Saturday, October 5, 2013

Strange Twist in Facts Surrounding The Michoacán CT, CJNG Shootout

Chivis Martínez Borderland Beat
 
Michoacán; Bounded bloodless bodies at the scene of a shootout

 
Two of the four found in the aftermath of a  gunfight between Caballeros Templarios and Cartel Jalisco New Generation (Ct and CJNG) are identified by their relatives and reported living in Jiquilpan,  and were day  laborers.
Ramón López Silva, 54-year-old lived on Campo de Aviación street, in the Cononia Bella Vista and Luis Ramón Hernández Vega, 26 years old, living on the  Melchor Ocampo street, in colonia Centro.
Two groups of armed men engaged in a crossfire for several minutes between the communities of El Guirio and Las Gallinas..
When law enforcement officers arrived to the site of the shooting, they found the bodies of four people of the male sex, some of them tied up feet and hands, as well as four late model trucks.
The other two bodies were later identified by relatives as Alfonso Avalos 28 years old and Jose Licea aged 33, both also identified as laborers.  All four had been reported as possible kidnapping victims by their families.
The early reports and video claimed the four were casualties of a balacera in Jiquilan where hundreds of shell casings used by the AR-15 and Ak-47 rifles favored by narcos.
Residents of the town heard a violent clash of detonations and notified authorities. When elements of the Mexican Army and police arrived they found four bodies and at first thought they were involved in the clash but did report the bodies were bound.  Clearly not a sign of death resulting from a shootout, nor is the absence of blood from the gunshot wounds the victims suffered, only one body had a trickle of blood.

In all probability the bodies were in reality four of the many innocents kidnapped by CT for propaganda purposes, usually typing them to other cartels or community police.
In the photos is a photo of a light gray 4 door Dodge Ram pick-up.  This is the same truck posted recently by Mario Alvarez aka “el Metro” on facebook.  He is rumored to have been killed in the CT/CJNG confrontation.

As I reported recently, CJNG is making a serious effort  effort to take over Michoacán from CT.
 

39 comments:

  1. it really sucks that always the dead are the inocents, freaking narcos, how come they don't kill each other, and the goverment as always they never do squat

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  2. Chivis u should write about los pepes in colombia hopefuly mexico builds a group like that and calms everyone down

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    1. Los pepes were funded by cali cartel to kill medellin cartel and more ppl killing others ain't gunna help

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    2. it helps that the old fuckers will be gone,it may be true that the bad you know is better than the bad that will come next, but what matters is the point at hand,the clear and present evil must go now! and we'LLC deal with the next in the same fashion...general naranjas carries on...

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    3. Los Pepes are facists mother f*ckers founded by mass murder Alvaro Uribe, & degenerated even further into the AUC narco paramilitary carrying out Colombia's "social cleansing." Rape & bullets are cowards' weapons utilized by Colombia's macho men's teeny, tiny dicks. What about the "False Positives' Scandal?" Kidnapping teenaged boys & young men, executing them, dressing their corpses in FARC uniforms, cutting off fingers & ears so they could show these as proof to their bosses in order to get $1,500 Colombian pesos per "dead FARC." No joda.

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    4. http://m.semana.com/nacion/articulo/yo-fui-el-creador-de-los-pepes/22770-3 […] " "YO FUI EL CREADOR DE LOS PEPES" Por primera vez Fidel Castaño concede una entrevista... hace revelaciones sobre los magnicidios, 'los Pepes' y sus relaciones con Pablo Escobar."
      […] http://m.semana.com/nacion/articulo/quienes-pepes/19520-3
      […] " Hay algunos que han llegado incluso a aseverar que tras la actividad de los Pepes podrían estar miembros de la Policía Nacional, institución a la cual el cartel de Medellín le ha matado centenares de agentes."
      […] " Según esas fuentes, en los últimos dos años Castaño se había venido distanciando de su viejo amigo Pablo Escobar, por diferentes motivos. El primero de ellos tiene que ver con que Castaño y muchos de sus amigos criticaron la entrega y el sometimiento a la Justicia de Escobar y sus hombres en mayo de 1991. Para Castaño, esa entrega enterraba la posibilidad de una negociación de mayor alcance con el Gobierno."

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    5. Ask Popeye who really set los pepes up in business!

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  3. CT seemto be going to new lows all the time,wondr if they catch up wit this guy soon,even with the protection and relationships he has.

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  4. Maybe they were dumping the bodies when CJNG found them? Anyway, I´m sure the local authorities will try to just say they were killed in the shootout and call it a closed case. So sad if they were innocent.

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  5. Gotta be alert in mexico at all time make sure your not being followed slip up once and end up like these cats

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  6. Michoacan has the best food in mexico
    But it also has the wost people to ask anybody about people from michoacan and they'll tell you that they're double crossing snakes the worts mexico gots to offer

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    1. This is the stupidest comment I've ever heard about Michoacan. People from are welcoming and straight forward. You must have them confused with the rateros from mexico city or the snitches from Sinaloa. No huge cartel has been able to take over their land and never will because the people simply wont let it happen. If the commities werent fighting with the narcos, cjng would have been scurried back to jalisco. People from Michoacan are stong and independent people. This is why La Familia was created by Michoacanos to take Michoacan back from los zetas and now their communities are rising up to take their land back from the narcos.


      ~Stick Up Kid~

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    2. People from michoacan are ashamed of their last king, tariacuri,aka,calzontzin,who went without shoes and in his humblest robes to receive the conquistadors,and if at all possible to surrender if they would allow,that was the way the Spaniards perceived the situation.for the michoacas, it was just the customary way to show hospitality to the visitorsthe rest is history...

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  7. CT are just as bad as Zetas..freaking cartels need to die and don't bother innocent hard working Mexicans.

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    1. CT are worse than zetas whom they kicked out from michuacan,same thing they did to la familia michuacana...

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  8. los pepes were selected cia seals fbi dea atf special forces combined with columbian elite. THATS A FACT RESEARCH IT AND IT WILL IMPOSSIBLE TO VERIFY. SECRETIVE POLICE ACTION THAT WAS GIVEN GREEN LIGHT TO OPERATE AS NEEDED TO THE EXTREME EYE FOR EYE TOOTH FOR TOOTH

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    1. Sorry to rain on your parade, darling, but that's pura legitima b.s. Los Pepes & MAS are Uribes' creation when he was Governor of Antioquia, following Nieves Ochoa's kidnapping, their original objective: kidnappers.Uribe's father, Jorge, & Carlos Castano's bro--another nut job- were kidnapped, killed. The Cali Cartel- so named by DEA- is another story. Los Pepes were low life, basuco runners for the Ochoas originally. Navy Seals? Not even in the same zipcode. Peace out..
      Toronto

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    2. I feel like a bird of Paradise,with so many flags on my ass but here we go...giniral naranjas knew it all,planned most of it, and fucked the opposition in the ass,when he is done in Mexico,I hope and pray that he will write the book and I have time to read it before he gets me too,I knew when I saw it,it was a Trojan horse,but no problem,I like horses,horses asses and things related,best regards!!!
      PS. You Pass...

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  9. Actuly los pepes were ordanary
    people from Colombia like good cops
    army. ect. lets not forget he killed
    a lot of good cops. so in the end
    people of colombia were fed up with
    Pablos Bs narco Dictatorship
    he held every One in colombia hostage
    from ordanary citizen to política.
    just becuse he didnt to be brought
    to USA to face the music. all the distruction this Man left just becuse
    he wanted to make a pesó.
    viva los Pepes y los Mata narcos.

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    1. Ordinary citizens my ass,it was a well thought and well financed campaign to steal all of pablo's business,he had all the money in the world, why would he need to kidnap anybody? Others had all kind of reasons to commit crimes in his name,out of greed ambition revenge,Pablo fell for it,and the winners got to write the story,FACTS ON THE GROUND SAY: all presidents of colombia, presidential candidates, are family,or have heavy family ties with narcs.general naranjas is doing the exact same operation in Mexico,right now,after the Mexicans killed many Colombians during El negro durazo in Mexico,to steal the business,there is giniral naranjas in Mexico,on to something,up to something,not for nothing...

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  10. I myself think, there was a shootout. Im not saying tht those dead werent proly kidnapped, but in ”El Metros” rumored truck is there and in one of these othere narco sites theres a pic of ”El Broly Banderas” all bloodied out, with a shoot to the ear it appears. With the same story shootout at el guirion, Las gallinas.

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  11. Banderas has a few other sites,he make no secret of his work,he has kids also

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  12. CDG is like los pepes de Mexico they think It's they're job to clean all of Mexico from the beast they created.

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  13. Los pepes r narcos n contract killers

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  14. Luis licea is my uncle he was from El Fresno he was kidnapped. He was innonocent just like the others that were tied up....

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    1. Sorry for your family's loss. I knew your uncle and he was a good guy.its sad that even a small ranch like el fresno is getting hit.....el gallo mich

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  15. @ 2:09
    My article is one of the few that I have seen that not only reported but focused on the fact that the dead were props and innocents that had been kidnapped and not a part of any group or shootout.

    Please answer a question, these victims and others found elsewhere were all innocents, from the reports on the ground the relatives say they were working when abducted. Is that the case of your uncle? Where was he working? I am truly sorry for your loss. Paz, Chivis

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    1. Well from what I heard from my uncle in Mexico they were kidnapped while they were working all from different parts of michoacan and my uncle was picked up while was about to eat breakfast. Thank you very much I appreciate that chivis

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  16. lol el azul use to run michoacan dumbass

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  17. @5:06AM
    yeah, those poor guys, the ones tied at feet and hands were working in a isolated area filling potholes.

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  18. CJNG AL 110 Contra todas las lacras.

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  19. I know luis licea 2. he's from jiquilpan. That jomo el broly killed him. And then cjng came amd shot them ct's up. El broly escaped but got hit on the side of the face.

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    1. How do you know Luis licea? Do you live over there?

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    2. I have family in el fresno. The place is a small ranch. Everyone knows everybody and what's going on. Cjng is moving in and taking out the ct's. The ct's are running violently against everybody. the community has turned against them and forming defensive groups to fight them....gallo mich

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    3. Oh ok thank you for the information my mom is licea an her family is from el Fresno we also have a home in jiquilpan we were planning on going there but i guess not anymore

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    4. Luis licea was my uncle I just seen your comment thanks for your support

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    5. Hey I feel for you , I was born in jiquilpan but was brought to the states when I was 7 in 1980 to be exxact . Hope all is well , I hope we could do more for michoacan

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  20. Jose lices got picked up at the gas station pemex in el fresno jiquilpan. The ct's we're actually looking for 2 guys, and luis dint tell them we're they live, so, they took him. He leaves a wife and 3 little girls behind

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  21. I was born in jiquilpan and according to my uncle that just came from vacations and he says the whole region is very tense and people dont go out after 8pm , he says that he cant belive it its like a war zone ,

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