATE THEIR BITCH ASSES AGAIN!!!!!!!!

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    2. Then we should blow up Cowards that use drones thinking that they're the shit because they killed a human being behind a computer screen

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    3. @1130 wtf, get your Obama hating political ass out of here. This is mexican narcos news @sshat.

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    4. Dude really???? Ur gunna bring up drones?? Drones operate in the middle east not mexico. They're used in terrain that is to difficult for troops or troops would take too long and the terrorist would get away. This site is about mexican and american drug wars u fuckin idiot. Take ur bullshit somewhere else

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    5. AMERICAN CONTRACTORS running the drone programs, are the ones abusing it and killing the collateral victims, their lobby must be real powerful, and the contractors need to be investigated...

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    6. He might have thrown a random point out of the blue, lol BUT i must agree with him!

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  4. So many things I wanna say but I'm left speechless...a 13 month old child...really??

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    1. Can any human being live with themselves after committing such an act like this!

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  5. when your lil watching tv there was always the good guys the badguys in the world today those lines are blurry the governments of the worlds kidnap kill disappear any opposition theres genocide taking place in north America but our resources are spent abroad cause energy and oil mean more then the lower class when did the people of the America and canada vote and decide to stop helping our own and instead go take from others

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    1. Get the fuck out of here,Canada is irrelevant.bunch of pussys...what a joke..why do u include yourself with Americans,jokester.

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  6. Hope those bastards get what they deserve

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  7. these A holes woulda fit in perfectly with the SS

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  8. How sad to know that people will go as far as taking the life of a baby to get $150 dollars... for those of us that have children this is unimaginable no matter how much you can get for such action.

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    1. How do you know he got paid $150?

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  9. Cowardly acts like this is why the templarios days are counted.

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  10. Fucking dirty ass templarios,coward ass niggas,can't get dude so they Fuck with family,I'm from michoacan myself,can't go over there but there trying to start in the chi,I'm gonna do my duty over here for the people of michoacan Fuck ct bunch of cowards,get rid of these scumbags!

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    1. Relax internet tough guy

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    2. You net banger who is talking shit on cartel net bangers I laugh at your hypocrisy "nigga"

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    3. You were respected until u used the word"nigga" you idiot,you must be a blaxican,pellos de puerco.

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  11. Sadly those who commited this crime probably will get killed by gun fire and have a fast death but im hoping im wrong and they suffer 100 times which this poor people had to go thru how can anybody kill a 13 month baby sad very sad I hope they could lock me up with one of those cowards a give me a bat

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    1. Hopefully they flee the AD and go to jalisco and end up on a beheading video

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  12. Hijos de sus pinches madres,pinche cobarde templarios,matando inocentes,u all deserve to die like the dogs dat u are,better yet a dog is too good for u, u deserve to be tortured for all eternity in hell with the rest of the bullshit cartels,may all ur familys annd ur desecendants be cursed for all time!!!!

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  13. I always wonder how these killers came to be able to take the lives of little children...they don't remember being little children themselves? they don't have mothers or sisters or brothers with little children? they don't have any feelings for anyone at all? crazy stuff how can they live with themselves every day...do they go around telling others oh yeah by the way today I killed some children?

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    1. I suspect that demonic forces are at work here,what other possible reason is there? All throughout history beginning in Genesis child and human sacrifices have occurred and every incident from Moloch to Aztec to Hitler involved occult and demon worship,Jesus Christ is the son of God and every man will be held to account for his actions words and thoughts as long as life exists a man can be saved by the grace of our heavenly father this life is but a blink of an eye compared to eternity

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    2. Well sometimes their threatened with death themselves if the do not comply with their orders

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    3. 4:19am

      Templarios are a "Christian" cartel, religion is not a solution.

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    4. @6:07 a.m well theyd just have to take my ass out then! My ass aint killin no 13 month old! These guys who did this are dickless and spineless wonders!!!!!

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    5. Well then they should turn their gun on their bosses if they are given orders as horrific as these. Let their coward ass bosses carry theses orders out!

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    6. Templarios are Christian? You are crazy! Is that why the police murdered a Catholic priest on orders of the Templarios. Your sence of religion is twistedly demonic!

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    7. Comply with orders? No real man would comply with those orders that would be a good reason to take out the commander giving that kind of order!

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    8. 7:50pm

      No, not Christian but "Christian", pay attention.

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    9. 11:09 like the scientologists, the mormon and the teabaggers, the ct are not even a religion, they are just one more communist cult, dedicated to brainwashing people out of THE MONEY!!!

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    10. @12:33,bullshit idiot.the ORIGINAL knights Templars were christian Satanists who sodimized boys and killed them in rituals.they Aldo sodomized babies and ate them.Tim rifat you tube

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    11. 2:32am

      You too, PAY ATENTTION:

      I said nothing of the original Templars but only wrote about the Mexican Templarios who claim to be "Christian" (by the way, your history "lesson" was a bit off).

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    12. 9:38,you must get your history lessons from TV,like a good little robot.keep sleeping pajama boy.now,you PAY ATTENTION!

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    13. 10:28am

      I stopped watching TV in the mid 90's and now watch some cable channels now and then. I read history. You didn't directly address my last post. Apologies for my spelling.

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  14. Wow 13 month old killed...entire family tortured and executed and the women all raped. Speechless. I just dont understand it...how could anyone do that? I just dont understand how mexico seems to produce so many young men that have zero problems with doing EVIL things....for chump change. I hope they all rot for eternity in hell.

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  15. Best thing is for them to die fighting(running if they CT), if they get caught, eventually they will be released. You know how it is, they make a big deal with presentations and taking credit, but they never show the part when they walk out of jail due to a technicality.

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  16. Bottom line, Mexico has become a haven or nest of serial killers. The Mexican government is just as much to blame for letting the killings to continue. As I was growing up as a kid I would always hear "En Mexico la vida no vale nada" seems as if instead of getting better it has gotten worst.
    What pisses me off even more is that instead of the US government doing something about it they are more concerned about the Syrians and Ukranians. With everything that is happening around us I sometimes wonder if we are living on earth or are we living in hell?

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    1. The same U.S. Government that shakes hands with Enrique Pena Nieto and the PRI that wanted to take away weapons from the Auto Defensas?

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    2. @10:27 p.m i agree! I am a u.s citizen and wish our gvt and media would wake the fuck up to the plight of mexico! I just dont know where their heads are at about this! Oh yea, theyre analyzing the inside of their rectums!

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  17. It's sad that this does not shock me anymore. Even the lowest level scum used to have some humanity. Woman children and defenseless were always spared. I'm ashamed that these cowards are from Mexico. Men used to have a code, No woman, children, or defenseless were spared! Now these coward cartel fucks don't have the BALLS to go after another grown man with bigger hairy balls, and instead pick a soft easy target. So fucking tough going after defenseless family members. I will have no sympathy when these sick disgusting fucks get what's coming to them! Caballeros? More like Culeros! Tampons!

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    1. Kill ct where you find them.kill them in the hills,kill them in the city,kill them at the brach,kill them in the USA,kill them in Europe,KILL the all!!

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  18. The rule of law starts with people actually believing and fighting for it! There cannot he a civil society without people policing each other. If somebody gives you an order to kill children, woman, and old defenseless people thats were men with real balls say hell no, just like scarface Al Pacino!

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  19. And them heartless scumbag lowlifes are being imitated and worshipped in corridos by thousands of young Mex/Americans all over Los Angeles... Its all cool and fun n games until its someone in their family that falls victim to this evil called narco-trafficantes. Its time to wake up Raza!

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    1. People will still bump Corridos no matter what other people say, corridos have been around for generations even since the Mex Revolution and just like Narco Traficantes have been around. Corridos back in the days use to tell you stories about injustice, tragedies, dangers of being in the drug world, and consequences of being in the drug game or the reason why alot young men join organize crime not all Corridos glorify drug trafficking. But I know people are going talk shit on my post saying "stop being a cartel nuthugger or stop defending these lowlifes" if there wasn't any poverty there wouldn't be narco traficantes, if marijuana was legal in the first place these Narco Traficantes would of been honest and good business men. And what pisses me off is that Paisas treat marijuana like it's the Devil's plant but don't know the positive for using marijuana. And the other thing that pisses me off is that our.government wants to legalize weed, then what was the point of going after these Traficantes in the first place? What was the point of this drug war if we were going to legalize weed?
      Do you see my point in this?

      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VLu0OIaSivM#

      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LYVPziyw_Ng#

      Listen to these see if all Corridos glorify drug trafficking

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    2. You're right, corridos originated during the mexican revolution. It was a way to spread news about their struggles and purpose of fighting. It told of revenge, vengeance and glory. Los alegres de teran have the best corridos next to Los cadetes de linares. It was chalino sanchez and Los tigeres that started narco corridos but it was a different type of narco corrido. It didn't talk about cutting heads and torturing. It was all about one on one, toe to toe. Like what true Mexican men are about. Music has influenced a lot of generations just like rap in the 80 and 90s when street gangs had cities under siege, same influence with no purpose. At the end of the day, when the drugs arrive to their destination, the buyer doesn't know what drug cartel it belongs to. The consumer only cares who's got the best bang for the buck. That's what these ignort new generation Mexicans don't understand.

      I like to remember mi Mexico querido with corridos like "Carabina 30-30" look that one up

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    3. Old school corridos are fine,up until Chalino Sanchez everything started going down hill..I think we need to start by stop listening to guys like Gerardo Ortiz,Comander,and a few others...they SUCK BALLS...worst singers ever.

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    4. How would a Templario corrido be like? Te tengo miedo, mejor mato a au nino de 13 meses ay ya yaiiii!! No tengo wevos para confrontarte, mejor mato a tu familia ay ya yaiiiii!! No tengo novia mejo me secuestro una la violo y la mato ay ya yaiiii!!!

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    5. @1:36..El Comander would turn those lyrics there into a ballad..crappiest singer of all time next to el gavilan,I think his name was Ricardo cerda,remember that retard..

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    6. @1:36 i wonder if you know the difference between a mexican song vincente fernandez would sing& a corrido. Ay ya yaii? That doesn't sound like a corrido at all lol sorry

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    7. @1:36 PM: it looks like a Templario version of EL CUERVO
      "El Cuervo En Una Ladera, Lloraba Su Soledad Ay ya ya yaii"
      Ahaha...

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  20. Man,,i hope all the ct get captured and get raped in prison,and tortured..i would love to join the fight againts ct if i didnt have a family too support in the us

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  21. I can't believe those sick mother fuckers killed an infant... I hope puta and all the bitch templarios get killed and not captured...

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  22. I hope all those putos fall and get their heads chop off by the ad.

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  23. Fuck the ct I hope they all rot in hell!!!!

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  24. la tuta will be killed or captured its only a matter of time now. If mexico as the DEA for help they will find la tuta. Since he believes in jesus so much we should just arrange a meeting for him with a bullet to the head.

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  25. 13 persons, kidnapped, 7 months ago, interred, right on templarios turf, who needed no more trouble than they had...
    can we stop for a minute and think?
    i do not care one bit about the temporary cartel, i hate the ct about as much as any one, but frankly there are people not so sainctly around, with big beefs against the ct, who hate the ct enough to heat things even more for them, one of them, miguel angel gallegos godoy, aka "el traficante mas poseroso de tierra caliente" who seems to be a master manipulator and said to be having personal problems with kike plancarte, and by extension, with all the ct. his powerful connections with politicians from the capital city and drug traffickers form before the ct was born, have assured him survival and precedence over the uncout ct, and their politica ranchera, the cartels are not widely known for burying their victims for a later discovery, this doesn't look like their style, the sneaky job stinks to high heaven...

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  26. Narcofosas;

    the government estimated in 2010 there were 25,000 buried narco victims along the border states. Knowing government down plays numbers, and adding in other states there must be upwards of 150k buried by narcos, and 99.9% will never be found.

    It is interesting how in some states most narco victims are buried in fosas, yet the same cartel in another state will incinerate victims. zetas in tamps bury in fosas, in coahuila they incinerate as much or more.

    I know most often cartels bury, unless sending a message, or in a balacera, but I wonder why some are incinerated at all. fosas are quicker, easier and less noticeable.

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  27. How did Everything Get So Crazy?March 6, 2014 at 1:23 AM

    @ Canadian 8:35 - "in the world today those lines are blurry... when did the people... decide to stop helping... and instead go take from others"?

    When you ask? When did the "good guys" become the "bad guys"?
    Well I'm sure some will blame it all on Bush, and others on Obama, and maybe some who were adults during the 90s would say Clinton, but that's being way too simplistic. Maybe you're familiar with they saying, "In order to be 'The Man', you first must beat 'the man'"? Or perhaps, "Out with the old and in with the new"? In other words there is a price to be paid, when there is a hostile take over.

    The streets of America's cities have seen quite a few changes over the years. First the Irish immigrants, who were still outcasts in the new world, were the dominant presence of criminal activity dating back to the early 1800s. The late 1800s, saw a rise in immigration from southern and eastern Europe; when poor southern Italians immigrated, primarily from Campania (Naples), Calabria (Reggio) and Sicilia (Palermo); and Camorristi, 'Ndranghitiari, and Mafiusu followed them to America bringing La Mano Nera (Black Hand). These new immigrants, who, historically, didn't trust governance (Pezzonovante), instead paid the Pizzu (protection tribute). Jews, immigrating mostly from eastern Europe, brought their deft touch for the business of Usury(Loan Sharking) and Vigorish (Bookmaking) to the table of America's developing underworld.

    84 years ago, in 1930, there was a war between these old Black Hand guys, known as Mustache Petes, and the Young Turks (Irish, Itallian, and Jewish gangsters) who won the war by 1931 and formed the Commission. Out with the old, and in with the new.

    For the next 60 years they pretty much ran everything. Everyone had to answer to them in one way or another. They were largely responsible for establishing what everybody came to accept as normal everyday life. They were resented by some, envied by others, but one things for sure, they practiced Omerta (silence), and as long as a person followed rules of "common sense" everything was generally ok.

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  28. How did Everything Get So Crazy?March 6, 2014 at 1:32 AM

    (part 2)
    Well, in answer to your question, in the 1990s there was a war for the streets of America, and a NEW version of "young Turks" won out, and all the lesser criminal groups were now "vetted". Out with the old, and in with the new. Outlaw Bikers were no longer just "hired muscle" for the mob; other various gangs now found it novel to call themselves "mafia", no longer fearing reprisals. In the wake of the LA Riots, urban gangs from Chicago and Los Angeles began fanning out throughout the united states, "claiming" new territory and from 1992-1997, their hostile take over saw many drive-by shootings and gangland murders. Before the 90s a stunt like that would NEVER have happened!

    Those who will defend the NEW, will say that it was time for CHANGE. They say that the old guys were bigoted, racist, sexist, etc. At first, the "NEW" thugs seemed to promise that EVERYONE would be equal under their rule... but then again somebody just has to be the scape goat. After all, being vindictive and getting political is just too damn tempting to pass up! So equal has come to specifically mean, "As long as them white men stop acting so damn 'white', I mean seriously, they don't run shit no more, they needs to be on our tip, like wannabes".

    One thing you have to admit, though, just because it's NEWER doesn't mean it's necessarily BETTER, and usually things deteriorate from bad to worse, Like using 9-11 (bad) as an excuse to get us involved in Iraq(worse), or like going from vice being operated in a strictly businesslike way(bad) to "armed-muscle" forming their own groups, and then unleashing all of that "special forces" training onto innocent babies, women, elderly, children, and in broad daylight(WORSE!!!).

    In order to overthrow some establish group, you have to not just be as evil, ruthless, and cold blooded as they are (bad), you have to take it up a notch and be even more despicable (worse)! It's all about fear, and in order to scare the people into bowing down to your NEW power you got to shock the shit out of them. "There's a new sheriff in town!"... (2 months later) BANG! CHOP! CUT! "Ok listen up. There's a new sheriff in town!"... (2 months later)...
    Eventually Nuclear Holocaust, Apocalypse, Armageddon.
    Get it?

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    1. Balls to go up against another man will always be the way to win respect. There may have always been some lost devilish souls throughout history go the cowardly route for the shock factor and they always just get the people to turn against them! No excuses you break the man code you are a walking deadman with torturous nightmares for the rest of your existance, not to mention the tortured soul in the afterlife! Sick bastards!!

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  29. These are the horrifying tragedies that more than well justify legalization of drugs. Wishing ill on these cabrones del diablo cannot undo the atrocities they have committed or bring their victims back to life sin embargo, "a hierro matas, a hierro mueres." To honor the thousands whose lives were brutally stolen by narcos, los z y el gobierno there is no choice but to legalize in their name. DEA are even lower than los z, nobody's government gets any brownie points for doing what's right for everyday people on the drugs' score and to this day, los gringos use the Kiki Cammera killing to sell their bogus drug war and hide the cocaine and weapon that financed the Nicaraguan Contras on the gringo dime.1985 was an unforgettable year for DEA meddling in Colombian, Mexican and Central American politics as well as introducing crack to LA. To hell with them all--DEA, Cartels and corrupt public servants.

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  30. Studies have shown lower IQ people have a predisposition to violence.
    Mexico is very violent.
    And so is America where the latin gangbangers operate!

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    1. Can you please cite those studies especially if they have been peer reviewed?

      Junius

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    2. I agree,what about the hills of Kentucky,where all your relatives live..you little chin,toothless jerk.

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    3. @5:10 a.m ted bundy disproved that theory! He was highly intelligent and highly violent! Oh and not to mention ted kazinski a.k.a the unibomber!

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    4. If that is true then The C.T. members opperate on just on a brain stem!

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    5. 1:42,Bundy is also the name of one of the13 illuma..nati families.

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    6. 1:30 and none as rich as the Elan de Rothschild,
      500 000 000 000.00 $ dls by some accounts,all his!?!???
      70 000 000 000.00 $ dls Carlos Slim Helu, of the lebanese lost tribe, only 70 billion, all his, but all stolen from the mexicans over the last 30 years.

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    7. Actually the Roth's have several trillions,x,000,000,000,000,000.
      Your too short

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  31. All movements need symbols for their movement.
    AD should use this mass murder as one of their symbols, so they should never forget!

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    1. Then the C.T members including the maayor of Apatzingan must be just above mentally retarded!

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  32. Thank you Mr. President u really care about your people. Let them get killed it doesn't matter to u, u are safe, but not us

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  33. Ok TUTA. IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO MAKE A VIDEO AND EXPLAIN WHY YOU HAVE ALLOWED THESE ANIMALS TO DO THIS. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE. CHILDREN? ENTIRE FAMILY? FUCK ING ASSHOLES!!!!!

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  34. There is never any kind justification in killing innocent women and children,how they could even contemplate this is beyond most of our comprehension.This is another proof(if one were needed)that the CT couldn't care less about Michoacan families and people.The only"crime" that this family committed is that the father joined the AD?If that is reason to wipe a family out this tells everyone about the morality and so-called rules that the CT abide by..NOTHING.AND PLEASE PLEASE LETS NOT HAVE ANYONE DARE DEFEND PIGS WHO CAN KILL AN ENTIRE FAMILY.The timing of this find somewhat disturbs,but whatever the case,this is beyond all right thinking men and women.No wonder Father Goyo is crying,how can it come to this?

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  35. March 5, 2014 at 8:35 PM
    "canadian against American foreign policy and ideals" ?
    Are you hoping to get some brownie points with your little name you silly bitch,yeah we know ALL our respective governments have somewhat less than trustworthy ideals,but doing your little protest?What else can we expect from a Canadian?If you caught the CT you would make sure no-one executed them and fight for their rights to be given fair trial.Well fuck that mealy mouth,we all should feel outraged about murder,rape,child killings,know what i mean?Yeah,you probably don't?Pathetic,seriously...

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  36. This is exactly why i sated here"hopefully"the AD chase and kill the CT as they find them.No surrenders,they have gone way beyond the bounds of human morality with this kind of repeated behavior.If they have committed crimes such as this,what kind of help are they to the Mexican people as a whole in any case?Do we want gangs and"men"who kill and rape little children living amongst us?Where is the benefit to Mexican people who know who these dogs are and what they did?No Amnesty no surrenders,they have gone way to far to reintegrate into any decent society.The CT know what the consequences are,time to pay up,the problem is are people strong enough to kill them without all the bullshit about"we become just like them"that's the point,we are not like them,every society needs the rule of law and people to abide by it.They chose not to abide by anything at all,neither gods law or mans?

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  37. Y LA MALDAD SE TRIPLICO"
    Y EL AMOR SE INFRIO"
    ARREPENTIOS GENERACION DE VIBORAS"

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  38. Y EL PRESIDENTE PENA INEPTO NO HACE NADA:(

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  39. I hope they capture el puto Chayo and his accomplice piece of shit nephew mayor and that puto tuta. No, better yet, I hope they have the balls to fight it out with the military and get their asses pumpled full of lead. I'm tired of all these pussy mafia leaders bragging how how they have respect, yet they murder innocent famiies and children, they bragg how tuff they are, yet they are captured with not a single shot fired....corruption starts at the top and I hope the Auto Defensas kill, arrest, and or fire all these corrupt governors, mayors, and police chiefs...

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  40. Here is a question. What if was AD that did for them being CT???

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    1. Take your meds Rollo,its your bedtime.

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  41. If the ct didn't know already, this will put them in the grave for good. in business as in war there will be collateral damage this far exceeds collateral damage. there is no soul worth saving in that group of filth. I now wonder if any ct will be takin alive once there surrounded by Mexicos finest I can't imagine any one of those marines wouldn't wanna pull the trigger than take them alive. days of kidnapping, extortion, and murder are coming to an end for this cartel. the world is behind you Mexico and the few brave autodefensas are heroes.

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  42. These PIECE OF SHIT,Cartel Members all deserve to be executed, there has to be a change in the in the Mexican "Justice" system that would actually deter these low level scumbags from committing these heinous acts, the only real fear these piece's of shit have is being extradited to the U.S to serve time in solitary confinement, but the only people the U.S extradites are the Capos, and these murderers walk around with impunity. Punish all known members with minimum SEVERE sentences!!
    All of Mexico should rise up with the Autodefensas and overpower and overthrow this Mafia government that refuses to punish all of its golden geese.

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  43. La tuta's son was captured last monday for kidnapping and extortion

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    1. Burn him alive.in his cell.

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  44. @anonymous 12:43 AM "if there wasn't any poverty there wouldn't be narco traficantes, if marijuana was legal in the first place these Narco Traficantes would of been honest and good business men" In what Utopian world will you find no poverty, and do you really think that greed is only driven by the lack of the legalization of marijuana? Clear your head - put down the weed pipe, return to school, take upper level courses in Economics, Political Science for a start. The complete lack of understanding and simplistic solutions offered by uneducated people is astounding. You might also want to focus and research political corruption throughout history and its consequences.

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    1. I graduated from High School and economics would be hard for me due to the fact I struggled alot in math since I was child sorry that I dont have the same IQ as you do sir or mam. I was just stating the facts of the hypocrisy within governments. And I dont need to research corruption ive already done that and I see it happening Mexico all the time.
      And one more thing sir or mam can you do your own research on Marijuana? And tell me how bad it really is dont be a sheep don't say that It's cause "the people on TV told me so" no come at me with your own facts because id rather smoke weed than to drink beer...

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    2. 11:11am practice what you preach?

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    3. 3:36 get your smoked outass to school junkie.playtimes over sir,ma'am.

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  45. 10:41

    There was not a confirmation about the arrest up till last night. can you send a link to the story IF it has the confirmation?

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    1. El Universal has it posted on FB.

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  46. Got it! But wow still not confirmed , the guy arrested says he is tuta's illegitimate son of tuta. why would he say that? weird, like chapos fake pregnant daughter.

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  47. Everybody wants to hate on the Templars now...5 years ago michoacanos creidos wanted to be like the Sinaloas and worship the cartel of their state..then the saw how dirty they were..and now they 're talking all this smack about them,,Pinche bola de pendejos los Michiacanos...no saben Ni a quen irle...bola de idios patas rajadas..

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  48. Thank you for all the forwarded links and info about Tuta's love child..
    appreciate it!!!!

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  49. Numerous studies link low IQ to violent behavior, delinquency, and adult crime. In fact, as Bruce Bower recently noted in Science News, "Intelligence deficits make up one of the most firmly established characteristics of criminal offenders as a whole.
    A new study by Peter Giancola and Amos Zeichner, however, suggests that IQ and aggression are strongly linked even in non-criminal males. The researchers, who tested 30 males between the ages of 18 and 36 years, found "strong inverse correlations between IQ and aggressive behavior under both high and low provocation conditions."
    If you do some research you will find more of these facts.
    I know this type of facts are politically incorrect, however, the facts are the facts.

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    1. Thanks. I see a lot of correlation but as any freshman in college would know that's not causation. It's easy to slip into hasty generalizations.

      Junius

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  50. Play nice with the Canadians, they mean well despite their awkward cluelessness. Canadians are pathos driven to over analysis. Mexicans possess a passion for life that's a source of pride. If, Canada ever had a revolution, it would be petty, perfect and polite, finished by midnight. Canadians would get up the next day, pleased the country's only revolution minded its manners, then continue their snooze through history, even their own. VIVA MEXICO! LA RAZA EL PUEBLO! PEACE.
    Toronto

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  51. Chivis, I don't understand why you will not post my message and allow any cowardly CT to email?

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  52. @7:52 your commander surely has men that will take your ass out the moment you refuse to follow his lead, blessed with impunity from above!
    @1:23 the forces fighting for legalization have scored a few hitz, backed by politicians hoping to make a killing growing their own grifa on their own farms, and selling it legally on their own dispensaries.
    drug traffickers pushing for legalization, just want to carry on with the dirty business with impunity. if the idea were to stick it to traffickers, the US could pay the growers 10 times more money, supply addicts for much less money and steal the business from low life pushers, and have a lot of money left over, any kind of drugs.
    the taliban had almost extinguished drug trafficking on afghanistan before the US allies restored it to the olympic proportions it enjoys now, with beheadings being the best deterrent for those that wanted to even think about it, increasing poppy growing to over 1 000% now.
    china tried to kick drug trafficking out due to the social and economic cost to the country over 200 years ago, the british restored it with their mighty warships and weapons, and carried on with it all through maoism, and all over the world, making trillions and trillions of dollars in the process.
    the legalization of drug trafficking in the US represents a giving up and a selling out to the bankers that have laundered drug money all over the world through the centuries, and the economy of the US will not see any benefits from legalization, unless it becomes a communist slave holding exploiter of its workforce, exactly the program of the neo-liberals that propose that that is exactly GOD's purpose in creating for them capitalism and a free country to stick it to by any means necessary.
    Fuck legalization and globalism!

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    1. @10:06 PM: Hi I am the same guy from 1:23 post, I guess you're right even if marijuana was fully legalized, the Globalist would take over the business and still fuck the people over

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  53. Tjjs is why i support the sef defense movement to get rid of these monters

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  54. Maybe this world is another worlds hell

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  55. March 6, 2014 at 1:32 PM
    "@10:27 p.m i agree! I am a u.s citizen and wish our gvt and media would wake the fuck up to the plight of mexico!"
    Einstein,if the US are absolutely aware of the situation in Mexico and lets say desperately wanted to help,,what do you think Mexico would do?Would Mexico welcome that help with open arms?

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  56. March 6, 2014 at 3:33 PM
    "Numerous studies link low IQ to violent behavior, delinquency, and adult crime"
    Does that mean i,m the missing link to neanderthal man?My intelligence quotient is single digit,i cant even use a fork without injuring my eye and thinking gloomy thoughts about life as we know it ?
    It makes me want to get my club out and have a bash.Double entendre anyone?

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  57. March 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM
    "Play nice with the Canadians, they mean well despite their awkward cluelessness"
    Oh dude that was cold,definitely cold but succint and rather to the point old boy

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  58. March 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM
    "Canadians are pathos driven to over analysis"
    Err,did i say it was succinct and to the point,driven by a keen observation?

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  59. March 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM
    What are you doing there then?Hating on all the people?The motherland is calling,will you forsake her in her time of need?Course he will,,hes another pussy false claimer,theres a million of him.

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    1. False claimer? Haha hey bro do you gang bang or what?

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  60. @" How did Everything Get So Crazy?"

    How did Everything Get So Long Winded and Convoluted ?

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  61. @1:49 maybe because of all the disinformation loong winded and even more convoluted... stick to reading "el chapo snitched" posts and keep your sanity, sean hannity; by the way, faux news has all the poppycock all done cooked and regurgitated for you...

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  62. In reality these poor poor Mexicans . As if they do not have it bad enough.
    Some people in the U.S. just do not want to hear about these poor people dying. Seriously , they could care less about their fellow humans to the south.
    I was educated in the cloth , ended up a soldier. Now find myself humiliated when exposing Mexican atrocities. Nobody cares, the media does not care, the people do not care , nobody cares about 65 cadavers in a mass grave . Nobody gives a damn . " Its too negative" and is bad for tourism.

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  63. @3:36 to each his own, but grifa like the other hard drugs, being managed from the top, for the money they make for those on the top, give it all a bad name, the ones that grow, naver make any money, cutting the middlemen, and any hope of profit for the pushers would bring down prices for the addicts, and drop crime rates, costs of imprisonment, and make more momey for the government than it costs to keep waging a lost war on the addicted, other crimes would come up of course, to be dealt when they come up.
    of couse expropriating the money of those that got it through irregular means, would be the most wonderful thing, if only utopia were not so far away...

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