Wednesday, February 26, 2014

Narcomantas:Los Zetas celebratory over the capture of Chapo

Borderland Beat

On  Tuesday several "narcomantas" were hung in various cities such as  Ciudad Victoria, Nuevo Laredo and other entities in which members of the criminal group "Los Zetas" are in celebration over the capture of the Sinaloa cartel leader, Joaquin Archivaldo Guzman Loera, known as " El Chapo Guzmán. " 

An sample of banner text as follows (difficult to translate):
"Once again the fate of the fucking chaputos is shown, they will not fit in anywhere, not in prison, nor in hell, because Los Zetas will be there. For all the fucking smelly chaputos  that bring the instruction of the Chapo's informant, let’s see where they will go,  they have nowhere to go. They are circling  in the same pan...”  sincerely  the Zetas unit.

At dawn the banners were removed by members of the State Police and Federal Police. A similar situation occurred in Mazatlán, Sinaloa, where on Saturday an elite group  of the Mexican Navy, with coordination of DEA  arrested "El Chapo Guzmán".


Meanwhile in Culiacán, Sinaloa, citizens organized a protest march, to liberate Chapo Guzmán

137 comments:

  1. Zetas are in a lot worse situation than the Sinaloans. They are being led by 'Fredo' Trevino. They make no more news, then are dying on the vine.

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    1. They ain't even got a connect anymore since Lazcano went down.

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    2. Kiko Treviño is nothing more than a child rapist and murderer. He hangs around La Malquerida night club and el Juega Juega with Carlos Cantu Villarreal the Nuevo Laredo city major. His dad was Carlos Enrique Cantu Rosas, a well known local politician, but he uses his dad last names together as political leverage, but his real name is Carlos Cantu Villarreal

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    3. Hahaha!! "I'm your older brother, Mike, and I was stepped over"!

      Fredo Treviño is running the Z's.

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    4. hahaha zetas ant shit any more look at monterry they had it on lock down but what happen cartel del golfo came and fuck them up and chupo people doin there move on monterry so they are done and the recent they are party is because chapo got lock up they are happy because in real life they were scare of CHAPO thats they are party fucking little bitches and no matter what Sinaloa is goin to be strong non is goin to chang just because chapo is lock up

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    5. You guys better hope and pray Donald Trump is not elected!
      Nothing in the USA!

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  2. Uh oh! Shit could get crazy again.

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  3. I wonder if zetas will try to take chapos plazas

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    1. They will need dope in order to do that.

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    2. Well, they could trade all stolen items they've collected since 2005! Lol just sayin'

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    3. They need a big pair to do that

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    4. Not a chance in hell dude. El Mayo is the numbero uno now

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    5. Mayo is a wuss he don't want war with anyone

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    6. In order to take the sinaloa plaza, the zetas need to take out the federation heads (mayo and el azul), and if that for some miraculous reason occurs, they still have to deal with the blo.....fat chance zetas, better to stay in ur place! Culichi has its rightful owners!

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  4. Its all fun and games in the dope world till your own family members suffer from addiction and the destruxtion it causes... They are all murderes, theives and evil.

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    1. Nobodys forcing your family members. To put stuff up your noses.you are dooing that yourselves.have some personal responsibility for your actions AND as a family.

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  5. I knew they would be placing banners over this. Very predictable. But there right on Zetas being everywhere...

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  6. reallyyyyy! Mejor se hubieran quedado callados y se mirarian mejor... En fin los Zetas ya no son lo que eran antes. A los trevinos les quedo grande el papel de "jefe" No dan el ancho..... cuidadano de Reynosa

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  7. "The Zetas Unit"
    "Special Forces of los Zetas"
    "FirstResponseZetas"
    "LoboNegroZetas"
    Too big. Too tacticly proficient!

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    1. Zetas bullshit, they're nothing but a bunch of homeless drug addicts who live of maruchan noodle soups and have never had 25 cents in their pockets.

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    2. Amen brother...

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  8. Who are they kidding, they're finished.... Not to say I condone any of the cartels but ls zetas aren't even a cartel any more are they

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  9. It is said in other media sources that the plan is to dismantle the structure of the sinaloa cartel. Yes as one falls there's ten more in line waiting but while a new leader rises there's chaos that's where the zetas take advantage and all hell is going to break loose. Pretty soon were going to see auto defensas in sinaloa.

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    1. The ambassador to the usa said chapo will serve out his previous sentence and will also face new charges in mexican court. Guess we will find out

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  10. What the hell they bragging about their two bosses went down last year.

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  11. Kill them both. Chapo did start all the wars.. Juarez tj Laredo. Zetas made it worse.

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    1. Zetas was formed by Osiel to stop Chapo from going into his turf because Chapo wanted to take over CDG plaza of Laredo..
      In my opinion it's basically Chapo's fault that they exist in first place

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    2. to 11:50 and 1:34 The reason Chapo invaded NLaredo was because the CDG/Zetas were starting to invade Nuevo Leon CDS/Beltranes' plaza and it was revenge for Cejas Weras' murder by Osiel.

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    3. And that they did very well until this day laredo is under zeta control Regardless of what golfo and chapo fanboys might say

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    4. They tried to STEAL one of osiel shipments after he had paid permiso. In Laredo. Osiel got pissed. Thats when z made presence no more than 30 maybe,the real ones. And the Laredo bosses at that time, got wiped. His intention was to Pay ,which he did and they tried to steal and they died. Thats why ozzy took n.laredo. Then z where mostly from the south and down there, kidnappings are pretty common, and dey brought that shit to the north. Chapo sent la barbie witha couple of hundred Kens from michoacan, and they got smoked. Yhe war escalated and they started recruiting common criminals. Pretty much all the original z founders where gone by then..

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    5. 4:41 pm, Kiko Treviño is only killing and raping women and children, and Omar aka Z42 or El Patuleco is hiding like a beaten dog, he only walks with a cane, besides he is taking pills for his Dawn Syndrome disability, and here in Nuevo Laredo everyone know he likes men.

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  12. So in 12+ years that Chapo was a fugitive, you would think that he groomed someone of his highest regard and confidence to take over if by chance the government caught up to him. Of which they did, so there has to be somone in his place right now taking over his fraction. That is the Chapo fraction of CDS in Sinaloa, Sonora- Gente Nueva, Chihuahua- Gente Nueva and other states in Mexico. While his partners in the US are still structured, his empire still remains in tact. Then you have MZ, who still holds his side of the empire along with big blue AZUL. I would think maybe El LIC takes control alongside his (Chapos kids) IAG and Alfredo with the support of el M GRANDE and BLUE. The Zetas still have nothing on CDS unless they have the backing of BLO and Carrilos. Those are the only threats to Chapos fraction and I don't see MZ letting them creep into his home turf anytime soon.

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    1. Your right. But it won't be long until he (Chapo) will trade his infrastructure to the Mexican Government. This is the only way he will prevent his extradition.
      There will be big busts in the U.S. as well.

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    2. Gente nueva doesn't exist anymore la linea took them out

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    3. I don't see that happening completely. His empire is bigger than Chapo himself and I think he knows that. He knows he will die in jail, I do see him giving up info on others he does not care for though. Would Chapo give up all he has built for so long?

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  13. Zetas? Those guys are still around?? They are soooo 2013....

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  14. What do Los Zetas and President Pena Nieto have in common, besides greed and dishonesty?
    They both know Guzman's arrest won't affect CDS' operations, but they both publicly state that it IS significant because having the public believe that serves their own ends.

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    1. This is the lamest attempt at a joke. Ever

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    2. Cds is on life support right now

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  15. They're all evil, chapo included, but if you have shades of evil, zetas are the darkest shade and the worst of the worst of the worst from what i've read. If i had to choose, i'd choose to live in an area controlled by CDS rather than one controlled by Z's or CTs.

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  16. Why can't these cowards hang them in sinaloa, all they do is talk shit from a distance,fckn rats....

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  17. zetas are fucking idiots didn't they read the news last year Z3 was killed and Miguel was arrested so im pretty sure they are hte losing cartel the chapos. I can't stand zetas because they kill innocent people and have no qualms about it at least chapo just ran drugs and maybe killed a zeta when he could but he didn't mess with innocent lemond and alvocado farmers

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    1. Thats all true bro I want to step on a zeta like a fly with no wings jiji

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  18. They are calling chapo an informant, when it was mention that trevino was also an informant for the dea. Lamez

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  19. SIGAN FESTEJANDO PINCHIS CULONES AVER CUANDO SE TOPAN ALOS CHINGASOZ CON LOS DEL GOLFO YA ACABARON LAS LETRAS MARCADAS SO VERGA CON SUS DISKE MANTAS PURA GN RIFA EL SR GUZMAN PESE AL QUIEN LE PESE PUTOS!!!!

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    1. Calmate pendejo te vas a venir en el teclado

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  20. Where were the Zetas when the military were removing their banners?

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  21. And .who are the zetas again ? .I just dont remember them any more .

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  22. This maggots are just kidnapping and extorting people they don't even move anything c.d.g beat their ass...they are old news.

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  23. The Z is surviving off extortions, kidnappings and robbery. It's only a matter of time until they become extinct.

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  24. i notice the blankets are not being hung in sinaloa because they are afraid. when real zetas hang blankets in culiacan, badriaguato, then you will know they have arrived. don't hold your breath.

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  25. Couple of people already said it, but all this will do is make another cartel stronger. Members of CDS that feel threatened, or believe their cartel is going to loss now that Chapo is gone will look for work with other Cartels. Maybe its time for El Azul(and of course El Mayo) to fully take charge...but he's to smart for that. He'll make sure someone else is the person in (figure head) charge, and he'll continue to pull strings behind the scene.

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  26. im waiting to see how long before the Mexican people rise up against the coward murderous extortionist and kidnappers for ransom aka the los zetas who terrorize and prey on the hardworking innocent people of mexico. mexico belongs to the Mexican people and they should unite and stand up against the zetas as they did towards la puta and his knights Templars.

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  27. Its chess not checkers! Js

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  28. Hey chivis any chance of seeing the original text from the mantas, in Spanish for those of us who might be able to help translating? Also, Doriga tweeted out word of marches being held in favor of chapos release in culiacan, any word of that? Just wondering. Peace - M

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  29. who's taking over Chapo you ask. two words for you, Chapo Ysidro

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    1. Chapo isidro is handling in sinaloa. Guzman is having a hard time with isidro. That shooting in the gas station at el burrion. That's an example of how strong chapo isidro is.

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  30. So they pretty much said Zetas are in Hell or in Prison so dont come there ... That's not much of a threat. Idk, maybe it's just me?

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  31. "...when I heard all the noise I knew they were cops. Only cops talk that way. If they had been wiseguys, I wouldn't have heard a thing..."

    "Don't buy anything. Don't get anything. Nothing big. Didn't you hear what I said?...you're going to get us all fuckin' pinched, that's why. What are you, stupid?"

    "Everybody gets pinched. But you did it right. You told 'em nothing and they got nothing...I'm proud of you. You took your first pinch like a man and you learned the two greatest things in life...Never rat on your friends and always keep your mouth shut."

    "You all know Joey Zasa. He is, I admit, an important man. His picture is on the cover of the New York Times Magazine. He gets the Esquire Magazine award for the best dressed gangster. [the assembled Dons laugh] The newspapers praise him because he hires blacks into his family, which shows he has a good heart. Who knows, maybe someday he will make all of you popular...."

    Fame, makes a man take things over
    Fame, lets him loose, hard to swallow
    Fame, puts you there where things are hollow
    Fame
    Fame, it's not your brain, it's just the flame
    That burns your change to keep you insane
    Fame
    Fame, what you like is in the limo
    Fame, what you get is no tomorrow
    Fame, what you need you have to borrow
    Fame
    Fame, "Nein! It's mine!" is just his line
    To bind your time, it drives you to, crime
    Fame...


    Michael Corleone: Joe Zasa would never pull something like this without backing. He's just muscle, he's an enforcer, he's nothing. He doesn't have the wit for that helicopter attack. He doesn't even have the ambition to wipe out the whole Commission. Certainly not the balls.
    Vincent Mancini: I say we hit back and take Zasa out!
    Michael Corleone: [leaning to Vincent] Never let anyone know what you're thinking. [to Vincent, Connie and Neri] All right, let's get a ... let's get a message to Joey Zasa. I respect what he's done. The new overthrows the old, it's natural.
    Vincent Mancini: How can you do business with this guy?
    Michael Corleone: I'm a businessman, first and foremost. I want no conflict with anyone.
    Vincent Mancini: Well, you can tell him from me that he can live or he can die.
    Michael Corleone: Vincent, WILL YOU SHUT UP?!

    o·mer·tà
    ōˈme(ə)rtə,ˌômerˈtä/ a code of honor that values silence above all else. A refusal to be a witness, give up evidence, testimony... when you know that your whole life's worth comes down to always keeping your yammer shut, period.

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    1. Good excerpts from the Martín Scorcese's GOODFELLAS. My favorite movie. No Omerta going on in México or in the U.S.A. for that matter. I can tell you who lived-up to Omerta though. Juan Garcia Abrego. He did not sell out his subordinates in the CDG and did not give the U.S. govt. any money. That why they threw the book at him.

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  32. Los zetas r still high from the new years party lol a mi me diera verguensa desir que soy zeta

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  33. They took a week to make the banners pinches ratas i wonder where they got the sheets who got killed for the marker they used to write que verguensa para los zetas ya no son nadie

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  34. The "Z" unit??? Hopefully this has nothing to do with LLoyd Banks or those other douchebags but I wouldn't put it past our buddy Omar......

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  35. People have been saying they going down since they were formed, reality check the dwarf has never, and now never will set up shop in Nectar Lima so of course they have bragging rights fuck all you hating ass mofos pussy ass sapo couldn't stop the ZzZZZZ when he was free. This will only make the shrimps enemies stronger.

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  36. Mini lic y loz Antrax Jr's

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  37. ARRIBA EL CARTEL MAS PODEROSO DEL MUNDO QUE ES LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS JAJAJA

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    1. Y es la neta corneta amigo

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  38. Lets just hope the government starts getting cleaned up by prosecuting corrupt officials, if anything that may really be the best answer for these cartels to go away!

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  39. I remember the Zetas. They were big from 2006-2012, but seemed to disappear.

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  40. I will put money that there is not one person who knows anything for sure about the Zetaz who is commenting here.Facts,Zetaz still run there home base they still run a huge part of CV and Mante,they are still fighting Zaca,still in Coahuila and they are still in Monterey some Mexican bros might know more.You are all saying the Z are done,you mean the same way everyone said CDG was done?And look at the way they regrouped, admittedly with big help from GN/CDS etc,yup Z are hurting big time but done?

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  41. Z's are scum that prey on the weak.

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  42. Every Narco organization should band together and destroy the Zetas and CT once and for all.
    Kill them wherever they are, kill whomever gives them aid or protection.
    Show no mercy to their families either.

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  43. zetas are on their way out of Acuña all that is left is a bunch of rag tag stragglers. CDG is on the way in and hopefully zetas will be gone for good

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  44. Las Zorras, nomás torcieron a El Chapo y se salieron del agujero dónde estaban escondidas a ladrar de volada, hubieran ido a poner las mantas a Sinaloa, no en Monterrey, les tembló la güila.

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  45. Zorraz mugrozaz apeztozaz are fading viva la federacion yes chapo cayo but so did zorra 40 both big bosses down la lucha sigue

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  46. At least CDS took care of business against the zetas by trying to wipe em of the map the zetas were notorious for causing havoc destruction and violence towards the innocent I rather have chapo out to deal with these zetas but we'll see what mayo does now.

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  47. Lol chapo is a pussy he was scared to go out like a real man he aint ready to die el botas blancas si tuvo chuevos se murio en la ralla . D.e.p

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  48. Where's that puto that says he's an English Z! Zetas are pure garbage! They are roaches that are high on meth and living in gutters!

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    1. You know he's just a troll right?

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  49. BL and Carillos coming back now. Mayos is 65 yrs old he is old. El Azul doesn't have a problem with Beltran Leyvas and never was at war with them.A nephew of Azul el Buche was the leader of Acapulco for Arturo BL. El H "finance expert"has Chapo Isidro as one of his important lieutenant in Sinaloa H9, H2 in Nayarit. Chapos sons don't have the experience. " El Licensiado" is the only real threat and definitely in charge now of Chapos empire.If that wasn't enough Viceroy and BLO have most of Sinaloa already. Baja California is going to be theirs again and Sonora. Zetas have lost influence and I can see Z 42 losing plazas in exchange for "support" since they will never go back with CDG. El Licensiado is Chapos succesor and threat along with Mayo.

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  50. The 2nd banner was from Zs to CDG!!! They are calling Osiel an informant if you look closely

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  51. Cuilacan should be warned, Chapo is gone but Azul and Mayo are still lurking. grow some thicker skin if they don't want to be warning shot.

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  52. Con estos comentarios que dejaron los Chapo fans en este tema demuestra quien no los deja dormir agusto y hasta se revuelcan del coraje golpetiando sus teclados.....

    Doz Fronteras

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    1. Y tu guey nomas sales del cloce cuando agarran a alguien del cds pinche alucin ya vajate del avion vato alucinado ya deja de centirte bien narco del los mugrozoz por que El mismo vato q vive en nuevo laredo se las a cagado a ustedes y les dice donde vive y usteds como perritos nomas ladrando ..jajaja saludos al compa d nvo laredo q vive en la victoria y que siepre caga al doz perraz y los otros olgasanes q defienden a los mugrozitoz.

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  53. Chingen su madre los pinchez zzorras he dicho C.D.G. Comandante cherry

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  54. RCQ is going to run CDS

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  55. Not sure that I understand the Free "Chapo" protest. I thought all of Mx. wanted him in jail. Can someone explain please?

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  56. "Every Narco organization should band together and destroy the Zetas and CT once and for all.
    Kill them wherever they are, kill whomever gives them aid or protection.
    Show no mercy to their families either."

    you left out the BLO which uses the same tactics

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    1. And hopefully autodefensas form in all of Mexico n take out the rest of the cartels including the Mexican PRI government. Revolution needs to happen, we can't be pawns forever

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  57. "autodefensas" in Sinaloa is an oxymoron, we have been defending ourselves from communists since the Liga 23 de Septiembre with aid of the Federal Government but also with the citizens involved, we have been defending ourselves from extortionists and kidnappers since ever, defending ourselves is as natural as breathing, thank you for your concerns, but we will keep doing fine, nothing new under the sun here. I'm not affiliated with any ilegal activities, just a hard working Mexican who has seen what happens when oppression tries to jump in against the civilian population, good luck to all those places where the citizens live under the fear of thieves, robbers, rapists. kidnapers, and don't know what to do.

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  58. February 27, 2014 at 8:29 AM
    "I thought all of Mx. wanted him in jail. Can someone explain please?"
    Dude have you seen Culiacan?Its a nice place modern an all that shit,it must have a lot of money washing in there,plus a lot of people have relatives in the game and its safe.Chino Antrax was ridin round there wiith a big crew helping people in the floods recently before he was cracked,you can see where its comin from,whatever CDS is not the Zetaz or CT ?

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  59. vayan a colgaras en sinaloa aver que vergas son le tienen miedo todavia y eso que esta encerrado.yo este ano estaba en nuevo laredo y tienen puro pinche chamaco en los puntos con ninos de 10 anos de halcones y les pregunte porque y dicen que como tan bien jovenes los marinos los dejan ir

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  60. I find it staggering that many people here defend el chapo. He readily admitted to ordering the deaths of 2-3000 people. That is the same as pulling the trigger yourself. This makes him one of the worst mass murderers in recent history.

    Regardless of whom he killed , be they other drug dealers , extortionists , other cartel's members , who made him god with the power of life and death over whomever he chose to have killed?

    I know the macho attitude is prevalent in south America and USA having visited countries in south America and having visited many different USA states. Where " to shoot first and ask questions later " is acceptable and seen as macho by some.

    To all those cheer leaders of the cartels on BB , I say the world would be a much better place if none of you were in it, or if you changed your attitude towards your duty as a citizen , and respect to your fellow men and women things would improve immeasurably.

    I suspect this post will get some abusive replies , but before you condemn me for what I said here , know I served 14 years in the UK armed forces as a weapons specialist , as did serve my grandfathers , father and mother , aunts and uncles and cousins. I have been involved in battles large and small and regretted all of them as any loss of life , even soldiers on the other side leaves someone in the world with a life of pain living without lost loved ones.

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    1. Really? I'm a US Army Veteran, in the early 70's I was stationed in Germany and Italy, I jump and trained with both armies, also got French wings and in 1976 I trained and jumped with the SOSG(Special Operations Support Group) 7th Royal Paratrooper Regiment, with what unit did you served, we trained in the Salisbury Plains, and you? I'm a Mexican-American with family in the Mexican border, and I assure you that I don't support any drug cartels, and I personally don't like drug traffickers and what they do.

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  61. I am not sure how this will bring changes wirhin the Sinaloa group. Was Chapo the only one with cocaine contacts or did he had other probably family members bring in the cocaine?

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  62. February 27, 2014 at 9:09 AM "autodefensas" in Sinaloa is an oxymoron, we have been defending ourselves

    really? 1) if that were true there would be no Sinaloa cartel but facts are there is 2)communists? having heritage and doing research about latin America this usually means poor people who are fed up with corrupt gov(wich mexico has aplenty) finally 3) anyone can look up an article of something drug related that happened just today in Sinaloa if people in Sinaloa did defend themselves we would rarely hear of drug problems or atleast hear tones of self defense stories. so either your lying or just trolling

    btw here are two examples to further back my opinion

    Nine Dead in Sinaloa Christmas Eve Massacre dated Dec 27, 2012
    Civiles amagan con crear autodefensas en Sinaloa <= you tube vid dated Feb 4, 2014

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  63. UK Citizen, how do you like gun control. How do you feel bout your older relatives consuming many prescription meds when they really may not need all of them. How every medicine has a side effect and then you take another pill to counter and so on. How about the Ukraine movements? Stay inside your little box.

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  64. The US doesn't support "auto-defensas" it may influence many in the states and is not formidable for their control. Common sense. As other countries are exploiting Mexico it is not beneficial to allow movements to expand to form a revolution.

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  65. @11:56 @4:22 you have never confronted a pack of hungry wolves like a mexican paramilitary force full of federal police ex-police/ex-military elements with authority from the mexican government to do whatever, you would suffer the fate of kiki camarena.
    UK shitizen, not all murderers are the same, it is not the same to fight other narcos and kill or get killed, as chapito isidro going and killind a bunch of sleepy farmers, since his name is out, he is in hiding, and why do you think you can't win a couple of little wars against the wooly head armies of irak and afghanistan?, the people of other countries HATE foreigners that come to pacify and rescue them from poverty, and end up fucking them in the ass.
    all the parachutists in the world would be of more help if they stayed away jumping rope at home, instead of protecting poppy growers like in afghanistan and israel, the country that lend its ass to selling US weapons to iran, by agreement with the US that was selling weapons and poison gas to irak at the same time, with Donald Rumsfeld as the middle man.
    1 000 000 million deaths in the iran/irak war was not good enough?
    that was the intent when the Shah of iran was kicked out by the CIA for the UK to get its paws on the Shah's money, and the US embassy was taken to kick jimmy carter out too, by CIA big man george h w bush, a clown famous for acting with a monkey was smarter than george to get the presidency, but georg still carried out his other goals of war in the middle east and all over latin-america, you may be able soldiers, but you need to know who the hell you work for boys, the few nazis the CIA helped escape to america, are still fucking the world worse than you would ever imagine, through their disciples, and all they had to do was hang on tight to the rat line; 68 years latter, the US is fighting an unseen enemy, sophisticated sinister and effective, victorious too, from its knees, thanks to the many tentacled hydra of their own mercenary forces that got them in debt to fight other people's wars, while their parchutistas were dancing the seven veils dances for them, possibly with their parachutes covering their eyes...
    i recommed you to see "The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan", have fun...

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    1. You shouldn't be commenting if you didn't served, we don't get our combat expertise reading stupid books written by some coward sob. After I came back from USAREUR I was a liaison officer in charge of supervising training between the US and Mexican Army, because I'm bilingual I assigned as a translator during the White Angel Operation (Operación Angel Blsnco) in the Mexican Pacific Coast, and the so called Mexican Guerrillas were nothing else that Mexican farmers tired of the Mexican Government, Mexican politicians and some corrupt military commanders were forcing the farmers to grow marijuana, but they did not have any training, just like today's farmers, they just want to live in peace, so don't call them a wolf pack, they are not that. Also don't criticize the British man posting here he was a soldier and he knows, I just wish you had served like we did, the lowest ranking SAS or Special Forces nco would kick you butt and make you cry like a little girl.

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    2. I don't believe what you say, because it's the CIA the one sending this guy's back to Germany so face war crimes charges, like the 92 year old guy the FBI and CIA caught in Michigan last year, who had been a Nazi guard in Auschwitz, well they sent his ass back.

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    3. STFU! What an ignorant sob! After the Sha of Iran went into exile, he was living in Cuernavaca, Morelos, México, protected by the corrupt mexican politicians. If you are not at least 62 years old and lived thru all this shit, you shouldn't be commenting.

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    4. Someone here is confusing the guerrillas with paramilitary groups usually formed by corrupt ex federales, state police and military deserters.

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  66. You specified (4:22). I don't see how your elaboration of events that took place during the 80's, desert storm, Afghan, Iraq wars pertain to my previous comments. Not sure if you were aiming at UK dude and supporting my reply.

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  67. --the guerrillas were for the most part an american intelligence invention.
    --americans did train anti-guerrilla fighters that went on to become murderers and drug-traffickers and kidnappers.
    --the shah went to mexico because the US did not want to aknowledge their compadre.
    --klaus barbie was extradited to france after 49 years of fucking around in latin-america and training in torture the argentinian,chilean,bolivian, armies, and felix ismael rodriguez.
    --the US can claim any innocence they want, evidence is out for all to see who is/was at fault.
    -- service members, past present or future do not rule the world, their masters do.
    --you should know who you are serving, many times you go to war, not for your country, but for a bunch of crooks.
    --those crooks will get on the way of a quick and efficient VICTORY wit their politicking, regardless of the merits of the war.
    --etc, etc, etc...

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    1. But service member know more than you do, because they served and lived thru it, what you know you learn it reading comic books and watching movies, at least without Googleing anything, tell us who you served with and how many years,, what was your rank at retirement, I retired from the US Army with the rank of O4 (Major), 22 years of service, all of those years in combat units, I served in military bases all over the world, and I assure you that the US Government DID NOT trained any guerrillas in México.

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    2. So you say that guerrillas are an American intelligence invention? So the CIA formed the Roman guerrillas that fought King Herod 2014 years ago after they made him a king? What an ignorant sob.

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  68. No veo al Z42 con la capacidad de guiar y derigir a los zetas en el futuro. No tiene las herramientas ni la mentalidad.. Estoy seguro que laredo pertenecera a otro cartel muy pronto

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  69. @9:09 the liga comunista 23 de septiembre, took on the mexican army with their few weapons, bank robberies, assaults on police officers and were deeply infiltrated by the DFS at the behest of the CIA, high schools all over mexico were scouted for wannabes to brainwash into the rebel movements, preparatory schools, vocacionals and universities, the league's ideologues, leadership were captured, imprisoned and murdered real quick by the DFS, with many disappeared until today, comandante Julian Slim Helu and miguel nazar haro, both lebanese bloods were right in the middle, and distinguished members of the DFS went on to take over the drug trafficking and recruiting of police organizations all over mexico, with the CIA overseeing the operations, and i don't think it was for free.
    today, Carlos Slim Helu, still has his hands deep in the police operation from the federal level to the most humble callento, ( police officers who can barely walk because of the corns), the latest great alumn of Carlos Slim Helu being none other than Genaro Garcia Luna, famous directer of the SSP, creator of the AFI, fabricator of convicted criminals that confessed under torture, unexplicaby turned into the latest millionaire US businessman; Manelich Castilla, the man that betrayed the zetas, in San Luis Potosi, and whose hunt caused the murder of Jaime Zapata, was another appointee of Carlos Slim Helu, he did not last long on the federal police, Enrique Francisco Galindo Ceballos, zeta allied since the start, a friend with his uncle commander julio ceballos of el lazca, el mamito and el taliban, but there are other lebanese mafia members on all the police forces all over mexico, working for the boss of all bosses Carlos Slim Helu.
    Madera the revolutionari rag of the communist liga 23 de septiembre is being published again, for the new revolutionary fish that want to get ensnared on the nets of the former DFS still doing business as policia nacinal de colombia, i mean mexicana, the people's blinders remain there, they still can't see clearly who the enemy is, the league never was anybody's enemy but it's own, useful to its creators, the CIA's DFS...

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    1. Comandante Juan Slim Helú? It's Carlos Slim Helú, he was the father of billionaire Carlos Slim, and after he emigrated to México from Lebanon, he owned a grocery store in the San Cristóbal Ecatepec neighborhood. Please stfu.

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  70. --klaus barbie was extradited to france, by then he had left a school or nazi styled criminals all over the latin-americas.
    -- the butcher of lyons, CIA and Felix Ismael Rodriguez associate, keeps doing his dirty work through his disciples, the paramilitary forces that conduct extermination and depopulations campaigns all over the banana continent.
    --they are the wolf pack that would make any soldier from anywhere cry on their parachute.
    -- i would never say anyting bad about poor farmers, even those who revolt against the government, or those that become drug trafficking murderers.
    -- the difference is that not all of them go around kidnapping innocent people for ransom.
    --that is the hallmark of the most callous military and federal police that have trained with foreign forces.
    -- in the US at first, and then on their franchises on colombia, guatemala, el salvador, mexico, etc,
    --as one said, when you came face to face with the mexican guerrillas they were nothing but hungry farmers.
    --do you agree that many got murdered by the mexican army and gafes? --can you agree that guatemalan president, general efrain rios montt, school of the americas graduate, kaibil #1, and his kaibiles engaged in genocidal wars of extermination and depopulatio of guatemalan indians? --that the provocations of the liberation theologians caused the persecutions and murders of many priests and the raping of a few nuns? --not at the hands of poor farmers, but at the hands of US trained-on-nazi practices mercenary wolfpacks of police and military elements?
    --i think it makes you puke, if you are an honorable soldier to have been part of any such operations, and i don't condemn soldiers if under misguided personal convictions participated on any of these affairs, but when you have time to learn more, and reflect, inform yourself about who used you and your beloved institutions to make fast bucks, mortgaging the US to the people that just wanted to recover their former colonies, the former banana republics, of which the US is becoming one, in spite of all its military might and institutions, because US politicians are selling out to: --foreign trillionaires who own the money, the oil , the US corporations, the weapons factories, and are recovering all the productive land on the world and all the useful assets, the fabricators of wars under false and spurious claims...
    --the foreign trillionaires that use the US military as their mercenary armies and "lend" the money that the people of the US has to pay.
    Patton's boys had it right when they said "our tears, our blood, his guts" only they didn't know how many people's guts...or for how long...

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  71. Yeah right! They would make a paratrooper cry, that's why they all were defeated by the American Forces, like I said, join and get some hands on experience, the American Military defeated Hitler, Klaus Barbie, and the Japanese Empire, please join and quit reading fiction books and Googleing shit. To the guy commenting about la Liga 23 de Septiembre, when they were active in Monterrey, México back in 67 to 69 I had just come back from my second combat tour in Nam, La Liga 23 de Septiembre were nothing but a bunch of pussies that murdered Eugenio Garza Sada, after Max and Mayel escaped to Varsovia, where they were killed in 1970, la Liga 23 de Septiembre broke in several cells and started to snitch on each other until they were almost exterminated. Boy, you don't know shit. Thanks. US Army Veteran (retired). BTW I live in the Texas Panhandle.

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  72. Most of your comment is based in disinformation, Efrain Rios Montt NEVER attended The School Of The Americas, the Kaibiles are ni better than our Rangers, besides the Kaibiles have their own training school. And yes they are so hard core mofos that during their training they feed a little dog, and then during graduation they cook their dog and eat it. Yeah, they're tough.

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    1. Yes, he was there only for a two week training, not the whole course, and it was when the SOA was still in its original place, Fort Gulick, in the mid 60's it was transferred to Fort Bragg, NC under the command and control of the 7th Special Forces Group, which at the time was the group assigned to operate in the American Continent only. It's true the US Armed Forces trained them, what they do with that training after they finish they contract with the Government is up to them, then when they go against international law it's the US government duty to dispose of them, to kill them, period.

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  73. They are just gloating over the fall of their long time rival, having some fun with it

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  74. you mayors and generals can't leave your fatigues behind, military discipline that demands blindly following orders, or be court martialed, is not for me, and no soldier is required to blindly follow orders i guess. when word started getting out about the crimes of the SoA graduates, the US established franchises on some latin-american countries, to evade fingers being pointed at US military or political institutions.
    the US also protected terrorist bomber Luis Clemente faustino Posada Carriles and felix ismael rodriguez, rios montt is still being protected in guatemala, pinochet's legacy is still defended in chile, the military still honors the mechanics school in argentina, and the mexican policia federal still churns out all the big drug trafficker/kidnapping-extortionists needed to carry on with their dirty money making.
    you are civilians again, have responsibility and dig for the truth, you owe it to yourselves and to your children that may be sent tomorrow to fight another dirty war for the chicken-hawks that won't send their own children to fight their dirty wars under false patriotic pretenses.
    try and find something about operation litempo and about the dirty war in mexico, and then deny all you want, it's all there, except for jail time, court, trials, nothing that appears to be justice, just more and more corruption at all levels, well defended with the weapons the US supplies to the mexican government's wolfpacks, well schooled by US trained military and intelligence. and i'm not talking about fast and furious...
    ok, time to go back to wiki, wikileaks and google and dig for some more dirt.

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    1. You don't know shit, you have no idea what it takes to serve. The Web is full of shit posted by ignorant sob's. Anyone can post anything on the Web, by your attitude I can tell that you wouldn't do shit for yourself, even if your whole family was murdered you wouldn't fight back, but you would go running to the nearest government office for help. If you are going to dig for the bad things, dig also for the good things. I retired with the rank of Major(O-4), retired from the US post office and at 67 I retired with my social security, I get 3 checks every month. My conscience is clean, served my country, my city and my family, and I'm proud of it. BTW are you living on food stamps and welfare check? If the US government denied you those benefits for being so lazy that may be the reason you hate your country.

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    2. You are all wrong, when you enlist you swear to follow any lawful orders by your commanders, and you just follow those orders, no questions asked. If the shit hits the fan, the responsibility falls under your Commander. Please enlist and serve, quit Googleing shit.

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    3. Can you tell me what the real reason for the Viet Nam war was? I did two combat tours and I know, let's compare my experience that what a bunch of ignorants posted on Google.

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  75. @7:48 et al "no viet-cong ever call me nigger" Cassius Clay. Yes mister major real men can and will refuse to obey orders, and will face the consequences,retirement checks or not. we all have our convictions and big men will have different opinions, but make sure next time your children are called to serve their country, they are not serving devils like dick cheney blackwater, haliburton or the like, and worse that they are not serving the global capitalist vultures that have so many US benjamin arnolds in their pockets...for a few benjamins in the bank, and no, i'm not bitter against anyone, have no anymosity against anyone, i have handled my business, i have ran away from trouble and people have ran away from me, nothing big. so long my friends enjoy your retirement and don't forget to inform yourselves, for the shake of your grandchildren, debunk the good,the bad, and the ugly, and inform your opinions...

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    1. Damn cowards who refused to fight for their country. They hide behind a bunch of sorry ass excuses. Cassius Clay was a coward who was scared to fight, NO ONE ever called him a N....., he played the race card to avoid military service, plain and simple. You have to Google shit, I don't, I lived thru it all. It still on my mind and doesn't bother me a bit. I just served my country. The AF pilot that dropped the A bomb over Nagasaki died 2 years ago in St. Louis, MO, his last words were 'I did what my country asked me to do, my conscience is clean, I'm going back home to my Lord Jesus Christ' now that's love for your country. Thanks Sir, it's been my pleasure talking to you.

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    2. By the way, all my sons, and 11 of my nephews proudly served in Iraq and Afghanistan, half of them are Purple Heart recipients, all served in infantry units, all with combat mos's, and our family are proud of them, my ancestors also served in WWI, WWII and the Korean War, and we are Mexican-Americans, and proud of it. Texas born, Texas tough, most of them are now working in law enforcement.

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  76. @8:09 More than 50 000 american soldiers dead, more than 500 000 vietnamese dead, i don't know how many maimedon both sides, deserve that you had told what you know a long time ago, now you wanna play cat and mouse and i have a mountain with millions of reports to check, and on top of it, i have to watch out and try not to hurt the feelings of some grown men with teenaged minds and romantic hairy arses, and for free! also no hope of a pulitzer, sources are expected to be named and listed, with hyperlinks and sequitur capability. ok i'll try to find ten to twenty lines, i don't want to abuse Buggs hospitality and lose my soapbox

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  77. Millions of reports written by the cowards that refused to answer their nation's call. Cassius Clay aka Muhammad Ali refused to serve, he changed his name and religion to hide his cowardice. The Viet Nam war started years before the US intervention. South Viet Nam was a French colony and in the early 1950`s started to fight the French for their Independence, the US was still at war in North Korea, fighting to free the South Korea from the communist North Korea and communist China. The South Vietnamese country was not able to fight the North Vietnamese Army which was backed up by communist China and the USSR, the USA put troops in Nam to prevent the communist from taking the country, if the communist had taken South Viet Nam then we would have to fight Russia and communist China in our own soil because we would have been invaded. Please join the military, served at least 10 years and study military history, don't be an asshole. BTW 54,268 American soldiers died in Korea in almost 4 years, 56,800 American soldiers confirmed killed in action in Viet Nam in 16 years, from 1959 until 1975, plus millions wounded, and millions of enemies also killed but we don't give a fuck about them. We Veterans proudly served. The only ones that complain are the COWARDS who refused to answer their nation's call. FOR THOSE WHO FOUGHT FOR IT, FREEDOM HAS A FLAVOR THE PROTECTED WILL NEVER KNOW. US ARMY VETERAN AND PROUD OF IT! I PROUDLY SERVED WITH THE 82ND AIRBORNE DIVISION AND THE 75TH RANGER REGIMENT. 'DEATH FROM ABOVE' "WE WILL ALWAYS SHOULDER OUR SHARE OF THE TASK " AIRBORNE!!!!!

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  78. -the french were returned their vietnam colony sfter the allies saved their and europe's arses.
    -vietnamese uncle HO, france's cook with french marxist/leninist fight against the french attracted the US to the southeast asia rat trap, "mysteriously".
    -with chinese and russian help, french designed migs, and soldiers, they fought the US and south vietnam, NEVER won any battles against the US.
    -us politicians sold out, leaving their s. vietnam, lao and cambodian to their fate.
    -if you pay attention, nobody is badmouthing servicemen, after all the fighting, the chinese got relations with the US and american ambassadors, thanks to richard nixon.
    -since then, armed with their slave communist laborers, china has been conquering the world.
    -you find the chinese all over the US, mexico, bolivia, all over south-america, they are slave masters in africa, their secret allies coninue selling their opiates all over the US, and meth.
    -US politicians continue the selling down the river of the country, in spite of their soldiers sacrifices.
    -the french were returned their colony, and when things got tough, the US ran to the rat trap, nothing bad about cheese there, getting caught in a rat trap is bad.
    -the US keeps sending its children to fight other people's wars, for foreign plotters, gatting in debt in the process, the politicians keep selling out, moqtada al sadr, the woolly head fat pig, is back in irak stirring it up, the iranis keep looking for trouble, and others keep stirring the soup in hopes that the US will go back to rescue something until they end up definitely bankrupt, from northern africa to the ukrainia, provocations and invitations, in the US accusations of cowardice against a president that did not serve, but do not want to abuse those that do, demands for interventios from those that stand for less government and more government contracts for their private owned enterprises, hungry paramilitary mercenaries that only care about their billionaire government contracts, and the US has to pay them, the bankrupt countries they are trying to go and "save" do not have the funds to pay them for one day of service, "others" with more business sense, know when to cash in on the tears and the blood of the US soldiers, and i mean really cash in on it...
    -it is fascinating that a prison religion can ensnare so many people, including Cassius Clay, mahomed ali, was no coward, and i do not support any religions, that should be a private matter, separate from the state, out of the public through, property of the state, and a tax paying enterprise, as much as lobyists, workers and businessmen; to caesar what is caesar's, and to GOD what is GOD's. the disciples of the snake oil vendors, aka "religious activistas" need to go and make a living like everybody else, and practice their flagelation on themselves all they want, not on others, and not on the government of the people's...

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    1. I'm sorry, like I said I was over there. Your ignorance about what you are writing is inconceivable. Your don't even have the most insignificant knowledge about the war.
      Is not MIGS, it's MiG (Mikoyan Gurivech) the last names of the two aerodynamic engineers that designed the RUSSIAN fighter jets, from the Fishbed to the Fulcrum, hope you know what that is. The French Air Force flew the French made MIRAGE F1.
      I don't want to get into a political discussion because like I said, with all due respect, your knowledge about the Viet Nam war is very limited, almost 0.

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    2. Talk to the people who patrolled the trail, Ho Chi Minh trail or Hwy 1 near Dak To, they will tell you, or those who fought during the Tet (New Year) offensive, or those who fought in the Ia Drang Valley (Ia River valley), or those who fought in the A Shau Valley (Hamburger Hill) or those who fought during the Khe Shan siege. I will not argue with you anymore, I lost many friends when I was in country, just want to let them RIP. God bless you brother.

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  79. @11:41 the US could not have invented imaginary communist guerrillas 2014 years ago, having been an empire for only about 200 years, but some students of war did really discover the value of guerrilla warfare, and disinformation tactics, and apply the teachings of the best to the dominance of the not so well versed, very smart...
    what intrigues me is how such smart people keep falling prey to the unseen and unmentionable economic powers of the world, always using the world's countries against others and themselves, always growing their bank accounts, and getting all sides the necessary financing for weakening themselves while they destruct each other; modern guerrilla and conventional warfare would dictate that when nothing is going right we should stop and assess the operations and the results we have been getting, and troubleshoot with a goal of fixing something, not with the purpose of having an ok corral fight among ourselves, bro.
    Jesus was crucified for not carrying the money to the pharisees and the phylistines about 2 000 years ago, since then the pharisees and the phylistines have been getting the upper hand, maybe the lost tribe of israel didn't get lost at all, they just went incognito and undercover, and have internet sicarios working the ethernet for them, disseminating disinformation from the e-trenches

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    1. Jesús wasn't crucified for the money, he was crucified because some sick sob believed that he was the only god, and not HIM. On the other hand, you have to serve to understand, serve not read science fiction books.

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  80. bless back, i admire the love you have for your brothers-at-arms, but let me make clear that something failedhere and there and it keeps failing, something is wrong with the cadence, in spite of the great ability of chewing gum and walking at the same time.
    the bottom line is that the corruption of ROGUE agents leave everybody down, everywhere...have it nice, it's been a pleasure.

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    1. The only failure was our political leaders who wouldn't let us fight to win, they would always come with some sorry ass political game to make our enemies feel good. Sometimes we felt our own country was our enemy, but we did our best in fighting the communist regime, I don't know who our politicians were fighting, sometimes we felt our country was fighting their own soldiers, but shit bro! We proudly served, we went so the young people back home wouldn't have to go. But looks that today's politicians love to put our country in every war possible specially if they know that they or they kids don't have to go.

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    2. Air America, owned by the CIA, bringing our dead soldiers bodies back home full of heroin. That was a National shame, and LBJ didn't do shit about it. Makes me feel like crying just remembering that shit. CIA was a bunch of sorry ass mofos, whose job was nothing else that helping our enemy.

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  81. @9:44 you're right sorry, i believed that due to the poor performance of the MiG's on the middle east and vietnam those russian planes had to have been french designed. but he laotian planes that moved heroin to the US performed wonderfully for a while, and that is a whole other thing.

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  82. 1 COSA PARA TODOS LOS GRINGOS QUE HABLAN Y NI SABEN MIERDA Y TODOS MIS MEXICANOS EL CARTEL SE SINALOA SIGUE Y SEGUIRA MAD VIVO QUE NUNCA CREEN QUE EL CHAPO ESTA SOLO O NO ENTENO COMANDANTEA QUE SIGAN EL TRABAJO JAJAAA VEREMOS SI EL CHAPO ESTARA LIBRE MUY PRONTO O YA ESTA LIBRE LOS ZETAS SON PURA CAGADA NUNCA SERAN O VAN A HACER LO QUE EL CARTEL DE SINALOA A LOGRADO PIENSAN QUE MATANDO Y TORTURANDO GENTE INOCENTE LES DARA LA GRANDESA JAJAAA NOPE NOMAS LES GANA VERGA

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  83. Im wondering why el mayo or el lic. Havent destroyed the zetas.they have like the best connection to el cholo & el virus antrax.i think they should use every soldier they got to destroy los zetas.

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