Sunday, October 27, 2013

Thinking Zetas are Finished?

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"Zetas are not finished yet" By Scott Stewart and Tristan Reed
During the question-and-answer portion of our quarterly Mexico Security Monitor webinar, we were asked a question pertaining to the current status of Los Zetas. The question was something to the effect of: "Some Mexican media outlets and analysts claim that Los Zetas have been dismantled as an organization and are now little more than a 'ragtag operation.' Why do you disagree with that assessment?"

This question apparently came in response to our quarterly cartel report (an abbreviated version is available here), in which we wrote that despite the leadership losses suffered by Los Zetas, including the arrest of their leader, Miguel "Z-40" Trevino Morales, there were no signs that other leaders were challenging the current leader and Miguel's brother, Omar Trevino Morales. We also wrote that we believed Los Zetas have maintained their operational capabilities in terms of drug smuggling and other criminal activity, and that they have retained the ability to defend their operations and to continue conducting offensive operations deep in the their rivals' territory.

Because of the interest Los Zetas generate among our readers and clients, we thought it would be worthwhile to explain why we believe Los Zetas have not yet been dismantled.

Violence Brings Attention

When they first emerged on the scene in the early 1990s as the enforcement arm of the Gulf cartel, Los Zetas brought a new dynamic to the violence in Mexico. As deserters from Mexico's Special Air Mobile Forces Group, they introduced military tactics and weapons into the fight.

Although other cartels quickly followed suit and stood up their own enforcer groups comprised of former soldiers armed with military ordnance, like the Sinaloa Federation's Los Pelones, Los Zetas continued to generate much media and law enforcement attention. This was due not only to their background as special operations forces, but also to their penchant for gratuitous and overwhelming violence.
 
Unlike other enforcer groups, which tended to operate in more confined geographic areas, the Gulf cartel deployed Los Zetas across Mexico and even into Central America. The group has also publicly taunted the government, such as via the audacious signs Los Zetas hung in Nuevo Laredo in 2008 offering better-paying jobs to the Mexican soldiers deployed to the city to counter them.

Los Zetas' violent nature was clearly on display after they split from the Gulf cartel in early 2010 and became an independent cartel organization. The group's involvement in high-profile incidents, such as the September 2010 killing of U.S. citizen David Hartley on Falcon Lake and the February 2011 attack on two U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents that left one of the agents dead, also helped bring Los Zetas to the attention of the American government and public.
 
This resulted in U.S. pressure on the Mexican government to act against Los Zetas. High-profile incidents such as the August 2010 San Fernando massacre, other large body dumps, attacks on media outlets and the killings of journalists also served to make Los Zetas public enemy No. 1 in Mexico's media and in the eyes of the Mexican government.

Both the Calderon and Pena Nieto administrations have specifically listed the group as a priority target. All this attention has impacted the organization. In addition to the arrests of several plaza bosses, the group also lost longtime leader Heriberto "El Lazca" Lazcano Lazcano, who was killed by the Mexican military in October 2012, and his replacement, Miguel Trevino Morales, who was arrested in July 2013.

Los Zetas grew quickly after emerging as an independent cartel, rising to become the second-largest criminal organization in Mexico. But this rapid growth did not come without organizational challenges. In mid-2012, Ivan "El Taliban" Velazquez Caballero, a high-ranking Los Zetas leader operating in Zacatecas, Coahuila and San Luis Potosi states, split with the group and rejoined the Gulf cartel, which was in the middle of a heated fight against its former enforcer group for control of Mexico's northeast.

During 2012, we also saw repeated reports in the media that a war had erupted between Lazcano Lazcano and Trevino Morales, but no evidence of such a split ever emerged. In retrospect, we learned that the transfer of leadership between Lazcano Lazcano and Trevino Morales had occurred in an orderly manner several months prior to Lazcano Lazcano's death.

Misinformation and Disinformation

Over a year later we do not know if the inaccurate rumors of the Lazcano Lazcano and Trevino Morales split were an incorrect understanding of the Velazquez Caballero defection (misinformation), or if they were a deliberate information operation conducted by the Mexican government or a rival cartel attempting to sow division among the ranks of Los Zetas (disinformation).

This situation highlights one of the big problems confronting those who track and analyze clandestine human networks such as terrorist groups or transnational criminal organizations like Los Zetas. In addition to disinformation and misinformation, there is simply much we do not and cannot know unless we have a source of information inside the organization. Even technical intelligence coverage of such organizations sometimes provides only a limited understanding of the exact structure of an organization and the members' intentions and motives.

It is also important to recognize that even in cases where inside information is available, rumors, disinformation and misinformation often run rampant inside organizations -- particularly organizations composed of brutal, paranoid criminals. In retrospect, it appears that it took some time for Trevino Morales to become aware that Velazquez Caballero's organization had declared war on him because of the disinformation spread by that group. Thus, even if one had been able to ask Trevino Morales himself in March 2012 who was causing the violence in Nuevo Laredo, he would not have known.

But beyond disinformation, rumors, false presumptions and a lack of knowledge or awareness are common within all human networks, from corporate offices and military units to jihadist groups and criminal cartels. Analysts and collectors tend to want to accept everything a source provides as accurate if the source has good placement and access. They seldom want to recognize that despite good placement and access, the source may be biased, completely uninformed, sincerely misinformed or may have bought into a false, conspiratorial hallway rumor.

This means that analysts and investigators can usually only infer what is going on internally within a group, and in many cases the information used to draw those inferences is misleading -- sometimes intentionally so. This applies not only to open-source press reporting and messages purportedly from the groups themselves, but also to the human and signals intelligence used by analysts and investigators with access to classified information. In fact, sometimes classified information can be detrimental to sound analysis when inaccurate classified reporting is given precedence over accurate open-source reporting simply because it is from a highly classified source, thus skewing the analytical process.

For this reason, sensitive intelligence should never outweigh common sense and observation. Indeed, analysts should not hold any item of intelligence, whether from a contact or open-source media, above another -- they must all be carefully evaluated.  (Taliban below left)

While analysts may not know for certain what is happening inside an organized crime group, or what the dynamic is between groups like the Trevino Morales and Velazquez Caballero families, taking a holistic approach and correctly using available intelligence can allow them to form hypotheses. Those hypotheses must then be refuted or confirmed based on whether they conform to observable behavior of the groups and their members. In the case of Mexican cartels, internal shifts such as leadership losses, new strategies or tactics, new campaigns, new alliances, new rivalries and new operations are often manifested into quantifiable and irrefutable occurrences.
 
These observable occurrences can include things such as shifts in drug routes, upticks in overall violent crime such as homicides and robberies, arrests of individuals with credible reported affiliations in new places, and so on. Hypotheses can be validated or invalidated based upon such observable indicators.

In the case of Los Zetas, observable events have repeatedly contradicted the reports that began in 2010 describing the downfall of Los Zetas. If the capabilities of Los Zetas had really begun to decline in 2010, we would not have seen them expand so rapidly in 2011, both in Mexico and internationally. Observing Los Zetas conducting body dumps in Culiacan and Guadalajara during 2011 and 2012 contradicted the idea that El Chapo and the Mexican government had crippled Los Zetas.


Current Hypotheses Regarding Los Zetas
With that in mind then, let's consider some of the hypotheses we are currently working off of regarding Los Zetas.


First, while we mentioned above that Los Zetas historically have been flashy and violent, we believe there has been a noticeable difference in the group's behavior after Miguel Trevino Morales assumed control. Since then, the group appears to have adopted a lower profile, with far fewer high-profile acts of violence and public displays of bodies and narcomantas.

 
This is not to say that the group is any less violent, but with no indicators suggesting the group has weakened, it appears they have made a conscious decision to attempt to lower their press and public profile in hopes of reducing government pressure on them. Of course, it is also possible that some observers could interpret this lower profile as weakness, but such an assumption is not supported by what we can observe happening in Los Zetas' home base.

We operate under the assumption that a quiet plaza is a productive plaza. In other words, the less violence there is in a high-volume drug-trafficking corridor, the better that is for the business of the organized crime group that controls it. A lack of violence in a plaza is also a sign that it is under the uncontested control of a particular organization.


Historically, we have seen large fights for the control of lucrative plazas such as Tijuana and Juarez, and when the Sinaloa Federation believed the Gulf cartel was weakened following the arrest of then-Gulf cartel leader Osiel Cardenas Guillen in 2003, it attempted to take control of Nuevo Laredo and a major war erupted between the two cartels in 2004.

In the case of Los Zetas, we have hypothesized that if the organization had indeed been weakened, the other cartels would be aware of the weakness and would make a push to grab the lucrative Nuevo Laredo plaza as Sinaloa did in 2004. Nuevo Laredo is the busiest cargo crossing from the United States to Mexico, and that heavy flow of traffic permits a large flow of contraband cargo to be hidden alongside legitimate goods.
 
But since the death of Lazcano Lazcano and the capture of Trevino Morales, we have not seen a war break out for control of the city. Therefore, based on the lack of observable violence in Nuevo Laredo, we can conclude that Los Zetas remain in control of that plaza and that contraband continues to flow through it. It is also worth noting that Los Zetas' rivals, including their biggest competitor, the Sinaloa Federation, have been hit hard by attrition. In fact, the organization that was sent to Nuevo Laredo to wrest it from Gulf cartel control in 2004, the Beltran Leyva Organization, has split away from Sinaloa and some of its remnants are currently fighting with Los Zetas against Sinaloa.

If Los Zetas were significantly weakened, we also assume we would see another organization attempt to take control of Monterrey, a major transportation hub in northeastern Mexico. The same transportation infrastructure that makes it a major industrial center also makes it a major hub for illicit trade. If a rival cartel could seize control of Monterrey, it could impact the flow of Los Zetas contraband through Nuevo Laredo.
 
 There has recently been a minor spike of violence in Monterrey, but we have not seen a dramatic escalation of violence that would indicate a significant new struggle for control there. The current level of violence in Monterrey is much lower than it was in 2010 and 2011, when Los Zetas and the Gulf cartel battled for control of the city following the split between the two organizations.

Like all criminal enterprises, law enforcement efforts, infighting, power struggles and plain old greed will eventually weaken, if not destroy, Los Zetas. But that has not yet happened, and Los Zetas remain a powerful organization engaged in a diverse range of criminal activities across a large portion of Mexico -- and the globe.

During the question-and-answer portion of our quarterly Mexico Security Monitor webinar, we were asked a question pertaining to the current status of Los Zetas. The question was something to the effect of: "Some Mexican media outlets and analysts claim that Los Zetas have been dismantled as an organization and are now little more than a 'ragtag operation.' Why do you disagree with that assessment?"

This question apparently came in response to our quarterly cartel report (an abbreviated version is available here), in which we wrote that despite the leadership losses suffered by Los Zetas, including the arrest of their leader, Miguel "Z-40" Trevino Morales, there were no signs that other leaders were challenging the current leader and Miguel's brother, Omar Trevino Morales. We also wrote that we believed Los Zetas have maintained their operational capabilities in terms of drug smuggling and other criminal activity, and that they have retained the ability to defend their operations and to continue conducting offensive operations deep in the their rivals' territory.

Because of the interest Los Zetas generate among our readers and clients, we thought it would be worthwhile to explain why we believe Los Zetas have not yet been dismantled.
Violence Brings Attention

When they first emerged on the scene in the early 1990s as the enforcement arm of the Gulf cartel, Los Zetas brought a new dynamic to the violence in Mexico. As deserters from Mexico's Special Air Mobile Forces Group, they introduced military tactics and weapons into the fight.

Although other cartels quickly followed suit and stood up their own enforcer groups comprised of former soldiers armed with military ordnance, like the Sinaloa Federation's Los Pelones, Los Zetas continued to generate much media and law enforcement attention. This was due not only to their background as special operations forces, but also to their penchant for gratuitous and overwhelming violence.
 
Unlike other enforcer groups, which tended to operate in more confined geographic areas, the Gulf cartel deployed Los Zetas across Mexico and even into Central America. The group has also publicly taunted the government, such as via the audacious signs Los Zetas hung in Nuevo Laredo in 2008 offering better-paying jobs to the Mexican soldiers deployed to the city to counter them.

Los Zetas' violent nature was clearly on display after they split from the Gulf cartel in early 2010 and became an independent cartel organization. The group's involvement in high-profile incidents, such as the September 2010 killing of U.S. citizen David Hartley on Falcon Lake and the February 2011 attack on two U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents that left one of the agents dead, also helped bring Los Zetas to the attention of the American government and public.
 
This resulted in U.S. pressure on the Mexican government to act against Los Zetas. High-profile incidents such as the August 2010 San Fernando massacre, other large body dumps, attacks on media outlets and the killings of journalists also served to make Los Zetas public enemy No. 1 in Mexico's media and in the eyes of the Mexican government.

Both the Calderon and Pena Nieto administrations have specifically listed the group as a priority target. All this attention has impacted the organization. In addition to the arrests of several plaza bosses, the group also lost longtime leader Heriberto "El Lazca" Lazcano Lazcano, who was killed by the Mexican military in October 2012, and his replacement, Miguel Trevino Morales, who was arrested in July 2013.

Los Zetas grew quickly after emerging as an independent cartel, rising to become the second-largest criminal organization in Mexico. But this rapid growth did not come without organizational challenges. In mid-2012, Ivan "El Taliban" Velazquez Caballero, a high-ranking Los Zetas leader operating in Zacatecas, Coahuila and San Luis Potosi states, split with the group and rejoined the Gulf cartel, which was in the middle of a heated fight against its former enforcer group for control of Mexico's northeast.

During 2012, we also saw repeated reports in the media that a war had erupted between Lazcano Lazcano and Trevino Morales, but no evidence of such a split ever emerged. In retrospect, we learned that the transfer of leadership between Lazcano Lazcano and Trevino Morales had occurred in an orderly manner several months prior to Lazcano Lazcano's death.


Misinformation and Disinformation

Over a year later we do not know if the inaccurate rumors of the Lazcano Lazcano and Trevino Morales split were an incorrect understanding of the Velazquez Caballero defection (misinformation), or if they were a deliberate information operation conducted by the Mexican government or a rival cartel attempting to sow division among the ranks of Los Zetas (disinformation).

This situation highlights one of the big problems confronting those who track and analyze clandestine human networks such as terrorist groups or transnational criminal organizations like Los Zetas. In addition to disinformation and misinformation, there is simply much we do not and cannot know unless we have a source of information inside the organization. Even technical intelligence coverage of such organizations sometimes provides only a limited understanding of the exact structure of an organization and the members' intentions and motives.

It is also important to recognize that even in cases where inside information is available, rumors, disinformation and misinformation often run rampant inside organizations -- particularly organizations composed of brutal, paranoid criminals. In retrospect, it appears that it took some time for Trevino Morales to become aware that Velazquez Caballero's organization had declared war on him because of the disinformation spread by that group. Thus, even if one had been able to ask Trevino Morales himself in March 2012 who was causing the violence in Nuevo Laredo, he would not have known.

But beyond disinformation, rumors, false presumptions and a lack of knowledge or awareness are common within all human networks, from corporate offices and military units to jihadist groups and criminal cartels. Analysts and collectors tend to want to accept everything a source provides as accurate if the source has good placement and access. They seldom want to recognize that despite good placement and access, the source may be biased, completely uninformed, sincerely misinformed or may have bought into a false, conspiratorial hallway rumor.

This means that analysts and investigators can usually only infer what is going on internally within a group, and in many cases the information used to draw those inferences is misleading -- sometimes intentionally so. This applies not only to open-source press reporting and messages purportedly from the groups themselves, but also to the human and signals intelligence used by analysts and investigators with access to classified information.
 
In fact, sometimes classified information can be detrimental to sound analysis when inaccurate classified reporting is given precedence over accurate open-source reporting simply because it is from a highly classified source, thus skewing the analytical process. For this reason, sensitive intelligence should never outweigh common sense and observation. Indeed, analysts should not hold any item of intelligence, whether from a contact or open-source media, above another -- they must all be carefully evaluated.

While analysts may not know for certain what is happening inside an organized crime group, or what the dynamic is between groups like the Trevino Morales and Velazquez Caballero families, taking a holistic approach and correctly using available intelligence can allow them to form hypotheses. Those hypotheses must then be refuted or confirmed based on whether they conform to observable behavior of the groups and their members. In the case of Mexican cartels, internal shifts such as leadership losses, new strategies or tactics, new campaigns, new alliances, new rivalries and new operations are often manifested into quantifiable and irrefutable occurrences.
 
These observable occurrences can include things such as shifts in drug routes, upticks in overall violent crime such as homicides and robberies, arrests of individuals with credible reported affiliations in new places, and so on. Hypotheses can be validated or invalidated based upon such observable indicators.

In the case of Los Zetas, observable events have repeatedly contradicted the reports that began in 2010 describing the downfall of Los Zetas. If the capabilities of Los Zetas had really begun to decline in 2010, we would not have seen them expand so rapidly in 2011, both in Mexico and internationally. Observing Los Zetas conducting body dumps in Culiacan and Guadalajara during 2011 and 2012 contradicted the idea that El Chapo and the Mexican government had crippled Los Zetas.


Current Hypotheses Regarding Los Zetas

With that in mind then, let's consider some of the hypotheses we are currently working off of regarding Los Zetas.

First, while we mentioned above that Los Zetas historically have been flashy and violent, we believe there has been a noticeable difference in the group's behavior after Miguel Trevino Morales assumed control. Since then, the group appears to have adopted a lower profile, with far fewer high-profile acts of violence and public displays of bodies and narcomantas.


This is not to say that the group is any less violent, but with no indicators suggesting the group has weakened, it appears they have made a conscious decision to attempt to lower their press and public profile in hopes of reducing government pressure on them. Of course, it is also possible that some observers could interpret this lower profile as weakness, but such an assumption is not supported by what we can observe happening in Los Zetas' home base.

We operate under the assumption that a quiet plaza is a productive plaza. In other words, the less violence there is in a high-volume drug-trafficking corridor, the better that is for the business of the organized crime group that controls it. A lack of violence in a plaza is also a sign that it is under the uncontested control of a particular organization. Historically, we have seen large fights for the control of lucrative plazas such as Tijuana and Juarez, and when the Sinaloa Federation believed the Gulf cartel was weakened following the arrest of then-Gulf cartel leader Osiel Cardenas Guillen in 2003, it attempted to take control of Nuevo Laredo and a major war erupted between the two cartels in 2004.

In the case of Los Zetas, we have hypothesized that if the organization had indeed been weakened, the other cartels would be aware of the weakness and would make a push to grab the lucrative Nuevo Laredo plaza as Sinaloa did in 2004. Nuevo Laredo is the busiest cargo crossing from the United States to Mexico, and that heavy flow of traffic permits a large flow of contraband cargo to be hidden alongside legitimate goods. But since the death of Lazcano Lazcano and the capture of Trevino Morales, we have not seen a war break out for control of the city.
 
Therefore, based on the lack of observable violence in Nuevo Laredo, we can conclude that Los Zetas remain in control of that plaza and that contraband continues to flow through it. It is also worth noting that Los Zetas' rivals, including their biggest competitor, the Sinaloa Federation, have been hit hard by attrition. In fact, the organization that was sent to Nuevo Laredo to wrest it from Gulf cartel control in 2004, the Beltran Leyva Organization, has split away from Sinaloa and some of its remnants are currently fighting with Los Zetas against Sinaloa.

If Los Zetas were significantly weakened, we also assume we would see another organization attempt to take control of Monterrey, a major transportation hub in northeastern Mexico. The same transportation infrastructure that makes it a major industrial center also makes it a major hub for illicit trade. If a rival cartel could seize control of Monterrey, it could impact the flow of Los Zetas contraband through Nuevo Laredo.
 
There has recently been a minor spike of violence in Monterrey, but we have not seen a dramatic escalation of violence that would indicate a significant new struggle for control there. The current level of violence in Monterrey is much lower than it was in 2010 and 2011, when Los Zetas and the Gulf cartel battled for control of the city following the split between the two organizations.

Like all criminal enterprises, law enforcement efforts, infighting, power struggles and plain old greed will eventually weaken, if not destroy, Los Zetas. But that has not yet happened, and Los Zetas remain a powerful organization engaged in a diverse range of criminal activities across a large portion of Mexico -- and the globe.
 
Stratfor

Note from Chivis...It is not usual for me to post Stratfor, but this is the most accurate analysis I have seen with respect to the "health" of the Zetas. 

I will say, that I would argue against the fact they say Lazca transferred the  premier leadership to 40 months before Lazca's death. Sources in Coahuila have always said they were equal and the business was split with each premier leader one having charge of drugs the other with diversifications, which includes kidnapping.  The leaders having a good relationship. 

I also have written how NE Mexico has quieted down.  This was subsequent to Lazca's death.

I do wish this post would have taken in account their international strength, and that the business structure is not dependent on those holding position in the organizational structure.  This is important.  Big people fall in big name cartels, and business doesn't skip a beat. 

I too noticed there was not a play for Nuevo Laredo and a quiet one for Monterrey.  Of course the violence cannot be tempered too long, CDG and Z's will have unfinished business until one prevails. 

What I am most waiting for is what charges 40 will be charged with and the question answered, "will he be extradited?" ....My dos centavos..

From Tristan one of the authors of this report.  He has included a couple of interesting links relevant to this excellent study...

Hi Chivis,
You're absolutely right, diversification plays a key role in the revenue of Los Zetas. Also as you noted, it's international presence, whether its expansion further down the supply chain into Central and South America or across the Atlantic to West Africa or Europe, is a key indicator of Los Zetas capabilities.
 
We have written in the past on Mexican organized crime diversifying their revenue through numerous criminal enterprises: http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110614-new-mexican-president-same-cartel-war
 
Also as you have noted, the revenue from criminal activity within Mexico is substantial. This revenue is critical to covering operational costs in each 'plaza'. A 2013 OAS report on the economics of drug trafficking stated as much as 35% of the operational costs of maintaining a plaza is derived from local funding
 
(http://www.cicad.oas.org/main/policy/informeDrogas2013/laEconomicaNarcotrafico_ESP.pdf). Their estimates come from seized accounting records from unnamed locations, and unfortunately every location in Mexico can have greatly varying criminal dynamics. None the less, the estimate reinforces your point.
 

94 comments:

  1. The Chapo and CDG huggers won't like this report.

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  2. This post is flawed..

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  3. this is a tremendous and accurate report like ive said always to my compa tijuano los zetasare not a regular cartel their more military type look at us soldiers and im not disrespecting them or mean to but look how many ha been killed numbers are bigger but are they weak hell no sme hre los zetas are well structure even with betrayel from taliban and he got betrayed by chapo it was sweet and el caf has restructered itself in a similar way but not exactly thats why no matter how many hits it they take they still charge piso ad rent and control there own turf zetas and caf have been allies since 2008 but i understand something is going on with blo but with cdj is still good

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    1. Dear Mister wero pedorro,the military "type" zetas,lost control of their bowels a while ago,now the shit that lived once in the USA as carwashers,have the organization the ex-gafes set up, they believed in a certain brotherhood that never existed,the actual leadership stole victory from the hands of the zetas through snitching left and right,and now their incompetenceis eating them from the inside,the people they killed by the hundreds will get revenge till there are no more texas sized lying zetas...

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  4. This goes along nicely with the article
    http://www.insightcrime.org/nuevo-laredo-mexico-drug-war/zetas-leaders-first-task-holding-nuevo-laredo

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  5. for 11:36 you must be a cheerleader because you think making a statement makes it reality. gives specifics, show the flaws and back it with intelligent data and analysis. we may not want this to be fact, but it makes us ignorant to discard it because we don't like it. isn't that dangerous? i think so. good post.

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    1. Amen bro nothing but the truth u spoke on here but onces again ignorance and arrogance can be so addictive to this nutthuggers

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    2. Dear 1231 and 347 I don't have to prove or back up anything with specifics or data,two paragraphs are the same in the article and z are just going to get used like a hooker in boys town,that does not make me a cheerleader,go to mexico an take out your notepad and take notes and observe and you will know what really is happening down there..

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  6. Wera wera rosie mora is going to be the nrw zeta boss

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  7. Excellent report. Since the capture of Z 42, things have been quiet in San Fernando Tamps. The Gulf must be in charge. At least they seem to be less volince against regular good people. Thats still in????? the problem will be if the Zetas come back. Another problem is the want to be cartel guys, they are dangerous.

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    1. San Fernando is not contolled by the Cdg its a 50/50 with the Z in the center and South of San Fernando

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  8. NE México it's been quite not because of Lazca's death, but because of 40's arrest and the fact that 42 is not competent and intelligent enough to run whatever is left from the Z's due to his low IQ, we who live here in Nuevo Laredo know that during his childhood years he attended a special education school after he was diagnosed with ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder).

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    1. We in nvo laredo?? As in the people thay had nothing to do but be there snitching and talking like viejas verduleras.i recommend u come out in the streets and see for yourself pendejo .and z42 didnt go to school in laredo texas pendejo that was his older brother.they used tk live by el barrio7viejo and for a while over by mines rd.Z42 has the brans and huebos to run los zetas.its not even about him as longas there are accountants and.corrupted officials in the governement this will not stop.u really think chapo is smart hell no pendejo that greedy midget cant even spell his last name.its power its not about being smart if thats the case become a rocket scientist wei.Yo si ando con.mis camaradas zumbando todo el poniente d nvo laredo yobb conosco como correr el agua personalmentr no nomas por lo q se oye en la casa....saludos a todos los de joya,la infona,las torres,la palacios,la.mirador,la viveros,y todos los barrioz firmes de nectar lima Pendejo!!

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    2. Aprende a escribir pendejo!! Learn how too write dumbass!!

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    3. 6:06 hey ranchero nacional,if you are so smart,can you tell me how much money you could have made from not assassinating so many people?especially the innocent,z42 (babaloca) will have time to show how smart he is,with getting sista z40,released,keeping the company together,his ass free, etc,etc,I'll say that the kingpin act and the Rico act will take care of business,the PRIsident don't need the stinkin' arzes from brokeback tamps or nectar Lima or guauguila anymore!

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    4. Vieja verdulera la más anciana de tu casa, soy nacido y criado en el centro, pero la hice en el barrio los Perros y el parque Morelos, y conozco Nuevo Laredo (no nectar lima como le llaman los ojetez) desde antes que tu papá y tu mamá clavaran, pendejo. Has de ser uno de esos suramericanos muertos de hambre que se vinieron a Nuevo Laredo cuando abrieron la frontera con el tratado de libre comercio, y te quedaste en Nuevo Laredo a pedir limosna. Qué te parece si te pones a trabajar para que te mantengas solo y dejes de ser un parásito del pueblo.

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    5. No mames vato. No te estreses, comprobado que eres un tapado!!

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    6. 606 te callaroon el .osico gacho pinchi centroamericano violador de gallinas

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  9. like it takes a genius to figure this one out. They will survive as long as they continue to pay the mexican gov.

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  10. Groups like Los Zetas will always exist. I know some people don't want to accept that, but it's true. Not everybody wants to live hanging from Chapo's ball sack. It's a pride thing.

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    1. Most all crooks know they will lose it sooner than later,it is only a matter of who has the better team and how you behave towards them,like sharing the money,as opposed to sending them to kidnap as a means to survive by living off the field,that is why chapohas a BETTER TEAM,and has been there for 40 years,z40,after 6 months without lazca ends up with the hated ass his own confrères don't like,in the joint.
      I firmly believe he is not getting out,it is all about who lasts longer,while some lozerz never really "had" what it takes,zoorry
      greedy jackasses,goodbye and goodnight!

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  11. Sorry...we in the NE noticed a decline in violence beginning right after Lazca's death. My husband has ADD and is brilliant and very successful. He hated school btw, but feared his father more :)

    42 went to school in Laredo? which school? I thought it was Dallas. can you please send me more info on your school, and where exactly they lived? You must know them well since the school or the family shared his diagnosis with you.

    12:31 ...I could not have said it better. If the narco cheerleaders could put the pom poms down and treat this not as a video game but a real life disaster, approaching analysis in a logical way based on fact....everything would become clear. And that means cheerleaders for any cartel. I am accused of cheering z's then the next person will say I do something with chapos lower extremities and the next say it's CDG.

    I have equal distain for them all.

    BTW I received an email from one of the authors of his article. I will post it at the bottom of the post.

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  12. Y q salgan las chaputas y golfitas a llorar como siempre bola de culos.anke les arda la letra Z rifa y ustedes ni con el apoyo del gobierno an podido tumbar a estos zetazz...jajajajaja sigan sakando corridos que nomas los Pochos pendejos les creen jajaja pinches carteles undidos jajaja arriba nvo laredo tamaulipazz aki ai fosas de sinaloenses y golfitas por si kieren entra jana

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    1. Ya cállate güey, pareces disco rayado, siempre que le echas porras a las cacaz pones lo mismo. Yo vivo aquí en la Voluntad y Trabajo y ya ni los halconcillos gorrosos y relajes se ven en las esquinas.

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    2. Y a ti que tanto te cala wey acaso tienes familiares con las golfas o chaputas o eres un chacho o tejas ardido de tus epocas?

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    3. They cacaz are just layin' low to not give bad propaganda to Miguel "baad azz" angel Trevino Morales,that is how the naco-mind of the carwashing eloteros work.if they die of hunger that's their problem,they should have known better and went to Texas a long time ago...

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    4. @Oct 27 9:58pm, no soy un ciudadano Honrado que trabaja en una máquiladora, pero cuando los soldados o marinos les parten la madre a los mafiosillos de mierda me da gusto, que hasta hago una carnita asada.. Yo no soy un muerto de hambre como ustedes.

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    5. *yo soy un ciudadano........

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  13. I liked what they mentioned in the article (http://www.insightcrime.org/nuevo-laredo-mexico-drug-war/zetas-leaders-first-task-holding-nuevo-laredo) that some businessmen believe it will be necessary to set up self-defense death squads like they did in Colombia. The AUC was extremely effective in defeating the FARC and other organized crime groups. They were ruthless.

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    1. Thats already hapening in michoacan stupid didnt you read the article above this one

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    2. Yeah right, so effective that now auc n farc on ocasions drug traffick in cooperation with each other.

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  14. Todo a estado callado por el EPN en multimedios de Monterrey ya no reportan casi nada.En Monterrey aun ahi muertos a lo mendigo el CDN aliado con los Z en Monterrey apoyados por la Fuerza Civil estan recuperando el terreno.Los Z aliados con el CDJ peliando Chihuahua recuperando terreno al igual mandando tropazzzz de Coahuila a su vecino estado Chihuahua apoyar a los lineros y aztecas.Y en Sinaloa CDJ Z y Beltranes peliando Sinaloa.Mientras no le tumben Nuevo Laredo y Piedras Negras la Compañia no va para ningunl

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    1. Y mientras pelean chihuas los mugrozozz les tumban zacatecas, mientras pelean monterrey les tumban yucatan, mientras le ayudan a los beltran en sinaloa les sigue. Tumbando san luis y tabasco..no hable de ganar terreno compa por que donde estan perdiendo jente por apoyar a otros les tumban jente y plazas en otros estados...no creo que le quiten a el golfo nvo leon.y en piedras ya hay de amadre golfos compa al igual que en nvo laredo asi que no venga con cermones de que ya estan ganando terreno los golfos estan reforsandoce machin en zacatecas tamaulipas nvo leon slp veracruz y coahuila. ..

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    2. En Monterrey nadien quiere a los Golfos wey porque llegaron echando mentiras.Por eso se cre el CDN en Monterrey apoyados por La Fuerza Civil y son aliados a los Z.Monterey nunca lo controlo el Golfo te equivocas en Mty nadien controla pero si ya ahi una gran presencia de Zetas y CDN en toda la region.Coahuila es dominado por los Z en Piedras es 100 controlado igual en Nuevo Laredo aqui entran pero maman si no ya vez el año pasado no pudo el Golfo en Nuevo Laredo.Zacatecas es micha y micha gracias al Taliban el Golfo pudo entrar un poco mas al estado Al igual en San Luis pero las plazas mas importante es la de Monterrrey por sus rutad hacia la frontera porque crees que en Mty aun ahi muertitos porque crees que Nuevo Leon ya tiene cartel CDN? Porque es una plaza que pesa y la gente estan artos de las Golfas.En Nuevo Laredo esta todo calmado no mal informes a la gente ok y si estan que no se miran compa o estan escondidos bajo las piedras?

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    3. Compa que escribio alas 9:01pm...
      Las golfas son muertos de hambre.
      Lambe huevos del chapo.
      Los verdaderos Tamaulipecos se la rifan sus plazas solos sin pedir ayuda!!!
      La plaza Nuevo Laredo es ejemplo..

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    4. En Monterrey nunca controlo el golfo wey en mty ningun cartel controla es la plaza mas cabrona para controlar que por eso se hizo otro cartel que es el CDN cartel del norte tu sabes muy bien que en Monterrey no quieren ni a los chapos ni golfos.CDN esta aliado con los Z y apoyados por la Fuerza Civil de Mty los van a sacar de mty a los golfos no son bienvenidos a mty wey.En Coahuila la letra domina casi todo el estado ni se diga en Piedras Negras y en Nvo Laredo esta bien tranquilo como siempre ponle que entren pero los mandan directo al guizo o a la fosa.Mientras no le tumben Nvo Laredo y Piedras la Letra va seguir moviendo millones de dollares y manteniendo su guerra con la contra y apoyando sus alliados en Monterrey CDN y CDJ en Chiwas y Blo en Sinaloa y Nayarit y manteniendo Coahuila bajo su emperio

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    5. El 9:01 lo dijo bien. Yo tengo Familia y amigos en los 2 Laredos y en MTY y por todo Nuevo Leon. La gende apoya mas al Golfo que a los Z porque no se meten con la gende del pueblo. Los chiquillos mocosos segun se cren muy Z pero cuando llueve cuetes por la calles se van a sus casitas y se ponen haplar por el facebook. Nuevo Laredo todavia ay Z pero tambien ya ay CDG.

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    6. don't involve "toda la gente",in your crap to justify your cacartel,nobody has elected yours or anybody else's cartel to be the one and only authorized to fuck around anywhere,if your bosses had paid their sicarios, crime would not have been so widely spread all over with kidnappings murders and drug dealing for pesos to barely subsist.sicarios are killing and dying for less,much less than minimum Mexican wages,how much more stupid can it get?

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    7. the zetas are hiring minors to do their dirty deeds,can not mislead grown-ups to work for promises...

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  15. What a long, drawn out way to say "ultimately, nobody knows the answer to that question".

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    1. Ultimately...El Taliban carried out his mission,and z40 is under arrest,the bigger backstabber lost,big time.when you are lucky,don't fuck with the help,because the help will always find a way to fuck you all over.just like z40 got lazca fucked up...

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  16. As long as theres poverty lack of opportunities and everything else that goes with it , there will be many misguided youth that a are willing to join their ranks to keep doing what there doing

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  17. Are ZetAs still in Piedras Niegras And Acuna??? If so who runs them Celso or David???

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    1. Zetas control more than the 80 percent of Coahuila.Abuelo Dumbo is the regional boss of Coahuila for the Z Cartel.

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    2. Are you crazy? There is no Abuelo Dumbass boss here in Coahuila.

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    3. Yea and Sargento Pinocchio is his back up along with jiminy cricket and the seven dwarfs,they all get down taping bootleg movies at the theater and then shipping them to usa to be sold at swapmeets and mexican stores.

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    4. Dumbo as a nickname is used in Mexico for guys with BIG EARS that could be used to fly

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    5. El Dumbo is federal Senator,ex tamaulipas governor Manuel lerma cavazos?,the old dog has been there a looking time,all of his associates come and go,but he is still all there,what an old rat,showing all his colors,for all to see,and still there!

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  18. Anybody an be a zeta nowadays,dropout of school ,have no job do meth, smoke crappy weed,dress like a regetonero wax your eyebrows drive around a stolen truck/suv all that for crappy pay fucking losers

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    1. You must say all cartels amigo

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    2. Not every cartelero shaves anything,the metros shave everything,very carefully, every day,all are to be despised...

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  19. Why do a lot of folks think 42 is borderline retarded?

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    1. Because the BABALOCA FACE says it all,just like when you are pretty,it takes just one look...bda,bda,bda!

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    2. You people should be more respectful
      -z40 is in prison
      -z42 isn't
      -who is the smarter one?

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    3. 12:44pm, the fact that z40 is in prison doesn't change anything, z42 is still mentally retarded. z42 is not in prison just because no one gives a shit about him.

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  20. 6:06 pm go home your drunk and learn how to spell please =) you cant get over the fact that c.d.g where here before the zetas there the knock off of the original cartel just like blo are knock offs of the original sinaloa cartel there chafas nothing compared to the original golfo or sinaloa cartel

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    1. 7:02 you mean like fayuca pirateada from...
      chinaa? Fake azz shows all over.

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  21. Youd have to be a retard to join a damn cartel! Period! I dont give a damn how poor or few opportunities u had as there is absolutely NO retirement plan with that lifestyle!!

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  22. As long as the Z controls the Nuevo Laredo border crossing, they will generate huge cash and continue holding mad power

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    1. And not just New Laredo Piedras Negras too also they are getting back most of Mty back with the help of the CDN is Monterreys Cartel they are the new enemies of the CDG and allied with the Z in Monterrey.

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    2. Well yu seam to knw something about all diz cdn n zetas post up more

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    3. cdn? fake ass cartel,they don't even have money for the narco-mantas yet,pinchi lokos are just trying a weak azz move of deciding themselves that their empire empinado goes from "here to there".like the rest of the world is going to say yessiree whatever you say it is sir...i don't sink sooo!!!

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  23. Did u guys here lazcas alive!!!!

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    1. 10:07 sssh! lazca is working undercover to get z40 out of prison,with helicopters and tanks and their homemade bulletproof vehiclezzz,and team zixz...

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  24. the very smart people that belong to the zetas,allowed z40 to be taken,and can't get his ass free,also lost millions of dollars in international investments in the us,the important "diversification" of business,like pirated merchandise,kidnappings,dealing by the gramo and carwashing,are just table scraps for the plebes to fight over like cats and dogs and they must pay tax on any money they make,on top of that they got to kill or be killed "defending"the plaza.z40 lasted 2 years as lazca's partner and # 1 ass kisser,after lazca was killed,z40 lasted 6 months,all of them on the run...
    What greatness? the one bert moreira afforded them for millions of dollars?
    or yarrington? pena nieto?the bottom line is cartel bosses suck,and the sicarios are a bunch of PENDEJOS,the less their pay,the bigger the pendejo.
    the naco-narcs deny their participation in murders and kidnappings,and that is fine,but nobody can deny murders and kidnappings exist and do occur.death penalty for the big bosses of the sicarios,right motherfucking now! all the way up to the "EL PRESIDENTE"

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  25. Its a business, it makes a lot of money (high risk = high payout or prison/torture/death) and money is what greases the wheel of the world. If there was no money in drugs there would be no drug crime, no drug violence and no drug corruption ....

    L E G A L I Z E I T !!!

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  26. Sometimes i wish i could upvote certain comments, good stuff

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  27. REMEMBER. The only good zeta is a dead zeta......

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  28. "A quite plaza is a productive plaza!!!"

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  29. October 28, 2013 at 9:29 AM

    Si pendejo ni te te la crees. Para de hechar mentiras pendejo mentiroso ahora rayas bien y te la tiras bien mexicano.. tu no eres tamaulipeco quien sabe que eres pero devolada se ve que ni eres de la frontera idiota.


    Y para que esborras tu primer comentario mamon? Ya dejate de mamadas ni tu te las crees.

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    1. Soy de Nuevo Laredo, nacido y criado aquí, estuve en la primaria en la Juan B Tijerina, estuve en la Secundaria Técnica del Instituto Tecnológico Regional # 10, gradué en 1969, después gradué del Tecnológico en Ingeniería Civil, y trabajo en Laredo, Texas, y tú de donde eres malandrin barato, como dije anteriormente has de ser uno de esos que vinieron de Sudamérica cuando abrió las fronteras el TLC y te quedate de malviviente y asaltante en el pueblo. Y una vez más grabatelo, se llama Nuevo Laredo no nectar lima, de acuerdo? Pelado ignorante. Y yo no borré ningún comentario, medita las cosas antes de opinar, conecta el cerebro antes de conectar la lengua, no seas baboso e ignorante.

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    2. Pendejo, ya se quedaron sin patrón, y sin cubetas para lavar carros en la plaza Hidalgo, pero ahí andan de calientes que son zetas y no traen ni un cinco en la bolsa y ni un frijol en la tripa, pero eso si todos tus patrones relajando a lo grande aquí en México y también en Estados Unidos, cuando necesites feria me dices para que vengas a lavarme el Camaro, ahí te doy pa tus chicles.

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  30. Jajaja son unos idiotas e incautos si creen que si muere o capturan al Z42 ya se acavo la compañia.Ni saben la menor duda como la compañia esta estructurada en su liderazgo.Mientras que exista la corrupcion en la SEMAR y Marina y Ex Soldados siempre va ver puestos en la compañia.Golfos se equivocaron en hacerle guerra a los Z apenas su pesadilla comienza.Nunca ganaron Monterrey si no nomas perdieron gente en esa plaza CDN su nueva pesadilla en la sultana del norte donde se toma tecate y carta blanca donde le van a los Rayados o Tigres aqui no queremos a los Golfos train pura gente de otros estados lejanos del sur a cobrar cuota no gracias mil vecez que un regio CDN cobre cuota o Z que una golfa de otro estado del sur.Y como pusieron en un muro en mty : dice Lazcano y 40 aqui en mty todos nomad pagan cuota baja y arriva nuevo leon.

    Cholito de la indepe

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    1. Que orgullo, soy Cholo de la indepe, se llama Colonia Independencia, y has de ser de esos viciosillos baratos que no sirven para nada y traen los pantalones en las rodillos, y sin calzoncillos enseñando media rajada. En vez de ponerte a trabajar y a ser útil, o que esperas de la vida, aparecer en un video cuando los de un cartel contrario te estén cocinando vivo. Ya deja la metanfetamina y ponte a hacer algo con tu vida.

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    2. Que ignorante estas mi amigo has de ser un pinche secuestrador de cagada .apoyar alos rataz y el dia que te secuestren a tu propia familia a ver que ases...a que chingaos te afecta si tu mismo ectorcionas a tu raza pinche analfabeta mantenido por la gente huevon.

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    3. Eres un demonio mas y en el mombre de Jesus te reprendo y te ordeno ke te tegreses al infierno donde nunca deverias a vet salido... Dios ya te vensio en la con la sangre de su hijo en la cruz..

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    4. Los zetas la cagaron cuando dejaron solo a osiel,todavia estarian ahi vivitos,y no muertos o en el bote por andar de judas...

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    5. 3:10 culito de la indepe,do you mean everybody has to make their own money?
      on their own?
      And pay quota?
      Zetas were promised good pay and benefits,and like estupidos,them plebes believed the pimps...zeta style,short change their friends...

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  31. Its time to back to our country, visit our families. Its most importan we go back to MX. spend our $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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    1. NOT! the zetas killed turism,lack of turism, coupled with the rico act and the kingpin statutes,will Contribute to kill the zetas!!!

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  32. Dios se apiade de Mex y saque a esos demonios de nuestro pais..

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  33. Casi por la mayor parte de los Z en MTY son de Nuevo Laredo o gende del sur de Mexico pinches indios mejor dicho. Ala gende de la sultana del Norte no quieren a los narcos pero si apoyan a los del golfo por que le ayuda ala gende cuando los zetas o CDN quiere chingarse a la gende pobre. Ay por la caredera Han matado muchos lacraZ ultimamende.

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    1. Pinche poch cruzarte elcharco para k mires como les esta llendo a tusgolfitas...hasta crees que esas golfas le ayudan a los pobres jajaajajajajajajaja ers todo un pendejo pocho..caredera jajaj

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    2. 8:05 pinche catracho, a poco tus amos los zetillas si ayudan, por que a ti te han de dar puro chorizo.

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  34. Te equivocas compadrito todos los fugados del penal de apodaca eran todos de mty casi los z empezaron a reclutar en nuevo laredo primero y la segunda ciudad fue nty luego veracruz porque crees wue sun ahi muchos z en mty y los golfas no ayudan a nadien compyito hacen lo mismo que los z rn mty ambos operan igual en mty una cosa que las golfas esconden sus cositas y dicen no hacerlo en mty ya se invento otro cartel pura gente de monterrey guey es el CDN para que se informe uste ok y son aliados a los Z apoyados por la policia unica de mty eey que es la fuerza civil compadre y arriba los regios y cdn z las golfas no son bienvenidos aqui no caven golfas como en rl topo chicho puro z de mty guey

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    1. Monterrey, son tan agarrados,they,the tight fisted, they won't pay either,they rather lose the elbows than a penny...

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  35. Que pedo hubo en camargo?? They said there was a gun fight again between golfos and mugrozzzoz this past saturday 10/26...los mugrozzzoz burned houses in camargo i was coming from reynosa at 11 pm por la riberena pero i just saw the estakas at the camargo y griega..... toda la carretera taba calmado

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  36. On sunday there going to show a special on chapo in unvision I think the the show is aqui y ahora how chapo is helping mexico and dea take down his enemy in other word snitching please post this

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  37. Para esos pocos pendejos que dicen que las golfas ayudan al pueblo y juran wue no cobran cuota y secuestran ni ustedes mismo se la creen.Valor Por Tamaulipas saco hace ya un buen una encuesta en que plazas secuestran mas dentro de Tamaulipas y quedo en primer lugar Tampico Tamaulipas plaza dominada por el cartelucho del golfo.A si que no les queda diciendo que el CDG no hace nada si son unas lacras vestidos de payasos.Pero son tan falsos y arguanderos que dicen que no quiebran ningun plato si quiebran toda la pinche bandeja.

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    1. Estás tratando de disculpar a tus amos los Z o que, por que esos son mil veces peores que todos los pinches carteles juntos, como ya están torcidos el marrano de 40 y su hermano en Austin, y como no tienen forma de salir están relaje y relaje, y todos los achichincles que están afuera se están muriendo de hambre y andan de llorones.

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  38. The other cartels do the same but there not more connected than CDS with the US and Mex Gov

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  39. Zetas are no longer Zetas, it is Trevino family cartel now. None of them are ex soldiers anymore all those guy's are dead or in jail it is just idiot kids running what is left of Z. There are many small crews in Mexico calling themselves Z only for intimidation factor, because the name carries so much fear so it's impossible to know who are real and who are just stealing the name. The so-called Z's I saw in Veracruz last month looked like fall down goofs. They were heatbag kids no older than 17 and a strong wind would blow them over. There's no way they were actual Zetas, and if they are, that's pretty pathetic. I imagine the whole crew will fold pretty soon if this is the best crews they can come up with.

    Trevino family cartel is not going to last. Z40 is fully cooperating with police or else American's would've already extradited him. Only a fool would stay in that crew and Z42 is probably a F/T informant now. I don't think there has been much violence because other crews simply jacked the remaining Zetas guys who are pretty weak now. They give up without a fight or just fled after support from central Zetas disappeared and money and guns dried up and other gangs take their plaza without firing a shot.

    Z = dead. Only a federal informant would claim to be a Z now, or a goof kid.

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